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is the 'certificate" in the public record even real?

The law has always presumed that an official record is real, until PROVEN otherwise.

Translated for rayspeak: He does not have a real certificate of birth.

And why not his medical record,

Even a blind man can see that his health is just fine, but thank you for asking. How about you ask a life insurance underwriter whether he would sell him a life policy WITHOUT a medical exam? then ask the same question about Magoo.

Translated from rayspeak: ZerOBAMA is above the requests of the electorate and none of your business. How dare you ask.

his student record etc.

His student record speaks for itself. He was an outstanding student.

Translated from rayspeak: His records are not "available and none of you business. How dare you ask.

Do you really know ANYTHING about him?

Actually, Craig, when you put it that way, I guess the only thing I know for certain is that Barack HUSSEIN Obama is the NEXT PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.

I"m going to feel quite sorry for you come Nov. 5 when ZerooO is NOT the president. It will be one hell of a koolaid hangover.

Makes you want to eat your heart out, don't it?

No, not at all. I'll be able to say, Thank you Vice President -elect Palin.

C'mon Craig.... The Shrub blew it with Iraq, the GOPer's will be paying for years and years. --AND--

Obama's birth certificate is all over the web, time for the GOP's Gofer's to get agofer'in, where's the beef, son? Or is this just 'nother GOP nocturnal emi**ion...

"all over the web" now there is somthing to brag about. Of course if its "on the web" it must be true eh dave? Oswald did it is "all over the web". So can we count you in that camp as well now? Of course its not the GOP pushing this, but rather a dyed in the wool dim...imagine that.

Kool-aid? Hell son, we're you in Jonestown too? I was there 3 days after the mass suicide. You GOP gofers sure like that Kool-aid term. Shame on you for having no appreciation for that tragedy -- then again, it was nearly ALL black casualties, makes no difference right?

I'm so happy for you. But your presence gives you no more or less appreciation than many others dave. People are people. RACE really means nothing in the long haul. But how wonderful for you, to bring RACISM into the discussion. It is however a step up from the gutter for you, at least you didn't call anyone a nazi this time...

"RACE really means nothing in the long haul." Ahh, when they (non-whites) get to heaven that's their reward? RACISM isn't a word to run from, son -- confront it.... Concerning this election its displayed day in and day out. How many blacks or browns do you see in a McCain and/or Sweet Sarah's rally. Few to NONE.... great job, GOPer racist reich-wingers. GOPer fear is palpable this cycle.

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I'll be able to say, Thank you Vice President -elect Palin.[/color]
While a majority viewed Ms. Palin as unqualified for the vice presidency, roughly three-quarters of voters saw Mr. Obama’s running mate, Senator Joseph R. Biden Jr. of Delaware, as qualified for the job. The increase in the number of voters who said Ms. Palin was not prepared was driven almost entirely by Republicans and independents.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/31/us/polit...amp;oref=slogin

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is the 'certificate" in the public record even real?

The law has always presumed that an official record is real, until PROVEN otherwise.

Translated for rayspeak: He does not have a real certificate of birth.

And why not his medical record,

Even a blind man can see that his health is just fine, but thank you for asking. How about you ask a life insurance underwriter whether he would sell him a life policy WITHOUT a medical exam? then ask the same question about Magoo.

Translated from rayspeak: ZerOBAMA is above the requests of the electorate and none of your business. How dare you ask.

his student record etc.

His student record speaks for itself. He was an outstanding student.

Translated from rayspeak: His records are not "available and none of you business. How dare you ask.

Do you really know ANYTHING about him?

Crawled back down I see, nazi AND racism inthe same post. Welcome back davie...

Actually, Craig, when you put it that way, I guess the only thing I know for certain is that Barack HUSSEIN Obama is the NEXT PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.

I"m going to feel quite sorry for you come Nov. 5 when ZerooO is NOT the president. It will be one hell of a koolaid hangover.

Makes you want to eat your heart out, don't it?

No, not at all. I'll be able to say, Thank you Vice President -elect Palin.

C'mon Craig.... The Shrub blew it with Iraq, the GOPer's will be paying for years and years. --AND--

Obama's birth certificate is all over the web, time for the GOP's Gofer's to get agofer'in, where's the beef, son? Or is this just 'nother GOP nocturnal emi**ion...

"all over the web" now there is somthing to brag about. Of course if its "on the web" it must be true eh dave? Oswald did it is "all over the web". So can we count you in that camp as well now? Of course its not the GOP pushing this, but rather a dyed in the wool dim...imagine that.

Kool-aid? Hell son, we're you in Jonestown too? I was there 3 days after the mass suicide. You GOP gofers sure like that Kool-aid term. Shame on you for having no appreciation for that tragedy -- then again, it was nearly ALL black casualties, makes no difference right?

I'm so happy for you. But your presence gives you no more or less appreciation than many others dave. People are people. RACE really means nothing in the long haul. But how wonderful for you, to bring RACISM into the discussion. It is however a step up from the gutter for you, at least you didn't call anyone a nazi this time...

"RACE really means nothing in the long haul." Ahh, when they (non-whites) get to heaven that's their reward? RACISM isn't a word to run from, son -- confront it.... Concerning this election its displayed day in and day out. How many blacks or browns do you see in a McCain and/or Sweet Sarah's rally. Few to NONE.... great job, GOPer racist reich-wingers. GOPer fear is palpable this cycle.

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I'll be able to say, Thank you Vice President -elect Palin.[/color]
While a majority viewed Ms. Palin as unqualified for the vice presidency, roughly three-quarters of voters saw Mr. Obama’s running mate, Senator Joseph R. Biden Jr. of Delaware, as qualified for the job. The increase in the number of voters who said Ms. Palin was not prepared was driven almost entirely by Republicans and independents.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/31/us/polit...amp;oref=slogin

A NYT/SEE-BS poll eh? Now there is something to grab hold of. I guess they too will have their cookies frosted by Vice President -elect Palin....

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I'll be able to say, Thank you Vice President -elect Palin.[/color]
While a majority viewed Ms. Palin as unqualified for the vice presidency, roughly three-quarters of voters saw Mr. Obama’s running mate, Senator Joseph R. Biden Jr. of Delaware, as qualified for the job. The increase in the number of voters who said Ms. Palin was not prepared was driven almost entirely by Republicans and independents.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/31/us/polit...amp;oref=slogin

Maybe I should vote OBIE too...I'll get free gas and a house! Pour this woman another glass of koolaid please.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6ikOxi9yYk...om/instapundit/

Shes voting for socialism.....

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Maybe I should vote OBIE too...

You may as well, Craig, since nearly everyone else is voting OBIE anyway, thanks to Vice-President WHACK-JOB.

If ya can't beat 'em....

Sorry Ray but I voted early and I can't take it back. Not that I would mind you.

But free gas and housing! What a deal! Do you think the woman is going to be dissapointed regardless of the outcome?

Gotta love the mob mentality!

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Gotta love the mob mentality!

And ya gotta love the dear old fumbler Magoo, who hasn't changed a bit from the old cartoons, as he seeks guidance from his new chief adviser, Joe the Plumber.

Joe, where are you? Where is Joe?" McCain asked, only to be greeted by an awkward silence. "Is Joe with us today? Joe, I thought you were here today."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20081030/ts_al...io_081030193140

Oh Magoo, I think you've done it again!

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Gotta love the mob mentality!

And ya gotta love the dear old fumbler Magoo, who hasn't changed a bit from the old cartoons, as he seeks guidance from his new chief adviser, Joe the Plumber.

Joe, where are you? Where is Joe?" McCain asked, only to be greeted by an awkward silence. "Is Joe with us today? Joe, I thought you were here today."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20081030/ts_al...io_081030193140

Oh Magoo, I think you've done it again!

No you have it wrong Ray, it is Sarah and Joe the plumber that will defeat the "one" . And McCain WILL have done it.

One of us eats crow here on Nov. 5th.....do you have your BBQ grill ready?

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it is Whack-Job Sarah and Joe the plumber that will defeat the "one" .

Pity this is not the World Wrestling Federation, or I too would vote for Whack-Job and Plumber Joe, and fuddy old Mister Magoo.

Such a sad sack you are Ray. Changing QUOTES now I see. More evidence of the koodaid or just a taste of things to come in a zerObama administration? Either case, its bad news all around.

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Such a sad sack you are Ray. Changing QUOTES now I see.

Seems I misjudged you, Craig; I thought you had a sense of humor.

I expect we will be seeing more of the SORE LOSER SYNDROME from your side as the bold Barack (who?) sweeps to a landslide in the Electoral College

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I haven’t posted in a few days because I had some big translation jobs to finish.

Regarding the Obama’s place of birth brouhaha he has indeed produced a birth certificate. The kooks are complaining that it is a 2007 copy rather than the original but I imagine lots of people don’t have their originals, I don’t have mine and both of my friends whom I asked said they don’t think they or their parents have theirs. It has been examined by researchers (students I imagine) from the Annenberg School of Journalism (U of Penn.) and seems to be quite authentic.

Additionally a pro-Clinton blogger trying to prove he wasn’t born in Hawaii found his birth announcement in a local newspaper but was honest enough to post it.

So unless anyone can produce evidence more convincing than ‘internet rumors’ that he was born in Kenya “the case” as Posner would say “is closed”

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html

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Such a sad sack you are Ray. Changing QUOTES now I see.

Seems I misjudged you, Craig; I thought you had a sense of humor.

I expect we will be seeing more of the SORE LOSER SYNDROME from your side as the bold Barack (who?) sweeps to a landslide in the Electoral College

I have quite a sense of humor, and would have taken no offense had you done something like

(Craig Lamson @ Oct 31 2008, 04:55 PM)

"it is Sarah and Joe the plumber that will defeat the "one"

Here I fixed it..."it is Whack-Job Sarah and Joe the plumber that will defeat the "one"

Messing with direct quotes is a no-no Ray

I'm not going to be a sore loser, if my side loses. I'll accept defeat and move on. Will you and the rest of the Obamabots do the same. or as some have suggest, will "blood run in the streets?"

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