William Weston

Globalist elites and the JFK assassination

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I interviewed researcher Steve Gaal on August 10, 2010. Like many other researchers Steve says that the conspiracy surrounding John F. Kennedy's death included a coalition of elements within the CIA, the military, and the Mafia. However, an examination of the events in the life of Lee Harvey Oswald, and the people connected to Oswald, has led him to the conclusion that an elite group with possibly British connections were angered by Kennedy's move against the money debt authority of the Federal Reserve and joined the aforementioned anti-Kennedy factions in an already burgeoning plot to kill him.

Steve, before we talk about your ideas, let us could talk about your background, who are who, why should we pay attention to you?

Nine days before the Robert F. Kennedy assassination, my mother dropped me off at the Ambassador Hotel. I was fifteen at the time, and my mother was always trying to stimulate me. I saw Robert F. Kennedy speak and he kicked off his California campaign. Nine days later I was watching television late into the night, and at the podium I had seen him speak at when I was there at the Ambassador, he said "On to Chicago." It was very late. I turned off my small, black and white television and felt very good. I've already started to go against the Vietnam War and started thinking that maybe the government even lies to us. When I heard that Kennedy was dead, I thought that he was killed by a conspiracy. I had already read Mark Lane's "Rush to Judgment." From then on, on and off, I've studied conspiracy, trying to make sense of it. I think with the deep analysis, the pieces to the puzzle have to fit together. If you are left with a puzzle piece that is a real true fact, and it does not fit into the conspiracy picture, then your theory must be flawed in some way. In my research I have found puzzle pieces that don't fit commonly accepted theories limiting the conspiracy to either the CIA or the Mafia. My analysis leads me to conclude that Kennedy was killed by a conspiracy that included powerful men who were over and above the CIA and the Mafia, controlling them both. This elite group, with possibly British connections, was angered by Kennedy's move against the money debt authority of the Federal Reserve and joined an ongoing plot that was already in place to kill him.

How did you conclude that Kennedy was killed by a conspiracy?

The "Rush to Judgment" book made me wonder about the thoroughness of the Warren Commission. If you are investigating a very important event and if there are errors and incompleteness, and you have the full cooperation of all the intelligence services of the United States and you leave things open and unexplored, there must be a reason for that. It doesn't make sense that you would have the most important man in power, political power as well as military power, killed and not have the most thorough investigation, unless you didn't really want the answer. Leaders and kings have been killed before by conspiracies, and governments have been overthrown. The CIA overthrew Mossadegh, and it’s their job to control countries. So if they had a policy difference, it's not impossible to think that they helped kill Kennedy.

Can you identify the major players in this conspiracy?

Well, the self-professed, best friend of Lee Harvey Oswald was George de Mohrenschildt. His brother wrote a book with the son of the brother of Allen Dulles; John Foster Dulles's son wrote a book with Dmitri de Mohrenschildt. In a note in the six volume phonebooks of de Mohrenschildt is the home phone number of George Herbert Walker Bush, and he uses the word "Poppy" next to the phone number, a nickname which was not known by many people at all but only by close associates. From the work of researcher Bruce Campbell Adamson, de Mohrenschildt may have received $200,000 from Prescott Bush. He left Dallas, went to New York City and possibly met with Prescott Bush. Only a few months before, Prescott had left the Senate, had a small vacation, and then became president of Brown Brothers Harriman. Brown Brothers Harriman gave de Mohrenschildt $200,000. Adamson found a FBI note that states that Brown Brothers Harriman sent a message to the Republic National Bank building asking about de Mohrenschildt. I will address the Republic National Bank building and its owner Lewis McNaughton later. Now Brown Brothers Harriman was a Skull and Bones operation. We have often been told that Skull and Bones was a German operation, but this is really just a cover story. The true originators were British. For many years they kept it funded through a foundation called the Russell Trust. The Russells were an American family who split their opium trade with the British. This is how their trust came under British control. Now going back to the phone books of de Mohrenschildt, he had the number at RCA, and this RCA number was the post-World War II number of Allen Dulles, coordinating things with the OSS. De Mohrenschildt had a stepfather-in-law that was a CIA operative, whose name was Wasserman. Apparently, de Mohrenschildt was an intelligence operative since World War II, though there is a large confusion about what side he's on and what he said he was. If the best friend of Lee Harvey Oswald in Dallas is that connected into intelligence, then you definitely have a case of saying that Dulles himself was involved too, since de Mohrenschildt’s benefactor, Prescott Bush, was a personal friend of Allen Dulles. They were very close for many years, even touring the Middle East together in the 1930s. They were very close.

You mentioned de Mohrenschildt. Are there any other associations or connections that Oswald had that indicate a conspiracy?

From the analysis of Jim Diugenio and Mr. Newman, who wrote the book "Oswald and CIA", there was some type of CIA coordination to Oswald's going into the Cuban and Russian embassies in Mexico City. His travels into Russia indicate CIA assistance. Oswald went precisely to a little known place that allowed him to enter Russia quickly. This enabled him to maintain his cover as a “man on the run.” If Oswald had gone to the more commonly known entry points into Russia, he would have been delayed and lost time, which would enable his pursuers to catch him “on the run.” We hear of the non-conspiratorial explanation of Oswald’s monetary resources which says that he was very frugal and diligently saved his money. This claim that Oswald was extremely frugal is contradicted by the fact that he frequently went to bars in Tokyo, requiring expenditures of money for frivolous purposes that would have depleted his savings. Another indication that Oswald was involved in some type of intelligence operation was his selection of Russia as a place to go to. Professor Rose has written an article about all his records. Going further, every single record that is really important, birth certificate, social security number, times that he was at an orphanage, all these records are incorrect or have inconsistencies. Since Rose wrote his article, additional information has come out that shows even more problems with Oswald's record. A memo that Rankin wrote, which appears on page 199 and 200 of John Armstrong’s “Harvey and Lee” book, a secret memo of the Warren Commission that was not willingly given up by the government, said there were problems with Oswald’s record in the military, specifically his base transfers. Researcher John Newman who minutely studied Oswald’s intelligence files noted numerous inconsistencies. To give you one example, Oswald was not on the NSA letter intercept list, and yet his mail was nevertheless being intercepted. Strangely enough, when Oswald’s name was later put on that list, his letters were not intercepted. Also the U-2 base where he was stationed, that he knew the Russian language on a level of understanding equivalent to someone who was native-born, all indicate Oswald’s connection to intelligence. There’s even evidence of two Oswalds, as John Armstrong wrote about.

What connections or associations did Ruby have that would indicate a conspiracy?

According to Douglas Valentine, an FBN agent saw Ruby’s file and discovered that he was an FBN informant. The FBN worked very closely with the CIA, worked with them in MK-Ultra events. Valentine goes on to say that the CIA could forestall FBN investigations when one of their assets or sources was using narcotics to support their projects. That would be the most telling thing, that Ruby was an FBN informant. And this was all covered up by the Warren Commission.

What about with mobsters?

That was covered up too. In the official stories Ruby was a local hoodlum. In the past he might have had run numbers as a child for Capone and that was the extent of his mob connections. But even looking at what the Warren Commission did investigate, you see by his phone records he was calling Lansky people, including the Dorfman mob in Chicago. There were narcotic connections to Ruby that were covered up by misspellings. The Campisi family was deliberately many times misspelled in Warren Commission papers. Even in the FBI internal documents the name Campisi was misspelled. The files that we now have that probably could have been given to the Commission, or that they did have, indicate that he had narcotics connections in Los Angeles with that man Breen that the wife talked about, who said that you had to go through Ruby to get narcotics through Dallas. There’s also the man who said that Ruby showed him a film of a narcotics transaction at the Mexican-U.S. border. That gives more credence to Valentine’s claim that he was a Federal Bureau Narcotics agent. The only people who would make such a film would be the FBN doing it covertly, and Ruby showed this film to someone. So Ruby was not a local hoodlum who ran a strip club. He was much more than that.

If we combine Oswald’s associations with George de Mohrenschildt, who was an intelligence operative connected through Prescott Bush to Dulles and the CIA, and Ruby's associations with the mobsters, can we say that the conspiracy was a simple coalition between the CIA and the Mafia? Or was it more than that?

In spite of all the publicity given to the Mafia connection to the JFK assassination, it was really only of minor significance. I believe the Mafia played a much larger role in the events following the assassination. They had the task of terminating key witnesses and whistleblowers post-assassination, which required close-range shooting that the Mafia excelled at. While the Rose Cheramine information does place the narcotic side of the Mafia within the events leading up to the actual assassination, yet still this involvement was peripheral. The CIA and the military would not have employed Mafia hitmen, who did not have the expertise to do the kind of long range shooting the Dealey Plaza ambush required. That kind of shooting called for shooters with military training or professional sport training. Fletcher Prouty speculated that the shooters, or “mechanics”, as he called them, came from Greece. Now it just so happens that the former CIA Chief of Station in Athens was with George Herbert Walker Bush on November 22, 1963. So I fully agree with Prouty that the shooters came from Greece. It may be a fruitful line of research to investigate famous Greek marksmen during the period of the 1950s and 1960s.

So although the Dallas conspiracy appears to be a CIA rogue operation with some assistance from Mafia hitmen during the cleanup following the assassination, it goes much deeper than that. We see that the conspiracy involved generals and admirals at the highest levels. This can be seen through the problems with the autopsy at Bethesda. There were two brains at the autopsy events. The photographic record was changed at the autopsy. There was some type of film alteration in the Zapruder film itself. We could just go with minor alteration and say that the blob on the head was hiding a second gunman. So neither the Mafia nor CIA rogues could control the outcome of the autopsy or Zapruder film alterations. That required the involvement of the highest levels of the military and the CIA. Fletcher Prouty said that Kennedy made a great error when he thought that Maxwell Taylor, the head of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, was loyal to him. In actuality, Maxwell Taylor was loyal to Dulles. Yet beyond what the CIA and the military did, there are still even more anomalies that compel us to go even higher than the highest levels of the military and the CIA. I have an alternative view of history that explains puzzle pieces that don’t fit within the commonly touted theories of the assassination.

What are these anomalous facts you think need to be added to the conspiracy puzzle?

One of these anomalous facts is the so-called “second plot”, which was a John Birch Society affair involving a man named Gabaldon enlisting Oswald in Mexico. Gabaldon posed as a CIA officer to entice Oswald into a patsy trap. The CIA itself played along with the John Birch Society’s efforts to kill Kennedy. Now you would think that the CIA might have protected themselves by exposing this plot rather than keep it going, but the reason why they did not stop it was because the JBS was a special project of the elites. The JBS had very deep elite connections. The rank and file CIA agents did not know about these elite connections, only the people at the top. Since the reason why the CIA exists is to serve the elite, the people at the top would forestall any efforts by their underlings to shut down the JBS attempt to organize an assassination plot.

Another anomaly is Lansky trying to help Castro. Now you would think that Lansky would understand that Castro would have a deleterious effect on his casino operations, which it did. I will explain why Lansky helped Castro later.

A third anomaly is Permindex which is connected to Clay Shaw. For a long time, we have known that Clay Shaw was an asset of the CIA, but recently new documents have been found that show that Permindex was connected to Rothschild and British interests. By putting together these anomalies, I believe a better view of the assassination is that the Rothschild and British elites were involved in the assassination plot, but not initially. They knew about it, but early on they were just going to let it happen without committing themselves. Their active involvement in the plot began after Kennedy decided to change the Federal Reserve debt mechanism. He was moving against the British and the Rothschilds who had interests in the Federal Reserve. That’s why they needed to remove him.

You have named three anomalies. Are there any more?

The Secret Service was part of this conspiracy also, and that doesn’t really fit the mold of having only the CIA be the center of all this with Dulles behind Maxwell Taylor. The participation of the Secret Service in the plot gives more evidence that the elites were involved. The Secret Service’s investigation of the Chicago plot on Kennedy’s life a few weeks before the Texas trip was terminated abruptly and suppressed. The suppression of the investigation was not done locally, but came directly from the Washington headquarters of the Secret Service. A Secret Service man was at the meeting when the Dallas parade route was selected with the 120 degree turn at Elm Street, which was quite unsafe. According to Fletcher Prouty, the Secret Service, through past experience, had regulations in place that the car at most times should not be under 44 miles per hour, yet in an unsafe area with tall buildings and open windows, it slowed down to a crawl to make that sharp turn onto Elm Street. They certainly did not scout out the buildings around the plaza very well. When Kennedy arrived in Dallas, the bubbletop was not put on the car, purposely. On film we see an agent attempting to ride on the President’s car as it was leaving the airport but was told by another agent to get off. Now in earlier motorcades, we see on film agents riding on the car at Tampa and Fort Worth, but not in Dallas. After the assassination, they made sure that the body was taken out immediately and put onto the plane to get away from Texas authorities. So these are indications of conspiracy within the Secret Service. This indicates that there’s something more than just the CIA, and CIA people loyal in the military involved. General Curtis LeMay probably was involved in the conspiracy. There are indications of that, but even a child could have recruited him. He was such a Kennedy hater.

So we have four anomalies: (1) Lansky helping Castro, (2) the “second plot” involving the John Birch Society, (3) the Secret Service, and (4) Permindex that connects to Clay Shaw and the Rothschilds. To explain these anomalies, you need an alternative view of history. Let us first look at the JBS. There is a pamphlet called The Belmont Brotherhood, which describes the real founders of the John Birch Society as being elites and possibly British-connected, the Newcomb Society. So the JBS isn’t what it seems, it’s some type of false front. Now the rank and file members of the JBS were true believers, but the people at the very top of the JBS hierarchy were hiding their connections to the very elite that the JBS was supposed to be against. Let us look at a Mormon-JBS connection that exposes how the elites controlled the JBS. The connection that the Mormons had with the JBS was very close. The leader of the JBS, Ezra Benson, president of the Mormon church, became involved with the JBS. His son Reed Benson became involved with the JBS. The Mormon connection to the elites can be seen with Swiss billionaire Robert Vincent de Oliverri, who was part of the Rothschild clan, and the second richest Rothschild in the world. He became a Mormon and sometime later, in 1967, paid off a $500 million debt that the Mormon church owed. In today’s money that is about $4 billion. So the Mormons, the JBS, and the elites are all tied together.

Now let us look at the anomaly of Lansky helping Castro. Behind Lansky were the British, who secretly wanted Castro to come to power in Cuba. They did not want the United States to have an accommodation with him, which was what Kennedy was trying to do in 1963. They wanted Castro as a so-called pebble in the shoe to irritate America. Historically, America was isolationist, and the British wanted America to become globalist. Having Castro in power forced America to look beyond its borders and get involved in the affairs of other countries. There is a book called Desperate Deception that I could recommend, which explains how concerned the British were that America was too neutralist. Even though the British lost a lot after World War I, the elites in Britain wanted to have a world domination by centralized banks. To achieve this goal America had to become an internationalist force. They managed to gain control of America through a secret group called the Pilgrim Society which people can look up on the Internet and check out. Through the Pilgrims, the British entrapped America within a military-industrial complex in order to keep its economy going. On the other hand, the British did not want America to become too strong for that would mean it would become too independent and say no to Britain. The means by which they could make America its tool was through strengthening or weakening the dollar. A more globalist policy kept the American dollar strong in the decades following World War II; but since the early 1990s there are many indications that the dollar is gradually collapsing. Just look at the facts and the charts over twenty years, and you see that the American dollar is going down. Now the elites are going to have to massage this weakening, until the world domination is complete. There could be a crisis at a certain point where Americans will accept some type of foreign help with their money crisis if it gives them temporary surcease. So that’s part of my world view. This explains why the British wanted America to become more internationalist than it was. They wanted to use America as a tool to expand British influence.

You mention the British using Lansky to achieve their globalist dreams. How did they get Lansky on their side?

We have to go back, way back, to 1928, to explain this British-Lansky connection. In China, there were three large triads, or gangs, exporting narcotics. Originally, the Kuo Ming Tang and Chiang Kai Shek supported these people. At the same time they were also fighting a prolonged war with the Communists. So for publicity reasons, and to get them back on the good side with the Americans who could help them in the war against the Communists, the KMT publicly went against the triads. At the same time, they made a secret deal with one of these gangs. There was some financial gain to having this narcotics export into the Far East and America, but where they were located were mostly Chinese areas and they wanted to expand and make more money. The book by Douglas Valentine indicates that a State Department man was involved in the Chinese narcotics trade. Apparently, he and other State Department people thought that helping the KMT with the drug trade was a good thing in stopping the spread of communism. Of course, they soon realized it would not be good if American diplomats and officials were caught with loads of narcotics. So they asked themselves, “Can’t we get someone else to do the job?” That is why they reached out to Lansky to be a major drug distributor. This was in the 1930s. So he was in contact with elites possibly before World War II. There is a story that he was called in to help the ONI and the OSS to protect ports in New York and help with the invasion of Sicily. Well, that’s the cover story, because he was possibly in contact with these people before the war. Before World War II and the creation of the OSS and the CIA, ONI was our major intelligence organization, and very likely they knew about Lansky and what he was doing before the war. That just makes sense.

So Lansky was an operative for the ONI, but it is possible that he was more of an operative for the British. This would explain why he helped Castro, which on the surface appears to be against his own interests. But something else was occurring at the same time. He was in contact with the very elites and owners of the Bahamas. Now someone could say that he was just setting that up as a safety valve. But the deeper view is that he knew that Castro was going to win. That’s what his masters, the British, wanted. The British helped him set up his operations in the Bahamas. By the way, in 1961 the British changed their laws on casinos and gambling and by 1964 Lansky had a casino in London. Isn't that amazing?

We have now explained the motivations of Clay Shaw with Permindex, and Lansky working for the British to help Castro. Now let me add that in the early 1960s British Guyana was going to go communist, and the British were pulling out. Apparently Kennedy found out that the British weren’t helping set up an anti-communist regime, but they were letting a communist man take the lead in taking over that country. Now you can have more than one explanation of why the British did it, perhaps because they were pressuring Kennedy to help them with their submarine missile technology, but it does indicate that the British did not mind letting a small, Western Hemisphere country go communist. If you read “Deadly Deception” and understood what it meant, the British were just so afraid and angered of neutral America. They wanted America on its side and doing its will. Beyond the scope of this interview, if you look at what the British elite and banking system did with the creation of the Federal Reserve, and their power behind the Morgan group, you see that the British were trying to financially control America.

Now let us go into the Secret Service. The Secret Service was penetrated by the elites. The person that founded it, Lansing, a relative of Allen Dulles, was an Anglophile. There were OSS connections to the Secret Service through Scribner. There was a law firm called Scribner, Hall and Casey. Casey and Hall were with the OSS. Casey worked with Dulles both during World War II and in the decades after. Scribner was the head attorney for Treasury Department, and thus also the Secret Service. Scribner’s successor was Gaspar d'Angelot Belin, who belonged to a secret society called Skull and Bones, which had British connections. It is possible that Belin was involved in a conspiratorial luncheon with Mary Bancroft and Allen Dulles. Researcher Richard Bartholomew comments on a passage that Mary Bancroft wrote in her autobiography (which CIA censors had in manuscript form for a year before it was published). She was the lover of Dulles and Luce at one point simultaneously, but in Switzerland she was Dulles’s lover. In the manuscript itself she talks about metalanguage that she and Dulles used. They talked in code in a metalanguage, and in a paragraph within the autobiography possibly getting it through the censorship of the CIA, she said that she and Dulles had lunch at the Bundys’ house with Gaspar d'Angelot Belin, who had married a Bundy sister. Also there was James Jesus Angleton, whom Probe magazine said was probably very central to the assassination. They had lunch and tennis there. She said that in 1963 Dulles was very competitive and would try to let no one beat him in tennis. It must have been quite a surprise for Mr. Dulles, when Kennedy fired him after the Bay of Pigs fiasco. Dulles was one of these people toppling governments all over the world and controlling world events and the CIA, and two words from Kennedy and he's gone out the door, hat in hand. So Bartholomew believes, and I agree with him, that that paragraph describing those lunches was metalanguage code for discussions on how to assassinate the president. As a matter of fact, Douglas Dillon, a friend of British elites and British eugenists and other Anglophiles, let Gaspar d'Angelot Belin handle all the affairs between the Warren Commission and the Secret Service. There is a letter that is addressed to Belin, although it was misconstrued, that referred to him as the head of the Treasury Department, by one of the Secret Service people. So that shows you how much authority that Dillon, who is the actual head of the Treasury Department, gave to Gaspar d'Angelot Belin, a man who was supporting Britain more than the United States through his loyalty to Skull and Bones. So both Belin and his predecessor Scribner show that there was a Dulles connection to the Secret Service through the Treasury Department. So that takes care of the Secret Service.

There were more connections to the British through a very unusual law firm in New Orleans called Doyle Smith and Doyle. It was an extremely elite-oriented law firm. One of its representative clients was the Kirby family who were involved with the oil company, Atlantic Richfield. The Kirby family was supported by Brown Brothers Harriman, which as I told you earlier was a Skull and Bones operation. Doyle Smith and Doyle also represented Mossbacher, one of the greatest globalists of all time. He was president of the thousand businesses that wanted Congress to pass NAFTA. (The president emeritus of course was Rockefeller himself.) In 1962 Doyle Smith and Doyle had British American Petroleum as a representative client. British Petroleum bought large sections of Atlantic Richfield and turned it into ARCO. Robert Anderson was running Atlantic Richfield in 1966. He started out the company as Hondo. Later on he formed a company called Hondo again, which was the original Atlantic Richfield, that did servicing of properties for ARCO. Anderson was another big-time globalist. William Zeckendorf was another representative client of Doyle Smith and Doyle, but before I talk about him I want to talk about Freeport Sulphur.

Freeport Sulphur was a representative client of Doyle Smith and Doyle. It was extremely Skull and Bones and thus very British. It was having problems because Kennedy was going to investigate the company. But that was only a sideline motivation for the assassination. The decision had already been made by the British to kill Kennedy because of him wanting to accommodate Castro. Curiously, after the assassination, Admiral Arleigh Burke joined the board of Freeport Sulphur. At the time of the assassination Burke was chief of naval operations and would have known about any CIA activities involving Marines, specifically the so-called defectors-to-Russia program involving Oswald. Probe magazine printed an important article that connects Clay Shaw to Freeport Sulphur. Shaw also had connections to the Morgan interests as delineated by Professor Donald Gibson. Before we leave Shaw, I just want to mention that in the summer of 1963 Shaw took Oswald to Clinton, Louisiana for some kind of intelligence operation.

So Doyle Smith and Doyle was a very important company within the conspiracy milieu. Another important British-connected company was Empire Trust. This company was controlled by the Rothschilds via Kohn and Loeb. Jack Crichton was part of Empire Trust. Crichton was the one who sent a translator to the Dallas police station to aid the police in their interrogation of Marina Oswald. The translator, Illya Mamantov, used the opportunity to implicate Oswald as the assassin. The British-connected Great Southwest Corporation had control of Marina following the assassination. To paraphrase Peter Dale Scott, the Great Southwest provided Marina with a manager, an attorney, and a hideaway. Her manager was James Martin. The lawyer was William Mackenzie, and the hideaway was the Six Flags Hotel. The Great Southwest was made up of British interests, including Loeb Rhoades, and Anglophiles William Zeckendorf, the Rockefellers, and the Murchison family. A little known fact about the Murchisons is that they had dealing with the Suez Canal Company, which was controlled by the British government. The Murchisons also had dealings with the Kirby family that I told you about earlier.

A Skull and Bones man named McGeorge Bundy, who was Kennedy's chief national security advisor, played a fundamental role in the Bay of Pigs operation. Bundy cancelled the air support for the Bay of Pigs. He talked to Kennedy, and there is nothing on the record where Bundy said take the safe course and go to the right and conquer Castro. He went along with Kennedy and that kept Castro in power, which is what the British wanted. Bundy is a lead suspect regarding the mishandling of Kennedy’s NSAM directive that would have ended the Vietnam War. He reversed its meaning so that it called for an expansion of the war rather than putting an end to it. Such a change fosters American internationalism, and this is what the British wanted.

So Doyle Smith and Doyle was an extremely British-oriented law firm. It had Gulf States Land and Industries which was owned by Mr. Zeckendorf, who had many land deals with the Rothschild-connected Empire Trust. He also had connections to KMT trucking, which indicates a narcotics connection. KMT drugs were often shipped by means of trucks. Zeckendorf had business dealing with Arthur Rubloff, who had investments with Lansky’s casino operations in the Bahamas. Rubloff was also invested in the Great Southwest Corporation. A member of his board on Gulf States Land and Industries was a James R. Stanley. Mr. Stanley worked with D.H. Byrd at Alpha Omega Finance, and he was also a member of Wallace Investments in Dallas.

The Dallas Conspiracy with Lansky, the British, and the Rothschilds converge on Wallace Investments. It was a mob-connected, business operation. Mr. Wallace himself, through his investments, connected up to Lansky through the Sands Hotel. The head of Wallace Investments was Eugene Locke. He and his partner, who was also in Wallace Investments, ran a law firm called Locke and Purnell. In the office of Locke and Purnell was the parade route meeting, and if my theory is right, Lansky people were at the parade route meeting. This way they could control any final decisions, if the planning went askew. Kennedy advance man Jack Puterbaugh made investments with Wallace Investments, as did Trammel Crowell. Now both those investments were made post assassination, but it gives indication that they knew Mr. Wallace before. Trammel Crowell constructed the Trade Mart, and he knew where all the nooks and crannies were inside the building. If Kennedy hadn’t been killed in Dealey Plaza, then he would have been killed at the Trade Mart where more shooters could hide in the nooks and crannies. Mr. Crowell was a rich man before the assassination, but he became very, very wealthy after the assassination. He became ultra-rich, as the years went on. Quite likely he had connections with British investment and the Morgan Group in America. Let’s get back to Locke and Purnell, who were both cousins, and who were a part of Wallace Investments. Mr. Purnell was on the board of A. H. Belo, which had many odd things connected to the assassination. Belo had Hugh Ainsworthy who had access to Marina when other people did not have access to her, and he was at the Tippit scene. The man who had a seizure that took away an ambulance from Dealey Plaza was an employee of A. H. Belo, oddly. To show the internationalist slant of the organization, A. H. Belo in the 1980s joined the British-American Society. There were not that many American companies that were part of the British-American Society, but A. H. Belo was. It’s quite possible there were connections through Mr. Purnell, because Lansky and his milieu operated in some type of state-sponsored, narco-business alliance, which was outwardly a business with the narcotics operation underneath supporting it partially financially. At the parade route meeting in the office of Locke and Purnell was Elizabeth Forsling Harris. She later became the money source behind Ms. Magazine. (I would like to add as an aside that Ms. magazine was probably an elite plot against the traditional family, to bring down the number of children born to people belonging to the lower and middle classes.) Now when Harris was at the parade route meeting, she made a phone call to the White House at a time when Bill Moyers was at the White House. Going further, Ms. Harris's brother was the head lawyer for CBS, and he later headed the conglomerate that controlled CBS. This same brother worked for Mr. Paley who was the head of CBS. Paley was in the anti-American, pro-British Pilgrim Society that I mentioned earlier. Closely associated with Paley was Prescott Bush who was a CBS trust member of 30 years. Allen Dulles was a very close friend to Paley. He and Paley would exchange Christmas jam and jelly and visit one another. It is therefore no surprise that CBS was part of the cover-up. It strongly supported the Warren Commission and was an enthusiastic promoter of the lone assassin theory.

Now I covered a lot of things here but let me reiterate John Stanley’s connections. He worked as the director of the Great Southwest. His connection to Mr. Zeckendorf puts Stanley within the realm of KMT trucking and British elites. Stanley sat on the board of Wallace Investments, which connects him to the Lansky mob. Stanley was associated with Locke who was the head of Wallace investments. Locke was the head of the law firm Locke and Purnell that finalized the parade route with the difficult turn in front of the Schoolbook Depository. Locke went to Yale, which was the headquarters of Skull and Bones. Locke was appointed ambassador to Pakistan. If any scholar wants to study his record, he may discover that Locke was covertly doing mischief for the British, specifically in regard to the conflict between India and Pakistan. Locke was appointed to the post of deputy ambassador to South Vietnam. If we consider how Locke appears at the center of all these webs of deep politics, I may be permitted to ask: “Was Locke part of a narcotics operation that combined Lansky, KMT, the CIA and Burma?” I don’t think that is a stretch.

We have anomalies at the Schoolbook Depository that has been conjectured by you, Bill, as being deeply part of the conspiracy. Oswald, who was an agent of some type, was an employee at the Depository, which in itself is enough to suspect that something was going on in the building. There are so many anomalies in Oswald’s record, that even if they tried to cover these things up, it is obvious that he was some kind of asset. The previous places where Oswald worked at, such as the Reiley Coffee Co. and Jaggers Stovall, all had intelligence connections. Within the Depository building a few minutes after the shooting, the power was shut down, which indicates that Oswald had an accomplice in the building who knew where to be and who had some type of authorization from the Depository management to be in the basement where the power panel was located. Such an accomplice is an indication of some type of conspiracy among the people working in the building. There are indications that a smuggling operation was going on inside the Depository under the guise of schoolbooks, possibly transporting guns or drugs. Researcher Harry Hurt went to the Depository and saw boxes that were so gigantic that they couldn’t have contained books. Such boxes if they contained books should have weighed 400 pounds. With no mechanical means of lifting them such as forklifts and palettes, these oversized boxes were somehow moved up to the fifth and sixth floors. That in itself is an indication that they contained things other than books. Something was wrong with the Depository. One of the boxes that Hurt saw came from Bobbs-Merrill. This is not just an ordinary schoolbook company. One of the people connected to the Mafia and the CIA, William Harvey, became a legal counsel for this company, post-assassination. So if there are boxes that could not contain books coming from a company that had a very high former official in the CIA in it, and these boxes are found in a building managed by people who supported policies that were conducive to the CIA, and this is the building where the shooting occurred, then something is wrong with the Depository. This is a very easy conclusion to make. It's very possible that the smuggling of guns and drugs were part of the Lansky-Wallace Investment milieu, but those connections have not been defined. Now in an article that you Bill wrote called the Spiders Web there is a discussion of how CIA agent William Harvey connects up to Bobbs-Merrill and how Bobbs-Merrill connects to the Depository.

I have given an alternative view being that elites were involved because of what Kennedy did against the Federal Reserve, the Rothschilds, and probably other banking interests. That is why Permindex was involved. You have a man named Osborne who was really not a CIA agent, but he wound up in England at the time of the assassination, and it’s very possible there was an anonymous phone call pre-assassination talking about Kennedy being killed in the town where he was located. You have Wallace Investments that was connected to Lansky which I connect to an elite-Lansky conspiracy. You have the Secret Service which has connections to Skull and Bones, and Skull and Bones was connected to the British elite. We think of the OSS as being American but it was really partly British with its heads. Then you have the John Birch Society, which had a separate plot that implicated Oswald, but when you look at the founders of the JBS, they are from elites. Many of the events leading up to the Kennedy assassination can be attributed to the CIA apart from the elites, such as what happened in Mexico City. Yet the elites were definitely involved, as can be seen through Oswald’s friend, Alexander Bouhe, who was an employee of Lewis McNaughton. McNaughton was part of Empire Trust, a firm which we mentioned earlier was connected to the British and the Rothschilds. McNaughton controlled the Republican National Bank Building. Dresser Industries was there in the building, which was directed by Neil Mallon, a Skull and Bones man. McNaughton had de Mohrenschildt in that building. His partner was deGolyer. Degolyer was dead by 1963, but before then deGolyer worked and set up the largest independent firm of oil analysts of all time. DeGolyer worked under Lord Cordray, or Lord Pearson, who was at Amarata before it was Amarata Hess. Now I recently learned that the British government owned a large chunk of Amarata. Lord Pearson was one of the richest British men that ever lived. He owned Mexican oil, and sold it out in 1938, just at the right time, amazingly, before it was nationalized by the Mexican government. He owned railroads in Brazil and the like. That would indicate that deGolyer had many British connections. The odd thing is that McNaughton tried to get my uncle to work for him.

Now let us go into my uncle; I can talk about him now, for he is deceased. He worked in gemology, but he also worked in oil. He told his family, myself among them, that he worked for the CIA in a number of adventures. Some of these were down in Venezuela. I suppose he didn’t really tell Venezuela how much oil they actually had there. The media is playing that game today. It is hiding the fact that really the reserves of Venezuela are equivalent or surpassing that of Saudi Arabia, even though it is a thicker crude. So in 1966 my uncle got soil samples from the Gulf of Tonkin, showing that off the coast of Vietnam there was an oil reserve. Look up the 1969 report of the Naval Oceanographic Office which can be found on the Internet. It says that in 1966 the U.S. Navy gave Robert Gaal soil samples from the Gulf of Tonkin that came from the ocean floor. So Mr. McNaughton tried to recruit him. I wonder now, because my uncle was already working for the CIA, that McNaughton was trying to make him work for MI6. We can end this interview with just one other odd story. I landed in Hungary the day that Russia invaded Czechoslovakia. My uncle was also there. He took care of our passports, because when you land in Hungary at that time, you had to take them to the police station and then they check them out and then you’re fine and you can stay in Hungary. You have to do it within a 24 hour period. I went to a farm with my grandmother. He went Russia “to trade rocks and gems with Russian gemologists”. I am sure he was there also to check on the Russian oil industry, something of course the CIA wanted. Oil and the CIA are practically the same word, practically synonymous in some sense. So he was doing something in Russia, but when he came back oddly, he didn’t go to the police station. I don’t know how he forgot. We all knew when we first arrived that it was very important. So when we were leaving Hungary with my grandmother (who reverted to speaking only in Hungarian at that time, which I have no understanding of), a man who apparently was KGB with two Russian soldiers (because they could be at the airport and in the countryside according to the agreement Russia had with Hungary). They took my uncle away, and I was left with my now Hungarian-only speaking grandmother. We boarded an Aeroflot plane. They held it up for 20 minutes and they returned. He just told us it was an error. But I always wondered if it was more than that. The passport was there to help someone else. That could be possible. So McNaughton and Alexander Bouhe were very close, and Bouhe was transporting the Oswald family. At one time he even did some babysitting for the Oswald family. Bouhe was the personal, not the corporate accountant, of Mr. McNaughton at the time he befriended the Oswalds. After the assassination Marina Oswald stayed with Declan Ford who had also worked for McNaughton. Prior to living with the Fords, Marina Oswald and her daughters stayed with the Michael and Ruth Paine. The Paines not only had connections to the CIA, but Michael was a descendant of the Cabot family on both his mother and father’s side of the family. The Cabots have branches on both sides of the Atlantic. One branch of the family was British. Now let’s look at Ruth. She was close to the Forbes family, and during the summer of 1963 she traveled to their compound. Now the significant thing about both the Cabot and the Forbes family is that they worked with the Russell family in the British opium trade. So the poor Oswald family barely surviving on minimum wages had an abundance of ties to extremely rich and powerful families with elitist Anglophile backgrounds.

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This explains why the British wanted America to become more internationalist than it was. They wanted to use America as a tool to expand British influence

This is called "The Special Relationship".

Good job Steve.

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The CIA and the military would not have employed Mafia hitmen, who did not have the expertise to do the kind of long range shooting the Dealey Plaza ambush required.

And far less likely would it be that any mob command figures with even less rifle experience - Nicoletti, Roselli - would be at any office windows in Dealey.

(I would like to add as an aside that Ms. magazine was probably an elite plot against the traditional family, to bring down the number of children born to people belonging to the lower and middle classes.)

One of the motives of the CIA-backed Ms. has been said to be the advancement of both married and single women in the workplace, so that more taxable incomes could be created.

Edited by David Andrews

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Interesting read. The part about Bush with the former CIA station chief of Greece speaks volumes.

Having said that, when Madeleine Duncan Brown asked Lyndon Johnson on 12/31/63 WHO murdered John Kennedy, LBJ did NOT say the Rothchilds and the British... or the Zionists for that matter.

Lyndon Johnson said it was TEXAS OIL AND THE CIA! He just left himself out ...

Madeleine Duncan Brown was the most beloved mistress of Lyndon Johnson for 21 years from 1948 until 1969. Madeleine is one of the truth tellers and keys to understanding the ugly reality of the JFK assassination. She had a son Steven Mark with Lyndon in 1950. Madeleine lived from 1925 to 2002 and was madly in love with Lyndon Johnson when she wrote the book Texas in the Morning 24 years after the death of LBJ. She makes some BLOCKBUSTER revelations in this book, such as:

In the night of 12/31/63 morning of January 1, 1964, just 6 weeks after the JFK assassination, Madeleine asked Lyndon Johnson:

"Lyndon, you know that a lot of people believe you had something to do with President Kennedy's assassination."

He shot up out of bed and began pacing and waving his arms screaming like a madman. I was scared!

"That's bull___, Madeleine Brown!" he yelled. "Don't tell me you believe that ____!"

"Of course not." I answered meekly, trying to cool his temper.

"It was Texas oil and those %$%& renegade intelligence bastards in Washington." [said Lyndon Johnson, the new president; Texas in the Morning, p. 189] [LBJ told this to Madeleine on 1/1/64 in the locally famous Driskill Hotel, Austin, TX in room #254. They spent New Year's Eve `64 together here (12/31/63). Room #254 was the room that LBJ used to have rendevous' with his girlfriends - today it is known as the LBJ Room, and rents for $600-1,000/night as a Presidential suite at the Driskill; located on the Mezzanine Level.]

What Lyndon Johnson did not tell Madeleine was that Texas Oil (read H.L. Hunt, Clint Murchison, Sr) and the CIA (especially the Gen Ed Lansdale, Operation 40/Operation Mongoose crowd) were murdering John Kennedy with the full knowledge, approval and participation of VP Lyndon Johnson.

Two extremely important books to read:

1) LBJ: Mastermind of JFK's Assassination (2010) by Phillip Nelson which references Madeleine Brown several times. http://www.lbj-themastermind.com/

2) JFK and the Unspeakable: Why He Died and Why it Matters (2008) by James Douglass. These 2 books read together are potent and very informative. Review: http://www.ctka.net/2008/jfk_unspeakable.html

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In the interview Steve mentions an important article in Probe regarding Clay Shaw. The article appeared in the Mar-Apr. 1996 issue and was written by Lisa Pease. The title of the article is “David Atlee Phillips, Clay Shaw, and Freeport Sulphur”. In the article Lisa Pease quotes a memo written by Sciambra to Jim Garrison. It said, “A memo in the GUY BANISTER file indicates that there is information which reports that DICK WHITE, a high official of Freeport Sulphur, and CLAY SHAW were flown to Cuba probably taking off from the Harvey Canal area in a Freeport Sulphur plane piloted by DAVE FERRIE. The purpose of this trip was to set up import of Cuba’s nickel ore to a Canadian front corporation which would in turn ship to the Braithwaite nickel plant. The plant was built by the U.S. Government at a cost of about one million dollars.”

Mr. White’s name was really Charles A. Wight, and he was a Director and Chairman of the Executive Committee of Freeport Sulphur. Another influential person in Freeport Sulphur was John (“Jock”) Whitney. He was a member of the pro-British, anti-American Pilgrim Society according to Congressman Thorkelson who made some remarks regarding the Pilgrims in 1940. Jock’s father and grandfather were members of Skull and Bones and Jock himself was a knight of St. John of Jerusalem and honorary commander of the Order of the British Empire, according to Prof. Donald Gibson. He also belonged to the Metropolitan Club with Allen Dulles. That Freeport Sulphur is a representative client of Doyle Smith and Doyle highlights the conspiratorial significance of that mysterious law firm.

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In the interview Steve mentions an important article in Probe regarding Clay Shaw. The article appeared in the Mar-Apr. 1996 issue and was written by Lisa Pease. The title of the article is "David Atlee Phillips, Clay Shaw, and Freeport Sulphur". In the article Lisa Pease quotes a memo written by Sciambra to Jim Garrison. It said, "A memo in the GUY BANISTER file indicates that there is information which reports that DICK WHITE, a high official of Freeport Sulphur, and CLAY SHAW were flown to Cuba probably taking off from the Harvey Canal area in a Freeport Sulphur plane piloted by DAVE FERRIE. The purpose of this trip was to set up import of Cuba's nickel ore to a Canadian front corporation which would in turn ship to the Braithwaite nickel plant. The plant was built by the U.S. Government at a cost of about one million dollars."

Mr. White's name was really Charles A. Wight, and he was a Director and Chairman of the Executive Committee of Freeport Sulphur. Another influential person in Freeport Sulphur was John ("Jock") Whitney. He was a member of the pro-British, anti-American Pilgrim Society according to Congressman Thorkelson who made some remarks regarding the Pilgrims in 1940. Jock's father and grandfather were members of Skull and Bones and Jock himself was a knight of St. John of Jerusalem and honorary commander of the Order of the British Empire, according to Prof. Donald Gibson. He also belonged to the Metropolitan Club with Allen Dulles. That Freeport Sulphur is a representative client of Doyle Smith and Doyle highlights the conspiratorial significance of that mysterious law firm.

I tend to agree with Steve that there is a buried history, which he exposes, to a certain degree. An example of this buried history has at times surfaced in the geopolitical

world at times of crisis. For instance the P-2 Scandal connected American Intelligence, the Vatican banker Roberto Calvi, who amassed outrageous sums of money, siphoned

from his position as Vatican banker and was found hanging from a bridge on June 28, 1982. The Red Brigades and Aldo Moro are not mutually exclusive in this period of history.

On the Oswald family thread just a couple of days ago, I discovered an Adele Oswald was an opera singer who visited Dallas in 1909; her father was a John Oswald who was a politician in Chicago, Illinois circa 1909. Yet little if anything

can be ascertained about him, except that.......

re below; political graveyard website lists

Oswald, Louis William — of Illinois. Democrat. Candidate for U.S. Representative from

Illinois 11th District, 1946. Still living as of 1946.

http://politicalgraveyard.com/bio/oswald-othneil.html#OSWALD

An Oswald family connection to the city that Jack Ruby grew up in seems not unimportant to me. Furthermore "an" Adele Oswald was interviewed in

the Warren Commission era

See

Mrs Adele F. Oswald, 2018 General Pershing Street

http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=10477&relPageId=160

It is not known whether she is the same Adele Oswald who was earlier an acclaimed opera singer.

Then digging for her, [the Adele Oswald opera singer] obituary I came across the following.......

New York Times, The (NY) - January 26, 1981

Deceased Name: ADELE ASTAIRE, DANCER-COMEDIAN, DIES

Adele Marie Astaire, the pixieish dancer who captivated audiences in New York and London in many musical comedies of the 1920's with her brother and dance partner, Fred, died yesterday in Phoenix at the age of 83. Members of the family said she had suffered a stroke on Jan. 6 and never recovered consciousness.

Miss Astaire had been beset by illness in recent years, according to, Kingman Douglass Jr. of Chicago, her stepson. "But she had enormous recuperative powers," he said, "and soon would be up and in Marine-type English telling what she thought of the world."

Miss Astaire had lived in Phoenix since her second husband, Kingman Douglass, died in 1971. She had spent summers until two years ago in Ireland, at the castle she shared with her first husband, the late Lord Charles Cavendish.Appeared in 'Funny Face'

The diminutive, dark-haired comedian starred in 11 musicals with her brother, who is two years her junior. Among the more memorable were "Funny Face," "Lady, Be Good," "The Band Wagon," "For Goodness' Sake" - retitled "Stop Flirting" in London - and "Apple Blossoms."

Miss Astaire left show business in 1932 to become the wife of Lord Cavendish, the second son of the ninth Duke of Devonshire. Their romance was something of an international sensation, as she kept putting off accepting Lord Charles's proposal until she had one final hit show.

At the time of their engagement she was performing in Florenz Ziegfeld's "Smiles," which received less than happy reviews when it opened in 1930. Although "Smiles" was a dud, reviewers, such as Brooks Atkinson of The New York Times, singled out the Astaires for praise:

"Strictly speaking, the Astaires are dancers. But they have more than one string to their fiddle. With them, dancing is comedy of manners, very much in the current mode. Free of show-shop trickery, they plunge with spirit into the midst of the frolic. Once to the tune of 'If I Were You, Love,' with a squealing German band accompaniment, they give dancing all the mocking grace of improvisation with droll dance inflections and with comic changes of pace. Adele Astaire is also an impish comedian; she can give sad lines a gleam of infectious good-nature. Slender, agile and quickwitted, the Astaires are ideal for the American song-and-dance stage."Left Stage and Her Brother

After "The Band Wagon," at the pinnacle of her career, she left the stage and her brother for Lismore Castle in County Waterford, Ireland, from which producers tried repeatedly to lure her. Mr. Astaire went on to greater fame on the screen with Ginger Rogers.

Fred said of his sister on her retirement, "She was a great artist and inimitable, and the grandest sister anybody could have." He had followed her into dancing. When he was 4 and she was 6, their parents sent him to her dance classes so he could keep her company, but he got interested.

The marriage of Lord and Lady Charles, though happy, was marked by tragedy. A daughter was born in 1933, and died the same day. Two years later, twin sons, who were born prematurely, died within hours of their births. She was to have no more children. Some time later, Lord Charles fell ill from a liver ailment that made him an invalid.

During World War II, at the urging of her husband, Miss Astaire worked at a famous Red Cross canteen in London, the Rainbow Corner, helping out at the information desk, dancing with G.I.'s and shopping and writing letters for them. To the letters she signed herself, "Adele Astaire (Fred's sister)."Married for Second Time

On March 23, 1944, Lord Charles died. Three years later, on April 28, 1947, Miss Astaire was married to Mr. Douglass, whom she had met at the Rainbow Corner. It was his second marriage. In 1950, he became assistant director of the Central Intelligence Agency, a post he held for two years before resuming his career in finance. He became a partner in Dillon Read & Company, retiring before his death in New York in 1971.

Adele Marie Austerlitz was born in Omaha, Neb., on Sept. 10, 1898, to Fredrick Austerlitz, a brewer from Vienna, and the former Ann Geilus, a native of Omaha. In 1904, the family moved to New York, where Adele and Fred, the only children, were enrolled in the Alviene School of Dance. Until then, they had been tutored by their mother.

The Astaires appeared in their first vaudeville show in New York in 1912, and had their first triumph on Broadway in 1917, with "Over the Top" at the Winter Garden.

Besides her brother and stepson, Miss Astaire is survived by two other stepsons, Howard James Douglass of Chicago and William Angus Douglass of London.

Private services will be held in Phoenix and Beverly Hills, Calif.

What is odd is that the Kennedy family has a connection to the British Cavendish family.

See JFK: A Complete Biography 1917-1963 pg 131, by Carr, William H.A. (1968)

APPOINTMENT IN THE SOLOMONS For the Kennedy family 1944 was a year of almost unbearable grief Kick

flew back to England where the Cavendish family took her to its bosom She remained in England more

Triumph and Tragedy pg 101, by The Associated Press (1968)

the family of her late husband her adopted family Friends said she ["Kick"] had become more Cavendish than Kennedy

Had her husband survived the war Kathleen most likely would have been chief Lady In Waiting

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In the interview Steve mentions an important article in Probe regarding Clay Shaw. The article appeared in the Mar-Apr. 1996 issue and was written by Lisa Pease. The title of the article is "David Atlee Phillips, Clay Shaw, and Freeport Sulphur". In the article Lisa Pease quotes a memo written by Sciambra to Jim Garrison. It said, "A memo in the GUY BANISTER file indicates that there is information which reports that DICK WHITE, a high official of Freeport Sulphur, and CLAY SHAW were flown to Cuba probably taking off from the Harvey Canal area in a Freeport Sulphur plane piloted by DAVE FERRIE. The purpose of this trip was to set up import of Cuba's nickel ore to a Canadian front corporation which would in turn ship to the Braithwaite nickel plant. The plant was built by the U.S. Government at a cost of about one million dollars."

Mr. White's name was really Charles A. Wight, and he was a Director and Chairman of the Executive Committee of Freeport Sulphur. Another influential person in Freeport Sulphur was John ("Jock") Whitney. He was a member of the pro-British, anti-American Pilgrim Society according to Congressman Thorkelson who made some remarks regarding the Pilgrims in 1940. Jock's father and grandfather were members of Skull and Bones and Jock himself was a knight of St. John of Jerusalem and honorary commander of the Order of the British Empire, according to Prof. Donald Gibson. He also belonged to the Metropolitan Club with Allen Dulles. That Freeport Sulphur is a representative client of Doyle Smith and Doyle highlights the conspiratorial significance of that mysterious law firm.

I tend to agree with Steve that there is a buried history, which he exposes, to a certain degree. An example of this buried history has at times surfaced in the geopolitical

world at times of crisis. For instance the P-2 Scandal connected American Intelligence, the Vatican banker Roberto Calvi, who amassed outrageous sums of money, siphoned

from his position as Vatican banker and was found hanging from a bridge on June 28, 1982. The Red Brigades and Aldo Moro are not mutually exclusive in this period of history.

On the Oswald family thread just a couple of days ago, I discovered an Adele Oswald was an opera singer who visited Dallas in 1909; her father was a John Oswald who was a politician in Chicago, Illinois circa 1909. Yet little if anything

can be ascertained about him, except that.......

re below; political graveyard website lists

Oswald, Louis William — of Illinois. Democrat. Candidate for U.S. Representative from

Illinois 11th District, 1946. Still living as of 1946.

http://politicalgrav...eil.html#OSWALD

An Oswald family connection to the city that Jack Ruby grew up in seems not unimportant to me. Furthermore "an" Adele Oswald was interviewed in

the Warren Commission era

See

Mrs Adele F. Oswald, 2018 General Pershing Street

http://www.maryferre...7&relPageId=160

It is not known whether she is the same Adele Oswald who was earlier an acclaimed opera singer.

Then digging for her, [the Adele Oswald opera singer] obituary I came across the following.......

New York Times, The (NY) - January 26, 1981

Deceased Name: ADELE ASTAIRE, DANCER-COMEDIAN, DIES

Adele Marie Astaire, the pixieish dancer who captivated audiences in New York and London in many musical comedies of the 1920's with her brother and dance partner, Fred, died yesterday in Phoenix at the age of 83. Members of the family said she had suffered a stroke on Jan. 6 and never recovered consciousness.

Miss Astaire had been beset by illness in recent years, according to, Kingman Douglass Jr. of Chicago, her stepson. "But she had enormous recuperative powers," he said, "and soon would be up and in Marine-type English telling what she thought of the world."

Miss Astaire had lived in Phoenix since her second husband, Kingman Douglass, died in 1971. She had spent summers until two years ago in Ireland, at the castle she shared with her first husband, the late Lord Charles Cavendish.Appeared in 'Funny Face'

The diminutive, dark-haired comedian starred in 11 musicals with her brother, who is two years her junior. Among the more memorable were "Funny Face," "Lady, Be Good," "The Band Wagon," "For Goodness' Sake" - retitled "Stop Flirting" in London - and "Apple Blossoms."

Miss Astaire left show business in 1932 to become the wife of Lord Cavendish, the second son of the ninth Duke of Devonshire. Their romance was something of an international sensation, as she kept putting off accepting Lord Charles's proposal until she had one final hit show.

At the time of their engagement she was performing in Florenz Ziegfeld's "Smiles," which received less than happy reviews when it opened in 1930. Although "Smiles" was a dud, reviewers, such as Brooks Atkinson of The New York Times, singled out the Astaires for praise:

"Strictly speaking, the Astaires are dancers. But they have more than one string to their fiddle. With them, dancing is comedy of manners, very much in the current mode. Free of show-shop trickery, they plunge with spirit into the midst of the frolic. Once to the tune of 'If I Were You, Love,' with a squealing German band accompaniment, they give dancing all the mocking grace of improvisation with droll dance inflections and with comic changes of pace. Adele Astaire is also an impish comedian; she can give sad lines a gleam of infectious good-nature. Slender, agile and quickwitted, the Astaires are ideal for the American song-and-dance stage."Left Stage and Her Brother

After "The Band Wagon," at the pinnacle of her career, she left the stage and her brother for Lismore Castle in County Waterford, Ireland, from which producers tried repeatedly to lure her. Mr. Astaire went on to greater fame on the screen with Ginger Rogers.

Fred said of his sister on her retirement, "She was a great artist and inimitable, and the grandest sister anybody could have." He had followed her into dancing. When he was 4 and she was 6, their parents sent him to her dance classes so he could keep her company, but he got interested.

The marriage of Lord and Lady Charles, though happy, was marked by tragedy. A daughter was born in 1933, and died the same day. Two years later, twin sons, who were born prematurely, died within hours of their births. She was to have no more children. Some time later, Lord Charles fell ill from a liver ailment that made him an invalid.

During World War II, at the urging of her husband, Miss Astaire worked at a famous Red Cross canteen in London, the Rainbow Corner, helping out at the information desk, dancing with G.I.'s and shopping and writing letters for them. To the letters she signed herself, "Adele Astaire (Fred's sister)."Married for Second Time

On March 23, 1944, Lord Charles died. Three years later, on April 28, 1947, Miss Astaire was married to Mr. Douglass, whom she had met at the Rainbow Corner. It was his second marriage. In 1950, he became assistant director of the Central Intelligence Agency, a post he held for two years before resuming his career in finance. He became a partner in Dillon Read & Company, retiring before his death in New York in 1971.

Adele Marie Austerlitz was born in Omaha, Neb., on Sept. 10, 1898, to Fredrick Austerlitz, a brewer from Vienna, and the former Ann Geilus, a native of Omaha. In 1904, the family moved to New York, where Adele and Fred, the only children, were enrolled in the Alviene School of Dance. Until then, they had been tutored by their mother.

The Astaires appeared in their first vaudeville show in New York in 1912, and had their first triumph on Broadway in 1917, with "Over the Top" at the Winter Garden.

Besides her brother and stepson, Miss Astaire is survived by two other stepsons, Howard James Douglass of Chicago and William Angus Douglass of London.

Private services will be held in Phoenix and Beverly Hills, Calif.

What is odd is that the Kennedy family has a connection to the British Cavendish family.

See JFK: A Complete Biography 1917-1963 pg 131, by Carr, William H.A. (1968)

APPOINTMENT IN THE SOLOMONS For the Kennedy family 1944 was a year of almost unbearable grief Kick

flew back to England where the Cavendish family took her to its bosom She remained in England more

Triumph and Tragedy pg 101, by The Associated Press (1968)

the family of her late husband her adopted family Friends said she ["Kick"] had become more Cavendish than Kennedy

Had her husband survived the war Kathleen most likely would have been chief Lady In Waiting

Well, I hesitate to post this URL, because knowing a little about being obsessed, I am afraid some people might not ever come out....lol

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/sociopol_pilgrimsociety02i.htm

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