George Bollschweiler

Hi John

concerning the rifle I think you made a very good point. There are two special models that are disigned and manufatured at Terni

the model - Guardi del Re- and the -Moschettieri del Duce-

both have a black rifle butt (stock)so it fitted with the black uniform of the guards.

Both have also ornaments attached and the fixation of the bajonette is different to the other models.

From the ordonary models there are 3 diffrent types made at Terni concerning the

sling-swivel. Most have a side-swivel like Serial # C2766, the serial # CB3759 is

the only one with bottom-swivel and #BZ6549, #BK4534, #BH8366, #AU8217

have both side and bottom-swivel.

Those are some of the photos that sparked the debate some years ago on alt.conspiracy.jfk.

You mentioned that this was subject to a debate years ago, what was the result?

Regards

the  issue of the side mounted sling-swivel

Is it this you are reffering to?

Why do we care?

IMO the key is the future and to master the future we have to understand the past.

The intrest an the pressure in the JFK assasination also makes it more difficult to

repeat such a thing in the future.

I’m not saying that today an assasination of a US-president is impossible but such a cover-up for sure would not be sucessful because so many would remember. So IMO the Americans have learned something.

Unfortunatly in Europe we don’t. Just take the assasination of Olof Palme as an example.

Ruby was never taken to Washington but he was allowed to take a lie detector test as he requested.

It would be interesting to know why it was refused to take Ruby to Washington. If

they were really looking for answers from Ruby and, as I did read somewhere, he

said he would talk but not in Dallas what were the reasons not to take him to Washington?

IMO the lie dedector test is even today a very argumentative technique and many

countries over here do not allow the results in court and it can not be ordered by

a prosecuter (e.g. Germany).

Let’s just pretend the following:

Officer Tippit was part of the assasination and his job was to get LHO out of town to the Red Bird Airport. For the cover of LHO he took a second uniform so it would look like two cops which was the normal case.

The plan was changed an LHO was given the signal by the police car that honked twice in front of his room. This change of course could have been the plan right from the beginning but was not told to everybody. The signal made LHO nervous so he took his weapon with him when going to the meeting point of plan B the Texas theater.

Tippit was waiting for Oswald but he did’nt show up, so Tippit rushed to the Top Ten Record Shop to make a phone call but could not reach anybody, so he went back to the streets desperatly looking for Oswald.

„Professor Bill Pulte has a possible explanation for Tippit’s erratic movements in the final minutes of his life. Hel explained that Tippit’s movements are consistent with the actions of a man frantically looking for someone.“

Tippit spotted a police car between 404 and 410 East Tenth Street. He pulls back and parks the car. After a short argument he got shoot and Oswalds ID is placed

at the murder scene. Now the have a reason to charge LHO with murder of a police

officer and he will be arrested. There might be a little chance that Oswald get shoot

during the attempt of arresting but there are further plans that bring up Ruby.

Oswald meanwhile a little late due to the traffic problems on his way home, rushes

to the Texas theater and forgets to buy a ticket. Because of the shooting in the

neighbourhood a man running is always suspicious so he’s reportet to the police.

So Tippit’s part was never more than beeing the victim of Oswald kind of the patsy of the patsy.

According to John's question I do belive that officer Tippit had a part

in the assasination. His last day on duty is very well descibed by Bill Drenas.

I'd like to add some more points to the list.

7) He stopped James A. Andrews car, searched the space between the front

and back seats and left without a word.

8) His unanswered call at 1:03 from the police dispatcher

9) The phone call he tried to make at the The Top Then Record Shop but

not getting an answer. He rush away.

"Judyth here appears to be recycling an ancient factoid which dates back to Mark Lane’s claims to the Warren Commission. Jack Ruby most certainly did know an Officer Tippit, but it was a different Tippit, and not the cop shot in Oak Cliff less than an hour after the assassination. Warren Commission Report, pp. 297-298, 368."

I've just recently read about Judyth Baker in John McAdams "Should we belive JB" and I remembered the passage about Ruby knowing an other officer named Tippit.

Who is this officer called Tippit? Has anybody some info on that?

Mr. LIEBELER. It is my understanding that on the evening of April 10, 1963, some person fired a shot at you while you were in your home on Turtle Creek Boulevard; is that correct?

General WALKER. That is correct.

Mr. LIEBELER. Would you tell us the circumstances surrounding that event, as you can now recall them?

General WALKER. I was sitting behind my desk. It was right at 9 o'clock, and most of the lights were on in the house and the shades were up. I was sitting down behind a desk facing out from a corner, with my head over a pencil and paper working on my income tax when I heard a blast and a crack right over my head.

Mr. LIEBELER. What did you do then?

General WALKER. I thought--we had been fooling with the screens on the house and I thought that possibly somebody had thrown a firecracker, that it exploded right over my head through the window right behind me. Since there is a church back there, often there are children playing back there. Then I looked around and saw that the screen was not out, but was in the window, and this couldn't possibly happen, so I got up and walked around the desk and looked back where I was sitting and I saw a hole in the wall which would have been to my left while I was sitting to my right as I looked back, and the desk was catercornered in the corner up against this wall. I noticed there was a hole in the wall, so I went upstairs and got a pistol and came back down and went out the back door, taking a look to see what might have happened.

Hey Paul

the problem I have with the "Lone gunman" theory. If LHO was that cold-

blooded hitman why did he miss Gen. Walker who was an easy target, sitting in

a well lighted room at his desk. Compared to the moving JFK , this target was only

good for "warming up" .

Tim, I think it's hard to belive, that JFK's privat life was not known by them, especially Hoover, who always tried to get his nose as deep as possible in his enemies privacy must have had these information and the relation between him and JFK was not what I would call friendly.

I agree the two Oswald issue is a very interesting aspect but I'd like to come back to Paul's issue about the necessary assasination.

As he pointed out, there was/is a greater power behind the US goverment and I think that an assasination is the most risky way to solve a problem. As you are all aware of JFK's sex and drug behavior, have there been other or better prior attemps to get rid of him for instance by revealing his personal and privat mis-behaviors to the public?

I mean even today a "nipple" on a televison program causes so much "smoke" in the US-media and the tv station got fined that revealing his habits in the 60's

must had have startet a "civil war". Or was it because the Americans were just

used to such solutions because of their history?

By the way I'm not trying to offense you Americans, ok?

George

When I was reading this all of a sudden officer Tibbit jumped into my mind! Could he have been the second one?

Hi Paul

what was the post ??

First -Happy New Year- to all of you

Since I'm interested in the JFK assasination there is one thing that, apart from many others, that pins my brain and this is LHO behavier after the shooting.

We all have various information about his involvment but what about his reasons to act so strange after the shooting. Why did he leave the TSD, why was he carring a weapon, why did he go to watch a movie after what happened just in front of his work place. Was he told to act so or did he panic? But if he only was a patsy why panic? What would have happend if he had just stayed at the TSD and

discussed the shooting with his colleges?

Thinking of all these questions make me think that LHO did put himself in this "patsy" situation but than the expression would't be accurate.

Did I miss some information or can somebody help me out on this?