Lyndon Johnson makes "cowboy love" to Jackie post assassination

[Terry Mauro]

I think that LBJ's "revelation" that we were "running a damned Murder Incorporated in the Caribbean" has to be carefully studied in the context of the interview source, and the political times, to determine to whom it would be most damaging to at the time:

Nixon?

The JFK/RFK legacy?

The Eastern Establishment? (Rockefeller-Harriman)

Note that Nixon lived to regret bringing up essentially the same topic to Dick Helms.

If LBJ was pointing his finger at the Kennedy political machine he might not be that far off. Look at the guys in the Kennedy Justice Department that went over to run INTERTEL in the Bahamas, or Louie Jacobs mob outfit up in Buffalo NY.

[Guest Robert Morrow]

I think that LBJ's "revelation" that we were "running a damned Murder Incorporated in the Caribbean" has to be carefully studied in the context of the interview source, and the political times, to determine to whom it would be most damaging to at the time:

Nixon?

The JFK/RFK legacy?

The Eastern Establishment? (Rockefeller-Harriman)

Note that Nixon lived to regret bringing up essentially the same topic to Dick Helms.

If LBJ was pointing his finger at the Kennedy political machine he might not be that far off. Look at the guys in the Kennedy Justice Department that went over to run INTERTEL in the Bahamas, or Louie Jacobs mob outfit up in Buffalo NY.

Lyndon Johnson was indeed POINTING HIS FINGER AT THE KENNEDY ADMINISTRATION by saying we were running a Murder, Inc. down in the Carribean and he was doing it as a DIVERSIONARY TACTIC to cast blame away from him and what HE LBJ did both in regards to the JFK Assassination and what he did on the foreign policy front. Just like Lyndon Johnson was using DIVERSIONARY tactics when he told various folks over the years that JFK was assassinated by Castro, the Vietnamese, or the CIA. LBJ told Madeleine Brown that the CIA and Texas oil leaders assassinated John Kennedy. LBJ was right about that last one EXCEPT that he noticeabley and incorrectly left himself out. Lyndon Johnson was running Murder, Inc. down in Texas:

http://home.earthlink.net/~sixthfloor/estes.htm

LETTER #2 - FROM DOUGLAS CADDY (lawyer for Billie Sol Estes)

August 9, 1984

Mr. Stephen S. Trott

Assistant Attorney General, Criminal Division

U.S. Department of Justice

Washington, D. C. 20530

RE: Mr. Billie Sol Estes

Dear Mr. Trott:

My client, Mr. Estes, has authorized me to make this reply to your letter of May 29, 1984. Mr. Estes was a member of a four-member group, headed by Lyndon Johnson, which committed criminal acts in Texas in the 1960's. The other two, besides Mr. Estes and LBJ, were Cliff Carter and Mac Wallace. Mr. Estes is willing to disclose his knowledge concerning the following criminal offenses:

I. Murders

1. The killing of Henry Marshall

2. The killing of George Krutilek

3. The killing of Ike Rogers and his secretary

4. The killing of Harold Orr

5. The killing of Coleman Wade

6. The killing of Josefa Johnson

7. The killing of John Kinser

8. The killing of President J. F. Kennedy.

Mr. Estes is willing to testify that LBJ ordered these killings, and that he transmitted his orders through Cliff Carter to Mac Wallace, who executed the murders. In the cases of murders nos. 1-7, Mr. Estes' knowledge of the precise details concerning the way the murders were executed stems from conversations he had shortly after each event with Cliff Carter and Mac Wallace.

In addition, a short time after Mr. Estes was released from prison in 1971, he met with Cliff Carter and they reminisced about what had occurred in the past, including the murders. During their conversation, Carter orally compiled a list of 17 murders which had been committed, some of which Mr. Estes was unfamiliar. A living witness was present at that meeting and should be willing to testify about it. He is Kyle Brown, recently of Houston and now living in Brady, Texas.

Mr. Estes, states that Mac Wallace, whom he describes as a "stone killer" with a communist background, recruited Jack Ruby, who in turn recruited Lee Harvey Oswald. Mr. Estes says that Cliff Carter told him that Mac Wallace fired a shot from the grassy knoll in Dallas, which hit JFK from the front during the assassination.

[The letter continues …]

Sincerely yours,

Douglas Caddy

Edited September 16, 2010 by Robert Morrow

[Terry Mauro]

I think that LBJ's "revelation" that we were "running a damned Murder Incorporated in the Caribbean" has to be carefully studied in the context of the interview source, and the political times, to determine to whom it would be most damaging to at the time:

Nixon?

The JFK/RFK legacy?

The Eastern Establishment? (Rockefeller-Harriman)

Note that Nixon lived to regret bringing up essentially the same topic to Dick Helms.

If LBJ was pointing his finger at the Kennedy political machine he might not be that far off. Look at the guys in the Kennedy Justice Department that went over to run INTERTEL in the Bahamas, or Louie Jacobs mob outfit up in Buffalo NY.

Lyndon Johnson was indeed POINTING HIS FINGER AT THE KENNEDY ADMINISTRATION by saying we were running a Murder, Inc. down in the Carribean and he was doing it as a DIVERSIONARY TACTIC to cast blame away from him and what HE LBJ did both in regards to the JFK Assassination and what he did on the foreign policy front. Just like Lyndon Johnson was using DIVERSIONARY tactics when he told various folks over the years that JFK was assassinated by Castro, the Vietnamese, or the CIA. LBJ told Madeleine Brown that the CIA and Texas oil leaders assassinated John Kennedy. LBJ was right about that last one EXCEPT that he noticeabley and incorrectly left himself out. Lyndon Johnson was running Murder, Inc. down in Texas:

http://home.earthlink.net/~sixthfloor/estes.htm

LETTER #2 - FROM DOUGLAS CADDY (lawyer for Billie Sol Estes)

August 9, 1984

Mr. Stephen S. Trott

Assistant Attorney General, Criminal Division

U.S. Department of Justice

Washington, D. C. 20530

RE: Mr. Billie Sol Estes

Dear Mr. Trott:

My client, Mr. Estes, has authorized me to make this reply to your letter of May 29, 1984. Mr. Estes was a member of a four-member group, headed by Lyndon Johnson, which committed criminal acts in Texas in the 1960's. The other two, besides Mr. Estes and LBJ, were Cliff Carter and Mac Wallace. Mr. Estes is willing to disclose his knowledge concerning the following criminal offenses:

I. Murders

1. The killing of Henry Marshall

2. The killing of George Krutilek

3. The killing of Ike Rogers and his secretary

4. The killing of Harold Orr

5. The killing of Coleman Wade

6. The killing of Josefa Johnson

7. The killing of John Kinser

8. The killing of President J. F. Kennedy.

Mr. Estes is willing to testify that LBJ ordered these killings, and that he transmitted his orders through Cliff Carter to Mac Wallace, who executed the murders. In the cases of murders nos. 1-7, Mr. Estes' knowledge of the precise details concerning the way the murders were executed stems from conversations he had shortly after each event with Cliff Carter and Mac Wallace.

In addition, a short time after Mr. Estes was released from prison in 1971, he met with Cliff Carter and they reminisced about what had occurred in the past, including the murders. During their conversation, Carter orally compiled a list of 17 murders which had been committed, some of which Mr. Estes was unfamiliar. A living witness was present at that meeting and should be willing to testify about it. He is Kyle Brown, recently of Houston and now living in Brady, Texas.

Mr. Estes, states that Mac Wallace, whom he describes as a "stone killer" with a communist background, recruited Jack Ruby, who in turn recruited Lee Harvey Oswald. Mr. Estes says that Cliff Carter told him that Mac Wallace fired a shot from the grassy knoll in Dallas, which hit JFK from the front during the assassination.

[The letter continues …]

Sincerely yours,

Douglas Caddy

I did not write "Kennedy Administration". That just goes to show how determined you are to fantasize about LBJ as the mastermind.

And by the way Lyndon Johnson was part of the Kennedy Administration.

Edited September 17, 2010 by Terry Mauro