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Here’s the full https://atwaatwar.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/the-vince-bugliosi-story-16-3-mb.pdf

And to your point of him saying yeah, I asked him six time to make sure I clarified if Oswald was intelligence and if you notice at the 1/hr 10 min mark as I’m talking about Oswald intelligence connection he said yeah in the middle of me talking agreeing on what I was saying. The beginning of the episode he stopped and corrected me when I got something wrong, so the idea of him saying yeah as a response but not answering the question is ridiculous, I asked him over five times and even clarified it further to make sure and if he didn’t agree he wouldn’t say yes or yeah after I asked the question and you can see that when he talks about the cia involvement in which he repeated that the government didn’t do it. Then he even says at the 1/hr 22 min mark this is speculation but some possibilities and all were ways he could have been used, who speculates if they don’t agree he would have just said no and moved to a different question

I think the importance is the first sentence I started it off with which is Oswald was intelligence. The rest of the episode is him saying the warren commission painted a story for the public and his investigation was hindered by the cia max fbi.

Hermino Diaz Garcia and Virgilio Gonzalez so falls in line more with the operation 40 theory

He didn’t remember the names but he learned it from Cuban intelligence which he said in the last five min

He said two master assassins

It’s better to hear him talk about it https://open.spotify.com/episode/4OXGSwuHYf0gHtJxGWIbLL?si=nrdgvoJeS4SjPaycFFH1NA and the documents here https://atwaatwar.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/the-vince-bugliosi-story-16-3-mb.pdf

You can skip 35 min but he admitted Oswald was intelligence at the 1hr 7min mark G. Robert Blakey is the nation's foremost authority on the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organization Act (RICO), has served on the Notre Dame Law School faculty for more than 30 years. He teaches in the areas of criminal law and procedure, federal criminal law and procedure, terrorism, and jurisprudence. Blakey was Chief Counsel and Staff Director to the U.S. House Select Committee on Assassinations from 1977 to 1979, which investigated the assassinations of John F. Kennedy and Martin Luther King Jr. under the direction of Louis Stokes. Blakey also helped Stokes draft the President John F. Kennedy Assassination Records Collection Act of 1992. He and Richard Billings, the editor of the final report of the Committee, would later write two books about the assassination. Out Of The Blank #1264 - G. Robert Blakey

Dale M. Brumfield is a Journalist, Author, Cultural Archaeologist and Anti-Death Penalty Advocate who has written over thirteen books dealing with various issues of press and human rights. Dale is the author of "Independent Press in D.C. and Virginia: An Underground History" which details the nation's capital and the state of Virginia were a hotbed of political and social turmoil that marked the 1960s and 1970s. The area saw anti-Vietnam War protests, civil rights marches and students clamoring for a cultural revolution. Underground publications in D.C. and Virginia sprang up to document the radical change and question the "straight media." Off Our Backs led the charge for women's equality. The Gay Blade fought for the rights of homosexuals. Even the FBI began infiltrating the underground press movement by planting informants and creating fake magazines to attract suspicious "radicals." Out Of The Blank #1259 - Dale M. Brumfield

Check out David Blavk and his books on lsd and the weather underground he’s been on my show twice and his books cover a lot and had me interested in Timothy Leary I did a few episodes on but nobody wants to touch the MKULTRA stuff. David talbot and me went into it a bit but names ive seen across various documents related to mkultra are Ewen Cameron Sydney Gottlieb Joylon West The Central Intelligence Agency drugged American citizens with- out their knowledge or consent. It used university facilities and per- sonnel without their knowledge. It funded leading researchers, often without their knowledge. These institutes, these individuals, have a right to know who they are and how and when they were used. As of today, the Agency itself refuses to declassify the names of those institutions and individuals, quite appropriately, I might say, with regard to the individuals under the Privacy Act. It seems to me to be a fundamental responsibility to notify those individuals or institutions, rather. I think many of them were caught up in an unwitting manner to do research for the Agency. Many researchers, distinguished researchers, some of our most outstanding members of our scientific community, involved in this network, now really do not know whether they were involved or not, and it seems to me that the whole health and climate in terms of our university and our scientific and health facilities are entitled to that response. and that’s here https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sites/default/files/hearings/95mkultra.pdf

John potash and Stephen kinzer on my show briefly mentioned this but you can find Gottlieb was used in some of the Assassination attempts on Castro and lumumba https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/4183168/DCI-LTR-TO-U-S-SENATE-RE-SECOND-SECRETARY-OF.pdf also found this which is interesting if you look at the mkultra stuff https://embed.documentcloud.org/documents/22409199-oswald-and-lsd

page 8 and onwards https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/4135271/DOCID-32264840.pdf

They had quite a few amount of safes and one that had two sets of combinations with hsca staff that had one and cia with another. https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/22423763/cia-officer-rifles-files-of-hill-panel-cia-officer-since-fired-rifled-hill-panels-files.pdf https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/22594379/hsca-internal-security-problem.pdf https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/22684413/hsca-security.pdf

The part where he said two things of why they might be keeping documents 1. if a name is included and has not been cleared for release but In this case everyone is practically dead. So he said that wouldn’t be the case 2. whatever they were using back then is still used in intelligence operations now so not to expose the secrets of these agencies to foreign adversaries

He was on my show and you can notice one thing he does is bring examples of a bunch of things that aren’t relative to the point or question that is being addressed. Plus i don’t care if you are left or right or whatever your politics are but the extreme conservatism boiled out in the conversation in this episode which I just tuned out

I was gonna have shermer back on my show to talk about his book addressing the JFK Assassination and glad Joe had him back on and brought it up out the gate https://open.spotify.com/episode/63zzclCDFODzQonQx2j8UK?si=nw_yuNd_R5aitI-wRsjKsQ&context=spotify%3Ashow%3A4rOoJ6Egrf8K2IrywzwOMk

For anyone to see that film who doesn’t know about mkultra would be like wow that’s crazy and walk away instead of looking at any of these https://biotech.law.lsu.edu/cases/research/stanley.htm https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Midnight_Climax https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202203/1254970.shtml https://newsinteractives.cbc.ca/longform/brainwashed-mkultra https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sites/default/files/hearings/95mkultra.pdf https://therealnews.com/cia-targeted-black-americans-for-mkultra-drug-experimentation-new-study-says https://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/mkultra https://theintercept.com/2019/11/24/cia-mkultra-louis-jolyon-west/ https://bigthink.com/the-past/mkultra-cia-lsd/ https://www.nytimes.com/1977/08/04/archives/80-institutions-used-in-cia-mind-studies-admiral-turner-tells.html https://www.mcgilltribune.com/mind-control-mcgill-mk-ultra/ https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB122/index.htm

One victim is all I focus on? What about drugging people without their knowledge in random places like operation midnight climax or forcing people in prisons that also Stephen kinzer writes about. look up when the cia started using lsd on people it was way before the date they said in the movie and we know that from Joylon West wiki on brainwashing war victims with lsd. This film could have just focused on real documents and cases we know about instead of light playing the real tragedy

The top review on Screen Rant The film is to the point and does not worry about historical accuracies, focused on making an entertaining product instead. The performances are understated but brimming with talent; the actors leave no stone unturned. As a director, Sorrentino knows what he wants onscreen and gets it there. From LSD therapy to German mind control, MK Ultra has what it takes to tackle its subject matter and then some. German mind control and not worrying about historical accuracy that’s what you want in film about mkultra no American government involvement and not historically accurate

The movie does not depict anything more than a few drug trials where the people were willing participants in a effort to heal their mental illnesses. Then proceeds to act like a rogue funding individual was responsible hence the ending, where’s the government handpicking psychiatrists from institutions like Yale and harvard Sydney Gottlieb or Joylon West and Ewen Cameron? this movie acted strictly observational and did not portray the real harm of mkultra thus shouldn’t be titled as such wormwood isn’t even a detailed report on mkultra more about Frank Olsen and his death that his son is suing the cia about and that can tell you more than the film that is titled Mkultra they literally had a scene where a phone call happened as a lobotomy began to stop it and enlist the kid in the new program using lsd. Clearly sending a message like hey this is better than a lobotomy

This movie was not good at all I saw it on the 7th but it completely made it seem like drugging people was a experimental treatment that was saving people from getting a lobotomy. They never mentioned the force experimentation in prisons or any of the abuses against human ethics

Posted this here because of spotters at educational university’s some that had Fair play committees Daniel Golden is a senior editor at ProPublica, a non-profit website for investigative reporting. His latest book "Spy Schools": How The CIA, FBI, and Foreign Intelligence Secretly Exploit America's Universities, the book reveals that globalization—the influx of foreign students and professors and the outflow of Americans for study, teaching, and conferences abroad—has transformed U.S. higher education into a front line for international spying. The FBI and CIA reciprocate, tapping international students and faculty as informants. Universities ignore or even condone this interference, despite the tension between their professed global values and the nationalistic culture of espionage. Out Of The Blank #1214 - Daniel Golden https://youtu.be/04wZO9gSycA

One thing to understand about this program is that the three year old girl who died was not on purpose. using lsd and drugs were Intended to brain wash but it was failed because it was unpredictable on what would affect who in different ways. But the program became a way to use lsd to shatter someone’s reality if you look at people who were being used on in the beginning and towards the end all fit a certain description despite personality disorders but just mental health issues in general. military were tested on because they work for them and was a bonus if you had a headache issue like in the three year old girl case where you are seeking any sort of treatment for your headaches including experimental. Look into the dark history of psychiatry and just like mkultra they tested at prisons and mental institutions because they would be taken less serious than a candidate that was a part of the general public. I’ve seen some documents on what they have on mkultra but I prefer more documentation in most cases and for this one besides the hearing on mkultra where joylon west lied and threatened to sue anyone who said he was involved till he died, Tom O’Neil who exposed some stuff on bugilosi also got foia files on the correspondence from west to Gottlieb who ran the program. That stuff wasn’t disclosed because it was top secret which sucks but thank god for journalists who are doing the work to get this known.

Timothy Jay is a psychology professor emeritus at Massachusetts College of Liberal Arts. He has been conducting research on the science of swearing since the 1970s. A world-renowned expert in cursing, Dr. Jay maintains an active schedule of research, writing and speaking. He has published numerous books and chapters on cursing, and a textbook for Prentice Hall on The Psychology of Language. Out Of The Blank #1049 - Timothy Jay https://youtu.be/9q_LnR7tTAk

People tried but hard when we are quick in labeling conspiracy https://beta.ctvnews.ca/local/montreal/2018/5/20/1_3938447.html