William Kelly Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 LEE ODOM, P.O. Box 19106, Dallas Texas From On The Trail of the Assassins (p. 170) Jim Garrison. From Clay Shaw’s notebook : “LEE ODOM, P.O. Box 19106, Dallas Texas” “…this odd tem was revealed publicly when Shaw’s attorneys sought to have the address book returned to him. Our office opposed this move, and in our written opposition we called attention to an interesting fact: The citation of “P.O. 19106” appeared in Lee Oswald’s address book as well as Shaw’s.” “After several days of silence, Shaw’s attorneys produced a man named Lee Odom, who at that time rented post office box number 174 in Irving, a suburb of Dallas. He stated that he was from Dallas and that, while P.O. Box 19106 had never been in his name, it had been used for several months by a barbeque company with which he was once associated.” “Shaw’s attorneys,…picked it up from there and explained that Odom had once met Clay Shaw to discuss the possibility of promoting a bullfight in New Orleans.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Richards Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 Bill, If I remember correctly, Garrison claimed that the box number 19106, could be decoded to reveal Jack Ruby's unlisted Dallas telephone number. Odum was quoted as saying, "That is the silliest thing I have ever heard of." Odum made the following claims; that he met Shaw in New Orleans in November of 1966 and had lunch at Pat O'Brien's. They discussed putting on a bullfight. They were together about 1 hour and there was no contact with Shaw before or after that. He claimed he gave Shaw his box number and Shaw gave him his business card but no further contact was made. Odum said he met Shaw through Andy Anderson, who was the manager of the Roosevelt Hotel in New Orleans. Odum also claimed he had no idea why the box number was in Oswald's notebook and that he did not know the man named by the Warren Commission as Kennedy's assassin. FWIW. James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Howard Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 Bill,If I remember correctly, Garrison claimed that the box number 19106, could be decoded to reveal Jack Ruby's unlisted Dallas telephone number. Odum was quoted as saying, "That is the silliest thing I have ever heard of." Odum made the following claims; that he met Shaw in New Orleans in November of 1966 and had lunch at Pat O'Brien's. They discussed putting on a bullfight. They were together about 1 hour and there was no contact with Shaw before or after that. He claimed he gave Shaw his box number and Shaw gave him his business card but no further contact was made. Odum said he met Shaw through Andy Anderson, who was the manager of the Roosevelt Hotel in New Orleans. Odum also claimed he had no idea why the box number was in Oswald's notebook and that he did not know the man named by the Warren Commission as Kennedy's assassin. FWIW. James In the City of Dallas JFK Collection, [http://www.jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/ ]there are a few articles from the time that reference the [something of an ongoing] story, it would be a matter of speculation, on my part but I have never seen anything to give credence to Jim's views on this, and I am not a Garrison detractor, by any means. However I would love to be proved wrong. Even Lee Odum in newspaper articles, seemed more than glad to assist Jim. FWIW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francesca Akhtar Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 In the City of Dallas JFK Collection, [http://www.jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/ ]there are a few articles from the time that reference the [something of an ongoing] story, it would be a matter of speculation, on my part but I have never seen anything to give credence to Jim's views on this, and I am not a Garrison detractor, by any means. However I would love to be proved wrong. Even Lee Odum in newspaper articles, seemed more than glad to assist Jim. FWIW. Yes I'm not sure he was correct on this. According to a publication by Anthony Frewin, in Lee Harvey Oswald's address book was also written the number 19106 but it was preceded by some Cyrillic characters which led Garrison to believe it could be some kind of code, possibly standing for 'P.O. Box' but there is no evidence to substantiate this theory. Also, in 1963 Dallas had not yet acquired a post office box number that high, so Oswald could not have had a post office box with that number. It seems to me though that it is a suspicious coincidence to have exactly the same number written in Oswald's book too, but without knowing the significance of the Cyrillic characters, it's impossible to tell exactly what this entry means, I'm not so sure though I believe this 'Lee Odom' that Shaw's lawyers managed to convienantly produce. According to Richard Billings journal, Garrison's office later received a tip via telephone from an anonymous man in Dallas, who claimed that he received ten letters, all from the Junior Chamber of Commerce, each bearing the return address of P.O. Box 19106. The man said he had received these letters during the period when 'Lee Odom' was the alleged holder of the post office box. Still to figure out what it all means! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Howard Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 In the City of Dallas JFK Collection, [http://www.jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/ ]there are a few articles from the time that reference the [something of an ongoing] story, it would be a matter of speculation, on my part but I have never seen anything to give credence to Jim's views on this, and I am not a Garrison detractor, by any means. However I would love to be proved wrong. Even Lee Odum in newspaper articles, seemed more than glad to assist Jim. FWIW. Yes I'm not sure he was correct on this. According to a publication by Anthony Frewin, in Lee Harvey Oswald's address book was also written the number 19106 but it was preceded by some Cyrillic characters which led Garrison to believe it could be some kind of code, possibly standing for 'P.O. Box' but there is no evidence to substantiate this theory. Also, in 1963 Dallas had not yet acquired a post office box number that high, so Oswald could not have had a post office box with that number. It seems to me though that it is a suspicious coincidence to have exactly the same number written in Oswald's book too, but without knowing the significance of the Cyrillic characters, it's impossible to tell exactly what this entry means, I'm not so sure though I believe this 'Lee Odom' that Shaw's lawyers managed to convienantly produce. According to Richard Billings journal, Garrison's office later received a tip via telephone from an anonymous man in Dallas, who claimed that he received ten letters, all from the Junior Chamber of Commerce, each bearing the return address of P.O. Box 19106. The man said he had received these letters during the period when 'Lee Odom' was the alleged holder of the post office box. Still to figure out what it all means! I am glad that you posted this Francesca; as with many items on this subject things are not alway's as simple as they appear. I definitely did not intend to discount the story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francesca Akhtar Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 I am glad that you posted this Francesca; as with many items on this subject things are not alway's as simple as they appear. I definitely did not intend to discount the story. Yes, it's a strange story - I was wondering if this Lee Odom could be something to do with the John Odom who was in the CAP with Oswald. Pure speculation, because of the same surname but I can't seem to find out much more about John Odom to try and prove or disprove the theory. I just have a tendency not to trust any witness or 'evidence' produced by Shaw's defense team in light of the tactics they used to help Shaw during the trial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dolva Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 oswalds address book : WH16_CE_18.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Howard Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 (edited) oswalds address book : WH16_CE_18.pdf Interesting image to say the least. I did find some material about PO Box 19106 and Lee Odom. "We know on our own information, and later, my check with Holland McCombs, that Oswald is known to have had two post office boxes listed under his name, or names recognized as his affiliations while in Dallas. The first of these, Box 2915, was rented from the main Post Office from Oct. 9, 1962, until May 14, 1963. The second, Box 6225 in the Terminal Annex Post Office, was the one rented from Nov. 1, 1963, until Oswald's death. It was in this box that he received correspondence with the Russian Embassy in Washington under the name of Lee Harvey Oswald. Discussing the boxes again with Garrison, he suggested that if there was no such box as 19106 in 1963, which there was not, then it must have been some kind of code, and he [is] now proceeding to decipher the possibility of a code. He also suggests the possibility that the box could have been a CIA front; it could have been a box used temporarily by the CIA -- but nevertheless, Garrison does suspect that involvement." from 'Richard Billing's New Orleans Journal.' http://www.jfk-onlin.../billings5.html SUBJECT CRIMINAL INTELLIGENCE PO BOX 19106 Dear Sir: Recent newspaper articles regarding DISTRICT ATTORNEY GARRISON of NEW ORLEANS, LOUISIANA, have revealed that SUBJECT was the P.O. BOX used by LEE OSWALD under the name of LEE ODOM while he was in Dallas. Information has been received that SUBJECT has the following listings. Original listing of the box was on 1 July 1965 and was ended on 14, July 1966 and was in the name of ADOBE ASSOCIATES. The renters for this box were ARNOLD CAVAZOS, 621 HEMBRICK STREET and C.J. CZAJKOWSKI 2965 SILVERTOWN STREET in the name of Lee Odom The second listing of SUBJECT was started on 21 July 1966 closed on 11 January 1967 and was in the name of L &R Barbeque with two addresses of 2612 DOUGLAS STREET. and 4040 CEDAR SPRINGS in the name of Lee Odom. 2612 DOUGLAS STREET is an apartment house and 4040 CEDAR SPRINGS is the STOP N’GO GROCERY. The third and final listing of SUBJECT was started on 1 MARCH 1967 is still open and is rented to TEL-TEK Electronics, a sales organization for RECORD O Phones. This box is in the name of HARRY WILKIN, 3314 MOTOR STREET and was rented by ANNA L. HERRING, secretary of this company. Rerspectfully Submitted W.S. Biggio Detective Criminal Intelligence Section http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/box18.htm The Dallas Morning News ran a story regarding Garrison, Shaw and Lee Odom on 5-19-1967 Odom Calls Theory of Garrison Silly After all these years the whole issue of a secret code was an embarrassment to Garrison, who never went anywhere with his charge....Although a CIA document did respond to the allegation http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=10094&relPageId=52 In retrospect, about the only noteworthy item, I was able to determine was that the 31-year old Odom stated he had met Shaw through an "Andy Anderson, the manager of the Roosevelt Hotel in New Orleans." What made that noteworthy? ANDERSON, HUGH H. "ANDY" Sources: WC 14 (604); WC 22 (502); WC 26 (550); CD 105, p. 31; CD 4, p. 482; CD 1149 (3); JFK Collection List, pg. 50 (AMKW 88) Mary's Comments: Manager, Adolphus Hotel, 1957 until 1964, where Breck Wall and Joe Peterson produced musical "Bottoms Up." George Senator patronized Burgundy Room and King's Club, both in Adolphus. Anderson had pass #136 to Carousel Club. Transferred to New Orleans' Roosevelt Hotel in 1964; returned to Adolphus in 1977 and stayed until 1979. Died Fri., 9/26/80, at his home in Lewisville, TX. [Tel-Tek Electronics phone number was LA8-2352] DMN Classifieds page 9; June 6,1965 Robert: there are at least 2 documents with A.F. CZAJKOWSKI in the to/from field 104-10244-10164 and 104-10070-10265 AGENCY : CIA RECORD NUMBER : 104-10244-10164 RECORDS SERIES : JFK AGENCY FILE NUMBER : 80T01357A DOCUMENT INFORMATION ORIGINATOR : CIA FROM : BALOG TO : CZAJKOWSKI TITLE : CABLE: CASE 40,556 (CLOSED) - - CLEMARD CHARLES OF HAITI AND GEORGES DE MOHRENSHILDT DATE : 11/24/1964 PAGES : 2 DOCUMENT TYPE : PAPER - TEXTUAL DOCUMENT SUBJECTS : DEMOHRENSCHILDT CLASSIFICATION : SECRET RESTRICTIONS : OPEN IN FULL CURRENT STATUS : OPEN DATE OF LAST REVIEW : 06/03/1998 COMMENTS : JFK64-5 : F15 : 1998.06.03.13:32:49:483128 : Changing gears a little......... This is a very brief segment of one of the documents, just to illustrate the Cziakowski name. BTW If the person Dorothe Matlack is referencing is not George DeMohrenschildt, I would be very surprised ON 29 APRIL 1963 DOROTHE MATLACK TELEPHONED TO THE EFFECT THAT.. she was of the opinion that continue the U S government should continue to play ball with [redacted] as a future asset in Haitian affairs. Signed A F CZAJKOWSKI http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=61911&relPageId=5 Deceased Name: Albin F. Czajkowski , 86; was Lieutenant Colonel Albin F. Czajkowski, 86, of this city, who rose to Lieutenant Colonel in the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, died Oct. 5 in Arlington, Va., where he had lived for the past 53 years. Born in Easthampton, he graduated from Easthampton High School. After graduating, he helped his parents manage their store until 1935, when he enlisted in the 3rd U.S. Cavalry regiment stationed at Ft. Ethan Allen, Vt. Upon completing a three-year tour of duty in June, 1938, he moved to Washington, D.C., where he worked at the U.S. Government Printing Office while attending Georgetown University School of Foreign Service. He graduated from that university in 1948, after interrupting his education to serve in the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers for the duration of World War II. During the war, he served as an engineer supply officer in England and Continental Europe, taking part in the campaigns of Northern France, Central Europe and the Rhineland and rising to the rank of captain. For his service, he earned the European-African-Middle Eastern Campaign Medal with three bronze battle stars, the American Campaign Medal and the Army Occupation Medal for service in Germany. After the war, he transferred to the Army Reserves and continued to work with the Corps of Engineers in various capacities at the Pentagon and Ft. Belvoir in Alexandria, Va. He retired as Lieutenant Colonel in 1974. In retirement, he managed the Officers' Service Club, a private social club in Washington, D.C. He was a volunteer mentor to young people, particularly recent immigrants. He leaves his sister, Bertha C. Zahn of Arlington, Va.; two nephews, Donald Cykowski of Easthampton and Stephen Cykowski of Richmond, Va.; three nieces, Elizabeth Zahn Muchnick of Arlington, Va., Marilyn Zahn Cheek, of Warrenton, Va., and Ellen Cykowski Sortore of Roanoke, Va. The interment with full military honors will take place Thursday in Arlington National Cemetery, Arlington, Va. Northern Virginia Funeral Services, Chantilly, is in charge. END Personally, I believe the odds are pretty good Albin F. Cziakowski, was more than likely the government official to pen the two documents listed at NARA, which have both been declassified. And if there was ever a time to settle the issue of the "code," or perhaps more importantly, whether Lee Odom was anything more than a passing figure in post-assassination history, there probably would not be a better time. Edited February 9, 2011 by Robert Howard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Bennett Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 Given that his wife Mary Francis Odom had foreknowledge of the assassination, Lee Odom certainly seems like more than a passing figure. "They are going to do something terrible to the president when he comes to Dallas today." Mary Francis Odom, speaking to Patrolman Mc Millan in Ardmore, Oklahoma between 1:30am and 2:00am on Nov. 22, 1963 http://digitalcollections.baylor.edu/cdm/compoundobject/collection/po-arm/id/23556/rec/33 -Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hogan Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Given that his wife Mary Francis Odom had foreknowledge of the assassination, Lee Odom certainly seems like more than a passing figure. "They are going to do something terrible to the president when he comes to Dallas today." Mary Francis Odom, speaking to Patrolman Mc Millan in Ardmore, Oklahoma between 1:30am and 2:00am on Nov. 22, 1963 http://digitalcollec...id/23556/rec/33 -Chris Chris, the Mary Frances Odom in that report was not the wife of Lee Odom. At least that's what I got from reading it. It's on the last page of that folder you linked to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Bennett Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Ah, my mistake. Thanks for pointing that out, Michael. I made an incorrect assumption there. Strange coincidence, still. -Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Kelly Posted January 29, 2013 Author Share Posted January 29, 2013 Given that his wife Mary Francis Odom had foreknowledge of the assassination, Lee Odom certainly seems like more than a passing figure. "They are going to do something terrible to the president when he comes to Dallas today." Mary Francis Odom, speaking to Patrolman Mc Millan in Ardmore, Oklahoma between 1:30am and 2:00am on Nov. 22, 1963 http://digitalcollec...id/23556/rec/33 -Chris Chris, the Mary Frances Odom in that report was not the wife of Lee Odom. At least that's what I got from reading it. It's on the last page of that folder you linked to. Yea, but its an interesting story. Oswald did attend a bullfight in Mexico City and reportedly mingled with the American bullfighter at the Luna Hotel. Mary Francis Odum did express foreknowledge of the assassination and her story seems similar to a number of other women, ala Rose Cheramine. And Bob Sirkin, the TV reporter is the same guy who accompanied Bill O'Rielly when he attempted to interview DeMohrenschildt. See; Comments - JFKcountercoup: Gaeton Fonzi RIP also at: JFKCountercoup2: Bob Sirkin and Bill O"Reilly and George deMohrenschildt BK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Kelly Posted January 29, 2013 Author Share Posted January 29, 2013 (edited) Apparently Mary Francis Odum married Harry Frazer. Both have passed. Here's an interesting list from Hood College Library. Can anyone identify what this list is because Lee Odom and Mary Francis are next to each other. Is it an index to one of Harold's books? Odom, Lee, P.O. Box, Dallas, TX 1/76 89-43-9752, p. 8 Odom, Mary Frances, 211 West French Place, San Antonio, TX 1/76 89-43-9753, p. 2 Cherbourg Square Apt., 7834 Broadway, San Antonio, TX, WF 4/8/17, Pearsall, TX, SOC 462-14-4707 Odom, Mary Francis, 211 West French Place, San Antonio, TX 1/7689-43-9752, p. 3 2/76 89-43-9758 O'Doherty, Frances, Omaga, Ireland 1/64 100-10461-313, p. 6 O'Doherty, Gene 11/63 89-43-684 89-43-2734, p. 247 O'Doherty, John, Deceased 1/64 100-10461-313, p. 6 O'Doherty, John K., River Forrest, Chicago, IL 1/64 100-10461-313, p. 6 O'Doherty, Katherline, Deceased 1/64 100-10461-313, p. 6 O'Doherty, Vincent 11/63 89-43-2481 O'Doherty, Vincent J. 11/63 89-43-862 O'Doherty, Vincent Joseph, DOB: 5/19/18, 11/63 89-43-603, p. 3 POB: Lifford, Ireland, 5'11", 150 lbs 89-43-862 89-43-2734 12/63 100-10461-1074, p. 1............................... Edited January 29, 2013 by William Kelly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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