Robin Unger

Credit: Tony Fratini

Area of tiled wall corresponding to the depth of the top landing.

sounds like you are just trolling this thread Thomas, trying to take it off topic.

Tony Fratini calculation has the depth of the top landing at 4.3'

Where is Frazier in Wiegman ? is he also up against the glass, hidden in the shadows ?

This was just posted by Duncan. quote: What Depth Was The TSBD Landing On November 22nd 1963? This is a Gif I made of Dan Rather opening the TSBD glass door exit /entrance, and then walking on to the steps. Unfortunately, the landing is not in view. He does however appears to take two similar length strides/footsteps from the door exit/entrance before going down on to the top step. As the average human stride/footstep, according to most information sources I have researched is approximately 31 inches, that would make the depth of the landing from the glass door to the top step be approximately 5ft and a bit. I did a test myself, and I can verify that this estimate is a reasonable calculation.

I have seen a comment on one of the forums stating that the depth of the landing was (5) - feet ?

WC Testimony MR. BALL -- "How tall are you?" MR. FRAZIER -- "I am 6-foot, a little bit over 6-foot."

January 1964

Yes, as i tried to demonstrate with my colorization,the tiled area appears to be the same depth as the top landing. As i understand it, the glass door when opened only just missed hitting the end of the hand rail, with possibly just a couple of inches to spare.

Toni Frantini did some good work on the TSBD entrance and Prayer mans location, i am trying to find his old thread. there was some very good images in that post.

Nice Image. Looking at the William Allen photos, the top landing looks just deep enough for two cops to be standing on it , one just behind the other.

Alistair From memory i think the depth of the top landing was approx 1-metre from the end of the hand rail to the glass door. that will need to be verified. ?

Jack White 35mm Wiegman slide.

Hughes frame. In Altgens 6 we see Johnson's car and the follow up car behind it, in Hughes we can see just how close behind the follow up car the two wiegman cars were.

Altgens 6 Full frame: Credit John Woods

Myers said that the frame shown above Wiegman frame 015 equates to Zapruder frame Z-257 Altgens 6 is Zapruder frame Z-255

To my eyes Carl Jones does not appear to be looking East or West in Altgens 6 but looking straight ahead, as is Otis Williams.

Johnson's testimony can't just be ignored because it throws a spanner in your placement of Holt and Jacobs on the North west side of Elm st No FBI testimony places Holt and Jacobs on the north side of Elm st, and Johnson said that Holt and Jacobs were standing with her on the Southwest corner of Elm and Houston.

If Prayer man were standing close to the front of the top step, he would be lit by direct sunlight, and we would see him more clearly in this wiegman frame

IMO Prayer man is standing on the top step, in the corner close to the glass window. I don't see any indication that he is standing on the edge of the top step. I don't see any indication that he has one foot on the next step down.

Sandy Johnson said that Stella Jacobs was also standing with them on the South west corner of Elm and Houston. ? That would also equate to 50-yards from the TSBD.

I corrected my Zapruder image months ago in my gallery, but you continue to deliberately use the incorrect annotation labelled as Calvery you are continuing the misconception that the woman in the brown cardigan is Gloria Calvery NOT ME. as for Hicks and Reed, i am open for discussion regarding there identities.

I have an open mind, Why did you ignore my Judy Johnson Testimony, placing Gloria Jeannie Holt on the Southwest corner of Elm and Houston. ? Why do you continue to ignore Gloria Jeannei Holts own testimony placing her on the Southwest side of Elm ST ?