Steve Thomas Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 It doesn't appear to me that there was any confusion on Benavides' part. We only have Bowley's word that Benavides didn't know how to use the radio. I had no idea that Bowley worked as a doorman at the Vegas Club and that his wife, Joyce was also a barmaid there. When Dispatch told the citizen to stay off the air, that they already had that information; that was three minutes after the fact. http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/benavide.htm Mr. BELIN - Then what did you do? Mr. BENAVIDES - Then I don't know if I opened the car door back further than what it was or not, but anyway, I went in and pulled the radio and I mashed the button and told them that an officer had been shot, and I didn't get an answer, so I said it again, and this guy asked me whereabouts all of a sudden, and I said, on 10th Street. I couldn't remember where it was at at the time. So I looked up and I seen this number and I said 410 East 10th Street. Mr. BELIN - You saw a number on the house then? Mr. BENAVIDES - Yes. Mr. BELIN - All right. Mr. BENAVIDES - Then he started to--then I don't know what he said; but I put the radio back. I mean, the microphone back up, and this other guy was standing there, so I got up out of the car, and I don't know, I wasn't sure if he heard me, and the other guy sat down in the car. Mr. BELIN - There was another passerby that stopped? Mr. BENAVIDES - Yes, sir. Mr. BELIN - Who was he, do you know? Mr. BENAVIDES - I couldn't tell you. I don't know who he was. Mr. BELIN - Was he driving a car or walking? Mr. BENAVIDES - I don't know. He was just standing there whenever I looked up. He was standing at the door of the car, and I don't know what he said to the officer or the phone, but the officer told him to keep the line clear, or something, and stay off the phone, or something like that. That he already knew about it. So then I turned and walked off. I never did assist him after that at all. http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/bowley.htm AFFIDAVIT IN ANY FACT THE STATE OF TEXAS COUNTY OF DALLAS Affidavit taken 12/2/63 BEFORE ME, Mary Rattan, a Notary Public in and for said County, State of Texas, on this day personally appeared T.F. Bowley w/m/35 of 1454 Summertime Lane, TE6 5965 who, after being by me duly sworn, on oath deposes and says: On Friday November 22, 1963 I picked up my daughter at the R. L. Thornton School in Singing Hills at about 12:55 pm. I then left the school to pick up my wife who was at work at the Telephone Company at Ninth Street and Zangs Street. I was headed north on Marsalis and turned west on 10th Street. I traveled about a block and noticed a Dallas police squad car stopped in the traffic lane headed east on 10th Street. I saw a police officer lying next to the left front wheel. I stopped my car and got out to go to the scene. I looked at my watch and it said 1:10 pm. Several people were at the scene. When I got there the first thing I did was try to help the officer. He appeared beyond help to me. A man was trying to use the radio in the squad car but stated he didn't know how to operate it. I know how and took the radio from him. I said, "Hello, operator. A police officer has been shot here." The dispatcher asked for the location. I found out the location and told the dispatcher what it was. A few minutes later an ambulance came to the scene. https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=205582&relPageId=15&search=T.F._Bowley A Record from Mary's Database Record: BOWLEY, TEMPLE F. "TOM" Mary's Comments: Shown as "Bewley" in error. Representative of Western Electric. Wife: Joyce. Joyce worked as barmaid at Vegas Club during time Bowley worked there as a doorman. https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=149247&relPageId=5&search=T.F._Bowley http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/dpdtapes/tapes2.htm 1:15 PM Dispatcher Unit ending in 6. (Long pause, 15 seconds) 1:16 PM Citizen Hello, police operator? Dispatcher Go ahead. Go ahead, citizen using the police radio. Citizen There's been a shooting out here. Dispatcher Where's it at? Dispatcher The citizen using the police radio . . . Citizen Tenth Street. Dispatcher What location on Tenth Street? Citizen Between Marsalis and Beckley. It's a police officer. Somebody shot him. What -- what's . . . 404 Tenth Street. Dispatcher Can you hear me? (Man and woman's voices in background) Dispatcher 78. Citizen It's in a police car, number 10. Dispatcher 78. Dispatcher (?) 78. Citizen Got that? Citizen Hello, police operator. Did you get that? Dispatcher Attention. Signal 19, police officer, 510 E. Jefferson. Citizen Thank you. 35 (Ptm. J.M. Lewis) 35. 259 (unknown) 259. Dispatcher The citizen using the police radio: Remain off the radio now. 1:19 PM (three minutes later) Citizen Pardon, from out here on Tenth Street, 500 block. This officer just shot. I think he's dead. Dispatcher 10-4. We have that information. The citizen using the radio: Remain off the radio now. Steve Thomas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Lloyd Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 So Benavides gives the address as 404 Tenth Street but the dispatcher calls a Signal 19 at 510 E. Jefferson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Thomas Posted August 22, 2019 Author Share Posted August 22, 2019 24 minutes ago, Ian Lloyd said: So Benavides gives the address as 404 Tenth Street but the dispatcher calls a Signal 19 at 510 E. Jefferson? Ian, Yep. It appears that way. I never have figured that one out. Steve Thomas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Von Pein Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 (edited) Steve, the 1:19 radio call you highlighted wasn't made by Benavides or Bowley. It's Ted Callaway's radio call. Edited August 22, 2019 by David Von Pein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James DiEugenio Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 That is really interesting about Bowley working for Ruby. I think Milo Reech over at DPF first reported on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Von Pein Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 56 minutes ago, James DiEugenio said: That is really interesting about Bowley working for Ruby. So coincidences CAN happen in the JFK case without "conspiracy" entering into it. Right, Jim? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James DiEugenio Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 Did I say anything to you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Von Pein Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 (edited) 43 minutes ago, James DiEugenio said: Did I say anything to you? So what? I was merely making a valid point (unsolicited). And I think if you try real hard, Jim, you could manage to be a little snottier. Edited August 23, 2019 by David Von Pein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Thomas Posted August 23, 2019 Author Share Posted August 23, 2019 9 hours ago, David Von Pein said: Steve, the 1:19 radio call you highlighted wasn't made by Benavides or Bowley. It's Ted Callaway's radio call. David, Thank you. "Mr. CALLAWAY. I saw a squad car, and by that time there was four or five people that had gathered, a couple of cars had stopped. Then I saw--I went on up to the squad car and saw the police officer lying in the street. I see he had been shot in the head. So the first thing I did, I ran over to the squad car. I didn't know whether anybody reported it or not. So I got on the police radio and called them, and told them a man had been shot, told them the location, I thought the officer was dead. They said we know about it, stay off the air, so I went back." Steve Thomas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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