Shanet Clark

Robert Gates is a dirty bird.

Ashton is correct, god knows what he was doing at Langley from 1966 to 1974.

He infiltrates the Carter administration and manipulates CIA director Stansfield Turner.

He leaks Carter's plans and strategies for dealing with Iran to the opposition party,

who treacherously engage in high stakes negotiations with the Radical Iranian Students

and apparently Gates was actually there in the Madrid/Paris meetings where the deal was

THE HOSTAGES STAY IN CAPTIVITY LONGER UNTIL REAGAN WINS

and this is the payoff, he can be Baker's man at the Pentagon now.................

Hi James, I think I found the document on the Mary Ferrell site. The document is titled:

'303 COMMITTEE MEETINGS (1964)' and is 12 pages long.

EXCELLENT file on the "5412" special operations White House committee.

Great snapshot of Bundy and Fitzgerald. THe distribution list of MCCONE,

HELMS, TAYLOR, LODGE is damning.....

This is the first I have seen of the RU/series

Researchers should keep an eye out for related documents with these acronyms:

RUEPIA

RUMSMA

RUEPCR

RUEPDA

RUEPIA (at the cia)

RUEKPA (joint chiefs of staff)

ps...........

RU/MSMA is NOT donald rumsfeld's mother :):)

Sorry I don't have attribution for this brief clip -- in close-up they look like they're reacting to a braking car.

Look at Kennedys upper right arm. At the same time as the vehicle decelerates rapidly, Kernnedy's upper right arm, his shoulder, moves back. It should move forward. It doesn't. The head striking the trapezoid muscle on the shoulder will do this. The headsnap itself is too fast. The result of it isn't.

Good point John Dolva..........Kennedy is flapping back and to his right while the Connallys are obviously

being thrown forward.......another anomaly...........

WHOA DUDES !!!!

Andy, John, Jack and I have all been on good terms for years, so maybe I can

help mediate and clarify this unfortunate passage..........

Like Larry, I got "blocked" and was not allowed to respond normally to a topic yesterday

.........until I logged in (and my software remembered my passwords for me, I haven't had

to log in in years. I suspect Jack White composed messages , attempted to send them and

got the Pink "Rejection" slip like we get we post twice inside of one minute.............

Jack, I assure you, andy and john are NEUTRAL ADMINISTRATORS of a fairly radical international

education forum, and have no occult designs on censoring your views on NASA, WTC7, OSWALD

or any thing else.................

come on Jack, the first rule is "know who your friends are"

best

shanet

Myra

I think you might be interested in my hypothesis, many members

remember my seminar thread :

"was the assassination of President Kennedy "legal" " ?

It is posted on the JFK seminar thread here at the ED FORUM:

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=2387

(good Link? I hope...)

The President is directly elected every four years in a national election.

In parliamentary governments the Prime Minister only emerges from the majority party in the house..........

Kennedy's change in US foreign policy toward a limited test ban treaty with the Soviets in June of 1963. This made the military and intelligence communities very unhappy.

Jim Root

Hmmm...did my reply fail entirely? Usually it posts and then I run the risk of a double post.

- lee

Lee

As we discussed, I am with you on the tactical magnitude and ambuscade specifics.

However, my emphasis for strategic causation follows Stephen Turner and Jim Root's line of thinking.

The motive was a mix of anti-Catholic, anti-movie star hatred of Kennedy's charisma, petty resentment in other words, vendettas against Joe Kennedy Sr., lingering reactionary hatred of Franklin Roosevelt and the New Dealers among the Naval brass and ultimately, the

powers of the Angleton /Helms Hoover/Dulles Dillon beltway inside group, the reactionary counter intelligence honchos at JCS and CIA who were resentful of a POTUS who wouldn't play along with their neoconservative brinksmanship and adventurism..........the motive was power and the transition was a concerted effort.

shanet

Who or whom?

who is this?

Ruby's clothes......B

Jack Ruby wore a jockey strap for underwear ............

Salient ambuscade:

Not consistent with Warren Commission conclusions, this thread...........

I always wondered why the CIA released the photos of the false "Oswald"

character at the Mexico City Russian Embassy when they in fact were manifestly not

Oswald.........................but only a pal of DeTorres................???

Wider view.

Great, Robin. I did not know my version was cropped from a wider view!

Jack

Good thread.

Notice how well preserved the evidence is here, no chance of tampering with the GG-300 at all............

I conclude that JFK was shot in the neck at about the point he disappears behind the sign.

COincidentally, the CIA had an umbrella that fired paralyzing darts.

But that doesn't mean that UMBRELLA MAN shot the dart into his neck, since

the aiming of the periscope sight would have been very difficult.

This is three different stories converging:

a) a man was conspicuous with an umbrella near the motorcade

b- Kennedy appears to have been shot in the neck and possibly paralyzed; and

c) it became public in the Senate Church Committee hearing that the CIA had umbrella guns........

What are you trying to post, the Cancellare photo?

Yes, James, very interesting document.

Seems he was "dissapeared" like Charles Rogers.

Wim

Indeed, Wim.

Speaking of Rogers, did you ever hear the rumors that he was alive and living in Western Australia up until at least the mid 1990's?

I was never able to get any details though.

James

Wim and James \

John Liggett, the mystery mortician from Dallas in The Men Who Killed Kennedy,

he also was

alive, then dead, then alive once again.................

Charles Black is a renowned and respected authority, one of the thoughtful moderators

of the member's educational international forum.

Efforts to besmirch this founding members probity and fairness are bound to fail.

I call upon the members to insist upon more propriety and less infantile slander.

Mr. Simkins is doing an excellent job in the face of difficult obstructions and

suspicious distractions............the threads he starts are excellent as are the

SPARTACUS files

shanet

october o6

This member believes and will state that in fact JACK WHITE

is a reliable and dependable source, and those who systematically

disagree with him are in fact disingenuous and suspect reactionaries,

interested only in the shrill crushing of independent thought and the

brittle elimination of critical thinking from our international forum.

Jack White is in fact a distinguished fellow and his opponents are truly suspect HACKS.

<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Another sad victim of inter-ocular envy, a rare form of penis envy :

Bill O' Reilly is not a reputable source.

Another sad victim of inter ocular envy :

It talks!!!

I can think of two instances where US policy and CIA programs were

hijacked by the party out of power, which amounts to

treason ---

first, when Nixon dealt with South VIetnam previous to the 1968 election,

convincing them to hold off on peace talks until Humphrey lost

and again in 1980 when bill casey flew to Paris to negotiate with

the Iranian student radicals, convincing them to hold off on releasing

the hostages until Carter was defeated ---

I think the Cuba provocations followed

this pattern ----------

Delicious.

http://hotair.com/archives/2006/10/12/vide...not-be-handled/

Brendan Slattery

There is a problem with your photo,

it seems your eyes are way too close together,

must be a problem with your software

and you should have that fixed.

No, just someone with respect for a senior researcher

who has worked hard and with courage to de-bunk the lone nut types.........

I resent spam email from the "Gang" of provocateurs clogging my

my email box. For your information, post anything you have to say

to me on this forum. I TRASH UNSOLICITED EMAILS WITHOUT READING.

If this applies to you, save your time.

Jack

Skanks with too much time on their hands........and they are jealous!