Matt Cloud Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Matt Cloud said: One would hope, yes. Alas, you've strolled into the Hall of Mirrors. The informant may well be "FEDORA." Fedora was the codename for Aleksey Kulak (1923[1]–1983[2]), a KGB-agent who infiltrated the United Nations during the Cold War. One afternoon in March 1962, Kulak walked into the FBI's NYC field office in broad daylight and offered his services. Kulak told his American handlers there was a KGB mole working at the FBI, leading to a decades-long mole hunt that seriously disrupted the agency. Although the FBI's official position for a few years in the late 1970s and early 1980s was that Fedora had been Kremlin-loyal all along, that position was reversed to its original one in the mid-1980s, and Fedora is now said by the Bureau to have been spying faithfully for the FBI from when he "walked in" in March 1962 until he returned to Moscow for good in 1977. See here: Rather, I should have said the informant may have been the mole that FEDORA and/or Golitsyn alleged to be in the FBI in DC. Edited June 11 by Matt Cloud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Allison Posted June 11 Author Share Posted June 11 2 hours ago, Bill Simpich said: The FBI offered the opinion that Oswald's source had to be a Cuban consulate informant, a KGB member, or the CIA itself. Most likely, it was a contact of the FBI (such as Jim Hosty) or even Silvia Duran at the Cuban consulate who tipped off Oswald about Azcue's replacement. I can't see Hosty doing that, but Silvia Duran would be a safe bet, IMO. If Azcue's exit was already known at the Consulate in September, Duran could have passed that info on to Oswald, who was supposedly very angry with Azcue. And the reason Oswald got the date wrong/early was because all he actually knew was that Azcue was going to be leaving in November; he didn't know the specific date. FWIW, that also might be partial evidence for the rumor that Oswald and Duran hooked up in Mexico City. It's my belief that after New Orleans, the Oswald's marriage was over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Cloud Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Matt Allison said: I can't see Hosty doing that, but Silvia Duran would be a safe bet, IMO. If Azcue's exit was already known at the Consulate in September, Duran could have passed that info on to Oswald, who was supposedly very angry with Azcue. And the reason Oswald got the date wrong/early was because all he actually knew was that Azcue was going to be leaving in November; he didn't know the specific date. FWIW, that also might be partial evidence for the rumor that Oswald and Duran hooked up in Mexico City. It's my belief that after New Orleans, the Oswald's marriage was over. "The FBI offered the opinion that Oswald's source had to be a Cuban consulate informant, a KGB member, or the CIA itself. Most likely, it was a contact of the FBI (such as Jim Hosty) or even Silvia Duran at the Cuban consulate who tipped off Oswald about Azcue's replacement. It's a jump to "most likely" from merely identifying the possibilities. Worse, it requires ignoring or ignorance of the allegations of Soviet penetration of the FBI and the CIA as well the possibility of Soviet involvement in the Mexico City frame-up altogether. The FBI's opinion, such as it is -- it's really just a statement of logic -- remains. Edited June 11 by Matt Cloud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Cohen Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 Some worthwhile food for thought on this subject from another forum... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean Ceulemans Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 9 minutes ago, Matt Cloud said: "The FBI offered the opinion that Oswald's source had to be a Cuban consulate informant, a KGB member, or the CIA itself. Most likely, it was a contact of the FBI (such as Jim Hosty) or even Silvia Duran at the Cuban consulate who tipped off Oswald about Azcue's replacement. It's a jump to "most likely" from merely identifying the possibilities. Worse, it requires ignoring or ignorance of the allegations of Soviet penetration of the FBI and the CIA as well the possibility of Soviet involvement in the Mexico City frame-up altogether. The FBI's opinion, such as it is -- it's really just a statement of logic -- remains. Just some thoughts Duran is certainly an option for the info on Azcue, and some people just talk to much, no bad intensions, but the way they are. Now, that´s not something her employer would like. I think she was rather casual with the people she was dealing with at her office. Just too nice a girl, versus the more strict attitude one would expect there. She did tell Oswald what wouldn´t work, but if he wanted to try it (LHO would go anyway IMO)... When it went ugly I can just see her saying something comforting like "hey, it may not help your case, but he´s to be replaced soon, you are not the only one he´s having problems with". Or anything like that. Now, all of that is just a feeling I have, LHO himself never mentioned her I think? Others indirectly (later that is as well), but that could have been framing to their own use, or instructions. Looking at those human interactions and figuring why they do some things is interesting, but LHO will be an enigma forever. Sometimes I feel that´s exactly how he would have wanted it, had he lived that is.., kinda like his "mentor" GDM, also one that loved to confuse/shock people. LHO did look up to him, and when GDM parted for Haiti, LHO went downhill fast(er). GDM knew this, however it apparently took him years to face it emotionally. One can play a roll for many many years, but in the end (or a lot sooner...) some pay the price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean Ceulemans Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 (edited) accidental copy post (plse ignore) Edited June 11 by Jean Ceulemans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Cloud Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 1 minute ago, Jean Ceulemans said: I don't think most have even begun to understand the mystery of Oswald. What you write is very romantic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Cohen Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 21 minutes ago, Jean Ceulemans said: Looking at those human interactions and figuring why they do some things is interesting, but LHO will be an enigma forever. Sometimes I feel that´s exactly how he would have wanted it, had he lived that is.. This is a great point - and it doesn't require him being part of a decades-long government-funded doppelganger scheme and/or a U.S. intelligence operative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Allison Posted June 11 Author Share Posted June 11 23 minutes ago, Jean Ceulemans said: I think she was rather casual with the people she was dealing with at her office. Well, she was certainly casual enough to give Oswald her phone number. https://www.archives.gov/files/research/jfk/releases/180-10142-10301.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Cloud Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 On 6/11/2024 at 7:56 PM, Jonathan Cohen said: This is a great point - and it doesn't require him being part of a decades-long government-funded doppelganger scheme and/or a U.S. intelligence operative. @Bill Simpich What do you make of p. 78 here, mentioning "AMSAIL-1" "posed as Cuban Emb Off," July 1963? https://www.archives.gov/files/research/jfk/releases/104-10079-10016.pdf https://www.maryferrell.org/php/cryptdb.php?id=AMSAIL-1 Bill Simpich, State Secret, Chapter 4, http://maryferrell.org/pages/State_Secret_Chapter4.html ..."The head of Transcontinental S.A. was Dallas import-export agent Ramon Cortez, also known as Ramon Cortes and Raymond Cortez. Cortez had a history of working both sides of the street with the Capri casino in Havana and as a friend of Che Guevara and a celebrant at May Day celebrations. A Dallas jury convicted Cortez for impersonating a Guatemalan diplomat, but Cortez never went to jail. His variety of names served him well. During 1962, Cortez worked alongside Dimas Figueredo (AMSUPER-1).[84] Figueredo was looking for Castro’s spies as a member of the GYROSE Debriefing Unit, while the two men ran a shoe factory together. An interview with Tony Sforza indicates that he also worked with a debriefing unit – Sforza’s unit was a counterintelligence unit within the AMOTS. It’s possible that Sforza worked with a different debriefing unit than Figueredo, but it seems more likely that Task Force W would want to have its best people in the same debriefing unit. The head of the debriefing unit was Carlos Fernandez (AMSAIL-1), who conducted the impersonation of a Cuban embassy official discussed in the previous chapter. But your Chapter 3 doesn't establish that, not mentioning "Carlos Fernandez" explicitly at all and "AMSAIL-1" only in footnote 130: "130 AMSAIL-1 tried to recruit Proenza in January 1964. That went nowhere. Shaw said she was a “pretty tough nut”: Deposition of Robert Shaw, p. 52, NARA Record Number: 180-10110-10017." https://maryferrell.org/pages/State_Secret_Chapter3.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Allison Posted June 13 Author Share Posted June 13 (edited) Bill Simpich wrote: "The replacement of Azcue had been planned since early September, before Oswald's arrival into Mexico City. The reference to Azcue's replacement in the letter indicates that the writer had deep knowledge into Cuban affairs. Who knew that Azcue was about to be replaced?" I think i now understand how this happened. When Oswald visited on the 27th, Azcue was in his office training his replacement, Mirabal. This was also the time that Oswald and Azcue had their argument. At some point during everything that went on that day, Oswald must have learned Azcue was going to be leaving his job. Edited June 13 by Matt Allison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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