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  1. David Von Pein

    A question to David Lifton

    Let me remind you, Ray, what one of the conspiracy theorists' all-time favorite Parkland witnesses, Dr. Robert McClelland, had to say in both 1988 and again in 2009 about the size of the tracheotomy wound in JFK's throat.... ~~~~~~~~~ "The next time some conspiracy buff brings up the "gaping" nature of JFK's trach wound, show them the video on this webpage of Dr. Robert McClelland saying on PBS-TV in 1988 that the trach incision in the autopsy pictures looks "exactly the same size and the same configuration" as it was when he saw it at Parkland. .... And even though I think Dr. McClelland is as kooky as a 9-dollar bill with regard to his comments concerning the location of JFK's large head wound, I certainly don't have any reason to think he's kooky about his comments regarding the trach wound -- and that's because I don't believe for a single second that anybody "altered" any of JFK's wounds between Parkland and Bethesda." -- David Von Pein; November 2013 ~~~~~~~~~ "Some people have even said 'Oh, that tracheostomy has been altered; it's too big a wound'. Well, I can speak for that -- no, it had not been altered. That's exactly the way it was made at Parkland. It's just that people expected it to be smaller." -- Dr. Robert McClelland; 2009 http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/Dr. Malcolm Perry, David Lifton, And The Trach Wound
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    A question to David Lifton

    Hi Francois, While I don't think the scenario you laid out above actually happened on 11/22/63, I will say that your scenario is definitely more believable (and doable) than the outlandish "pre-autopsy autopsy" conspiracy theory put forth by David Lifton. For the sake of argument, however, I'm wondering something.... If your "The Secret Service Took JFK's Body Out Of The Casket" scenario were true, then why did every single person who would have witnessed such an event decide to lie about it and say that the President's body was never removed from the casket at all? (That would include all of the Secret Service agents who would have been involved in such an action, plus many Kennedy aides, such as Ken O'Donnell and David Powers, plus Mrs. Jacqueline Kennedy (who never said anything about such an extremely odd---albeit non-conspiratorial---event occurring aboard Air Force One on November 22nd.) I would think if the situation were the benign and innocent event that you propose, then the truth of that event would likely have surfaced (at least many years later, if not sooner) via at least one or two of the people aboard the plane that day. But I like the general idea that Francois has brought forth here --- that is, the idea that even some of the wildest and outrageous conspiracy theories could conceivably have a non-sinister and non-conspiratorial explanation after all.
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    I Was a Teenage JFK Conspiracy Freak

    I'm not "out of sorts" at all, Cliff. I'm just having a little fun. And, no, I wasn't really rooting for the Dodgers in Game 5 last night --- although it would have been nice to see the Series go longer than five games. I always want the World Series to go to Game 7. Who doesn't? (BTW/OT, to anyone who is a "Big Red Machine" fan like me, you'll like this very good interview I found last night. Good stuff....)
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    I Was a Teenage JFK Conspiracy Freak

    My title for Fred's third book is much better. (And I revised it after you quoted it above too. It's even better now. I'm just worried that the title might be a little too long once we add the subtitle.)
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    I Was a Teenage JFK Conspiracy Freak

    And the third installment of Fred Litwin's trilogy of truth will very likely be entitled "I Was A Crusty Old Fart Who Was Sick To Death Of Arguing Incessantly With JFK Conspiracy Theorists Whose Theories Have Never Once Come Together In A Cohesive And/Or Believable Manner And Have Never Made A Lick Of (Common) Sense" (©2027 Three Cheers For Common Sense In The JFK Case! Publishing Co., Inc.).
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    I Was a Teenage JFK Conspiracy Freak

    I agree.... http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/jfk-beyond-magic-bullet.html "All-in-all, the Discovery Channel broadcast did an amazing job at replicating the damage path and general characteristics of CE399. The test bullet exited the JFK mock body much lower than the real 399 did in '63, true. I certainly cannot deny this obvious difference. But we must keep in mind that a PERFECT re-creation can never be fully achieved, with every single "human" nuance accounted for (since only mock torsos were utilized in the re-creation). With some unavoidable limitations in mind, the SBT re-creation done by the Australian team of JFK researchers in early October of 2004 is as close to the real event that I believe we're likely to ever see. And the results most certainly do not debunk the likelihood of the Single- Bullet Conclusion. To the contrary -- the results of that re-creation enhance the viability of the Warren Commission's one-bullet conclusion greatly." -- DVP; December 2004
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    Kennedy Videos

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    Kennedy Videos

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    FBI shows KLEINS never got C2766

    Excerpt from the marathon "Money Order" discussion (2015—2018).... SANDY LARSEN SAID: I just go where the evidence leads me, David. The money order wasn't processed, and probably wasn't even deposited in the bank. DAVID VON PEIN SAID: Okay, Sandy. Believe what you want. But I disagree. But can you give me your opinion as to why the alleged plotters were so incompetent when it came to pretty much everything relating to the alleged "phony" rifle purchase? E.G., 1.) Wrong paper stock used for the money order. 2.) No bank stamps. 3.) The rifle order and money order go from Dallas to Chicago in 24 hours, which is an impossibility if we're to believe the conspiracy theorists.* 4.) They "shipped" the WRONG RIFLE, per DiEugenio and other CTers (sending "Hidell" a 40-inch Carcano instead of the 36-incher that "Hidell" ordered via the American Rifleman magazine ad). Why did they manufacture that little piece of confusion if the ENTIRE rifle transaction is nothing but a fantasy from the ground up---including ALL of the paperwork? 5.) They forgot the proper legal forms for the rifle (which CTers insist should have been included with the rifle shipment; although Jean Davison in the past has made it quite clear, via documentation, that such a legal requirement only applied to HANDGUNS in 1963, not rifles). * Incredibly, however, a letter that was mailed in January 1952 could go all the way across the country overnight--from California to New York. (Audio below.) --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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    FBI shows KLEINS never got C2766

    Are you referring to the "Out of Sequence" theory, in which CTers imply that the Oswald/Hidell money order couldn't have been purchased in March of '63 because the serial number on it is way too high? Well, that's always been a very silly and easy-to-debunk theory that CTers like John Armstrong just haven't thought through logically.... http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1058.html#The-Serial-Number-On-The-Money-Order
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    I Was a Teenage JFK Conspiracy Freak

    ROBERT FRAZIER -- "There was located on the rear of the coat 5 3/8 inches below the top of the collar, a hole, further located as 1 3/4 inches to the right of the midline or the seam down the center of the coat; all of these being as you look at the back of the coat." ROBERT FRAZIER -- "I found on the back of the shirt a hole, 5 3/4 inches below the top of the collar, and as you look at the back of the shirt 1 1/8 inch to the right of the midline of the shirt, which is this hole I am indicating."
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    FBI shows KLEINS never got C2766

    ~ big sigh ~ Once again, we have to endure a conspiracy theorist looking for reasons to justify what they want to believe --- in this instance (yet again) a CTer who wants to believe that Oswald never once touched Rifle No. C2766, even though there's a vast amount of evidence to prove that LHO owned and possessed that exact weapon. http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/12/Oswald Ordered The Rifle http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/10/The Hidell Money Order http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/04/Guns And Other Evidence
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    I Was a Teenage JFK Conspiracy Freak

    Yeah, you're probably right. But the way it's phrased, it looks like Mr. Bulman is asking me to pick between two "Old JFK assassination freaks". 😜
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    I Was a Teenage JFK Conspiracy Freak

    Aren't I even in the running? (I'm crushed.)
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    I Was a Teenage JFK Conspiracy Freak

    Which means you have to think that the Z-Film has been "faked or altered" as well, right? Because Mr. Zapruder's motion picture most certainly does NOT show any of the BACK of JFK's head being blown out by the force of the head-shot bullet.... http://drive.google.com / video / The Zapruder Film / Version Created By DVP Utilizing Each Of The Film's 486 Individual Frames You can surely see how silly the "faked or altered" policy becomes when more and more items keep having to be added to a CTer's list of faked things. (And we've discussed this very thing before at this forum, of course. See link below. The merry-go-round never stops.) http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1072.html#There Is No Large Wound In The Back Of JFK's Head
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    I Was a Teenage JFK Conspiracy Freak

    There's no possible way that could have happened, and this X-ray below (which the HSCA said "had not been altered in any manner" [7 HSCA 41]) proves it. There's not even the tiniest piece of the BACK of President Kennedy's head missing....
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    I Was a Teenage JFK Conspiracy Freak

    From a 2014 discussion.... DVP SAID: President Kennedy's suit coat is unquestionably hiked up on his back in the Croft picture at circa Z161. That's not even debatable. Now, given that undeniable FACT (unless someone wants to pretend that Robert Croft's picture has been faked too), it means the suit coat is going to have a hole in it that is lower than the wound in JFK's skin. Correct? And since there's only one bullet hole in the back of JFK's shirt and only one bullet hole in the upper back (skin) of John F. Kennedy's body too---well, it's pretty obvious to see where I'm going with this, right? And, to reiterate -- Why on Earth do CTers think it would be an impossible feat to have somebody's shirt and jacket bunched up IN UNISON on a person's back? But to hear CTers like Cliff Varnell tell it, that "double bunching" thing is more improbable than flying to the moon in a Cessna. ~big shrug~ It only goes to show--once again--the lengths that some conspiracy hounds will go to in order to inject suspicion and doubt and alleged "conspiracy" into every nook and cranny of the JFK murder case---even though there's no need to inject such things into this particular sub-topic regarding the President's clothing whatsoever. And btw, a picture was produced by Jean Davison a few years ago (the one below) showing JFK wearing a shirt that is "bunched up" near his neck. But according to some CTers, I guess maybe this is merely an illusion I'm seeing here.... And Cliff Varnell and other Education Forum members know about the above picture, too. It was discussed right here in this thread. Naturally, Cliff doesn't think it has any relevance at all. But I think Cliff is all wet, and I set him straight here [excerpted below]. "Of course, your argument about Kennedy's shirt is (and always has been) an unprovable one since we can't see the back of JFK's shirt in any of the motorcade photos. Therefore, you cannot possibly prove that it's "impossible" for his shirt to have been bunched-up in unison with his suit coat." -- DVP; June 22, 2011
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    I Was a Teenage JFK Conspiracy Freak

    Me neither. I never have understood it.... http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/search?q=Cliff+Varnell
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    I Was a Teenage JFK Conspiracy Freak

    That's an incredibly brazen statement for anyone to make. And an incredibly silly one, to boot. You, Cliff, should face the FACT that you don't really have any idea how much "bunching" was occurring with JFK's COAT or SHIRT when Kennedy was being shot in Dealey Plaza. You keep PRETENDING you do have all this knowledge....but you don't. And you KNOW you don't. You're just blowing more smoke. As usual.
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    I Was a Teenage JFK Conspiracy Freak

    From a June 2018 discussion here at this forum.... "Isn't it amazing that there just happened to be another bullet hole on the opposite side of JFK's body to meet the "SBT" needs of Mr. Specter, et al? Has any conspiracy theorist in history ever made this basic observation?.... Boy, those assassins were sure a bunch of lucky sons of bitches when the guy who shot JFK in the throat from the front managed to hit Kennedy in exactly the right spot on his body so that (later on) the official investigators could utilize that entry wound in the throat as the point of exit for the SBT bullet. And then the multiple assassins got even luckier when the upper-back bullet and the bullet that entered the throat both decided not to exit the body and then both of those bullets vanished into puffs of smoke before either of those bullets (which obviously were still inside JFK's body when he was inside Trauma Room No. 1 at Parkland Hospital) could be seen by any non-conspirator. Can anyone truly believe that such incredible good fortune could possibly have existed amongst the (alleged) multiple shooters who were (allegedly) firing bullets at President Kennedy on 11/22/63? (And yet CTers have the gall to tell me that I am the one who believes in "Magic Bullets". Oy vey!)" --DVP; June 2018 More.... http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/sbt-perfection-of-ce903.html#The-Incredibly-Lucky-Plotters
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    I Was a Teenage JFK Conspiracy Freak

    No shock at all. Of course the bullet entered JFK's BACK (not his NECK). I've NEVER argued anything else. And you won't find any post of mine saying otherwise. I've always said "Upper Back", not "Neck" for the bullet's entry point. For example, in this post here (which I previously linked to in this thread), I said.... "Why are you [Anthony Marsh] stating that LNers "keep saying neck"? They do no such thing. LNers know the wound was in JFK's upper "back" (14 centimeters below the mastoid process), not in the "neck". Can you, Tony, post some messages of LNers saying "neck" repeatedly, in order to back up your statement that LNers "keep saying neck"? (I doubt you can.)" -- DVP; January 2018 And I've also said (many times) that the problem, IMO, is mainly just semantics---and nothing more. Also See: https://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-860.html
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    I Was a Teenage JFK Conspiracy Freak

    No, but the CTers who think the "Pen or Pencil?" discussion goes in the direction of conspiracy sure are "grasping".
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    I Was a Teenage JFK Conspiracy Freak

    I don't think he did. That type of vision is reserved for a guy named Superman. Anyway, do you think Bennett had a tape measure with him when he estimated where the bullet entered the President's back? Bennett was guessing. Simple as that.
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