Texas Game Management Agency

[John Navin]

"Games management" -- I know it's "hunting & fishing" but, as a former resident of Nevada, the first thing that came to mind was, you know, the casino regulatory agencies. I wonder if the guy who mentioned "games" agents meant those who investigated Jack Ruby's gambling friends.

I know it's wild, but this is one case where I try to keep an open mind.

[William Kelly]

"Games management" -- I know it's "hunting & fishing" but, as a former resident of Nevada, the first thing that came to mind was, you know, the casino regulatory agencies. I wonder if the guy who mentioned "games" agents meant those who investigated Jack Ruby's gambling friends.

I know it's wild, but this is one case where I try to keep an open mind.

Hi John, No, I don't think they had anything to do with gambling games. The Fish & Game Commission was a sportsmans regulatory commission, and some of their men were in the TSBD immediately after the assassinaiton. I think we are narrowing it down as to who ran that org., and possibly who the guys were that were in the TSBD, though it doesn't seem anybody mentioned them in any reports or they filed any reports themselves, which makes them suspicious.

The rundown on the gambling however, at least in Dallas, was probably the responsiblity of the vice squad, which like the intelligence division under Revell and Gannaway, probably came under the same Special Services Bureau.

And as PDS points out, Gannaway's secretary was good friends with Ruby.

BK

[Robert Howard]

"Games management" -- I know it's "hunting & fishing" but, as a former resident of Nevada, the first thing that came to mind was, you know, the casino regulatory agencies. I wonder if the guy who mentioned "games" agents meant those who investigated Jack Ruby's gambling friends.

I know it's wild, but this is one case where I try to keep an open mind.

Hi John, No, I don't think they had anything to do with gambling games. The Fish & Game Commission was a sportsmans regulatory commission, and some of their men were in the TSBD immediately after the assassinaiton. I think we are narrowing it down as to who ran that org., and possibly who the guys were that were in the TSBD, though it doesn't seem anybody mentioned them in any reports or they filed any reports themselves, which makes them suspicious.

The rundown on the gambling however, at least in Dallas, was probably the responsiblity of the vice squad, which like the intelligence division under Revell and Gannaway, probably came under the same Special Services Bureau.

And as PDS points out, Gannaway's secretary was good friends with Ruby.

BK

While there is no evidence to include Major Jesse Guy Smith as one of the officials of the Texas Game Management Agency, there is reason to know of him, which reveals a

little about the underlying history of that time period.

At least I thought it was noteworthy.

See Decker biography page 266 "Maj. Guy Smith regional commander of the Texas Department of Public Safety called Decker, the typical

Texan you wouldn't recognize as a sheriff if you met him on the street.

reprinted from DMN October 21, 1960

Criminal Bar Luncheon Honors Decker

DMN November 30, 1961 Patrol Chief's Father Succumbs at Austin

Silas S. Smith, Sr, father of the Highway Patrol Chief in Dallas, Major Guy Smith

died Tuesday night

DMN 4-28-1976 Red Cross Volunteers, Staff Will be Honored

The top honoree will be Maj J Guy Smith who has 40 years of service

with the Red Cross on its first-aid committee and on the chapter

board of directors

DOROTHY SMITH

Funeral services for Dorothy Smith, 87, of Huntsville, were held Sept. 13, 2001 at Old Waverly Presbyterian Church with the Rev. Dan Alexander officiating. Interment was at Palacios Cemetery. Mrs. Smith retired as a home economics teacher for over 30 years in Palacios. She is survived by daughter, Renee Stone and husband Robert of New Waverly; son, Jesse Guy Smith III and wife Sherry of Huntsville; grandchildren, Jesse Guy Smith IV, Jessica Stone Starkey and husband Shane, Cody Smith, Corey Smith, Carley Smith, Charlotte Stone, Scott Robert Stone and other loving relatives. She is preceded in death by her husband, Jesse Guy Smith, Jr. Pallbearers were Jesse Guy Smith IV, Cody Smith, Corey Smith, Shane Starkey and Scott Stone.

http://www.palaciosb...archives2.shtml

CE 768 - Final survey report prepared by Special Agent Lawson concerning President Kennedy's trip to Dallas, dated ...

see page 611

Persons assisting and cooperating with this Service in preparation for this visit:

Maj. Guy Smith, Texas Department of Public Safety

http://www.maryferre...4&relPageId=637

DMN 12-6-1968 Smith Named Head of Masons

WACO - A soft spoken Dallas law enforcement officer who worked his way up

from a highway patrolman to a regional commanders post with the Texas Department of Public Safety

became the leader of Texas' more than 240,000 Master Masons.

Following traditions, delegates from 970 local masonic lodges elevated J. Guy Smith to the Grand

Masters Chair for the Grand Lodge of Texas and also advanced in order the next two top elective officials.

.....The new Grand Master is a 59-year old native of Commanche. After attending Austin High School

and a commercial college in Austin, he joined the Department of Public Safety Sept. 1, 1935 and progressed

through DPS jobs until he was named regional commander of the Dallas DPS region.

He resides at 2054 Prichard Lane

Smith became a Master Mason in Waco in 1943, at the George

N. Denton Lodge 24. He has also been affiliated with a lodge in Tyler and with East Dallas Lodge 1200.

He is a 33rd Degree Scottish Rite Mason.

also

http://www.lib.utexa...7.html#bioghist

It is also worth mentioning that at NARA, there are 14 hits under

Department of Public Safety, discounting one which is in reference

to the Louisiana Department of Public Safety, the remainder

all appear related to the Texas DPS;

Of those 13 documents, 6 are postponed in full, even though

they are listed as Declassified.

several mention Jack Revill, in the subject listing.

Edited January 20, 2011 by Robert Howard

[Robert Howard]

"Games management" -- I know it's "hunting & fishing" but, as a former resident of Nevada, the first thing that came to mind was, you know, the casino regulatory agencies. I wonder if the guy who mentioned "games" agents meant those who investigated Jack Ruby's gambling friends.

I know it's wild, but this is one case where I try to keep an open mind.

Hi John, No, I don't think they had anything to do with gambling games. The Fish & Game Commission was a sportsmans regulatory commission, and some of their men were in the TSBD immediately after the assassinaiton. I think we are narrowing it down as to who ran that org., and possibly who the guys were that were in the TSBD, though it doesn't seem anybody mentioned them in any reports or they filed any reports themselves, which makes them suspicious.

The rundown on the gambling however, at least in Dallas, was probably the responsiblity of the vice squad, which like the intelligence division under Revell and Gannaway, probably came under the same Special Services Bureau.

And as PDS points out, Gannaway's secretary was good friends with Ruby.

BK

While there is no evidence to include Major Jesse Guy Smith as one of the officials of the Texas Game Management Agency, there is reason to know of him, which reveals a

little about the underlying history of that time period.

At least I thought it was noteworthy.

See Decker biography page 266 "Maj. Guy Smith regional commander of the Texas Department of Public Safety called Decker, the typical

Texan you wouldn't recognize as a sheriff if you met him on the street.

reprinted from DMN October 21, 1960

Criminal Bar Luncheon Honors Decker

DMN November 30, 1961 Patrol Chief's Father Succumbs at Austin

Silas S. Smith, Sr, father of the Highway Patrol Chief in Dallas, Major Guy Smith

died Tuesday night

DMN 4-28-1976 Red Cross Volunteers, Staff Will be Honored

The top honoree will be Maj J Guy Smith who has 40 years of service

with the Red Cross on its first-aid committee and on the chapter

board of directors

DOROTHY SMITH

Funeral services for Dorothy Smith, 87, of Huntsville, were held Sept. 13, 2001 at Old Waverly Presbyterian Church with the Rev. Dan Alexander officiating. Interment was at Palacios Cemetery. Mrs. Smith retired as a home economics teacher for over 30 years in Palacios. She is survived by daughter, Renee Stone and husband Robert of New Waverly; son, Jesse Guy Smith III and wife Sherry of Huntsville; grandchildren, Jesse Guy Smith IV, Jessica Stone Starkey and husband Shane, Cody Smith, Corey Smith, Carley Smith, Charlotte Stone, Scott Robert Stone and other loving relatives. She is preceded in death by her husband, Jesse Guy Smith, Jr. Pallbearers were Jesse Guy Smith IV, Cody Smith, Corey Smith, Shane Starkey and Scott Stone.

http://www.palaciosb...archives2.shtml

CE 768 - Final survey report prepared by Special Agent Lawson concerning President Kennedy's trip to Dallas, dated ...

see page 611

Persons assisting and cooperating with this Service in preparation for this visit:

Maj. Guy Smith, Texas Department of Public Safety

http://www.maryferre...4&relPageId=637

DMN 12-6-1968 Smith Named Head of Masons

WACO - A soft spoken Dallas law enforcement officer who worked his way up

from a highway patrolman to a regional commanders post with the Texas Department of Public Safety

became the leader of Texas' more than 240,000 Master Masons.

Following traditions, delegates from 970 local masonic lodges elevated J. Guy Smith to the Grand

Masters Chair for the Grand Lodge of Texas and also advanced in order the next two top elective officials.

.....The new Grand Master is a 59-year old native of Commanche. After attending Austin High School

and a commercial college in Austin, he joined the Department of Public Safety Sept. 1, 1935 and progressed

through DPS jobs until he was named regional commander of the Dallas DPS region.

He resides at 2054 Prichard Lane

Smith became a Master Mason in Waco in 1943, at the George

N. Denton Lodge 24. He has also been affiliated with a lodge in Tyler and with East Dallas Lodge 1200.

He is a 33rd Degree Scottish Rite Mason.

also

http://www.lib.utexa...7.html#bioghist

It is also worth mentioning that at NARA, there are 14 hits under

Department of Public Safety, discounting one which is in reference

to the Louisiana Department of Public Safety, the remainder

all appear related to the Texas DPS;

Of those 13 documents, 6 are postponed in full, even though

they are listed as Declassified.

several mention Jack Revill, in the subject listing.

July 17, 1962

Machine Guns Seized in ‘58 transferred

Marshall, Texas (sp)

A shipment of machine guns once destined

for delivery to Fidel Castro’s troops in

Cuba and seized by Federal agents in

Gilmer in 1958, was transferred from the

Longhorn Ordnance Works to Dallas

Monday.

The transfer was made by W.S. Rainey

and Bill Lewis of the Alcohol and Tax

Unit in Marshall.

Del Conde, who gained widespread

publicity as the stateside “purchasing

agent” for Castro’s 26th of July movement

during its rise to power, had the cache of

guns in his possession when he was arrested.

He was later tried and sentenced by a Federal

court for violation of the Federal Firearms

Act.

The guns were stored at Longhorn after

his arrest.

The guns were lightweight British-made

Sten guns, a type of machine-gun used by

guerilla units during World War II.

Just a preliminary look.

[William Kelly]

"Games management" -- I know it's "hunting & fishing" but, as a former resident of Nevada, the first thing that came to mind was, you know, the casino regulatory agencies. I wonder if the guy who mentioned "games" agents meant those who investigated Jack Ruby's gambling friends.

I know it's wild, but this is one case where I try to keep an open mind.

Hi John, No, I don't think they had anything to do with gambling games. The Fish & Game Commission was a sportsmans regulatory commission, and some of their men were in the TSBD immediately after the assassinaiton. I think we are narrowing it down as to who ran that org., and possibly who the guys were that were in the TSBD, though it doesn't seem anybody mentioned them in any reports or they filed any reports themselves, which makes them suspicious.

The rundown on the gambling however, at least in Dallas, was probably the responsiblity of the vice squad, which like the intelligence division under Revell and Gannaway, probably came under the same Special Services Bureau.

And as PDS points out, Gannaway's secretary was good friends with Ruby.

BK

While there is no evidence to include Major Jesse Guy Smith as one of the officials of the Texas Game Management Agency, there is reason to know of him, which reveals a

little about the underlying history of that time period.

At least I thought it was noteworthy.

See Decker biography page 266 "Maj. Guy Smith regional commander of the Texas Department of Public Safety called Decker, the typical

Texan you wouldn't recognize as a sheriff if you met him on the street.

reprinted from DMN October 21, 1960

Criminal Bar Luncheon Honors Decker

DMN November 30, 1961 Patrol Chief's Father Succumbs at Austin

Silas S. Smith, Sr, father of the Highway Patrol Chief in Dallas, Major Guy Smith

died Tuesday night

DMN 4-28-1976 Red Cross Volunteers, Staff Will be Honored

The top honoree will be Maj J Guy Smith who has 40 years of service

with the Red Cross on its first-aid committee and on the chapter

board of directors

DOROTHY SMITH

Funeral services for Dorothy Smith, 87, of Huntsville, were held Sept. 13, 2001 at Old Waverly Presbyterian Church with the Rev. Dan Alexander officiating. Interment was at Palacios Cemetery. Mrs. Smith retired as a home economics teacher for over 30 years in Palacios. She is survived by daughter, Renee Stone and husband Robert of New Waverly; son, Jesse Guy Smith III and wife Sherry of Huntsville; grandchildren, Jesse Guy Smith IV, Jessica Stone Starkey and husband Shane, Cody Smith, Corey Smith, Carley Smith, Charlotte Stone, Scott Robert Stone and other loving relatives. She is preceded in death by her husband, Jesse Guy Smith, Jr. Pallbearers were Jesse Guy Smith IV, Cody Smith, Corey Smith, Shane Starkey and Scott Stone.

http://www.palaciosb...archives2.shtml

CE 768 - Final survey report prepared by Special Agent Lawson concerning President Kennedy's trip to Dallas, dated ...

see page 611

Persons assisting and cooperating with this Service in preparation for this visit:

Maj. Guy Smith, Texas Department of Public Safety

http://www.maryferre...4&relPageId=637

DMN 12-6-1968 Smith Named Head of Masons

WACO - A soft spoken Dallas law enforcement officer who worked his way up

from a highway patrolman to a regional commanders post with the Texas Department of Public Safety

became the leader of Texas' more than 240,000 Master Masons.

Following traditions, delegates from 970 local masonic lodges elevated J. Guy Smith to the Grand

Masters Chair for the Grand Lodge of Texas and also advanced in order the next two top elective officials.

.....The new Grand Master is a 59-year old native of Commanche. After attending Austin High School

and a commercial college in Austin, he joined the Department of Public Safety Sept. 1, 1935 and progressed

through DPS jobs until he was named regional commander of the Dallas DPS region.

He resides at 2054 Prichard Lane

Smith became a Master Mason in Waco in 1943, at the George

N. Denton Lodge 24. He has also been affiliated with a lodge in Tyler and with East Dallas Lodge 1200.

He is a 33rd Degree Scottish Rite Mason.

also

http://www.lib.utexa...7.html#bioghist

It is also worth mentioning that at NARA, there are 14 hits under

Department of Public Safety, discounting one which is in reference

to the Louisiana Department of Public Safety, the remainder

all appear related to the Texas DPS;

Of those 13 documents, 6 are postponed in full, even though

they are listed as Declassified.

several mention Jack Revill, in the subject listing.

July 17, 1962

Machine Guns Seized in '58 transferred

Marshall, Texas (sp)

A shipment of machine guns once destined

for delivery to Fidel Castro's troops in

Cuba and seized by Federal agents in

Gilmer in 1958, was transferred from the

Longhorn Ordnance Works to Dallas

Monday.

The transfer was made by W.S. Rainey

and Bill Lewis of the Alcohol and Tax

Unit in Marshall.

Del Conde, who gained widespread

publicity as the stateside "purchasing

agent" for Castro's 26th of July movement

during its rise to power, had the cache of

guns in his possession when he was arrested.

He was later tried and sentenced by a Federal

court for violation of the Federal Firearms

Act.

The guns were stored at Longhorn after

his arrest.

The guns were lightweight British-made

Sten guns, a type of machine-gun used by

guerilla units during World War II.

Just a preliminary look.

Good show Robert!

Now we want to know who the Alochol Tax Unit guy were in the TSBD.

BK

[Mark Knight]

"Games management" -- I know it's "hunting & fishing" but, as a former resident of Nevada, the first thing that came to mind was, you know, the casino regulatory agencies. I wonder if the guy who mentioned "games" agents meant those who investigated Jack Ruby's gambling friends.

I know it's wild, but this is one case where I try to keep an open mind.

After reading Revill's testimony and mention of Gannaway and the Special Services Bureau, I would think that the "games management officers" [as opposed to "game officers"] might be part of the squad investigating gambling...possibly being pressed into duty supplementing the OTHER detectives in the DPD. I still think that may be a direction worth pursuing...and that the Fish and Game area might be a [pardon the pun] red herring.

[Robert Howard]

"Games management" -- I know it's "hunting & fishing" but, as a former resident of Nevada, the first thing that came to mind was, you know, the casino regulatory agencies. I wonder if the guy who mentioned "games" agents meant those who investigated Jack Ruby's gambling friends.

I know it's wild, but this is one case where I try to keep an open mind.

After reading Revill's testimony and mention of Gannaway and the Special Services Bureau, I would think that the "games management officers" [as opposed to "game officers"] might be part of the squad investigating gambling...possibly being pressed into duty supplementing the OTHER detectives in the DPD. I still think that may be a direction worth pursuing...and that the Fish and Game area might be a [pardon the pun] red herring.

This document lists a reference to Chesley Jones, Alcohol Tax Unit, on the same page is a reference to Roberrt Ray McKeown, gun runner figure, which is not exactly

mutually exclusive to the previous article I posted. Not the reference to 1958, which is also the same period as the article.

A word of caution, I doubt seriously you are going to find a document that references and Alcohol Tax Unit agent, or an

agent of the Texas Game Management Agency as participating in the search of the Texas School Book Depository.

If you get some type of confirmation of that fact, my prediction is that it will come via the same manner that the whole issue began through a policeman or media person who was actually there that day in the Depository; obviously just an opinion.

Edited January 24, 2011 by Robert Howard

[Robert Howard]

"Games management" -- I know it's "hunting & fishing" but, as a former resident of Nevada, the first thing that came to mind was, you know, the casino regulatory agencies. I wonder if the guy who mentioned "games" agents meant those who investigated Jack Ruby's gambling friends.

I know it's wild, but this is one case where I try to keep an open mind.

After reading Revill's testimony and mention of Gannaway and the Special Services Bureau, I would think that the "games management officers" [as opposed to "game officers"] might be part of the squad investigating gambling...possibly being pressed into duty supplementing the OTHER detectives in the DPD. I still think that may be a direction worth pursuing...and that the Fish and Game area might be a [pardon the pun] red herring.

This document lists a reference to Chesley Jones, Alcohol Tax Unit, on the same page is a reference to Roberrt Ray McKeown, gun runner figure, which is not exactly

mutually exclusive to the previous article I posted. Not the reference to 1958, which is also the same period as the article.

http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=57030&relPageId=56

A word of caution, I doubt seriously you are going to find a document that references and Alcohol Tax Unit agent, or an

agent of the Texas Game Management Agency as participating in the search of the Texas School Book Depository.

If you get some type of confirmation of that fact, my prediction is that it will come via the same manner that the whole issue began through a policeman

or media person who was actually there that day in the Depository; obviously just an opinion.

[Robert Howard]

"Games management" -- I know it's "hunting & fishing" but, as a former resident of Nevada, the first thing that came to mind was, you know, the casino regulatory agencies. I wonder if the guy who mentioned "games" agents meant those who investigated Jack Ruby's gambling friends.

I know it's wild, but this is one case where I try to keep an open mind.

After reading Revill's testimony and mention of Gannaway and the Special Services Bureau, I would think that the "games management officers" [as opposed to "game officers"] might be part of the squad investigating gambling...possibly being pressed into duty supplementing the OTHER detectives in the DPD. I still think that may be a direction worth pursuing...and that the Fish and Game area might be a [pardon the pun] red herring.

This document lists a reference to Chesley Jones, Alcohol Tax Unit, on the same page is a reference to Roberrt Ray McKeown, gun runner figure, which is not exactly

mutually exclusive to the previous article I posted. Not the reference to 1958, which is also the same period as the article.

http://www.maryferre...30&relPageId=56

A word of caution, I doubt seriously you are going to find a document that references and Alcohol Tax Unit agent, or an

agent of the Texas Game Management Agency as participating in the search of the Texas School Book Depository.

If you get some type of confirmation of that fact, my prediction is that it will come via the same manner that the whole issue began through a policeman

or media person who was actually there that day in the Depository; obviously just an opinion.

Update . . . .

Dallas Morning News; 5-27-1964

New Wardens for North, East Texas Announced;

.....the new wardens their hometowns and assigned areas include

Wayne Chappell

Richard Corley

Gully Cowsert Jr.

C. W. Forsythe

Waymond Gerza

Norman Hooten, Garland, Crockett County

Ronald Jackson

Jay Pemberton

Raymond Urban

February 23, 1967

Dallas Morning News

Ruby Will Filed by Ex-Deputy

the will filed by Norman H. Hooten, 26, a former Dallas county deputy sheriff

as beneficiary.......

DA Is Interested In Shooting Case 3/31/1967

A spokesman for New Orleans District Attorney Jim Garrison

who is conducting a probe into the assassination of President Kennedy

indicated his office may contact Norman Hooten who was the target of

an unsuccessful attack from armed men in a speeding automobile

Thursday night. Hooten a Galveston county game warden, is writing a

book on conversations he had with Jack Ruby, while Ruby, who shot

presidential assassin suspect Lee Harvey Oswald was being held in

the Dallas County Jail

........Hooten said Thursday, he was fired upon by men in an automobile

which followed him as he turned off a deserted street inside the League

City city limits.......

http://www.maryferre...99&relPageId=63

Sometimes it's not how fast you cross the finish line, but that you

manage to cross the finish line at all......

Edited March 4, 2011 by Robert Howard