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I will be trolling the stream and correcting Corey's misinformation, if anyone wants to join. 😎6:30PM est

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In one of the reviews on Amazon the reviewer writes that the author alleges that the shooter has a star on the Hollywood walk of fame 🤨 Anyone know who he is referring to? 

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6 hours ago, Mike Aitken said:

In one of the reviews on Amazon the reviewer writes that the author alleges that the shooter has a star on the Hollywood walk of fame 🤨 Anyone know who he is referring to? 

Jack Valenti 

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On 6/21/2024 at 3:39 PM, Matthew Koch said:

Matthew to save me time: Who does Corey say killed JFK and Why did this person or groups of people kill JFK. Just give me the outline of what this pontificator says. Thank you.

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8 hours ago, Robert Morrow said:

Matthew to save me time: Who does Corey say killed JFK and Why did this person or groups of people kill JFK. Just give me the outline of what this pontificator says. Thank you.

Corey says that Permindex killed JFK over Israeli Nukes. 

His presentation is very similar to everything is a rich man's trick but with a Michael Collins Piper twist. The difference between Corey and many other people who subscribe to this thesis is that Corey doesn't think LBJ had anything to do with the Assassination and in the interview cites the Godfrey McHugh revelation to "debunk" LBJ being involved. (Let me know if you want I can find the time stamp for that) 

Corey thinks something very similar to what David Lifton was into at the time of his death that someone ran and jumped into the Limo or Secret Service Car to get away and he thinks it's Jack Valenti (oddly) that was the Knoll shooter. Which is why I tend to think that this is actual "Disinfo" and not misinformation

 

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12 hours ago, Matthew Koch said:

Corey says that Permindex killed JFK over Israeli Nukes. 

His presentation is very similar to everything is a rich man's trick but with a Michael Collins Piper twist. The difference between Corey and many other people who subscribe to this thesis is that Corey doesn't think LBJ had anything to do with the Assassination and in the interview cites the Godfrey McHugh revelation to "debunk" LBJ being involved. (Let me know if you want I can find the time stamp for that) 

Corey thinks something very similar to what David Lifton was into at the time of his death that someone ran and jumped into the Limo or Secret Service Car to get away and he thinks it's Jack Valenti (oddly) that was the Knoll shooter. Which is why I tend to think that this is actual "Disinfo" and not misinformation

 

Oh, you mean Corey got the JFK assassination 100% wrong? Thank-you.

He is not the only one to fall for Lyndon Johnson's play acting after the JFK assassination, when he pretended to be scared that he was going to be killed, pretended he was having a heart attack, pretending that he thought an "international conspiracy" of communists killed JFK, as he told people privately over and over again. LBJ also was playacting when he asked Hoover if he thought THEY were shooting at him (LBJ).

JFK researcher Lisa Pease and others have fallen for this fantasy. Most of these folks have not read much on Lyndon Johnson and what an absolute pathological liar and master pretender/manipulator he was.

Gen. Godfrey McHugh (1978 oral history) found a ‘hysterical” Lyndon Johnson on Air Force One “hiding” in the bathroom and saying “They’re going to get us all. It’s a plot. It’s a plot. It’s going to get us all.”

Gen. Godfrey McHugh was a former social escort of Jackie Kennedy, who he adored, and he later became an aide to JFK. Gen. McHugh in his 1978 oral history for the JFK Library described the condition and behavior of LBJ on Air Force One in the immediate aftermath of the JFK assassination.

Godfrey McHugh (oral history, interviewed by Shelden Stern, on May 19, 1978):

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 She [Jackie] turned to me again and said, “Please, let’s leave.” I felt obligated to do something. I got back up, walked back through, got to the…. Oh, no. I got on the phone because there was a phone right there and I said, “Let’s leave.” He said, “I can’t do it. I have orders to wait.” So I didn’t want to discuss it there with Mrs. Kennedy sitting there. I walked back and I said, “Swindal, what on earth is going on?” He said, “The President wants to remain in this area.” You see, I could not remember – it was President Johnson at that time. I said, “The President is in the back.” “No,” he said, “I mean President Johnson.” I said, “But he’s the Vice President.” He said, “Well, he’s going to be President.” I said, “That’s true.” And he says, “He’s ordered for me to wait until his luggage is transferred from Air Force Two to here, and I’m told that there’s going to be swearing in. I don’t know because we were told to call a [-47-] judge” – somebody, I don’t know, a woman judge that he knew – “and that she’s coming, so we’re going to have to wait.” I said, “Where is President Johnson?” He said, “I’m told, I don’t know” – because he was talking about the policy to wait – “I’m told he’s going to come, but I don’t know about it. No, I’m told he’s here; he’s in this airplane.” So I said, “I’ve walked the airplane twice” – and I know Johnson well, and I kept on walking back and looking at every person in the face and no Johnson. I get back to Ken O’Donnell, who is now furious, and he said, “Didn’t we tell you to leave?” I said, “I can’t get the crew to do it because they say President Johnson is aboard.” He said, “Obviously he isn’t.” I said, “There’s only one place, he is in the bedroom” – Mrs. Kennedy’s bedroom, which we called it because he didn’t use it so often. 

 We walked in the bedroom, and he was not there. I walked in the toilet, in the powder room, and there he [LBJ] was hiding, with the curtain closed, saying, “They’re going to get us all. It’s a plot. It’s a plot. It’s going to get us all.” He was hysterical, sitting down on the john there alone in this thing. So I walked out and I said, “My God, he’s there. Yes, you’re right. He seems very, very upset.” He said, “I don’t want to upset him any more.” I went back to Mrs. Kennedy and I said, “Mr. Johnson is here and he’s asked that the plane not leave right away.” Now he got hold of himself and got dressed again, changed his shirt or something, and ordered everybody to attend his swearing-in [-48-] ceremony including Mrs. Kennedy. Somebody came in the back saying, “Everybody is to attend including Mrs. Kennedy.” STERN: She was told, she wasn’t asked? McHUGH: She was asked, “Mrs. Kennedy, the President wants you to attend the ceremony, the swearing-in ceremony.” She turned to me and said, “At least you don’t leave him. Don’t leave him. Stay with him.” So I’m the only one on board that airplane that stayed with the casket. Never left it.

UNQUOTE

 [Godfrey McHugh oral history for JFK Library, interviewed by Shelden Stern, on May 19, 1978]

Soon after JFK was murdered, Lyndon Johnson used the most foul language in cussing out Gen. Godfrey McHugh for flying Jackie Kennedy back to Washington, D.C. from Palm Beach

From Gen. Godfrey McHugh’s 1978 Oral history with the JFK Library. Godfrey McHugh was a personal friend of Jackie and had known her for a long time::

STERN: Did you also handle Mrs. Kennedy’s trips, for example to Palm Beach, that sort of thing?

McHUGH: Oh, yes. On that one there is a very strange experience. I want to tell about that. The President had died and Mrs. Kennedy was in Palm Beach, and I felt – it was just a few days afterwards. She called me and said, “I’m going to be in Palm Beach and can you fly me back?” And, of course, my answer was immediate, “Yes, Mrs. Kennedy. What day? I’ll pick you up and fly you back to Washington.” So I took a Sabreliner and flew down to Homestead, gave a little speech there, talked to the commander and then flew to Palm Beach, refueled there, and picked up Mrs. Kennedy. Then I flew into Andrews and there was a car there to pick her up and she went. When I walked into the White House President Johnson called me in his office and started cursing me, using the foulest language. “God damn….” I mean it was unbelievable. I was trying figure out what had happened. “You have no right to fly Mrs. Kennedy. She has no right to be in any airplane of the government. How do you dare do that?” Poor Mrs. Kennedy was just widowed. I mean I couldn’t believe it.

STERN: This was very shortly after the assassination?

McHUGH: Oh, very shortly afterwards. What amazed me is that, first, it was not an executive type airplane. I have to fly four hours at least every month. I have to land several times to keep my rating as command pilot. This was a normal flight. We select where we are going to go. We select where we were going to land. The fact that I did select Palm Beach, I had selected Palm Beach many times before – I have a piece of property there near Mar-a-lago. I went there quite often. There was nothing wrong about it. I was to get flying time. You talk about Mrs. Kennedy, that was one flight that got me into trouble with Johnson, for no reason at all.

STERN: Generally I think it’s probably not particularly useful in these kinds of interviews to talk about events associated with the assassination. But there is one element in it that I think I would like to ask you, if you’re willing to discuss it. That is, I think, for example, your own testimony to the Warren Commission, all of that is known, and there’s no…

McHUGH: I did not make a thing to the Warren Commission.

STERN: Oh, I thought you did.

McHUGH: I don’t think so. I forgot about it. But I did not go to the Warren Commission.

[Godfrey McHugh oral history for JFK Library, interviewed by Shelden Stern, on May 19, 1978]

Gen. Godfrey McHugh had to slap Lyndon Johnson to compose him on 11/22/63

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          But Johnson had no intention of leaving until he was sworn in as President- a needless formality that could easily have taken place at a later time, once everyone was out of harm's way. He had placed a call to Federal District Judge Sarah Hughes, and now everyone was forced to sit in the sweltering afternoon heat- the air conditioning could not be turned on until the engines were started- waiting for Judge Hughes to arrive.

          Johnson, meantime, was cracking. General McHugh, who at first had no idea that LBJ was even on the plane, claimed that at one point he discovered Johnson cowering in the closet of the President's cabin. "They're going to kill us," he whimpered. "They're going to shoot down the plane, they're going to kill us all." It was then, McHugh said, that he actually got LBJ to "snap out of it" by slapping him. McHugh, in turn, was observed by others on the plane as dashing up and down the center aisle a half dozen times, wild-eyed and rambling.

          Neither man was a picture of composure.

 UNQUOTE

 [Christopher Anderson, Jackie After Jack, p. 11]

 

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2 hours ago, Robert Morrow said:

Oh, you mean Corey got the JFK assassination 100% wrong? Thank-you.

That's why I try to xxxxx him when he's on, because he says people like us (who are on this forum) are Kooks. 

I mean Jack Valenti and David Ferrie as gunmen? lols, that's why if you have a sense of humor you can look at the Israel did it guys as an Inside Joke 

 

 

 

He'll probably see this

Hi Corey! It's me, Mateo Cocinero.. 

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3 hours ago, Matthew Koch said:

That's why I try to xxxxx him when he's on, because he says people like us (who are on this forum) are Kooks. 

I mean Jack Valenti and David Ferrie as gunmen? lols, that's why if you have a sense of humor you can look at the Israel did it guys as an Inside Joke 

 

 

 

He'll probably see this

Hi Corey! It's me, Mateo Cocinero.. 

Jack Valenti was a Houston advertising executive and an aide to Lyndon Johnson. The LURE to get JFK to Texas was the Albert Thomas dinner in Houston.

Cong. Albert Thomas was the man seen WINKING at Lyndon Johnson just after the swearing in of LBJ.

Jackie Kennedy, who immediately thought (correctly) that LBJ killed JFK, told William Manchester that John Kennedy had been LURED to Texas so that he could be killed. "Lured" is the word Jackie used.

Cong. Albert Thomas WENT TO RICE UNIVERSITY AS A ROOMMATE with George Brown (of massive contractor Brown and Root) was along with his brother Herman Brown was Lyndon Johnson's #1 sugar daddy for decades. "Sugar daddy" means the Brown brothers gave LBJ massive amounts of bribes and illegal campaign contributions. In return LBJ greased the machinery of government to give large, profitable contracts to George and Herman Brown, later Kellogg Brown and Root during the Vietnam War.

Kellogg Brown and Root and George Brown made a ton of money off of the Vietnam War.

Jack Valenti was probably CIA and he was definitely Council on Foreign Relations.

I think the Johnson Administration investigated him for possibly being a homosexual.

Lew Wasserman got Jack Valenti his job as head of the Motion Picture Association. Lew Wasserman, a top Zionist Jew and LBJ fundraiser, was very close to Lyndon Johnson and his son sits on the LBJ Library Foundation in 2024.

Jack Valenti lobbied Congress to get a special law passed to allow him to be buried at Arlington National Cemetery.

Jack Valenti married LBJ's top mistress Mary Margaret Wiley on June 1, 1962 and he let LBJ keep sleeping with her all the way into the White House years. Mary Margaret Wiley, not Alice Glass and not Madeleine Brown, was LBJ's top all time mistress. Courtenay Lynda Valenti is NOT the biological daughter of Lyndon Johnson (the older she gets the more Courtenay looks like her swarthy father Jack Valenti) BUT LBJ SURE THOUGHT SHE WAS HIS DAUGHTER!!

“Dog Days at the White House: The Outrageous Memoirs of the Presidential Kennel Keeper” by Traphes Bryant on Lyndon Johnson, Courtenay Valenti, Jack Valenti, Mary Margaret Valenti

           “Courtney was the most special child to come to the White House. She absolutely ruled the President and could make him “fetch and carry” any time she wanted to. The President gave special orders to be informed any time she came to see her daddy, LBJ’s special assistant, which was often.

          Courtney’s mother, Mary Margaret, started out as LBJ’s receptionist in his Texas office when he was U.S. senator and then came to Washington as his personal secretary. She was the real beauty of the LBJ gang, and when she came to visit the White House, she rated extra kisses and a real fuss was made over her by the President. The President liked to relax in his office just sitting around talking to Mary Margaret.

          Everyone was amazed when Mary Margaret – who was Mary Margaret Wiley – suddenly married Jack Valenti. Except those who say LBJ engineered the marriage. Maybe he wanted to keep her in the family. To him, Mary Margaret and Courtney were a family.

          Time and time again LBJ would tell me to look out for Courtney. To be good to Courtney. To protect Courtney. To keep Blanco away from Courtney. Once he said, “You let anything happen to Courtney and I’ll hang your hide on the barn door.” In other words, the President liked that child.”

 [Traphes Bryant, Dog Days at the White House: The Outrageous Memoirs of the presidential Kennel Keeper, 123-124]

 “And I read in the newspapers that when LBJ died, with something like $25 million in his estate, he left his brother only a token gift - $25,000.

          That is only a little more than he left Mary Margaret Valenti, mother of his beloved little Courtney, or that he left his trusted secretary Mary Rather.

 [Traphes Bryant, Dog Days at the White House, p. 132]

 The President held up Valenti’s little girl, Courtney, and told her, “Look honey, here comes Bryant, Blanco and Him.” She wanted to play with the dogs. She led Blanco on a leash while I kept an eye on him. I made Blanco sit, and she petted Him. Then she hugged Blanco and called him “Blink.” Her Daddy pointed to the beagle and she said, “Him.” Valenti then pointed to the President and Courtney said, “Prez.” LBJ beamed ear to ear and kissed her nose.

 [Traphes Bryant, Dog Days at the White House, p. 142]

 “As I was taking the pups into the Bouquet Room, President Johnson stopped and petted the pups. I told the President Courtney was playing with the pups but she had just left. The President was furious. “Why didn’t they let me know Courtney was here?”

          He was really upset. “Damn it, I am supposed to be notified.” The President loved Courtney just as much as his own Luci and Lynda Bird – he once called her, “my little girl, my little heartbeat” – and certainly spent more time with her when she was around than with his big, busy daughters.

          On almost any excuse, the President had Valenti or his wife bring Courtney to the White House and the President thoroughly relaxed as he played with the child, catering to her every whim.

 [Traphes Bryant, Dog Days at the White House, p. 155]

 On 2/23/1966:   The President greeted the Veep. Valenti’s secretary told Courtney to go see Daddy, who was on the helicopter. Courtney didn’t see her daddy as she ran toward the President, who lifted her up.

 [Traphes Bryant, Dog Days at the White House, p. 157]

 3/2/1966: Courtney and her pups had their picture made. The President never gets tired of posing with Courtney. I told Mrs. Valenti that I wanted a picture of Courtney, the President, and pups. She said she would get me one.

 [Traphes Bryant, Dog Days at the White House, p. 158]

 4/1/1966  The Prez came out of his office and played with Courtney. Then he took her back in. One of the pups gave her a kiss; she wiped it off her coat. The President gave the dogs some dog candy in his office. Courtney got jealous, closed the candy drawer on the President’s desk, and said, “That’s all.” She didn’t want the pups getting the Prez’s attention.

 [Traphes Bryant, Dog Days at the White House, p. 159]

 Toward the end of Luci’s [wedding] reception, the President got a little wistful because it was almost time for his daughter to leave on her honeymoon. The Prez stood with a bemused look on his face on the Truman Balcony, with little Courtney in his arms, surveying the mob below.

 [Traphes Bryant, Dog Days at the White House, p. 169]

 8/15/1966 The Prez returned from Texas. He held Courtney at the window while they were landing so she could see Blanco and Beagle. The President carried her off the helicopter.

 [Traphes Bryant, Dog Days at the White House, p. 170]

 3/12/67 Now the dogs have two doghouses with electric heat and a floodlight. The Prez showed it all to little Courtney. Courtney liked it. LBJ liked it.

 [Traphes Bryant, Dog Days at the White House, p. 179]

 I realized I was stuck with Blanco and that I would have to protect everyone from the dog, especially Lyndon’s beloved Courtney. Luckily, little Courtney somehow had gotten through to Blanco, and she was about the only one besides Luci who could lead him around by the nose. I think Blanco liked Courtney almost as much as the President did. But I still watched the two pretty carefully as they romped about, remembering Lyndon’s warning that if anything happened to that little girl, he’d have my hide on the barn door. He would have, too.

 [Traphes Bryant, Dog Days at the White House, p. 187-188]

Mary Margaret Wiley, close LBJ aide/girlfriend, at the 1960 Democratic convention – later married Jack Valenti

                 

JACK VALENTI:

 “As befitted my role of spear carrier at that time, I was not mingling with LBJ, Sam Rayburn, John Connally, or any other big shots. Mary Margaret, my future wife, was there with Mrs. Johnson, in the majority leader’s suite. She was privy to some fascinating pieces of history as LBJ greeted Sam Rayburn, senators, congressmen, and other luminaries including Philip Graham, publisher of the Washington Post and a Johnson supporter.

          I sat with other serfs and vassals in front of the TV set up in a large room for those working on the outer edges of the Johnson campaign. The TV announcer told us that Johnson had accepted an offer from JFK as his choice for the second spot. It had a stunning impact on the nation and most emphatically on the Texas delegation. I was caught by surprise – mind-boggled might be more accurate.”

[Jack Valenti, This Place, This Time, p. 65] 

Lyndon Johnson and Mary Margaret Wiley, as told by Air Force One (and Two) pilot Col. Ralph Albertazzie

 

            "Nor did Johnson make an effort to hide his fondness for the company of Mary Margaret Wiley, a pretty secretary who later married another LBJ aide, Jack Valenti. Johnson simply assumed that everybody understood his love for Lady Bird, and hers for him. Since there was no question about that in his own mind, he did not expect that people would see anything amiss with the flirtatious attention he delighted in paying other women. Lady Bird, secure in her own relationship with him, tolerated it all with rare good nature and some amusement.

          On one occasion, what normally would have been a quick overnight flight out of Washington unexpectedly turned into a three-day safari. It was a classic example of Johnsonian whim.

          Johnson had flown to Kansas City, Missouri, to address a Democratic fund-raising dinner. Since it was supposed to be a quick trip, only a handful of persons accompanied him: an ever-present pair of Secret Service agents, a military aide, and secretary Mary Margaret Wiley. Shortly after LBJ's arrival, a fire broke out in the kitchen of the hotel where the dinner was to be held, forcing cancellation of the event.

          Albertazzie, who had given his crew the night off, heard about the blaze on a radio newscast while visiting friends in Kansas City. He hustled back to the airport, rounded up the crew, and hurriedly made preparations for what he supposed would be an immediate return to Washington.

          As soon as Johnson and the others were aboard, Albertazzie started the engines, activated his Washington-bound flight plan, and contacted the tower. The plane was already taxiing to the runway when a hand tapped his shoulder. It was LBJ's Air Force aide. The Vice President, he said, didn't want to go back to Washington. He wanted to go to the ranch instead.

          So they flew to Texas, landing at Bergsrom Air Force Base outside Austin. Johnson and his companions drove to the LBJ ranch. Albertazzie and the crew stayed on the base, since Johnson had said he wanted to fly back to Washington early the next day.

          Everything was in readiness the following morning, but departure time came and went - and no Johnson. Finally, Albertazzie got a call from the ranch from Stuart Knight, LBJ's senior agent who later became Secret Service director. "The man doesn't want to go to Washington," Knight said. "He wants to go to New York. He says he and Mary Margaret are going to see 'Death of a Salesman' on Broadway, then they are going to have dinner, and then we'll fly home after that."

          The visit of a President or Vice President to New York City is a formidable undertaking even when it is unofficial. The city's politicians like to put on a good show and, of course, Manhattan's traffic has to be surmounted. That requires a substantial police motorcycle escort, the blocking of ramps and side streets, much flashing of red lights and the blowing of sirens. Then there is the matter of security, so extraordinary precautions have to be taken, including the placement of policemen on all the bridges and at key points along the route from the airport to the heart of the city.

          New York's finest were all over Idlewild and the parkway when Air Force Two swooped in for LBJ's theatre date. The crew stayed aboard, since it would only be a matter of a few hours before the plane would be on its way to Washington.

          "Ten o'clock came, eleven o'clock came, and still no word," Albertazzie recalled. "Finally, about midnight, I heard from Stu Knight. The Vice President, he said, had decided to stay in New York overnight and would go to Washington the first thing in the morning ... about nine A.M."

          So the cops were dismissed, and the crew and I moved the plane over to the Lockheed area for security and buttoned up for the night. We finally located some motel rooms and got to bed about 1:30 A.M. We were up again at 5:30 so we could get back to the plane and get it ready for departure at nine o'clock.

          "Well, nine o'clock came and went and no sign of LBJ. About eleven o'clock, I located Stu Knight and asked, "What's happening?"

          "'I don't know,' Stu said. 'Right now, the man is getting his hair cut. Then I think he is going to eat lunch. So it'll be some time after that before we get out of here. I'll call you if I find out.'"

          Late in the afternoon, Albertazzie thought he detected increased police activity around the airport. Sure enough, about five o'clock, a motorcade with flashing red lights swept into view and stopped on the tarmac beside the plane. It was LBJ, along with Mary Margaret and the three aides. Albertazzie and the crew almost cheered.

          Twenty minutes later, the plane was in the skies heading back to Washington. Johnson sent word up to the cockpit to "pour on the coal." He had a seven P.M. engagement and didn't want to be late.

 [J.F. terHorst and Col. Ralph Albertazzie, The Flying White House: The Story of Air Force One, pp. 207-209]

 

 

 

 

 

 

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59 minutes ago, Jim Rose said:

So how'd it go?

Corey likes to comment his content on James DiEugenio's twitter links, give it a watch for yourself: 

 

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