Did Ruby meet Loren Hall?

[Steve Thomas]

According to this FBI document, Loren Eugene "Skip" Hall was arrested in Cuba in April, 1959. On July 9, 1959 Reuben Miro Guardia told the FBI that Hall was still in prison as of July 7th, although he thought Hall was going to be released and deported. The FBI document cited above says that Hall shared a cell with Santos Trafficante. Ruby allegedly went to Cuba in September of 1959. According to British journalist, (FNU) Hudson, Ruby saw Trafficante while he (Ruby) was in Cuba.

Does anyone know when Hall got out of prison?

http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...amp;relPageId=4

Steve Thomas

[Ron Ecker]

I don't know when Hall was released, but even if Hall was still Trafficante's cellmate when Ruby visited, I imagine the visit would have taken place in a visiting park or visiting room, not in Trafficante's cell, so Hall would not have been present. (That's standard practice in U.S. prisons today anyway, for any number of security and management reasons. Outside visitors are not taken to inmates' cells.)

[Lee Forman]

I don't know when Hall was released, but even if Hall was still Trafficante's cellmate when Ruby visited, I imagine the visit would have taken place in a visiting park or visiting room, not in Trafficante's cell, so Hall would not have been present. (That's standard practice in U.S. prisons today anyway, for any number of security and management reasons. Outside visitors are not taken to inmates' cells.)

Actually Frank Ragano's book Mob Lawyer has some details on Trafficante's situation - going from memory, I do not believe that this was the case. I don't have the book any longer - maybe someone else can fill in the details.

- lee

[Scott Deitche]

Santo (no s on the end) was in a less than confining situation at Triscornia. He commented in later years at how well they were treated and they were not confined to cells per se. It concievable that when Ruby visited, Hall could have met him.

Hall shows up later on in Miami working for the Trafficante Cuban mob.

[Lee Forman]

Santo (no s on the end) was in a less than confining situation at Triscornia. He commented in later years at how well they were treated and they were not confined to cells per se. It concievable that when Ruby visited, Hall could have met him.

Hall shows up later on in Miami working for the Trafficante Cuban mob.

Thanks Scott. That is essentially what I remembered. Plus I heard the same from another source. More like 'house arrest' or being quarantined. To Steve's point, seems like a high probability.

There we go...

http://books.google.com/books?id=YOWNw_rmT...nBgp1oHTn_vt3EE

- lee

[Lee Forman]

No mention of Loran Lorenzo Eugene 'Skip' Hall Pacillo....

Mr. TRAFFICANTE. No; it was not. We had it pretty good.

Mr. PREYER. You had it pretty good?

Mr. TRAFFICANTE. We had it pretty good. We had our own food coming in and everything. It was like a big camp, like a big concentration camp. We had our own room. It wasn't too bad.

Chairman STOKES. And can you give us some idea about how many persons were being detained there at that time?

Mr. TRAFFICANTE. Well, they had two sides to this thing. They had, most of this thing, a lot of these people entered Cuba with no papers, especially sailors and people with no means of support. They would put them on one side and people that they thought had means of support that were not public charges, they would put them on the other side. I think at one time in our compound, you would call it, I think, we got to be about seven or eight.

Chairman STOKES. Were those other seven or eight also casino owners and operators?

Mr. TRAFFICANTE. Most of them were workers or casino owners.

Chairman STOKES. Did you know most of them?

Mr. TRAFFICANTE. Yes.

Chairman STOKES. Can you tell us who they were?

Mr. TRAFFICANTE. Well, for a time there, I would say for a day or two there was Mr. Dino Cellini, Mr. Jake Lansky, and myself, a fellow by the name of Chuck White, Guiseppe Di George, and that is about it.

[David Boylan]

If my memory is still working, Enrique Molina Rivera was a guard at Trescornia around this time and befriended Hall. Molina defected and was later associated with Hall and may have been the third person on the ill fortuned flight of Rorke and Geoffrey Sullivan. Gerry Hemming believed that Molina was a Cuban G2 plant.

[Lee Forman]

If my memory is still working, Enrique Molina Rivera was a guard at Trescornia around this time and befriended Hall. Molina defected and was later associated with Hall and may have been the third person on the ill fortuned flight of Rorke and Geoffrey Sullivan. Gerry Hemming believed that Molina was a Cuban G2 plant.

Awesome - never read that before - could explain a lack of wreckage. Plus if Molina was aboard, it would explain how he remained living. Rorke must have been a real thorn in Castro's side no matter what.

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.ph...ost&p=44796

- lee