Larry Florer

[Pat Speer]

Does anyone know the time Larry Florer was arrested and walked past the corner of Houston and Elm? It could be important.

[Bernice Moore]

no pat but here is his statement if that may help any...b

VOLUNTARY STATEMENT. Not Under Arrest. Form No. 86 SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT

COUNTY OF DALLAS, TEXAS

Before me, the undersigned authority, on this the 22nd day of

November A.D. 1963 personally appeared Larry Florer Address 3609 Potomac, Dallas, Texas Age 23 , Phone No. LA 1-7150 Deposes and says:

This afternoon about 10 minutes after the parade passed Poydras and Main Streets, I went to a little Bar-B-Que place on Pacific. I do not know the

name of this place and I went in and had a grilled cheese sandwich with a

friend of mine, Richard Bartholomew, who works at the National Bank of Commerce. They had a radio going on in the cafe, two gentlemen that were seated at the table next to us had the radio on. And something came on the

radio about the President being shot at, so I walked out with this other boy

and he went on to the bank and I walked down to the railroad tracks at Pacific and Houston Street. I was walking parallel to some of the tracks and

there were quite a few other people walking in the same direction I was going. I stopped on east side of Houston street across the street from the

Texas School Book Depository. I stood there for a few minutes and then a lady

that was standing next tome , I asked her where there was a telephone,

and she said that the only pay phone that she knew of was in the County Records building. She said that there were a lot of phones on the third floor

of this building that I was standing in front of. She said that she worked on

the third floor and there was probably a phone up there that I could use. So

I rode up the elevator with this lady and got off onthe third floor

with this lady and we walked to the information desk and this lady went on

back to her department, to her spot. So then I, there was a lady at the information desk and I asked her if I could borrow her telephone and she said

that all the lines were buys, or something to that effect. So I stood there

for a minute and a fellow walked up to me. He asked me what I want ed

and he told me that I couldn't use the phone.

So I walked back down to the

elevator and rode it back down to the lobby. As soon as I got to the lobby I

walked back outside and the fellow that I had talked to about using the phone

was pointing out the window, pointing toward me and said that I was the man

that was on the third floor. At this time two officer walked up to me

and said for me to come with them. These officers brought me to the County

Sheriff's Office. At no time did I see anyone leaving the building, the Texas

School Book Depository, while I was across the street from it.

/s/

Larry Florer

Subscribed and sworn to before me on this the 22nd day of Nov A. D. 1963

/s/ C.

C. Gentry

Notary

Public, Dallas County, Texas

[Bernice Moore]

pat here is the cook, cooper film that shows him being taken in...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pZbdB_xzVU&NR=1

b

Edited May 28, 2010 by Bernice Moore

[William Kelly]

Doesn't this sound suspiciously like the statement made by Jim Braden after he was taken into custody by Dallas Sheriff Lummi Lewis?

The elevator operator of the Dal-Tex building said he took Braden down from the 3rd floor but he didn't work in the building. Braden said he asked about a pay phone and was told there was one on the third floor and he went there and tried to call his mother and tell her about the assassination.

Or do normally uninqusitive citizens suddenly get paranoid and suspicious when a president is shot in front of them?

BK

no pat but here is his statement if that may help any...b

VOLUNTARY STATEMENT. Not Under Arrest. Form No. 86 SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT

COUNTY OF DALLAS, TEXAS

Before me, the undersigned authority, on this the 22nd day of

November A.D. 1963 personally appeared Larry Florer Address 3609 Potomac, Dallas, Texas Age 23 , Phone No. LA 1-7150 Deposes and says:

This afternoon about 10 minutes after the parade passed Poydras and Main Streets, I went to a little Bar-B-Que place on Pacific. I do not know the

name of this place and I went in and had a grilled cheese sandwich with a

friend of mine, Richard Bartholomew, who works at the National Bank of Commerce. They had a radio going on in the cafe, two gentlemen that were seated at the table next to us had the radio on. And something came on the

radio about the President being shot at, so I walked out with this other boy

and he went on to the bank and I walked down to the railroad tracks at Pacific and Houston Street. I was walking parallel to some of the tracks and

there were quite a few other people walking in the same direction I was going. I stopped on east side of Houston street across the street from the

Texas School Book Depository. I stood there for a few minutes and then a lady

that was standing next tome , I asked her where there was a telephone,

and she said that the only pay phone that she knew of was in the County Records building. She said that there were a lot of phones on the third floor

of this building that I was standing in front of. She said that she worked on

the third floor and there was probably a phone up there that I could use. So

I rode up the elevator with this lady and got off onthe third floor

with this lady and we walked to the information desk and this lady went on

back to her department, to her spot. So then I, there was a lady at the information desk and I asked her if I could borrow her telephone and she said

that all the lines were buys, or something to that effect. So I stood there

for a minute and a fellow walked up to me. He asked me what I want ed

and he told me that I couldn't use the phone.

So I walked back down to the

elevator and rode it back down to the lobby. As soon as I got to the lobby I

walked back outside and the fellow that I had talked to about using the phone

was pointing out the window, pointing toward me and said that I was the man

that was on the third floor. At this time two officer walked up to me

and said for me to come with them. These officers brought me to the County

Sheriff's Office. At no time did I see anyone leaving the building, the Texas

School Book Depository, while I was across the street from it.

/s/

Larry Florer

Subscribed and sworn to before me on this the 22nd day of Nov A. D. 1963

/s/ C.

C. Gentry

Notary

Public, Dallas County, Texas

[Pat Speer]

pat here is the cook, cooper film that shows him being taken in...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pZbdB_xzVU&NR=1

b

Thanks, Bernice. In that footage, one can see the white truck parked out on Houston Street that can also be seen in the sniper's nest photos. This truck is not visible in the Alyea film of Fritz with the shells, however. This led me to think that maybe we could put a time stamp on the sequence in the Alyea film that proved the "official" story false. No such luck.

The WFAA footage on youtube shows Charles Murphy announcing the detainment of a young man, presumably Florer, about 20 minutes before Robert Macneil reported on Kilduff's press conference. This suggests that Florer was dragged past Cook sometime around 1:13 or so.

Well, the most I can make of this is that the Alyea footage of Fritz looking at the shells was taken after his arrival at the TSBD, and before 1:13. This means that the shells were found more than ten minutes before they were photographed. Not exactly game-changing information.

Edited May 28, 2010 by Pat Speer