The Discharge Of Lee Harvey Oswald And Other Related Issues

[Paul Trejo]

5 hours ago, Alistair Briggs said:

 ...I'm currently making my way through the WC testimony of those he was in the Marines with,..

... just as an aside, I wonder what it must have been like for the people that previously had known Oswald - what their thoughts would have been. Would the ones that liked him be biased towards him, the ones that disliked him be biased against him... probably.

Regards

Alistair,

The WC testimony of the US Marines is damned interesting reading.   The wide variety of personalities selected is fun to read.  Most of all, I liked the WC testimony of Kerry Thornley.   It was the most incisive.

What did the Marines think when LHO was accused of killing JFK and then gunned down before he had a chance to go to trial?

Some of them gave opinions.   Only a few knew him well, apparently, because LHO spent most of his time reading and studying Russian there at El Toro base.

Nelson Delgado knew LHO fairly well -- because they both favored Fidel Castro in the late 1950's, and LHO wanted to learn to speak Spanish to go to Cuba and help Fidel Castro.   Delgado, who spoke Spanish fluently, helped LHO study at the start of 1959.   But LHO didn't finish his Spanish studies, but quickly moved on to Russian studies.

Delgado was stunned by this move -- why?   Delgado thought it was something he said -- namely, that to really help Castro you've got to contact the Cuban Embassy in Los Angeles.  Delgado was sure that LHO did contact the Cuban Embassy, and that the Cuban Embassy sent him materials in the mail. 

Then some mysterious person wearing an expensive suit visited LHO -- as Delgado remembers it -- and then LHO hardly spoke with Delgado anymore.   LHO started studying Russian by using books and records, and kept to himself most of his free time.   But LHO always went to work in the radar office, and always did a good job, and no important officers ever complained about LHO.   They liked his work, and they trusted him -- so Delgado just went his separate way.

IIRC, Delgado believed, ultimately, that the Cuban Embassy turned LHO toward their politics, and therefore the USSR killed JFK and used LHO in some way.

Kerry Thornley's WC testimony is the most colorful, IMHO.  LHO comes off as a "Beetle Baily" type, though having strong opinions about politics, religion and philosophy.   Thornely thought LHO was showing off with all his Berlitz courses in Russian, and Russian magazines around his bunk.   Thornley also recognized that LHO was self-taught -- with all the negatives that go with that positive.   For Thornley, IIRC, LHO wasn't the assassination type.

Regards,
--Paul Trejo

Edited March 10, 2017 by Paul Trejo

[Alistair Briggs]

2 hours ago, Paul Trejo said:

The WC testimony of the US Marines is damned interesting reading.   The wide variety of personalities selected is fun to read.  Most of all, I liked the WC testimony of Kerry Thornley.   It was the most incisive.

I've not got round to Thornley yet, but will read that one next...

... I was just reading Nelson Delgado and came across another couple of books that Oswald is said to have read (I am trying to compile a 'full' list) - Mein Kampf and Animal Farm.

The part about Animal Farm I found to be somewhat amusing (I have a strange sense of humour sometimes ); because it almost becomes Delgado questioning Liebler. lol

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Mr. DELGADO - Yes; and then he had this other book. I am still trying to find out what it is. It's about a farm, and about how all the animals take over and make the farmer work for them. It's really a weird book, the way he was explaining it to me, and that struck me kind of funny. But he told me that the farmer represented the imperialistic world, and the animals were the workers, symbolizing that they are the socialist people, you know, and that eventually it will come about that the socialists will have the imperialists working for them, and things like that, like these animals, these pigs took over and they were running the whole farm and the farmer was working for them.
Mr. LIEBELER - Is that what Oswald explained to you?
Mr. DELGADO - Yes.
Mr. LIEBELER - Did you tell the FBI about this?
Mr. DELGADO - Yes.
Mr. LIEBELER - Did they know the name of the book?
Mr. DELGADO - No.
Mr. LIEBELER - The FBI did not know the name of the book?
Mr. DELGADO - No.
Mr. LIEBELER - Do you want to know the name of the book?
Mr. DELGADO - Yes.
Mr. LIEBELER - It is called the Animal Farm. It is by George Orwell.
Mr. DELGADO - He didn't tell me. I asked him for the thing, but he wouldn't tell me. I guess he didn't know. The Animal Farm. Did you read it?
Mr. LIEBELER - Yes.
Mr. DELGADO - Is it really like that?
Mr. LIEBELER - Yes; there is only one thing that Oswald did not mention apparently and that is that the pigs took over the farm, and then they got to be just like the capitalists were before, they got fighting among themselves, and there was one big pig who did just the same thing that the capitalist had done before. Didn't Oswald tell you about that?
Mr. DELGADO - No; just that the pigs and animals had revolted and made the farmer work for them. The Animal Farm. Is that a socialist book?
Mr. LIEBELER - No.
Mr. DELGADO - That is just the way you interpret it; right?
Mr. LIEBELER - Yes; I think so. It is actually supposed to be quite an anti-Communist book.
Mr. DELGADO - Is it really?
Mr. LIEBELER - Yes.

From the affidavit of Richard Dennis Call;

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Another Marine from California, who at that time was interested in Zen Buddhism, had an idol of Buddha solely for the purpose of making Delgado angry. He succeeded in this attempt. Oswald enjoyed this successful attempt to anger Delgado

I wonder who the other Marine was that did that... sounds like they all enjoyed a good bit of banter amongst them...

*I'm not really making any point with the above comment btw...

anyway, think I will go read Thornley now.

Regards

[Paul Trejo]

20 hours ago, Alistair Briggs said:

I've not got round to Thornley yet, but will read that one next...

... I was just reading Nelson Delgado and came across another couple of books that Oswald is said to have read (I am trying to compile a 'full' list) - Mein Kampf and Animal Farm.

The part about Animal Farm I found to be somewhat amusing (I have a strange sense of humour sometimes ); because it almost becomes Delgado questioning Liebler. lol

From the affidavit of Richard Dennis Call;

I wonder who the other Marine was that did that... sounds like they all enjoyed a good bit of banter amongst them...

*I'm not really making any point with the above comment btw...

anyway, think I will go read Thornley now.

Regards

Alistair,

Your highlight of Orwell's Animal Farm (1945) in the context of the Warren Commission testimonies was a delight.

I think we may agree that the US Marines give us the most consistently endearing portrait of Lee Harvey Oswald than anybody else, including his wife, who at first loved him, and then was driven to fear him.

Lee Harvey Oswald was indeed a wide-ranging reader.   Marina, however, was more interested in his ability to care for a family with babies.

Regards,
--Paul Trejo

Edited March 11, 2017 by Paul Trejo

[Alistair Briggs]

1 hour ago, Paul Trejo said:

Your highlight of Orwell's Animal Farm (1945) in the context of the Warren Commission testimonies was a delight.

Glad you liked it.

As a slight aside, I mentioned earlier that I hadn't heard the word 'scuttlebutt' before and had to Google it to find out what it meant. I must also confess that I had to Google 'Beetle-Bailey' to understand that reference - it put cartoons in my mind, and then, whilst reading the testimony of Thornley, I came across this line...

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My first memory of him is that one afternoon he was sitting on a bucket out in front of a hut, an inverted bucket, with some other Marines.

and it made me think of a Scottish cartoon called 'Oor Wullie' who often sat in an inverted bucket...

Anyway,

1 hour ago, Paul Trejo said:

I think we may agree that the US Marines give us the most consistently endearing portrait of Lee Harvey Oswald than anybody else...

Yep I concur. I also find them to be honest and unbiased towards Oswald.

1 hour ago, Paul Trejo said:

... including his wife, who at first loved him, and then was driven to fear him.

Lee Harvey Oswald was indeed a wide-ranging reader.   Marina, however, was more interested in his ability to care for a family with babies.

Not the worst thing to be interested in though... Under different circumstances, I feel that things could have worked out a lot better in their marriage. If Lee's intelligence was put to good use he may have found himself a job that would have seen him rise in position to a point of making enough money to be able to have a more comfortable home life, and yet he probably also had a mind-set based in 'frugality', a mind-set that 'rejected' materialistic attitudes...

 

[Paul Trejo]

4 hours ago, Alistair Briggs said:

...I had to Google 'Beetle-Bailey' to understand that reference - it put cartoons in my mind, and then, whilst reading the testimony of Thornley, I came across this line: "My first memory of him is that one afternoon he was sitting on a bucket out in front of a hut, an inverted bucket, with some other Marines," and it made me think of a Scottish cartoon called 'Oor Wullie' who often sat in an inverted bucket...

Anyway,

...Under different circumstances, I feel that things could have worked out a lot better in their marriage. If Lee's intelligence was put to good use he may have found himself a job that would have seen him rise in position to a point of making enough money to be able to have a more comfortable home life, and yet he probably also had a mind-set based in 'frugality', a mind-set that 'rejected' materialistic attitudes...

Alistair,

I loved the cartoon of Oor Wullie, especially in the context of LHO sitting on inverted buckets. It's interesting that y'all "down under" have your own cartoons, and we Yanks have ours, like "Beetle Bailey."

Anyway,

In the long story, I'm disappointed in Lee Harvey Oswald.  Although I count him as innocent of the actual shooting of JFK, nevertheless, he moved with a bad crowd, and he behaved badly on multiple occasions.

His greatest fault was his neglect of his wife and babies.   That's basically unforgivable in almost every culture.   See, actually LHO did get a job that he really enjoyed, and that held great promise for his steady advancement and a possible career and certainly for the care of his family.  I'm speaking of the trainee position he got at Jaggars-Chiles-Stovall on October 12, 1962.

This was a six-month probationary period, and surely LHO was smart enough for the task.  But sadly, LHO kept up his "Beetle Bailey" attitude on the job, and he failed his six-month probation.  He was let go because he was sloppy with his work.

His boss was questioned by the WC, and he testified that LHO would be given a job to make a photographic reproduction with given proportions, and LHO would deliver the reproduction with different proportions.  Just careless.  So the work had to be re-done -- and this not only cost extra in materials, but also in the time wasted in doing work twice.  This happened with an unacceptable frequency. 

LHO also abused company equipment for personal use.  This was admitted by a co-worker at JCS as well.  It is widely accepted today that LHO made his Fake ID for Alek J. Hidell on the sophisticated photographic equipment of JCS.  (It is still less widely accepted that LHO made his Backyard Photographs on the same equipment).

All this reflects a carelessness at work that nobody would accept -- not even LHO himself if LHO was the supervisor.  So, LHO was let go -- and he didn't protest.

Unemployed again.   This increased the stress for LHO because he knew that Marina was pregnant.   Yet LHO had another secret plan, and Marina had seen part of it.  LHO had a scrap-book of photographs and plans that he collected of General Walker's house.  This included maps -- and something like an "advance reconnoiter" for a military or paramilitary attack. 

In other words -- LHO was playing spy.  This was in conjunction with George De Mohrenschildt and Volkmar Schmidt, who were continually running General Walker into the ground in the company of LHO.  (Maybe he had some fantasy that George and Volkmar would approve, and recommend him for a full-time job in the CIA.)

Anyway -- the loss of his job at JCS in early April 1963 also signaled the timing of LHO to try to murder General Walker.  It was this combination of events that finally broke Marina Oswald's heart.  She could not understand LHO anymore -- and finally.    If not for her painful poverty and desperate dependence on LHO, she would have left him.  

She gave Ruth Paine only part of the story.  Marina told Ruth Paine that LHO had been threatening to send her back to the USSR without him.  Ruth Paine testified to this.   That is, instead of beating Marina in his frustration for his own failures, LHO began threatening Marina with deportation.   

This showed the ultimate immaturity of LHO.   It's not just that LHO would have benefited from higher education -- I agree with that.  But it also seems that LHO got married too early in life, and began having children too early in life -- before he ever held a single steady job.

In many ways, LHO was like Beetle Bailey, who was so lazy.   But at least Beetle Bailey was wise enough not to start having kids before he was ready for the responsibility.

Regards,
--Paul Trejo

Edited March 12, 2017 by Paul Trejo

[Alistair Briggs]

4 hours ago, Paul Trejo said:

I loved the cartoon of Oor Wullie, especially in the context of LHO sitting on inverted buckets. It's interesting that y'all "down under" have your own cartoons, and we Yanks have ours, like "Beetle Bailey."

Btw, I'm not from 'down under' - I'm from Scotland.

4 hours ago, Paul Trejo said:

In the long story, I'm disappointed in Lee Harvey Oswald.  Although I count him as innocent of the actual shooting of JFK, nevertheless, he moved with a bad crowd, and he behaved badly on multiple occasions.

His greatest fault was his neglect of his wife and babies.   That's basically unforgivable in almost every culture.   See, actually LHO did get a job that he really enjoyed, and that held great promise for his steady advancement and a possible career and certainly for the care of his family.  I'm speaking of the trainee position he got at Jaggars-Chiles-Stovall on October 12, 1962.

This was a six-month probationary period, and surely LHO was smart enough for the task.  But sadly, LHO kept up his "Beetle Bailey" attitude on the job, and he failed his six-month probation.  He was let go because he was sloppy with his work.

I share the disappointment in Oswald. The moving with a bad crowd, the behaving badly, the 'neglect' of his wife and babies, the 'Beetle Bailey' attitude, I can almost put all of that down to a collectiveness of circumstances throughout his life,The instability of his childhood and through his formative years - the moving so often, the changing school so often, would not be helpful...

*From this article here;

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The researchers found that the more times people moved as children, the more likely they were to report lower life satisfaction and psychological well-being at the time they were surveyed, even when controlling for age, gender and education level. The research also showed that those who moved frequently as children had fewer quality social relationships as adults.

Anyway, just for the ease of any readers and ourselves, here are the links to the WC testimony of the 3 people from Jaggars-Chiles-Stovall - Robert Stovall (President), John Graef (Oswald's supervisor) and Dennis Hyman Ofstein (employee)

4 hours ago, Paul Trejo said:

All this reflects a carelessness at work that nobody would accept -- not even LHO himself if LHO was the supervisor.  So, LHO was let go -- and he didn't protest.

I wonder how difficult it would be for a person so used to moving about throughout their life to settle in to a job - would there come a time quite quickly when they feel their time is almost up, as if they have been pre-conditioned to not stay any place too long - would the job start to seem mundane and not challenging enough - talented enough to do the job and talented enough to rise up the pecking order, and yet probably a feeling that the work was not 'intelligent' enough for him... I wonder!

It is interesting to note, Paul, that you then mention the 'playing spy' and also mention the " fantasy that George and Volkmar would approve, and recommend him for a full-time job in the CIA ". I can imagine that that would appeal to Oswald's sensibilities, he probably saw himself as being a perfect fit for being a 'spy'.

Lots more that you have mentioned in your previous post that I will get round to addressing.

Regards

[Paul Trejo]

19 hours ago, Alistair Briggs said:

Btw, I'm not from 'down under' - I'm from Scotland.

I share the disappointment in Oswald. The moving with a bad crowd, the behaving badly, the 'neglect' of his wife and babies, the 'Beetle Bailey' attitude, I can almost put all of that down to a collectiveness of circumstances throughout his life,The instability of his childhood and through his formative years - the moving so often, the changing school so often, would not be helpful...

I wonder how difficult it would be for a person so used to moving about throughout their life to settle in to a job - would there come a time quite quickly when they feel their time is almost up, as if they have been pre-conditioned to not stay any place too long - would the job start to seem mundane and not challenging enough - talented enough to do the job and talented enough to rise up the pecking order, and yet probably a feeling that the work was not 'intelligent' enough for him... I wonder!

Regards

Alistair,

Aha, not down under, but Scotland.  Let's see now...the highland cows, the Scottish accent, bagpipes...um...Edinburgh, Stirling Bridge, Braveheart...um...the Loch Ness monster, Harry Potter, Saint Andrews Cathedral...um...Isle of Skye, Dundee nautical museum, men in kilts...um...shortbread, Scotch Whisky...I know I missing much...Sir Walter Scott, Robert Burns...Have I excused myself yet?

JFK researchers are fortunate to have had Jim Garrison dig deeper than anybody into New Orleans history to tell us about Guy Banister, David Ferrie, Jack S. Martin, Fred Crisman, Tommy Beckham and Clay Shaw.  This was a bad bunch.   Add the Cuban Exile mercenaries and their mercenary comrades like Interpen and La Sambra -- and future crooked cops like Roscoe White -- it's truly bad company.  Yet Jim Garrison proved it with that little address on LHO's FPCC flyers -- 544 Camp Street.

It was because of Jim Garrison's 1967 genius that the HSCA in 1977 was called in the first place.  (Sadly, they both overlooked General Walker.)

As for LHO's childhood conditioning -- yes, I like much of what you say about his many disadvantages.   We know so much about LHO from the WC testimony of his mother, his brothers, his aunt, uncle, cousins and his wife that we could form a psychoanalysis of LHO if we really wanted to.  

All the others who knew LHO among all the many hundreds of WC witnesses, only knew LHO for less than one year of his life.

Many of the LHO character witnesses only claimed to have seen him for one day in their lives or one hour -- or a few minutes -- and most of those cases were actually cases of mistaken identity, IMHO.  The WC was scraping the bottom of the barrel because they could not afford to go into New Orleans and risk the Truth -- that LHO was never a "Lone Nut" but always was surrounded by political outsiders like himself.

Regards,
--Paul Trejo

Edited March 13, 2017 by Paul Trejo

[Alistair Briggs]

18 hours ago, Paul Trejo said:

Aha, not down under, but Scotland.  Let's see now...the highland cows, the Scottish accent, bagpipes...um...Edinburgh, Stirling Bridge, Braveheart...um...the Loch Ness monster, Harry Potter, Saint Andrews Cathedral...um...Isle of Skye, Dundee nautical museum, men in kilts...um...shortbread, Scotch Whisky...I know I missing much...Sir Walter Scott, Robert Burns...Have I excused myself yet?

Ach aye, nae baw hair a' aw!
(translated: Oh yes, no bother at all)

lol

18 hours ago, Paul Trejo said:

JFK researchers are fortunate to have had Jim Garrison dig deeper than anybody into New Orleans history to tell us about Guy Banister, David Ferrie, Jack S. Martin, Fred Crisman, Tommy Beckham and Clay Shaw.  This was a bad bunch.   Add the Cuban Exile mercenaries and their mercenary comrades like Interpen and La Sambra -- and future crooked cops like Roscoe White -- it's truly bad company.  Yet Jim Garrison proved it with that little address on LHO's FPCC flyers -- 544 Camp Street.

Regarding the stamped address on the leaflets, not all of the 1,000 he ordered were stamped with that, some were stamped with his Magazine Street address, also some were stamped with the name of Hidell and the PO Box no. I don't know how many were stamped with each of those.. any ideas?

18 hours ago, Paul Trejo said:

The WC was scraping the bottom of the barrel because they could not afford to go into New Orleans and risk the Truth -- that LHO was never a "Lone Nut" but always was surrounded by political outsiders like himself.

Considering what your 'CT' consists of, how would New Orleans fit in to that?

Regards

Edited March 13, 2017 by Alistair Briggs

[Paul Trejo]

On 3/13/2017 at 4:49 PM, Alistair Briggs said:

Considering what your 'CT' consists of, how would New Orleans fit in to that?

Regards

Alistair,

According to Dr. Jeff Caufield, there was a material link between General Walker and Guy Banister.  They were both politicians -- believe it or not -- and both ran for public office in their respective States, on the segregation platform, that is, on their opposition to the Brown Decision (which was ironically ruled by Supreme Court Chief Justice Earl Warren). 

They both shared a favorite slogan from the John Birch Society, namely, "Impeach Earl Warren!"

They attended the same rallies for States Rights Parties and White Citizens Councils.  They shared friends in common, e.g. Kent & Phoebe Courtney, publishers of right-wing materials in the South.

Perhaps most urgently, both Guy Banister and General Walker were leaders of "Minutemen" chapters in their respective cities.   FBI agent James Hosty wrote in his book, Assignment Oswald (1996) that his main job for the FBI in Dallas was to track "General Walker and his Minutemen."  As for Guy Banister, his "Minutemen" were often seen training at the Camp near Lake Pontchartrain in Louisiana, led by David Ferrie. 

That said -- here is how I imagine their contract regarding Lee Harvey Oswald went down.   The date is Easter Sunday, 14 April 1963.   A phone conversation from General Walker to Guy Banister went something like this.

WALKER:  "Guy!  It's Ted.  I just heard from James Hosty that this Communist in Dallas's, you know the kid from Russia, Lee Harvey Oswald, was the one who tried to kill me last Wednesday."

BANISTER: "Oswald.  Hmm.  I was talking with Ferrie about Oswald last year.   Ferrie knows Oswald pretty well; he was in his CAP cadet squad some years ago."

WALKER:  "You don't say!  This gives me an idea."

BANISTER: "I bet I know what you're thinking.  Why don't we get David Ferrie to invite Oswald to New Orleans -- include him in our work down here, and give him enough rope to hang himself!"

WALKER:  "That's uncanny.  Just what I was thinking!"

BANISTER:  "Leave it to me, Ted.   We're on the same page here.  When we're done with this boy, his own mother will believe he's a Communist."

That fictional dialog is real enough, IMHO, because LHO was indeed included in the operations of 544 Camp Street, and LHO did indeed become sheep-dipped as a Fidel-loving Communist in New Orleans during the summer of 1963 right there in New Orleans.  His former Cadet leader, David Ferrie, oversaw every step of the sheep-dip.

Lying riff-raff like David Ferrie, Fred Crisman and Jack S. Martin would have told LHO that they were in the CIA, and LHO was naive enough to believe them.  They would have promised LHO a job in the CIA if he played ball with them.   LHO played ball -- and was sheep-dipped good and proper.

Their plan involved FPCC charades in New Orleans, with a final charade in Mexico City.   That's pretty much how a General Walker CT and a Guy Banister CT merge hand in hand.

Regards,
--Paul Trejo

Edited March 15, 2017 by Paul Trejo
Decision

[Mark Knight]

What, exactly, is this "Brown Amendment" of which you write?

Are you referring to the decision in the case of Brown v. Board of Education?  That was a Supreme Court decision, not a constitutional amendment.

The Constitution has specific rules for amending it.  Supreme Court decisions are NOT called AMENDMENTS...NOR ARE THEY CONSIDERED AMENDMENTS.

So I ask again...what, exactly, is this "Brown Amendment" of which you write?

[Alistair Briggs]

On 14/03/2017 at 2:28 PM, Paul Trejo said:

Lying riff-raff like David Ferrie, Fred Crisman and Jack S. Martin would have told LHO that they were in the CIA, and LHO was naive enough to believe them.  They would have promised LHO a job in the CIA if he played ball with them.   LHO played ball -- and was sheep-dipped good and proper.

Is that the same Fred Crisman that battled against mysterious and evil underground creatures to escape a cave during World War II? lol

Seriously though, I am a bit cynical at the moment with regards to the link you have proposed between Walker and Banister - sure, I understand the two of them were both 'politicians' who ran for public office on the segregation platform, and that both shared a 'favourite' slogan, and that both may well have attended the same rallies and had shared 'friends' in common... all of that could be true of two people who wouldn't be 'phone buddies'...

idk

Is there much evidence out there showing that Oswald was 'invited' to go to New Orleans at that time by Ferrie (or by someone else)?

Regards

P.S. Just in case you missed it, have a look at the previous comment from Mark Knight.

 

[Paul Trejo]

On ‎3‎/‎14‎/‎2017 at 0:36 PM, Mark Knight said:

What, exactly, is this "Brown Amendment" of which you write?

Are you referring to the decision in the case of Brown v. Board of Education?  That was a Supreme Court decision, not a constitutional amendment.

The Constitution has specific rules for amending it.  Supreme Court decisions are NOT called AMENDMENTS...NOR ARE THEY CONSIDERED AMENDMENTS.

So I ask again...what, exactly, is this "Brown Amendment" of which you write?

Right, Mark.  It's the Brown Decision, that I meant.

Regards,
--Paul Trejo

[Paul Trejo]

2 hours ago, Alistair Briggs said:

Seriously though, I am a bit cynical at the moment with regards to the link you have proposed between Walker and Banister - sure, I understand the two of them were both 'politicians' who ran for public office on the segregation platform, and that both shared a 'favourite' slogan, and that both may well have attended the same rallies and had shared 'friends' in common... all of that could be true of two people who wouldn't be 'phone buddies'...

idk

Is there much evidence out there showing that Oswald was 'invited' to go to New Orleans at that time by Ferrie (or by someone else)?

Regards

Alistair,

I continue to recommend the exciting recent book by Dr. Jeffrey Caufield, General Walker and the Murder of President Kennedy: the Extensive New Evidence of a Radical Right Conspiracy (2015). 

In that book Dr. Caufield also identifies friends that Banister and Walker had in common -- most notably, Kent and Phoebe Courtney, publishers of right wing material in Louisiana.  Furthermore, General Walker was frequently in Louisiana on business.  On the day of the JFK assassination, actually, General Walker was in Louisiana on business.

Dr. Caufield makes his case about the 1963 connections between Banister and Walker in that book, and I find him persuasive.

As for actual "evidence" showing that David Ferrie invited Oswald to go to New Orleans only days after the Walker shooting -- I know of none.

We can only say that Oswald certainly did decide to go to New Orleans only a few days after the Walker shooting, and that Oswald's new job at Reily Coffee Company on Canal Street was only fifty paces away from 544 Camp Street, where David Ferrie worked.

It would not take long before Oswald's FPCC fliers would bear the stamp of 544 Camp Street.

Regards,
--Paul Trejo

Edited March 15, 2017 by Paul Trejo

[Alistair Briggs]

18 hours ago, Paul Trejo said:

It would not take long before Oswald's FPCC fliers would bear the stamp of 544 Camp Street.

Regarding the fliers, it seems that Oswald ordered 1,000, some of them ended up being stamped with the Camp Street address, some with his own address on them and some with the name of Hidell and the PO Box no on them. I wonder what the purpose of doing it that way was? Was there some kind of advantage to putting 3 different 'contact addresses' on them...

... considering he 'hired' two people to help distribute them, surely it wouldn't take that long for 3 people to hand out 1,000 fliers. Yet there were two separate days that Oswald was handing them out - on which of those did he have the help with him? I have an idea running through my mind just now but need to do a bit more digging.

Just wondering Paul, what do you make of the name A J Hidell?

Regards

[Paul Trejo]

On 3/16/2017 at 10:46 AM, Alistair Briggs said:

Regarding the fliers, it seems that Oswald ordered 1,000, some of them ended up being stamped with the Camp Street address, some with his own address on them and some with the name of Hidell and the PO Box no on them. I wonder what the purpose of doing it that way was? Was there some kind of advantage to putting 3 different 'contact addresses' on them...

... considering he 'hired' two people to help distribute them, surely it wouldn't take that long for 3 people to hand out 1,000 fliers. Yet there were two separate days that Oswald was handing them out - on which of those did he have the help with him? I have an idea running through my mind just now but need to do a bit more digging.

Just wondering Paul, what do you make of the name A J Hidell?

Regards

Alistair,

Although Marina thought that Lee invented the name of Alek J. Hidell because it rhymed with "Fidel" (to her) I think that's incorrect.

I think that Oswald wanted an alias in order to enter clandestine politics underground -- at his own decision.   I think Oswald tried to think of name for his alias, and he thought of the name "Alek" because of a Russian pal in Minsk named "Alek."

Trying to think of a last name, I believe he knew a Marine at El Toro whose last name was "Hidell" or close to it.  

I really think it was that simple.   If you've ever tried to think of an alias for yourself, Alistair, perhaps your experience is like mine.   I ruminate over names of people I already know, and make combinations of first and last names that I have never seen matched before.  

I think that's what LHO did.

Regards,
--Paul Trejo 

Edited March 18, 2017 by Paul Trejo