A meeting with Dr. Roderick Ryan Attn. Len Colby

[Dean Hagerman]

Ok Len here you go

I just took the cover off my scanner and scanned the pages while holding the book like I would a newborn baby

I posted this under the fair use act for research purposes ONLY

I will take these scans down if Mr Twyman does not approve

These pages are scanned from my copy of "Bloody Treason" by Noel Twyman 1997

My favorite book on the assassination by the way

[Dean Hagerman]

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[Ron Ecker]

Reading Twyman, I don't understand how the limo could be moving in frame 302 and not moving in 303, even if there are frames deleted in between, to explain the background blur in 302 and absence thereof in 303. Between the two frames the limo has only progressed a couple of feet past Moorman, who is blurred in 302 and not blurred in 303. Moorman didn't notice this stop? Did she think the limo stopped so she could take her picture, or what? (Maybe she was distracted by that stepping into or out of the street business! No, wait, that can't be it, she looks stationary to me in both frames. What was it the Ferrie character said about a mystery wrapped inside an enigma?)

[Len Colby]

Thanks Dean!

Also unexplained are how Zappy or anyone else could have had the reflexes to intentionally stop panning in reaction to the limo suddenly stopping in a short fraction of a second even pro camera operators at sports events have difficulty when play suddenly changes speed or the direction. The limo is blurred in 303 so the most likely explanation is that Z simply slowed his pan a bit.

Also note that even according to Ryan an altered film would be a 3rd generation copy. Zavada determined it was an in camera original.

The same objection that alterationist make regarding Zavada applies to Ryan as well his area of expertise was the technical characteristics of film itself rather than content.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_7119...1/ai_n32258468/

Edited December 26, 2009 by Len Colby

[Dean Hagerman]

Thanks Dean!

Also unexplained are how Zappy or anyone else could have had the reflexes to intentionally stop panning in reaction to the limo suddenly stopping in a short fraction of a second even pro camera operators at sports events have difficulty when play suddenly changes speed or the direction. The limo is blurred in 303 so the most likely explanation is that Z simply slowed his pan a bit.

Also note that even according to Ryan an altered film would be a 3rd generation copy. Zavada determined it was an in camera original.

The same objection that alterationist make regarding Zavada applies to Ryan as well his area of expertise was the technical characteristics of film itself rather than content.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_7119...1/ai_n32258468/

Your welcome Len

I hope this helps others who think alteration was impossible

[Craig Lamson]

Thanks Dean!

Also unexplained are how Zappy or anyone else could have had the reflexes to intentionally stop panning in reaction to the limo suddenly stopping in a short fraction of a second even pro camera operators at sports events have difficulty when play suddenly changes speed or the direction. The limo is blurred in 303 so the most likely explanation is that Z simply slowed his pan a bit.

Also note that even according to Ryan an altered film would be a 3rd generation copy. Zavada determined it was an in camera original.

The same objection that alterationist make regarding Zavada applies to Ryan as well his area of expertise was the technical characteristics of film itself rather than content.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_7119...1/ai_n32258468/

Your welcome Len

I hope this helps others who think alteration was impossible

Twyman and Ryan can be totally dismissed due to the gross error that forms the basis for thier claim, and that is that limo is in "sharp focus" in either 302 or 303 and that the motion blur in the background dissappeard in 303. The limo shows motion blur in both images as does the background, throwing this silly argument into the dustbin of history along will all of the other equally silly alteration cliams.

Thanks for playing, but try again next time.

Edited December 26, 2009 by Craig Lamson

[Dean Hagerman]

Twyman and Ryan can be totally dismissed

Thats a bold statement

Of course Craig makes it without having read "Bloody Treason" besides the .00001% of the book that I just posted

[Guest James H. Fetzer]

Ron,

Not only did William Greer pull the limo to the left and to a halt to make sure that JFK would be taken out, but Motorcycle Officer Chaney motored forward to inform Chief Curry that the president had been shot and Mary Moorman and Jean Hill had stepped into the street to attract his attention, all of which have been removed from the film. You might want to review, "New Proof of JFK Film Fakery", which is at http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_ji..._of_jfk_fil.htm as well as "Zapruder JFK Film impeached by Moorman JFK Polaroid" at http://www.opednews.com/articles/Zapruder-...-090324-48.html You are not taking into account the extent of the fabrication. Check out the tutorial by John P. Costella at http://assassinationscience.com/johncostella/jfk/intro/ to broaden and deepen your understanding. I also recommend THE GREAT ZAPRUDER FILM HOAX (2003). I trust you appreciate that you are swimming in water that is infested with sharks! You can count on Noel Twyman and Dean Hagerman. Good luck!

Jim

Reading Twyman, I don't understand how the limo could be moving in frame 302 and not moving in 303, even if there are frames deleted in between, to explain the background blur in 302 and absence thereof in 303. Between the two frames the limo has only progressed a couple of feet past Moorman, who is blurred in 302 and not blurred in 303. Moorman didn't notice this stop? Did she think the limo stopped so she could take her picture, or what? (Maybe she was distracted by that stepping into or out of the street business! No, wait, that can't be it, she looks stationary to me in both frames. What was it the Ferrie character said about a mystery wrapped inside an enigma?)

Edited December 26, 2009 by James H. Fetzer

[Dean Hagerman]

Ron,

Not only did William Greer pull the limo to the left and to a halt to make sure that JFK would be taken out, but Motorcycle Officer Chaney motored forward to inform Chief Curry that the president had been shot and Mary Moorman and Jean Hill had stepped into the street to attract his attention, all of which have been removed from the film. You might want to review, "New Proof of JFK Film Fakery", which is at http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_ji..._of_jfk_fil.htm as well as "Zapruder JFK Film impeached by Moorman JFK Polaroid" at http://www.opednews.com/articles/Zapruder-...-090324-48.html You are not taking into account the extent of the fabrication. Check out the tutorial by John P. Costella at http://assassinationscience.com/johncostella/jfk/intro/ to broaden and deepen your understanding. I also recommend THE GREAT ZAPRUDER FILM HOAX (2003). I trust you appreciate that you are swimming in water that is infested with sharks! You can count on Noel Twyman and Dean Hagerman. Good luck!

Jim

Reading Twyman, I don't understand how the limo could be moving in frame 302 and not moving in 303, even if there are frames deleted in between, to explain the background blur in 302 and absence thereof in 303. Between the two frames the limo has only progressed a couple of feet past Moorman, who is blurred in 302 and not blurred in 303. Moorman didn't notice this stop? Did she think the limo stopped so she could take her picture, or what? (Maybe she was distracted by that stepping into or out of the street business! No, wait, that can't be it, she looks stationary to me in both frames. What was it the Ferrie character said about a mystery wrapped inside an enigma?)

Thanks Jim!

Its beyond me why so many researchers and members of this forum have not read TGZFH

Even if they read it and dont agree they at very least can understand where we stand and the thoughts of those who contributed to the book

I cant stress enough that all three books from Fetzer and others (Assassination Science, Murder In Dealey Plaza and The Great Zapruder Film Hoax) are a must have for any researchers library no matter what your stance on the assassination is

While I reccommend all three if you can only afford one buy TGZFH