John Simkin: Unspeakable National Disgrace

[Michael G. Smith]

I was going to ask for admission into your forum, having studied History, it's implications, the JFK Assassination for 35 years now , but after reading some of the posts there I've decided not to. It seems you guys (Simkin) are there without the least bit of concern about who killed JFK . A open and shut if it weren't for a lack of critical and classical thinking skills that pervade our society today and a willing suspension of disbelief that passes along with evidence (Horse manure) muttered by your forums advocates . Fueling a unhealthy American obsession with innuendo, hearsay evidence and contradictions, retained in the WCR, for posterity's sake and the historic record, to be reviewed by *QUALIFIED*! Historians at a later date for revision and turning it into some half arsed game, with sound bite sally (Simkin) is what I describe as a ' Unspeakable National Disgrace'. This man wouldn't know a Assassin even if he were shot in the rear end by one. Just great, a blind man leading the willfully blind on a chase up the Grassy Knoll that's looking more like Mt. Everest as every day goes by. Self importance must be the main goal of people who dither around the bush day in and day out for 44 years straight, never ending rearrangement of words into questions that were answered years ago . The determinable facts of the Assassination were discovered by the WCR, all the rest has been useless speculation bordering on the criminal and seduction of the most foul type that indicates lost time and effort by people who have no direction and have no self esteem. Reminds me of a group of little lost girls in a forest, on crutches crying for their MOMMA!

PS: Try posting that on your forum, I'd love to see the reactions, dropped jawed conundrums of disbelief , feigned postures of indignation and all the dead phone responses by your air headed followers ! I don't expect you to do this, cowards that hide behind the power of a deletion button are just cowards and no more.

Tomas,

There is only room for one "completely closed" mind on this forum, and I long ago laid claim to it.

Too bad that you did not shop around here, you just may have learned a few things which neither the WC nor the HSCA bothered to inform you of. Such as:

1. Some of the facts as relates to who & what LHO was and the games he was playing/being played.

2. Some of the facts about the third/last/final shot in the shooting sequence.(The Magic Bullet)

3. Some of the facts about the first shot in the shooting sequence.

4. That the WC was a complete misrepresentation of the facts of the assassination.

5. That the HSCA was also manipulated.

My mistake! I would suppose that my mind IS NOT completely closed, since I am fully aware of almost all of Specter & Company's frequent and ever so slight/sleight-of-hand manipulations of the evidence, as well as the extremely high probability of a conspiracy to assassinate JFK.

Tom

P.S. I do believe that the old saying was "A Closed Mind Opens no Doors".

Tomas, Thanks so much for your kind words about the "Forum", and Mr. Simpkins. You have done us all a big favor by not joining us here. I dont know John personally, but what I do know of him, he has done more than most people I can think of to further the education, and research, of many subjects, not just the JFK case. To put together a site such as his Forum, seems to me to be such an undertaking that Im sure most people wouldnt even begin to try to attempt, or even think of trying to do what he has done. We dont all agree with each other here, and never will. But that is what "forums" such as Johns are. Places to discuss OLD and NEW ideas and thoughts. You are surely entitled to your opinion, which you made perfectly clear. If this Forum, and John, bother you to such an extreme, why even bother posting anything here? Seems to me you have another agenda. You should just continue trolling other sites that you approve of, and spout off your expert solutions to those who will listen to you. Im sure most of us here wouldnt listen to anything you had to say, regardless of what it was. Again, thanks once more for your kind post.-smitty

[Guest Stephen Turner]

On viewing the title of this topic, I thought at the very least John must have been caught in bed with a Beefeater.

Turns out it's just a lone nut WC true believer exuding froth.

What a disappointment. .

Sid, the shock value of that has dissipated somewhat due to the breaking down of tradition. They've just appointed the first female Beefeater, and she was almost attractive in a disturbing Soviet farm-girl kind of way.

Nothing wrong with Soviet farm girls Greg

You only subscribed to Most Best Great Soviet Tractors & Harvesters Quarterly for the articles, I take it, Steve?

Absolutely, I shall arrange a subscription for Mr Lowry at once, I suspect it will do him the power of good. The section, lonely tractor girls looking for love will be well "thumbed" I imagine.

Edited January 12, 2007 by Stephen Turner

[Peter McGuire]

I was going to ask for admission into your forum, having studied History, it's implications, the JFK Assassination for 35 years now , but after reading some of the posts there I've decided not to. It seems you guys (Simkin) are there without the least bit of concern about who killed JFK . A open and shut if it weren't for a lack of critical and classical thinking skills that pervade our society today and a willing suspension of disbelief that passes along with evidence (Horse manure) muttered by your forums advocates . Fueling a unhealthy American obsession with innuendo, hearsay evidence and contradictions, retained in the WCR, for posterity's sake and the historic record, to be reviewed by *QUALIFIED*! Historians at a later date for revision and turning it into some half arsed game, with sound bite sally (Simkin) is what I describe as a ' Unspeakable National Disgrace'. This man wouldn't know a Assassin even if he were shot in the rear end by one. Just great, a blind man leading the willfully blind on a chase up the Grassy Knoll that's looking more like Mt. Everest as every day goes by. Self importance must be the main goal of people who dither around the bush day in and day out for 44 years straight, never ending rearrangement of words into questions that were answered years ago . The determinable facts of the Assassination were discovered by the WCR, all the rest has been useless speculation bordering on the criminal and seduction of the most foul type that indicates lost time and effort by people who have no direction and have no self esteem. Reminds me of a group of little lost girls in a forest, on crutches crying for their MOMMA!

PS: Try posting that on your forum, I'd love to see the reactions, dropped jawed conundrums of disbelief , feigned postures of indignation and all the dead phone responses by your air headed followers ! I don't expect you to do this, cowards that hide behind the power of a deletion button are just cowards and no more.

Warren Commission?

[Bill Miller]

FWIW, Mr. Lowry is a regular over on the McAdams forum. He attacks conspiracy theorists constantly and insists over and over that they refuse to look at the issues, but then evades them like mad when they take the bait. He sent me an extremely hostile email after I put that video up on the web of Baden testifying with his exhibit upside down. He insinuated that I had somehow made everything up even though virtually everything in my video came from government documents. In my opinion he is not well, but he no doubt thinks the same of me. I'll let history (and not cherry-picked historians) be the judge.

Well, I would like to hear him address that clip with the two overlaying Wiegman frames. Some of these guys with his mindset do not even seem to be aware that that the official government position was changed to there being a 95+% chance that someone else had shot at the President from the front, but had only missed. Someone can correct me if I am wrong about that.

Bill

[Ron Ecker]

The section, lonely tractor girls looking for love will be well "thumbed" I imagine.

If you have it, I would appreciate a copy of the article "How a Lonely Tractor Girl Put Me in Traction." (It was ripped out of the issue at my local library.)

[John Geraghty]

I was going to ask for admission into your forum, having studied History, it's implications, the JFK Assassination for 35 years now , but after reading some of the posts there I've decided not to. It seems you guys (Simkin) are there without the least bit of concern about who killed JFK . A open and shut if it weren't for a lack of critical and classical thinking skills that pervade our society today and a willing suspension of disbelief that passes along with evidence (Horse manure) muttered by your forums advocates . Fueling a unhealthy American obsession with innuendo, hearsay evidence and contradictions, retained in the WCR, for posterity's sake and the historic record, to be reviewed by *QUALIFIED*! Historians at a later date for revision and turning it into some half arsed game, with sound bite sally (Simkin) is what I describe as a ' Unspeakable National Disgrace'. This man wouldn't know a Assassin even if he were shot in the rear end by one. Just great, a blind man leading the willfully blind on a chase up the Grassy Knoll that's looking more like Mt. Everest as every day goes by. Self importance must be the main goal of people who dither around the bush day in and day out for 44 years straight, never ending rearrangement of words into questions that were answered years ago . The determinable facts of the Assassination were discovered by the WCR, all the rest has been useless speculation bordering on the criminal and seduction of the most foul type that indicates lost time and effort by people who have no direction and have no self esteem. Reminds me of a group of little lost girls in a forest, on crutches crying for their MOMMA!

PS: Try posting that on your forum, I'd love to see the reactions, dropped jawed conundrums of disbelief , feigned postures of indignation and all the dead phone responses by your air headed followers ! I don't expect you to do this, cowards that hide behind the power of a deletion button are just cowards and no more.

Allow me to introduce you to the word AN.

If your critical thinking is as bad as your grammar, then I have little confidence in your deductions in this case.

Why a national disgrace as opposed to an international one?

John

Edited January 12, 2007 by John Geraghty

[Guest Stephen Turner]

The section, lonely tractor girls looking for love will be well "thumbed" I imagine.

If you have it, I would appreciate a copy of the article "How a Lonely Tractor Girl Put Me in Traction." (It was ripped out of the issue at my local library.)

Sorry Ron, Mr Lowry has that at the minute, once I get it back, if its in a fit state to mail, I will certainly send it on,along with its companion peice, "Comrade Yeltsins ten favorite farm related pin ups"

[Brian Smith]

Well, I would like to hear him address that clip with the two overlaying Wiegman frames. Some of these guys with his mindset do not even seem to be aware that that the official government position was changed to there being a 95+% chance that someone else had shot at the President from the front, but had only missed. Someone can correct me if I am wrong about that.

I have discussed this fact with several "lone gunman proponents" on the IMDb forum for the movie JFK. They completely dismiss the acoustic evidence, as they do each and every single fact that challenges their assertions. It makes no difference to them that the British Academy Of Forensic Sciences re-examined the tapes and came to the conclusion that at least one of the shots came from the grassy knoll to within a 96 % probability. They are clearly not interested in an objective examination of all the facts, but in picking and choosing only those that seem to support their claimed beliefs.

Edited January 12, 2007 by Brian Smith

[Charles Black]

I am dissapointed that this "brilliant, free thinking researcher" has decided not to join us.

He could join the debate without ever having to initiate an "original thought", which he apparently has never had.

He simply could reply to any and every possible subject by stating "SEE THE WARREN COMMISSION REPORT" !

We should probably inform him that he could easily set a new forum record for the most responses in the least amount of time ! That should be incentive enough. We could tell him that we will try to have him entered into the Guinnes book ! (Is Guinnes spelled the same as the beer, or in a more scholarly manner ?)

Charlie Black

P.S. In an effort to be as humane as possible, and in an even further effort to display our highly recognized religious charity and the courteousy so common among even disagreeing forum members, we should make every effort not to injure his ego, by insuring that we never mention in his presence, the final conclusions of the report of the HSCA !

Edited January 12, 2007 by Charles Black