John Kowalski Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 There is a new movie about MK ULTRA that shows the experiments and mind control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 8 minutes ago, John Kowalski said: There is a new movie about MK ULTRA that shows the experiments and mind control. Thanks for sharing, John. I'll certainly watch it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger DeLaria Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 3 hours ago, John Kowalski said: There is a new movie about MK ULTRA that shows the experiments and mind control. Looks good, I'm going to check it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie Robertson Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 This movie was not good at all I saw it on the 7th but it completely made it seem like drugging people was a experimental treatment that was saving people from getting a lobotomy. They never mentioned the force experimentation in prisons or any of the abuses against human ethics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kowalski Posted October 16, 2022 Author Share Posted October 16, 2022 6 hours ago, Robbie Robertson said: This movie was not good at all I saw it on the 7th but it completely made it seem like drugging people was a experimental treatment that was saving people from getting a lobotomy. They never mentioned the force experimentation in prisons or any of the abuses against human ethics Have to disagree, movie shows many victims of this program and its primary purpose was not to save people from getting a lobotomy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie Robertson Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 (edited) 42 minutes ago, John Kowalski said: Have to disagree, movie shows many victims of this program and its primary purpose was not to save people from getting a lobotomy. The movie does not depict anything more than a few drug trials where the people were willing participants in a effort to heal their mental illnesses. Then proceeds to act like a rogue funding individual was responsible hence the ending, where’s the government handpicking psychiatrists from institutions like Yale and harvard Sydney Gottlieb or Joylon West and Ewen Cameron? this movie acted strictly observational and did not portray the real harm of mkultra thus shouldn’t be titled as such wormwood isn’t even a detailed report on mkultra more about Frank Olsen and his death that his son is suing the cia about and that can tell you more than the film that is titled Mkultra they literally had a scene where a phone call happened as a lobotomy began to stop it and enlist the kid in the new program using lsd. Clearly sending a message like hey this is better than a lobotomy Edited October 16, 2022 by Robbie Robertson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie Robertson Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 (edited) The top review on Screen Rant The film is to the point and does not worry about historical accuracies, focused on making an entertaining product instead. The performances are understated but brimming with talent; the actors leave no stone unturned. As a director, Sorrentino knows what he wants onscreen and gets it there. From LSD therapy to German mind control, MK Ultra has what it takes to tackle its subject matter and then some. German mind control and not worrying about historical accuracy that’s what you want in film about mkultra no American government involvement and not historically accurate Edited October 16, 2022 by Robbie Robertson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kowalski Posted October 16, 2022 Author Share Posted October 16, 2022 12 minutes ago, Robbie Robertson said: The movie does not depict anything more than a few drug trials where the people were willing participants in a effort to heal their mental illnesses. Did this film give you the impression that the real purpose of these drug trials was to do an experiment at the behest of the CIA? This is why MK Ultra is so insidious, people were offered experimental treatments, they thought they were been treated for their problems, but the real purpose was to determine if LSD could be used by the CIA. That is why the US government paid the victims $75,000 in compensation. There was a scene where a man is hanging from a rafter and was tortured, another scene where a prostitute is plying her client with LSD, and all you do is focus on one victim who did not have a lobotomy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie Robertson Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 1 minute ago, John Kowalski said: Did this film give you the impression that the real purpose of these drug trials was to do an experiment at the behest of the CIA? This is why MK Ultra is so insidious, people were offered experimental treatments, they thought they were been treated for their problems, but the real purpose was to determine if LSD could be used by the CIA. That is why the US government paid the victims $75,000 in compensation. There was a scene where a man is hanging from a rafter and was tortured, another scene where a prostitute is plying her client with LSD, and all you do is focus on one victim who did not have a lobotomy. One victim is all I focus on? What about drugging people without their knowledge in random places like operation midnight climax or forcing people in prisons that also Stephen kinzer writes about. look up when the cia started using lsd on people it was way before the date they said in the movie and we know that from Joylon West wiki on brainwashing war victims with lsd. This film could have just focused on real documents and cases we know about instead of light playing the real tragedy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie Robertson Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 (edited) For anyone to see that film who doesn’t know about mkultra would be like wow that’s crazy and walk away instead of looking at any of these https://biotech.law.lsu.edu/cases/research/stanley.htm https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Midnight_Climax https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202203/1254970.shtmlhttps://newsinteractives.cbc.ca/longform/brainwashed-mkultra https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sites/default/files/hearings/95mkultra.pdf https://therealnews.com/cia-targeted-black-americans-for-mkultra-drug-experimentation-new-study-says https://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/mkultra https://theintercept.com/2019/11/24/cia-mkultra-louis-jolyon-west/https://bigthink.com/the-past/mkultra-cia-lsd/ https://www.nytimes.com/1977/08/04/archives/80-institutions-used-in-cia-mind-studies-admiral-turner-tells.html https://www.mcgilltribune.com/mind-control-mcgill-mk-ultra/ https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB122/index.htm Edited October 16, 2022 by Robbie Robertson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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