Thomas H. Purvis Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 (edited) What should be "seemingly obvious" to anyone who even pretends to know anything about bullets, would be the intentional removal of the base of the copper jacket to CE399, as well as the absolute and ultimate necessity to alter this evidence in order to attempt to prevent anyone from ever observing the anomaly of the copper jacket at the bullet base and thereafter questioning exactly what did this bullet penetrate that exerted so much external force on the copper jacket that it forced the copper jacket backwards (stretched it) towards the base of the bullet. Personally, I have no reason to believe that ce399 was fired from the MC that day. The bullet was not recovered from within anyone's body. How frequently do bullets fall out of wounds? 1 in a million maybe? Generally, surgeons cut away tissue while searching for and removing bullets. It is incredible, in my way of thinking, that ce399 was ever entered into evidence. Talk about wasting time!? The scenario..."This bullet was found on a stretcher, I'm not sure whose stretcher it was, in a hallway, in the hospital. It must have come from the Presidents' back, uh..no...wait a sec...maybe it was from the Gov.'s leg? Well anyway...it was used in the assassination, right?!?" HINT!The back entry wound of JFK was extremely shallow! The back entry wound of JFK measured 4mm X 7mm in dimension, with the 7mm dimension being the horizontal measurement as opposed to the vertical measurement. The back entry wound of JFK had relatively "clean-cut" edges. The back wound of JFK had considerable fabric from his coat and shirt carried down into the wound by the entering bullet. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CE399 Had a base that was deformed to 4mm X 7mm in size. Had a base that although flat, had a somewhat raised "lip" to the copper jacket around the circumference of the base of the bullet as a result of the external pressure which had been exerted onto the copper jacket of the bullet. This "lip" created a relatively sharp edge at the base of the bullet.* ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lastly, most first graders know how to place the correct peg into the correct size/and shape hole. *P.S. This also has a lot to do with the WHY? was the copper jacket which normally covers the base of the bullet, removed. What should be "seemingly obvious" to anyone who even pretends to know anything about bullets, would be the intentional removal of the base of the copper jacket to CE399, as well as the absolute and ultimate necessity to alter this evidence in order to attempt to prevent anyone from ever observing the anomaly of the copper jacket at the bullet base and thereafter questioning exactly what did this bullet penetrate that exerted so much external force on the copper jacket that it forced the copper jacket backwards (stretched it) towards the base of the bullet. Personally, I have no reason to believe that ce399 was fired from the MC that day. The bullet was not recovered from within anyone's body. How frequently do bullets fall out of wounds? 1 in a million maybe? Generally, surgeons cut away tissue while searching for and removing bullets. It is incredible, in my way of thinking, that ce399 was ever entered into evidence. Talk about wasting time!? The scenario..."This bullet was found on a stretcher, I'm not sure whose stretcher it was, in a hallway, in the hospital. It must have come from the Presidents' back, uh..no...wait a sec...maybe it was from the Gov.'s leg? Well anyway...it was used in the assassination, right?!?" HINT!The back entry wound of JFK was extremely shallow! The back entry wound of JFK measured 4mm X 7mm in dimension, with the 7mm dimension being the horizontal measurement as opposed to the vertical measurement. The back entry wound of JFK had relatively "clean-cut" edges. The back wound of JFK had considerable fabric from his coat and shirt carried down into the wound by the entering bullet. Forgot to add: Dr. Boswell clearly referred to the entry wound as being an "atypical" wound. As in NOT TYPICAL! And of course, many others have referred to the "punch type" entry into the back of JFK as well. Which is of course understandable since Dr. Humes in his "second generation" handwritten notes originally wrote about the "7 X 4 mm oval puncture wound". http://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/...Vol17_0030a.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CE399 Had a base that was deformed to 4mm X 7mm in size. Had a base that although flat, had a somewhat raised "lip" to the copper jacket around the circumference of the base of the bullet as a result of the external pressure which had been exerted onto the copper jacket of the bullet. This "lip" created a relatively sharp edge at the base of the bullet.* ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lastly, most first graders know how to place the correct peg into the correct size/and shape hole. *P.S. This also has a lot to do with the WHY? was the copper jacket which normally covers the base of the bullet, removed. Lastly! Please excuse if these posts are being repeated. Each time I hit the "Add Reply" button, I get a response which is in the Japanese Language, as if I were sending these replys to the "Japan Forum".. What should be "seemingly obvious" to anyone who even pretends to know anything about bullets, would be the intentional removal of the base of the copper jacket to CE399, as well as the absolute and ultimate necessity to alter this evidence in order to attempt to prevent anyone from ever observing the anomaly of the copper jacket at the bullet base and thereafter questioning exactly what did this bullet penetrate that exerted so much external force on the copper jacket that it forced the copper jacket backwards (stretched it) towards the base of the bullet. What should be "seemingly obvious" to anyone who even pretends to know anything about bullets, would be the intentional removal of the base of the copper jacket to CE399, as well as the absolute and ultimate necessity to alter this evidence in order to attempt to prevent anyone from ever observing the anomaly of the copper jacket at the bullet base and thereafter questioning exactly what did this bullet penetrate that exerted so much external force on the copper jacket that it forced the copper jacket backwards (stretched it) towards the base of the bullet. Edited November 17, 2006 by Thomas H. Purvis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Thomas H. Purvis Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 What should be "seemingly obvious" to anyone who even pretends to know anything about bullets, would be the intentional removal of the base of the copper jacket to CE399, as well as the absolute and ultimate necessity to alter this evidence in order to attempt to prevent anyone from ever observing the anomaly of the copper jacket at the bullet base and thereafter questioning exactly what did this bullet penetrate that exerted so much external force on the copper jacket that it forced the copper jacket backwards (stretched it) towards the base of the bullet. Personally, I have no reason to believe that ce399 was fired from the MC that day. The bullet was not recovered from within anyone's body. How frequently do bullets fall out of wounds? 1 in a million maybe? Generally, surgeons cut away tissue while searching for and removing bullets. It is incredible, in my way of thinking, that ce399 was ever entered into evidence. Talk about wasting time!? The scenario..."This bullet was found on a stretcher, I'm not sure whose stretcher it was, in a hallway, in the hospital. It must have come from the Presidents' back, uh..no...wait a sec...maybe it was from the Gov.'s leg? Well anyway...it was used in the assassination, right?!?" HINT!The back entry wound of JFK was extremely shallow! The back entry wound of JFK measured 4mm X 7mm in dimension, with the 7mm dimension being the horizontal measurement as opposed to the vertical measurement. The back entry wound of JFK had relatively "clean-cut" edges. The back wound of JFK had considerable fabric from his coat and shirt carried down into the wound by the entering bullet. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CE399 Had a base that was deformed to 4mm X 7mm in size. Had a base that although flat, had a somewhat raised "lip" to the copper jacket around the circumference of the base of the bullet as a result of the external pressure which had been exerted onto the copper jacket of the bullet. This "lip" created a relatively sharp edge at the base of the bullet.* ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lastly, most first graders know how to place the correct peg into the correct size/and shape hole. *P.S. This also has a lot to do with the WHY? was the copper jacket which normally covers the base of the bullet, removed. What should be "seemingly obvious" to anyone who even pretends to know anything about bullets, would be the intentional removal of the base of the copper jacket to CE399, as well as the absolute and ultimate necessity to alter this evidence in order to attempt to prevent anyone from ever observing the anomaly of the copper jacket at the bullet base and thereafter questioning exactly what did this bullet penetrate that exerted so much external force on the copper jacket that it forced the copper jacket backwards (stretched it) towards the base of the bullet. Personally, I have no reason to believe that ce399 was fired from the MC that day. The bullet was not recovered from within anyone's body. How frequently do bullets fall out of wounds? 1 in a million maybe? Generally, surgeons cut away tissue while searching for and removing bullets. It is incredible, in my way of thinking, that ce399 was ever entered into evidence. Talk about wasting time!? The scenario..."This bullet was found on a stretcher, I'm not sure whose stretcher it was, in a hallway, in the hospital. It must have come from the Presidents' back, uh..no...wait a sec...maybe it was from the Gov.'s leg? Well anyway...it was used in the assassination, right?!?" HINT!The back entry wound of JFK was extremely shallow! The back entry wound of JFK measured 4mm X 7mm in dimension, with the 7mm dimension being the horizontal measurement as opposed to the vertical measurement. The back entry wound of JFK had relatively "clean-cut" edges. The back wound of JFK had considerable fabric from his coat and shirt carried down into the wound by the entering bullet. Forgot to add: Dr. Boswell clearly referred to the entry wound as being an "atypical" wound. As in NOT TYPICAL! And of course, many others have referred to the "punch type" entry into the back of JFK as well. Which is of course understandable since Dr. Humes in his "second generation" handwritten notes originally wrote about the "7 X 4 mm oval puncture wound". http://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/...Vol17_0030a.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CE399 Had a base that was deformed to 4mm X 7mm in size. Had a base that although flat, had a somewhat raised "lip" to the copper jacket around the circumference of the base of the bullet as a result of the external pressure which had been exerted onto the copper jacket of the bullet. This "lip" created a relatively sharp edge at the base of the bullet.* ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lastly, most first graders know how to place the correct peg into the correct size/and shape hole. *P.S. This also has a lot to do with the WHY? was the copper jacket which normally covers the base of the bullet, removed. Lastly! Please excuse if these posts are being repeated. Each time I hit the "Add Reply" button, I get a response which is in the Japanese Language, as if I were sending these replys to the "Japan Forum".. What should be "seemingly obvious" to anyone who even pretends to know anything about bullets, would be the intentional removal of the base of the copper jacket to CE399, as well as the absolute and ultimate necessity to alter this evidence in order to attempt to prevent anyone from ever observing the anomaly of the copper jacket at the bullet base and thereafter questioning exactly what did this bullet penetrate that exerted so much external force on the copper jacket that it forced the copper jacket backwards (stretched it) towards the base of the bullet. What should be "seemingly obvious" to anyone who even pretends to know anything about bullets, would be the intentional removal of the base of the copper jacket to CE399, as well as the absolute and ultimate necessity to alter this evidence in order to attempt to prevent anyone from ever observing the anomaly of the copper jacket at the bullet base and thereafter questioning exactly what did this bullet penetrate that exerted so much external force on the copper jacket that it forced the copper jacket backwards (stretched it) towards the base of the bullet. http://www.jfklancer.com/photos/Autopsy_photos/BE5_HI.JPG Now, what should be "seemingly obvious" is the fact that the 4mm X 7mm "Peg", goes into the 4mm X 7mm hole. And, due to the relatively sharp edges of the copper jacket around the circumference to the "peg", which was created by the copper jacket being stretched backwards along it's outer surface, we now have a 4mm X 7mm hole which has relatively clean-cut edges as well as the fact that the flat base of the bullet removed considerably fabric from the coat and shirt of JFK and carried this materials down into the wound of entry. Actually, most pre-schoolers down here in the South could have recognized that: Round Peg--------Round Hole Square Peg--------Square Hole Triangle Peg-------Trianguler Hole 4mm X 7mm Peg--------4mm X 7mm hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David S. Brownlee Posted November 18, 2006 Author Share Posted November 18, 2006 (edited) OK T.H.P....I apologize for being a bit of a pain earlier on this thread. You make decent (although somewhat "miraculous") points. The MLCC jacketed bullet was not the same as a modern combat round - and the jacketing was likley thicker - therefore allowing it to stay relatively intact even when going through more than flesh. IMO the lead inside would still outrun the jacket if it had to go through enough tree to bend it's trajectory upwards and outwards around 40 degrees, but I can't shoot a MLCC so I can't prove that. Obviously I've never shot a 6.5 MLCC....my experience is more with true high powers (7mm Mag - .270 W)...as far as medium powers we have all shot 30-30s...though they are even less powerful as far as muzzle velocity..than the MLCC. In my experience (without looking anything up)...the following is a pretty decent ballistics breakdown of popular calibres that have been in production since the early 1960's (and most well before): 7mm Mag. - muzzle velocity 3000 fps+ depending on bullet weight .270 W (my fav round) - nearly the same...2850 or so but hitting 3000 fps with a lighter bullet. 30.06 - 2800 with a 150 grain bullet .240 (British) Weatherby - a rocket ship...3400 plus fps at the muzzle .257 Weatherby - also a rocket ship with heavier bullet...3000+ SKS or AK-47 - 2400 fps out of the muzzle with a 125 grain bullet MLCC - 2200 to 2450 fps. 30-30 - 1250 to 1600 depending on bullet weight. ...below that (mostly .22) - around 1200 fps at the muzzle. OK so it's plain that bullet velocity versus weight versus how that bullet can get enough of a ricochet is key. Can it change direction around 40 degrees and go over and bust out a piece of concrete - part of that concrete of which will have the force to penetrate a bystanders's facial skin? A small calibre bullet changes direction easier than a big one - it still loses velocity - but it could change direction off of a tree limb - maybe penetrating only a few mms. A larger high velocity round would have to hit something very serious and would seriously penetrate before being bounced off at such an angle - likely a 6+ inch branch or a tree trunk. It would require that kind of inertia from the tree to thrust it in the other direction. That penetration would bust the bullet up pretty bad and shatter the tree limb - it (the tree limb) would either drop on it's own or be hanging - either way - fast moving wood shrapnel would rain down upon anyone underneath. A medium high powered round like the MLCC would have two possibilities (IMO) in the realm of physics/ballistics. It could either bust up on impact and become a low velocity tumbler bullet which couldn't possibly do much of anything - or it could power through and keep relatively decent speed (maybe down 1000 fps which would make it the equivallent of a heavy .22). If the latter were the case it would also rain down wooden splinters on all below the impact...and not a light dusting...those splinters would have the transferred force to also break skin. ...and of course the velocity would then be so reduced that it really couldn't take out a chunk of concrete and spray up debris with enough power to hurt a bystander with a bit of that debris. So the possibility of a ricochet from the MLCC causing the injury to the bystander (who just happened to be directly in the line of fire from the Dal-Tex building) is beyond miniscule....see Occam's Razor....TKS Edited November 18, 2006 by David S. Brownlee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David S. Brownlee Posted November 18, 2006 Author Share Posted November 18, 2006 (edited) How many people were under the tree that the "ricochet" wood shrapnel would have hit? Who was under the tree? (and forward a bit) Were there any comments or wounds? I don't mean to be a pain - but bullets of (at least medium size) don't hit trees and then change trajectories around 40 degrees in angle without leaving something behind. The energy transfer would have left wood splinters which would have impacted all folks under the tree. People would have been coming forth with stuff like - look at my hat!?! It has a piece of wood in it and I felt it hitting me. Edited November 18, 2006 by David S. Brownlee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David S. Brownlee Posted November 18, 2006 Author Share Posted November 18, 2006 (edited) [quote name=The key for me though is the lack of a shot by a "single assassin" when the motorcade was coming straight at the 6th floor window of the TSBD (after the turn). Why on earth would a single assassin pass up a shot like that? The assassin should obviously recess himself/herself back from the window to prevent a gun barrel from showing - and then take the shot when it was the easiest (and least dangerous to others and best to provide a possible second and even easier shot as the motorcade approached Edited November 18, 2006 by David S. Brownlee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas H. Purvis Posted November 18, 2006 Share Posted November 18, 2006 How many people were under the tree that the "ricochet" wood shrapnel would have hit? Who was under the tree? (and forward a bit)Were there any comments or wounds? I don't mean to be a pain - but bullets of (at least medium size) don't hit trees and then change trajectories around 40 degrees in angle without leaving something behind. The energy transfer would have left wood splinters which would have impacted all folks under the tree. People would have been coming forth with stuff like - look at my hat!?! It has a piece of wood in it and I felt it hitting me. Several witnesses observed something strike the street. This has lead to the "sparks" theory as well as the hunt for some mythological shot that missed and hit the pavement of Elm St. The day after completion of the WC re-enactment of the assassination, members of the re-enactment stayed behind and were observed cutting and removing limbs from the Live Oak tree which is located directly in front of/under the sixth floor window of the TSDB. The FBI was fully qualified to determine exactly how CE399 came to exist, and I am hardly more qualified than were they. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David S. Brownlee Posted November 18, 2006 Author Share Posted November 18, 2006 The FBI was fully qualified to determine exactly how CE399 came to exist, and I am hardly more qualified than were they. Good point - neither am I (but..of course...I don't have an agenda). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas H. Purvis Posted November 18, 2006 Share Posted November 18, 2006 The FBI was fully qualified to determine exactly how CE399 came to exist, and I am hardly more qualified than were they. Good point - neither am I (but..of course...I don't have an agenda). Exactly! And, one must go back in time and recall that JEH always maintained that the first shot fired only penetrated a short distance into the back of JFK. Which is of course what Siebert & Oneil reported from the autopsy results, and was in fact the original conclusion of the autopsy. Now, one must assume that JEH & Company were quite qualified to determine exactly what it was that could cause a normally 2200----2400 fps bullet to only penetrate a short distance into the back of JFK. Along with the fact that the FBI was fully knowledgeable of all other aspects of the testing of the forensic and ballistic evidence. Therefore, it should come as no great suprise that JEH & Company knew full well exactly how CE399 came to exist, and this, thereafter provides the necessary information which one must possess in order to determine exactly how was it that something which is in reality this simple, was completely obscured and made to become "lost" in the obfuscation of the facts of the assassination. Lastly, for your information, the Attorney General of the United States was long ago provided with the information necessary for the FBI to determine the facts of the assassination, to include the name of a most reliable witness who personally observed the FBI/WC re-enactment members cutting and removing the limbs from the live oak tree the day after completion of the WC re-enactment/survey work. ALL, now a matter of official record! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David S. Brownlee Posted November 19, 2006 Author Share Posted November 19, 2006 Now, one must assume that JEH & Company were quite qualified to determine exactly what it was that could cause a normally 2200----2400 fps bullet to only penetrate a short distance into the back of JFK... OK - well how exactly did that work? That's the most senseless thing I have ever heard. was there a really strong oncoming gust of wind that slowed the bullet down a few thousand FPS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas H. Purvis Posted November 19, 2006 Share Posted November 19, 2006 Now, one must assume that JEH & Company were quite qualified to determine exactly what it was that could cause a normally 2200----2400 fps bullet to only penetrate a short distance into the back of JFK... OK - well how exactly did that work? That's the most senseless thing I have ever heard. was there a really strong oncoming gust of wind that slowed the bullet down a few thousand FPS? A good look at the Altgens photo will demonstrate the only obstacle which lay between the sixth floor window of the TSDB and the position/location of JFK, which could have had influence on the velocity of CE399. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David S. Brownlee Posted November 28, 2006 Author Share Posted November 28, 2006 (edited) Now, one must assume that JEH & Company were quite qualified to determine exactly what it was that could cause a normally 2200----2400 fps bullet to only penetrate a short distance into the back of JFK... OK - well how exactly did that work? That's the most senseless thing I have ever heard. was there a really strong oncoming gust of wind that slowed the bullet down a few thousand FPS? A good look at the Altgens photo will demonstrate the only obstacle which lay between the sixth floor window of the TSDB and the position/location of JFK, which could have had influence on the velocity of CE399. So...not being to the level that I can quickly access CE399 (Happy Thanksgiving by the way)...I suppose it was a tree that handily influenced the velocity of that bullet. Or it was a part of a tree. A branch let's say, or a twig... let's not split hairs. OK : ...so we have a bullet that hit the curb down near the underpass which had the power to then blow up shrapnel (grains of concrete)l strong enough to break skin on a civillian...a straight muzzle to impact bullet IMO. ...a bullet impact (probably - and almost certainly) that was crowded around and was taken from the ground (grass/dirt) impact nearby on the away side from the grassy knoll by suits... ...a bullet that hit on the inside of the road - right side -(meaning closer to the TSBD and probably earlier) and made a multiple witness verified gouge on the road... ...then we have the four bullets that actually did damage...and who knows how many others that may have just flown by and hit elsewhere. IMO and IM-guess there were likely many shots in Dealy that day... One or two from Dal-Tex, two from the roof or closest side of the 6th floor of the TSBD (none from the "sniper's perch"), one or two from the roof of the jail (behind, high, and left of the limo)...and one or two from the fence (Grassy Knoll) - one of which was the kill shot ...last...when they slowed down the limo (cause even the best shooter probably missed the first moving shot). The slowing down of the Limo was key IMO - it allowed for an expert shooter to hit from close range... ...and possibly there were a few more earlier shots that simply missed and can't be accounted for due to lack of interest by the "investigators". I wonder if there was a backup plan at the Trade-Mart? Edited November 28, 2006 by David S. Brownlee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas H. Purvis Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 Now, one must assume that JEH & Company were quite qualified to determine exactly what it was that could cause a normally 2200----2400 fps bullet to only penetrate a short distance into the back of JFK... OK - well how exactly did that work? That's the most senseless thing I have ever heard. was there a really strong oncoming gust of wind that slowed the bullet down a few thousand FPS? A good look at the Altgens photo will demonstrate the only obstacle which lay between the sixth floor window of the TSDB and the position/location of JFK, which could have had influence on the velocity of CE399. So...not being to the level that I can quickly access CE399 (Happy Thanksgiving by the way)...I suppose it was a tree that handily influenced the velocity of that bullet. Or it was a part of a tree. A branch let's say, or a twig... let's not split hairs. OK : ...so we have a bullet that hit the curb down near the underpass which had the power to then blow up shrapnel (grains of concrete)l strong enough to break skin on a civillian...a straight muzzle to impact bullet IMO. ...a bullet impact (probably - and almost certainly) that was crowded around and was taken from the ground (grass/dirt) impact nearby on the away side from the grassy knoll by suits... ...a bullet that hit on the inside of the road - right side -(meaning closer to the TSBD and probably earlier) and made a multiple witness verified gouge on the road... ...then we have the four bullets that actually did damage...and who knows how many others that may have just flown by and hit elsewhere. IMO and IM-guess there were likely many shots in Dealy that day... One or two from Dal-Tex, two from the roof or closest side of the 6th floor of the TSBD (none from the "sniper's perch"), one or two from the roof of the jail (behind, high, and left of the limo)...and one or two from the fence (Grassy Knoll) - one of which was the kill shot ...last...when they slowed down the limo (cause even the best shooter probably missed the first moving shot). The slowing down of the Limo was key IMO - it allowed for an expert shooter to hit from close range... ...and possibly there were a few more earlier shots that simply missed and can't be accounted for due to lack of interest by the "investigators". I wonder if there was a backup plan at the Trade-Mart? So...not being to the level that I can quickly access CE399 (Happy Thanksgiving by the way)...I suppose it was a tree that handily influenced the velocity of that bullet. Or it was a part of a tree. A branch let's say, or a twig... let's not split hairs. OK : Small limb. The LHO/Shooter mistake being: That in sighting through the scope for the first/short range shot, they were in fact looking at a point with was in fact some 2(+) inches higher than the initial flight of the bullet. Distance from the window ledge of the TSDB to the tree limbs was in fact less than 100 feet, (closer to 75 to 85 feet). Therefore, the bullet was travelling at a considerably lower flight path than the actual 2+inch higher line of sight through the scope, and although one may have had a "clear" sight picture, that does not mean that the projectile flight path was this devoid of obstacles. A common error of inexperienced shooters who have had little practice with a scope at short ranges. P.S. As I have repeatedly informed, the day after completion of the WC re-enactment/survey Work, members of this group were observed in Dealy Plaza with a "Bucket Truck", and they were lifted up into the top branches of the Live Oak tree which is located directly under the sixth floor window of the TSDB. They were engaged in cutting and removing the branches from the upper area of the tree. The branches have never been seen since. Since I most assuredly am not more qualified than was the FBI to resolve the issues of CE399 and exactly how it was that an (as fired) 2,000 to 2,200 fps bullet could lose velocity to the extent that it only enter the back of someone a distance of less than 2-inches, then it should come as no suprise that the FBI, as well as many others were fully aware of exactly what needed to be looked for. ...so we have a bullet that hit the curb down near the underpass which had the power to then blow up shrapnel (grains of concrete)l strong enough to break skin on a civillian...a straight muzzle to impact bullet IMO. Kind of like THE SHOT THAT MISSED! This is a mythological creature. That Tague received a minor scratch/cut on the cheek, is a relatively well established fact. As to whether this was caused by direct impact of a small fragment directly from the Z313/second shot bullet fragmentation, or by some piece of "kicked" up concrete, is completely unknown. However, what is known virtually beyond any doubt is the fact that the piece of curb, which "REPORTEDABLY" contained what appeared to be a lead smear, had virtually no damage to it when the first attempt to locate it was made. And, ALL who even initially observed this "smear" so stated that there was in reality no "chip", etc in which concrete was obviously absent. The actual piece of concrete was not removed by the FBI until well after the WC had decided their storyline, and thus any actual reliability of information relative to chipped concrete and "lead smears" on the concrete is so suspect that it truly can not even be taken into consideration. Other than for the fact the the WC attempted to utilize said information to their advantage in telling us all about THE SHOT THAT MISSED!. ...then we have the four bullets that actually did damage...and who knows how many others that may have just flown by and hit elsewhere. So, some believe! However, there are also those who appear to believe in up to six shooters. If so, then two of the shooters must have been napping if we only had four bullets. The correct answer is: Three Shots, Three Bullets! & Politicians, not unlike Magicians, can make things disappear! IMO and IM-guess there were likely many shots in Dealy that day... One or two from Dal-Tex, two from the roof or closest side of the 6th floor of the TSBD (none from the "sniper's perch"), one or two from the roof of the jail (behind, high, and left of the limo)...and one or two from the fence (Grassy Knoll) - one of which was the kill shot ...last...when they slowed down the limo (cause even the best shooter probably missed the first moving shot). YEP! We most certainly do not want to omit "Black-Dog Man"; "Badge-Man"; "Sewer-Drain Man"; plus the "Body Kidnap/Wound Alteration Crew"; etc; etc; etc;. Be sure and include "Garbage-Truck Man", as that is most certainly where most of this belongs. The slowing down of the Limo was key IMO - it allowed for an expert shooter to hit from close range... First Shot:---68 yards.-----BB Gun range! ...and possibly there were a few more earlier shots that simply missed and can't be accounted for due to lack of interest by the "investigators". With the frequently asinine theories which one can find, I would therefore have no doubt that some would think possibly that the previous "firecracker" explosions along the parade route were quite probably the results of the Assassin('s) attempting to ZERO their rifle prior to running/riding on down to Dealy Plaza to accomplish the "Cross-Fire/Canyon Shoot" scenario. "Five to Ten" that I could probably get some to believe that one too! I wonder if there was a backup plan at the Trade-Mart? Tim McVeith's father perhaps?????? or perhaps another WTC???? Or whatever else the "fertile" mind can imagine! Lastly, most of the answers to your questions, facetious or not, can be found somewhere within this forum, and although I often find great enjoyment (and laughter) at listening to the many and varied BS scenarios regarding multiple assassins, body kidnappings, etc;, I truly do not have the time or the patience to completely "re-hash" what is and has and was long ago posted within the realms of this talk show. Tom P.S. In event that you want to know more about CE399, how it came to exist, and the wounds which it is responsible for, then perhaps you could: A. Believe me!--------------Which personally, I most assuredly would not do! B. Contact Mr. Looney, as he can no doubt be located through AFTE. C. Call FBI Agent Frazier as he quite clearly knows things of which he has informed others in the most subtle of ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas H. Purvis Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 Added Frazier Letter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David S. Brownlee Posted December 2, 2006 Author Share Posted December 2, 2006 (edited) OK so how exactly did the bullet that caused the injury to the guy down at the overpass work? It couldn't of come apart going through the tree because that would mean a bullet going through similar physics would have come apart piercing JFK and Connally. Changing direction by about 15 or 20 degrees (from a downward shot to an upward trajectory) would have taken off a lot of speed - a LOT - from a medium HP bullet in the first place.. What would have happened?...a whole bunch - and it would likely have turned said bullet into a tumbling piece of 1000 fps (or less) shrapnel. There wasn't any "change-of-direction" bullet after hitting a tree...that an experienced shooter wouldn't have shot through in the first place. .............. It was straight from Dal=Tex. trust me. that bullet simply glided over JFK's head because there is a slow elevation change at that point on Dealy Plaza. It goes down hill. Edited December 2, 2006 by David S. Brownlee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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