Gil Jesus Posted April 3, 2023 Share Posted April 3, 2023 JFK Assassination witness S.M.Holland shows author Mark Lane the location behind the picket fence where he ran to when he saw smoke and describes what he found when he got there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Blackmon Posted April 3, 2023 Share Posted April 3, 2023 Another credible witness whose testimony was dismissed by WC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Cotter Posted April 3, 2023 Share Posted April 3, 2023 Paragraph from Anthony Summers’ book The Kennedy Conspiracy?: "Sam Holland did testify to the Warren Commission, but his evidence was ignored. Skeptics have suggested he saw smoke or steam from a locomotive. Clearly that is not what he saw; the railway line itself is much too far from the fence at the top of the knoll. Others, including a congressman on the Assassinations Committee, have questioned whether rifles in fact emit smoke. Experts confirm that they do. Holland’s account was in fact corroborated and buttressed by others He was backed up – with variations as to the precise location of the smoke – by eight witnesses who had been standing on the same bridge, most of them fellow railway workers. Other people say the same phenomenon from other vantage points." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin Cole Posted April 3, 2023 Share Posted April 3, 2023 14 minutes ago, John Cotter said: Paragraph from Anthony Summers’ book The Kennedy Conspiracy?: "Sam Holland did testify to the Warren Commission, but his evidence was ignored. Skeptics have suggested he saw smoke or steam from a locomotive. Clearly that is not what he saw; the railway line itself is much too far from the fence at the top of the knoll. Others, including a congressman on the Assassinations Committee, have questioned whether rifles in fact emit smoke. Experts confirm that they do. Holland’s account was in fact corroborated and buttressed by others He was backed up – with variations as to the precise location of the smoke – by eight witnesses who had been standing on the same bridge, most of them fellow railway workers. Other people say the same phenomenon from other vantage points." Yes, a silly canard is that modern firearms "do not emit smoke." Even today certain cheap brands are known to smoke. There are complaints on gun boards about "Indian" brand ammo smoking. Moreover, for .38 bore, "hand packing" one's own ammo is popular. Shorter gun barrels emit more "muzzle blast" than longer barrels, and recently lubed barrels will smoke. A snub-nose .38 can smoke a lot if recently lubed and using cheap ammo. There is the possibility that the GK shot was a "smoke and bang" show, an intentional diversion. In that case, a smoky ammo would deliberately be used, even stage-prop ammo, and a snub-nose .38, the loud and default concealed weapon of the time. The GK area is where both a Dallas sheriff and a Dallas police officer independently encountered a man flashing a fake Secret Service badge. It must have be been fake, as the Secret Service says all their guys were in the motorcade. The WC followed up on this lead like Inspector Clouseau in a coma. If I had to bet, there was a guy with a snub-nose .38 in the GK area who delivered a smoke-and-bang show. The diversion worked excellently. Just IMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Blackmon Posted April 3, 2023 Share Posted April 3, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, John Cotter said: Paragraph from Anthony Summers’ book The Kennedy Conspiracy?: "Sam Holland did testify to the Warren Commission, but his evidence was ignored. Skeptics have suggested he saw smoke or steam from a locomotive. Clearly that is not what he saw; the railway line itself is much too far from the fence at the top of the knoll. Others, including a congressman on the Assassinations Committee, have questioned whether rifles in fact emit smoke. Experts confirm that they do. Holland’s account was in fact corroborated and buttressed by others He was backed up – with variations as to the precise location of the smoke – by eight witnesses who had been standing on the same bridge, most of them fellow railway workers. Other people say the same phenomenon from other vantage points." Up until recently, we had our own self-proclaimed firearms expert on this very forum who emphatically declared that if somebody shot a rifle from the knoll area (which this expert did not believe) then there would not be any smoke. See how easy it is to make problematic evidence just go away? Edited April 3, 2023 by Charles Blackmon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gil Jesus Posted April 3, 2023 Author Share Posted April 3, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, John Cotter said: Paragraph from Anthony Summers’ book The Kennedy Conspiracy?: "Sam Holland did testify to the Warren Commission, but his evidence was ignored. Skeptics have suggested he saw smoke or steam from a locomotive. Clearly that is not what he saw; the railway line itself is much too far from the fence at the top of the knoll. Others, including a congressman on the Assassinations Committee, have questioned whether rifles in fact emit smoke. Experts confirm that they do. Holland’s account was in fact corroborated and buttressed by others He was backed up – with variations as to the precise location of the smoke – by eight witnesses who had been standing on the same bridge, most of them fellow railway workers. Other people say the same phenomenon from other vantage points." Edited April 3, 2023 by Gil Jesus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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