The Two Oswald Phenomena Explained

[Greg Parker]

As usual Parker, you're wrong.

These are all from the WCR Donabedian Exhibit #1

It is your job now to prove that the treatments he rec'd from Sept 16 thru Sept 29th were performed in transit or at the base in Taiwan since he was not in Atsugi at the EAST CAMP between Sept 14th and Oct 5th.

Did the ship's med records and Taiwan use "EAST CAMP MACS-1" forms?

All you need do now is offer something to PROVE IT.

Oh, and why does it say he was in the hospital in Atsugi from Oct 7 to the 13th yet the Med records show no such thing?

East Camp would be like giving a home address.

The bottom line is that what you posted INITIALLY only showed clinic visits BEFORE and AFTER the trip to Ping Tung.

What has been posted since shows visits for the SAME problem in between his leaving and returning. In short, he needed ongoing treatment during the trip away, and he received it.

Or are you claiming NOW that what you posted originally pertained to one (Harvey or Lee - take your pick) and what was posted by Steve pertains to the OTHER?

Are you seriously claiming that both the historical Lee Harvey Oswald and the entirely mythical Harvey Henry Lee Osvaldovich BOTH needed treatment for gonorrhea?

I don't need to PROVE what is just common sense and logical inferences to draw from the records provided.

[Steven Gaal]

http://harveyandlee.net/Marines/Marines.html

I want to stress the importance of LEE Oswald's repeated visits to the Atsugi Station Hospital from September 16 through October 6. These visits are significant because during this time HARVEY Oswald was no longer selling shoes in Ft. Worth. HARVEY was beginning the process of assuming the identity of LEE Oswald, which began aboard the USS Skagit en route to Taiwan. Marine Corps Unit Diary 151-58 (744) shows that (HARVEY) Oswald departed with this unit en route to Taiwan on September 14. One member of this unit was William K. Trail, who accompanied HARVEY Oswald and later served with him at MACS 9 in Santa Ana, California. HARVEY Oswald arrived in Taiwan on September 30 and was soon observed by Lt. John Donovan taking photos of troop deployments, fighter aircraft, ammunition bunkers and F-86 aircraft. Lt. Donovan would later become HARVEY Oswald's immediate superior at MACS 9 in Santa Ana, CA. The thought occurred to me that Oswald may have been taking these photos in preparation for his upcoming "defection" to the Soviet Union. This may or may not have been the reason he took the photos, but after President Kennedy's assassination many of these photos, taken in Taiwan by HARVEY Oswald, were found among his possessions by the Dallas Police. On the evening of October 4, Lt. Charles Rhodes heard four or five rifle shots coming from the direction of the position that Oswald was guarding. Rhodes ran toward Oswald and found him slumped against a tree, shaking, and crying while holding his rifle. He kept saying that he just couldn't bear to be on guard duty. Rhodes reported the incident to his commanding officer and two days later Oswald was sent on an 800 mile trip back to Japan. Marine Corps Unit Diary 158-58 lists Oswald in Ping Tung, Taiwan on October 6.

HARVEY Oswald Departed for Taiwan Aboard the
USS Skagit (AKA 105) on Sept. 14, 1958.
Note "AKA 105" Under "Record of Events" near top left above
Unit Diary shows HARVEY Oswald was
in Ping Tung, Taiwan, on Oct. 6, 1958

With HARVEY Oswald aboard, the USS Skagit departed
Yokosuka, Japan bound for Taiwan on Sept. 14, 1958

Following his "defection" to the Soviet Union, HARVEY Oswald discussed his assignment in Taiwan with reporter Priscilla Johnson, who wrote news articles about Oswald and his "defection." A naval message of November 4, 1959 reported that Oswald served with Marine Air Control Squadrons in Taiwan. In 1964 The Warren Commission received a memorandum from the Assistant General Counsel for the Department of Defense that stated Oswald had been stationed in Ping Tung, Taiwan.

Naval Intel Memo

A Naval Message Dated November 4, 1959, also Confirms
HARVEY Oswald was Stationed in Taiwan.

From September 14 through October 6 HARVEY Oswald was in Taiwan. At the same time, from September 16 through October 6, LEE Oswald was in Japan. Medical records for NAS Navy 3835 (Naval Hospital) show numerous medical entries for LEE Oswald recorded on Sept 16, 20, 22, 23, 29, and Oct 6.. HARVEY Oswald's assignment in Taiwan, while LEE Oswald made numerous visits to the Naval Hospital, is a very important "smoking gun."

While HARVEY Oswald was in Taiwan, LEE Oswald was being treated for a Venereal
Disease in Atsugi, Japan, more than One Thousand Four Hundred Miles Away.

Following his return to Japan on October 6, 1958 HARVEY Oswald was temporarily assigned to a Marine Squadron at Iwakuni, a Marine air base 400 miles southwest of Tokyo. Owen Dejanovich, who first met HARVEY Oswald at radar school in Biloxi spent time with him at Iwakuni. Dejanovich thought that Oswald had grown bitter toward the Marines and recalled seeing him occasionally talking to a Eurasian girl. The following day, October 7, 1958, LEE Oswald was admitted to the Naval hospital in Atsugi and on October 10 he had a colon examination for rectal bleeding. LEE was discharged from the hospital on October 13, but returned on October 16th and 27th to have vaccinations that were required before returning to the US. In other words, while HARVEY was at Iwakuni, LEE was at the Naval hospital in Atsugi.

After HARVEY Oswald departed Iwakuni he returned to the United States and was assigned to the Marine Corps Air Facility--MACS 9--near the city of Santa Ana, California (HARVEY was always assigned to Sana Ana, CA; LEE was always assigned to El Toro, CA). HARVEY worked in a radar bubble with Sergeant Nelson Delgado, 5 enlisted men, and 3 officers. Sergeant Erwin Lewis remembered that Oswald transferred to MACS 9 in either October or November, 1958. Lewis said, "It was a matter of common knowledge that Oswald could read, write, and speak Russian. Marine Corps medical records confirm that HARVEY Oswald was at the Marine Corps Air Facility in Santa Ana, CA on October 29. But on October 29 LEE Oswald was still in Japan. Four days later, on November 2, LEE Oswald boarded the USS Barrett in Yokoska, Japan for a 13-day voyage to San Francisco. Marine corps medical records that show HARVEY Oswald was in California on October 29, 1958, while military records that show that LEE Oswald was in Japan and departed on November 2, 1958--an obvious "smoking gun."

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Medical records for NAS Navy 3835 (Naval Hospital)

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I found that NAS NAVY 3835 is in Japan (GAAL)

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http://www.newspapers.com/newspage/3277036/
June 4, 1953
Mt. Vernon Register-News from Mt Vernon, Illinois · Page 1

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Pfc. Charles E. Davis of the U. S. Marine Corps, has returned to Japan after a 45-day leave in Mt. Vernon visiting his parents, Mr. and Mrs. Harold Davis of RFD 1. Charles Davis He was stationed at Treasure Island in California for a month before going back to Japan. Pfc. Davis regnlisted for six years. He has served in the Far East for 23 months. He will be serving with a Military Police Co. in Japan. His address is: Pfc. Charles E. M. B., N. A. S. Navy 3835, c/o Davis, 1159222, U. S. M. C, F. P. O., San Francisco, Calif. * * *

Edited April 25, 2015 by Steven Gaal

[Steven Gaal]

http://harveyandlee.net/Marines/Marines.html

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A Naval Message Dated November 4, 1959, also Confirms
HARVEY Oswald was Stationed in Taiwan.

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From September 14 through October 6 HARVEY Oswald was in Taiwan

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At the same time, from September 16 through October 6, LEE Oswald was in Japan. Medical records for NAS Navy 3835 (Naval Hospital) {JAPAN} show numerous medical entries for LEE Oswald recorded on Sept 16, 20, 22, 23, 29, and Oct 6..
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HARVEY Oswald Departed for Taiwan Aboard the
USS Skagit (AKA 105) on Sept. 14, 1958. TREATED IN JAPAN SEPT 16th
Note "AKA 105" Under "Record of Events" near top left above
TREATED IN JAPAN SEPT 20
TREATED IN JAPAN SEPT 22
TREATED IN JAPAN SEPT 23
TREATED IN JAPAN SEPT 29th
TREATED IN JAPAN SEPT 30th (HARVEY Oswald arrived in Taiwan SEPT 30th)

One member of this unit was William K. Trail, who accompanied HARVEY Oswald and later served with him at MACS 9 in Santa Ana, California. HARVEY Oswald arrived in Taiwan on September 30. and was soon observed by Lt. John Donovan taking photos of troop deployments, fighter aircraft, ammunition bunkers and F-86 aircraft. Lt. Donovan would later become HARVEY Oswald's immediate superior at MACS 9 in Santa Ana, CA. The thought occurred to me that Oswald may have been taking these photos in preparation for his upcoming "defection" to the Soviet Union. This may or may not have been the reason he took the photos, but after President Kennedy's assassination many of these photos, taken in Taiwan by HARVEY Oswald, were found among his possessions by the Dallas Police. On the evening of October 4, Lt. Charles Rhodes heard four or five rifle shots coming from the direction of the position that Oswald was guarding. Rhodes ran toward Oswald and found him slumped against a tree, shaking, and crying while holding his rifle. He kept saying that he just couldn't bear to be on guard duty. Rhodes reported the incident to his commanding officer and two days later Oswald was sent on an 800 mile trip back to Japan. Marine Corps Unit Diary 158-58 lists Oswald in Ping Tung, Taiwan on October 6.

[sent back to JAPAN from ABOVE OCT 5th]

Unit Diary shows HARVEY Oswald was TREATED IN JAPAN OCT 6th
in Ping Tung, Taiwan, on Oct. 6, 1958

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Medical records for NAS Navy 3835 (Naval Hospital) = number means JAPAN (GAAL)

Edited April 25, 2015 by Steven Gaal

[Greg Parker]

[sent back to JAPAN from ABOVE OCT 6th]

Unit Diary shows HARVEY Oswald was TREATED IN JAPAN OCT 6th

in Ping Tung, Taiwan, on Oct. 6, 1958

Once again - no it doesn't. It shows he arrived back on Oct 5.

http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh23/html/WH_Vol23_0415a.htm

This whole premise of Armstrong's hinges on NAS Navy 3835 being a Naval Hospital with the 3835 being the code for Japan. Since this assertion is the critical one, it's about time I asked you to pony up with a citation on that. Got one?

[Steven Gaal]

This whole premise of Armstrong's hinges on NAS Navy 3835 being a Naval Hospital with the 3835 being the code for Japan. Since this assertion is the critical one, it's about time I asked you to pony up with a citation on that. Got one? // Parker (GAAL PREVIOUS POST had answer also EDIT of POST above SENT back Japan Oct 5th)

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found that NAS NAVY 3835 is in Japan (GAAL)

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http://www.newspaper...wspage/3277036/
June 4, 1953
Mt. Vernon Register-News from Mt Vernon, Illinois · Page 1

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Pfc. Charles E. Davis of the U. S. Marine Corps, has returned to Japan after a 45-day leave in Mt. Vernon visiting his parents, Mr. and Mrs. Harold Davis of RFD 1. Charles Davis He was stationed at Treasure Island in California for a month before going back to Japan. Pfc. Davis regnlisted for six years. He has served in the Far East for 23 months. He will be serving with a Military Police Co. in Japan. His address is: Pfc. Charles E. M. B., N. A. S. Navy 3835, c/o Davis, 1159222, U. S. M. C, F. P. O., San Francisco, Calif. * * *

. He will be serving with a Military Police Co. in Japan. . His address N. A. S. Navy 3835 ( = JAPAN )

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Navy 3835 ATSUGI Japan 1962 Naval Cover 17008 BR NAS

www.ebay.com › Stamps › United States › Covers › Postal History

eBay

NAVY # 3835 ATSUGI, JAPAN 1962 Naval Cover 17008 Br NAS. It was canceled "17008 Br" 3 Apr 1962. It was sent from AG Mullin to IRS in Asheville, NC.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NAVY-3835-ATSUGI-JAPAN-1962-Naval-Cover-17008-Br-NAS-/231094956196

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TREATED IN JAPAN SEPT 16th officially on boat CONTRADICTION
TREATED IN JAPAN SEPT 20 officially on boat CONTRADICTION
TREATED IN JAPAN SEPT 22 officially on boat CONTRADICTION
TREATED IN JAPAN SEPT 23 officially on boat CONTRADICTION
TREATED IN JAPAN SEPT 29th officially on boat CONTRADICTION
TREATED IN JAPAN SEPT 30th officially arrived in Taiwan SEPT 30th CONTRADICTION

Edited April 25, 2015 by Steven Gaal

[Greg Parker]

His address is: Pfc. Charles E. M. B., N. A. S. Navy 3835, c/o Davis, 1159222, U. S. M. C, F. P. O., San Francisco, Calif. * * *

14086273 INT 2113496 NEUMANN CAROLE A NAVY 3835 BX 15SAN FRANCISCO CA 94101- Other 80.98 MASSACHUSETTS COMMONWEALTH OF

http://ca-lost-money.org/data/NAVY+3835+BX+15SAN+FRANCISCO+CA+94101-/NEUMANN+CAROLE+A/6765094.html

According to this records, NAS 3835 was MACS-1

ADMISSION TIME: 2300 10-27-57

FROM: USNAS, NAVY #3835 ( MACS-1) AUTH: HOOD

X MR/DR ACT.NOTIF.EMER. YES

http://spot.acorn.net/jfkplace/03/MS/mil.html

His address is: Lloyd A. Walling, Navy 3835, Box 17, care of the fleet post office, San Francisco, Calif.

http://www.newspapers.com/newspage/41225691/

Once again, Armstrong has played the flute and you have all dutifully followed him over the cliff.

[Steven Gaal]

FROM: USNAS, NAVY #3835 ( MCAS-1) AUTH: HOOD
X MR/DR ACT.NOTIF.EMER. YES
HOW PATIENT ARRIVED: AMB VIA OTHER/SICK CALL
OFFICER S PR LOCATION: NO LIBERTY CARD DEPENDENTS: NONE
ADMISSION DIAGNOSIS:
1. Within Command-Not Work
2. Patient dropped firearm to the floor and it fired, missile struck patient
in the left arm.
WOUND, MISSILE,UPPER LEFT ARM,NO A OR N INVOLVEMENT (8355)

FT 10-27-57
W/M, UPPER LT. ARM #8255 237 D[ischarged] NOV. 15, 1957
10-27-57 USNH NAVY 3923
J-82094 Wd. 5-A
U.S. NAVAL HOSPITAL, NAV. No. 3923
FT 27 OCT 57 DIAGNOSIS: WOUND, MISSILE, UPPER LEFT ARM
GUNSHOT, NO A OR N INVOLVEMENT #8255
1. Within command - work
2. Patient dropped 45 caliber automatic, pistol
discharged when it struck the floor, and missile
struck patient in left arm causing the injury.
NARRATIVE SUMMARY:
This 18 year male acidentally shot himself in the left arm
with a sidearm, reportedly of 22 caliber. Examination
revealed the wound of entrance in the medial portion of
the left upper arm, just above the elbow. There was no
evidence of neurologic circulatory, or bony injury. The
wound of entrance was allowed to heal and the missile
was then excised through a separate incision two inches
above the wound of entry. The missile appeared to be a
22 slug. The wound healed well and the patient was
discharged to duty.
SURG: 10-5-57: FOREIGN BODY, REMOVAL OF, FROM
EXTREMITIES, LEFT UPPER ARM #826.

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FROM: USNAS, NAVY #3835 ( MCAS-1) AUTH: HOOD ( Message sent from #3835 = JAPAN GAAL)

treated below

U.S. NAVAL HOSPITAL, NAV. No. 3923

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Edited April 25, 2015 by Steven Gaal

[Greg Parker]

FROM: USNAS, NAVY #3835 ( MCAS-1) AUTH: HOOD

X MR/DR ACT.NOTIF.EMER. YES

HOW PATIENT ARRIVED: AMB VIA OTHER/SICK CALL

OFFICER S PR LOCATION: NO LIBERTY CARD DEPENDENTS: NONE

ADMISSION DIAGNOSIS:

1. Within Command-Not Work

2. Patient dropped firearm to the floor and it fired, missile struck patient

in the left arm.

WOUND, MISSILE,UPPER LEFT ARM,NO A OR N INVOLVEMENT (8355)

FT 10-27-57

W/M, UPPER LT. ARM #8255 237 D[ischarged] NOV. 15, 1957

10-27-57 USNH NAVY 3923

J-82094 Wd. 5-A

U.S. NAVAL HOSPITAL, NAV. No. 3923

FT 27 OCT 57 DIAGNOSIS: WOUND, MISSILE, UPPER LEFT ARM

GUNSHOT, NO A OR N INVOLVEMENT #8255

1. Within command - work

2. Patient dropped 45 caliber automatic, pistol

discharged when it struck the floor, and missile

struck patient in left arm causing the injury.

NARRATIVE SUMMARY:

This 18 year male acidentally shot himself in the left arm

with a sidearm, reportedly of 22 caliber. Examination

revealed the wound of entrance in the medial portion of

the left upper arm, just above the elbow. There was no

evidence of neurologic circulatory, or bony injury. The

wound of entrance was allowed to heal and the missile

was then excised through a separate incision two inches

above the wound of entry. The missile appeared to be a

22 slug. The wound healed well and the patient was

discharged to duty.

SURG: 10-5-57: FOREIGN BODY, REMOVAL OF, FROM

EXTREMITIES, LEFT UPPER ARM #826.

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FROM: USNAS, NAVY #3835 ( MCAS-1) AUTH: HOOD Message sent from #3835 = JAPAN

treated below

U.S. NAVAL HOSPITAL, NAV. No. 3923

You're kidding?

It seems to me NAS 3835 was wherever MACS-1 was stationed. All that record is saying is the patient was with MACS 1.

But according to you all those people with address of NAS 3835 in San Fran were actually in hospital in Japan????

Here's another showing it in SF

The history of the Chaplain Corps, United States Navy

https://books.google.com.au/books?id=JruCxPowym4C

United States. Bureau of Naval Personnel, ‎Clifford Merrill Drury - 1957 - ‎Snippet view - ‎More editions

Comm, LTJG, CHC, USNR, 22 Oct 1952; CS, 1-53; NAS #3835, FPO, SF, Apr 53-May 55; USS PRINCETON, FPO, SF, May-Jun; NTC, Bainbridge, Md, Jun-; RAD Jul 56; 4th ND. LAMPE, Joseph Heydon-PRESBY (USA) 296578 B, Syenchum, ...

Fair dinkum. how do you blokes even survive.

[Steven Gaal]

12Sep 57
MACS-1 MAG-11 1stMAW FMF C/O FPO [Fleet Post Office], SFRAN
Reason: JD Primary Duty: AvnElectOper

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

c/o Fleet Post Office in SF

(# 3835 Japan GAAL)

see your example

Apr 53-May 55; USS PRINCETON, FPO, SF (LETTER TO FLEET POST OFFICE in SF THEN TO USS PRINCETON ,GAAL)

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Navy Numbers (FPO) World War II to disguise mail addresses

www.patriotfiles.com/index.php?name=Sections&req...artid...1

NAVY NUMBERS Number ... (Navy Depot) 26 NY Ivigtut, Greenland (Nav Sta--later, Advance Base) ... 93 NY Bizerte, Tunisia (U.S. Naval Installation--later Amphibious Training Base) 94 NY Tunis .... ?610 NY Londonderry, Ireland (U.S. Naval Base Hospital #1) ?611 SF ..... 3923 SF Yokosuku, Honshu, Japan 3924 SF ...

Edited April 25, 2015 by Steven Gaal

[Greg Parker]

12Sep 57

MACS-1 MAG-11 1stMAW FMF C/O FPO [Fleet Post Office], SFRAN

Reason: JD Primary Duty: AvnElectOper

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

c/o Fleet Post Office in SF

(# 3835 Japan GAAL)

see your example

Apr 53-May 55; USS PRINCETON, FPO, SF (LETTER TO FLEET POST OFFICE in SF THEN TO USS PRINCETON ,GAAL)

Well, gee, Steve... anyone can insert whatever they want into data dumps from the internet.

You're flailing in the dark. All Oswald's records show was that he was treated for a continuous period of time during Sept and Oct 1958 for gonorrhea while he was with MACS-1. End of story.

Armstrong's interpretation, which you cling to like a limpid, is now debunked.

Hint: what you need is a USMC or Navy record which actually states unambiguously that 3835 is code for Japan. Did you even know what NAS stands for? It doesn't look like you did. It stands for Naval Air Station. There is nothing in NAS 3865 to even hint that it has anything to do with any hospitals.

Second hint. Take your time looking for the PROOF. It should keep you busy for many many years since it doesn't exist.

[David Josephs]

The records are of the one man who stayed in Atsugi. Harvey goes to Taiwan.

Keep trying Parker. Maybe one day you will understand but I highly doubt it.

Reading the book is a start but why have facts get in the way of your opinions...

Cue rant....

[Larry Hancock]

David, just to understand...are you saying the Marines had two personnel stationed in Japan, both named Lee Harvey Oswald - and that one went to Taiwan while one stayed

at Atsuki and both had active medical records at the same time under the same name? Or does Harvey have records under a different name?

And yes I have read John's book and listened to him present many times but that was not my impression of what he was saying....just trying to make sure I'm following you.

[Steven Gaal]

see

http://philatelyclub.com/category/372-stamps_united_states_covers_postal_history_/page_7.html

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Navy 3835 Atsugi, Japan 1962 Naval Cover 17008 Br Nas photo
Navy 3835 Atsugi, Japan 1962 Naval Cover 17008 Br Nas
1 photo

Navy 3912 Sasebo, Kyushu, Japan 1951 Naval Cover 13757 Br Korean War photo
Navy 3912 Sasebo, Kyushu, Japan 1951 Naval Cover 13757 Br Korean War
1 photo

Navy 525 Exeter, Devonshire, England 1944 Wwii Naval Cover Amphibious photo
Navy 525 Exeter, Devonshire, England 1944 Wwii Naval Cover Amphibious
1 photo

Navy 3964 Tacloban, Leyte, Philippines 1945 Wwii Naval Cover photo
Navy 3964 Tacloban, Leyte, Philippines 1945 Wwii Naval Cover
1 photo

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Served on the following ships: USS LST-802; USS ETLAH (AN-79); USS DURANT (DER-389); USS CHARLES BERRY (DE-1035); USS VANCE (DER-387); USS MCMORRIS (DE-1036); Served at the following Stations: NAVY 3923, Yokosuka, Japan; NAVY 3916, Inchon, Korea; NAVSTA Long Beach Service Craft; NAS North Island NAVALAIRMAINTTRAGRU; NAVINACTSHIPMAINTFAC San Diego.
ENCS Duane Baumgartner USN-RET <DuaneBaumgartner@2juno.com>
Gold Hill, OR USA - Tuesday, April 16, 2002 at 16:38:21 (CDT)

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To summarize GAAL

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NAVY 3932 Yokosuka Japan

Navy 3964 Tacloban, Leyte, Philippines

Navy 525 Exeter, Devonshire, England

Navy 3912 Sasebo, Kyushu

and of course

Navy 3835 Atsugi, Japan 1962

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the NAVY will send the letters to the right person

Fred Gailey: Your Honor, every one of these letters is addressed to Santa Claus. The Post Office has delivered them. Therefore the Post Office Department, a branch of the Federal Governent, recognizes this man Kris Kringle to be the one and only Santa Claus.

Judge Henry X. Harper: Uh, since the United States Government declares this man to be Santa Claus, this court will not dispute it. Case dismissed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dz2YgjSA8Dg

Edited April 26, 2015 by Steven Gaal

[Guest Mark Valenti]

A prospective employer once did a background check on me, and my high school indicated that I had graduated two years later than I really did. It was nothing more than a paperwork error, they cited a student with the same last name.

But I suppose that means I have a doppleganger because how could I have graduated two different times, right?

[Steven Gaal]

A prospective employer once did a background check on me, and my high school indicated that I had graduated two years later than I really did. It was nothing more than a paperwork error, they cited a student with the same last name.

But I suppose that means I have a doppleganger because how could I have graduated two different times, right? // VALENTI

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Professor Jerry Rose of Decade Journal fame said that after much study he found problems with every ( EVERY,GAAL) major record of LHO. (EVERY MAJOR RECORD (not just one) GAAL)

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TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY, LICENSE RECORDS

On February 14, 1968, Aletha Frair made the following signed statement to Garrison investigator Gary Sanders:

OFFICE OF THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY

STATE OF LOUISIANA

PARISH OF ORLEANS

S T A T E M E N T

DATE: February 14, 1968

STATEMENT OF: ALETHA FRAIR

RESIDING AT: 8001 Benson
New Orleans, LA
Phone - 242-2126

My name is ALETHA FRAIR (MRS. JOHN FRAIR). I live at:

8001 Benson
New Orleans, La.
Phone - 242-2126

I worked for the Department of Public Safety in Austin, Texas from the early part of October 1963, through the early part of December 1963. While I was employed at the Department of Public Safety I worked in the License Records Department. This Dept. Was responsible for the IBM computer records of all driver's licenses in the state of Texas.

My husband, JOHN, was working for the United Press International during November of 1963 and on November 22, 1963 he was in Uvalde, Texas, covering the birthday of ex-Vice President JOHN NANCE GARNER.

I did not go to work on the 22 of November, 1963, but the following event occured (sic) the week after the assassination of President KENNEDY.

During the week following the murder of LEE HARVEY OSWALD, on either Wednesday the 27th, or Tuesday the 28th of November, 1963 the Texas driver's license issued to LEE HARVEY OSWALD came into my division.

The record (IBM card) on OSWALD was pulled from the files. Several other employees (5 or 6) of the Department saw the driver's license which was dirty and worn as though it had been carried in a billfold. The license was the talk of the office that day since everyone knew who OSWALD was, and the reason his driver's license records were being pulled from the active file was the fact that he had been killed.

In October of 1966 my husband and I moved to New Orleans and in June of 1967 my husband went to work for WWL-TV, Channel 4.

I, ALETHA FRAIR, hereby affirm that all of the above statement is true to the best of my knowledge.

Signed February 14, 1968.

(Signature of Aletha Frair)

(Signature of witness Gary Sanders)
(Signature of witness Jody Duek)

See the documents discussed above.

In a cover memo accompanying the typed statement, Garrison investigator Gary Sanders gave the names of six women, several still employed at the Texas Department of Public Safety, who would confirm Aletha Frair's statement.