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Hmm.. not sure about that one. I haven't ever heard of Marion Baker's background being questionable. If shooting LHO in the building is eliminated from the scenario that leaves luring him to the Texas Theatre for execution, getting JD Tippit to shoot him or allowing him to escape to Cuba or Mexico as the only three possibilities left standing, IMO. I think giving him a lift home in the Rambler is a slightly more secure plan than letting him leave the scene under his own steam but since they had him framed up anyway it probably doesn't matter. Of those three possibilities I don't like the third one because the first two provide quick and decisive outcomes from which the conspirators can move on to the next phase of the coverup. Allowing him to flee the country means he's still alive, however temporarily, and able to give voice to the injustice of his new circumstances and possibly mention a few names. That brings it down to two. I tend to think the plan called for him to be shot in the theatre as its more secure than leaving the task to a lone cop. Maybe having Tippet on standby was a backup plan in case Oswald didn't show up at the theatre. Question is, was Tippett's death a genuine bungle or was it staged to reinforce the facade of a desperate criminal on the run? Either way, his execution at the theatre was bungled so we at least have the satisfaction of knowing the conspirators probably developed ulcers from worry over that weekend.
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It seems to me that Oswald's escape would have involved better planning than that. How would the conspirators know that after shooting JFK on Elm Street, the street would promptly be reopened to traffic, so Oswald could come out and be picked up on Elm? I believe Craig also said he heard the man whistle for the Rambler, as if saying, "Hey, don't forget me!" It just strikes me as a haphazard way of getting away, unless, of course, Oswald wasn't supposed to get away but to be shot in the building. Hi Mark and Ron, I know that this is probably a silly question, but I wonder if anyone knows whether or not the real LHO could even whistle like that........ FWIW, Thomas Thomas, Like Ron, I can't whistle like that either though not from lack of trying. My 16 year old son can do that two finger whistle so loud birds fly out of trees. I'm so lame. Your question is an interesting one, though. I wonder if Marina has ever been asked. Ron, when you suggest LHO was supposed to be shot in the TSBD, do you mean by the cops?
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Jim Garrison and Oliver Stone
Mark Stapleton replied to Lynne Foster's topic in JFK Assassination Debate
Dawn, Terri and Bernice, I think Lynne's deliberately goading you. I wouldn't bother with her. -
I was surprised to read the other day that they don't even have anything close to universal health care in "Communist" China. I believe it was an article in Newsweek, said that poor people in China don't even bother trying to go to a hospital, because you have to bribe the doctors and poor people don't have the money. I thought that "to each according to his need" was supposed to be one of the benefits of Communism. (I should add, though, that I don't really trust anything I read in Newsweek or Time, which like all the establishment media are purveyors of U.S. government propaganda, including "Oswald did it.") Ron, A friend of mine recently returned from a one year stint in China working for Vodaphone. He was in one of the medium sized cities--can't recall the name--and he said that some days he had to literally step over bodies of people who had died in the street. No-one bats an eyelid.
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SYDNEY DAILY TELEGRAPH November 5, 2005. "Australian scientist and DNA expert Ian Findlay will use a powerful new technique to try to unmask the real Jack the Ripper, writes Kate Murray: Professor Findlay, of Griffith University in Queensland hopes his new cell track ID will be able to profile the DNA of both the killer and one of his victims, prostitute Catherine Eddowes. The revolutionary method needs only one cell or a single strand of hair to produce a DNA profile of the owner, and has been proven to work on cells 160 years old--16 times better than the limit of conventional DNA testing. Most DNA profiles require several cells to create a "fingerprint" and existing techniques cannot be used on old or damaged DNA. But Professor Findlay used the Cell Track technique to test a brooch containing a 160 year old hair--and discovered that the single strands of hair belonged to four different people, three women and a man. "With these ancient hairs we didn't think they would work and they just worked so well", said Findlay, who is also chief scientist at the Gribbes Molecular Science independant laboratory. After his success with the brooch, a private collector in Britain contacted Findlay with a lock of hair believed to belong to Eddowes, who was murdered on September 30, 1888. More than 600 letters claiming to be from the Ripper were sent to London police during his reign of terror. Most are believed to be hoaxes but two contained body parts--one a piece of kidney and the other a piece of earlobe. Those letters could unlock the mystery. When the hair and letters arrive from England it could be just a week before the Ripper's identity is revealed. Since the Ripper was around in the 1880's it could be possible to identify him from his current descendants. Several men were suspected of being JTR and if a genetic fingerprint is obtained from the envelopes, the descendants will be contacted for a match......." Pretty incredible but if the Ripper is a complete unknown, then I guess we'll never discover his identity as we don't know who his descendants are. Not sure if all the descendants of the known suspects will agree to assist either. What do you think of it, Steve?
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I think what's more important is what LHO did in the next forty minutes. I don't believe the stuff about bus and cab rides. Roger Craig saw him run down the embankment and jump into a Nash Rambler and I believe him.
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Tim, That's what's happened. That era of fallout shelters in your youth has wired into your head the conviction that everything bad in the world, including the assassination, must have been the work of the Soviets or its allies. You should realise that the assassination of JFK is a different and unique event. For one thing, unlike all the other American assassinations, no-one confessed. The money President Reagan spent to force the Soviets into bankruptcy and collapse could have been spent on better things. Did you know the USA is the only western country without some form of universal health care? Trouble is, that fact is not important to the people who run your country.
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Jim Garrison and Oliver Stone
Mark Stapleton replied to Lynne Foster's topic in JFK Assassination Debate
Mr. Knight, (since you appear to insist on this formality when referring to me) No, I didn't misunderstand your post. I read it carefully and understood it fully. Also, I do know what the expression means. Why would I have posted if I didn't know what it meant, but thanks anyway for patronisingly defining it for me. Far from bowing at the altar of Garrison, as "many apparently are", I was simply responding to what I considered to be a cheap shot at a person to whom I have high regard. If I wanted to worship Garrison I would probably be constantly starting threads about him. The thread was initiated by Lynne Foster who, with Tom Purvis, appears to harbor a visceral dislike of Garrison. That's fine. I don't know why they feel that way and I don't really care but I've always considered your posts rational and perceptive. That's why I immediately suggested you may be being a bit tough on him, considering the unfavorable circumstances under which the investigation was conducted. Insofar as Garrison building grandiose expectations, how many investigators, when prosecuting a case of such international importance, are going to talk down their chances prior to the trial? I fully acknowledge Garrison failed to achieve a conviction, the most important of his intended aims. But he still achieved plenty, even though it doesn't show on the official scorecard. Some focus only on the scorecard and disregard everything else. Unfair, IMO. I'm just trying to call it fairly and honestly too, as you claim to be doing. From my perspective, Lynne and Tom are not being fair and honest and your joining their chorus, even as a minor player, and with a smart-ass comment thrown in, warranted my response. Like you, I also stand by my comments. -
Jim Garrison and Oliver Stone
Mark Stapleton replied to Lynne Foster's topic in JFK Assassination Debate
You can't win. The Forum's well informed about Garrison. You can't run this line. You won't be able to post on other assassination issues because no one will listen--you'll have no credibility in the tank. Someone's led you up the wrong path, Lynne. -
Jim Garrison and Oliver Stone
Mark Stapleton replied to Lynne Foster's topic in JFK Assassination Debate
Lynne, To claim that Garrison was affiliated with the mob and "served their interests well" is a very long stretch. Earlier in this thread Mark Knight, in referring to Jim Garrison, used the expression "he let his alligator mouth overload his hummingbird ass". Mr. Knight was obviously quite pleased with his efforts as he referred to the expression again on another thread shortly thereafter. However, I think the expression more aptly fits Mark Knight rather than Jim Garrison. Garrison's not a suspect, he was an investigator. Although long dead, he contributed more to the case than Mark Knight or yourself ever will. -
------------------------ Gratz: Far from me to impugn the "sworn?" testimony of folks that wished they had been Hoboken, NJ that day; but, if some "gummint" official "really" asked me about having been in the same city as LHO, I would have mumbled *&^%$!! "...Say WHAT? MoFo??!! Like "Davy" told Winslow: "....Briefing...at the MI/HQ...on Sunday, November, 17th, 1963....for a security detail at MIA....NAH!!!...I think I was in Chicago that day !!" The "patsy" plotters physically controlling LHO 24/7? NOT!! They didn't then, nor they do NOW, really give a xxxx where "Ozzie" might have been standing [or squatting on a commode]!! They had MULTIPLE patsies. First, I can't believe that YOU believe that the final transcripts are actually what was said -- and if said, not coached and parroted out of sheer terror. Worse, the FBI/SS, et al. agents who later refuted many of the "302s", transcripts, LHMs -- did not always voluntarily do so, it seems that some seriously nasty folks chatted with these "darlins'" while being hosted at some rather remote and ominous locales. Scared xxxxless, is too mild of a term for those "investigator's" feelings -- as they were months later being confronted with "inaccuracies" -- by a few PAID operators. You know, the kind who are prepared to go to extremes in order to determine whether these clowns were also complicit in the hit plot, and not just "along-for-the-cover-up". One didn't have to be a Hannsen, Ames, Howard, Walker, et al. to be convinced of the many benefits of "going along" with the Hoover "script" back in the old days. Did LHO cautiously check out the "whos" standing in the doorway? -- Ya know...for his future ass-covering alibi? And then stroll on up to the 6th Floor. If he did, than he was lap-dancing with the "ouga-bouga" who was still chomping his (whole) chicken down to the bones, and washing it down with a Coke -- all the while chokin' the other chicken while leering at a girly mag. Now I get it, the lap-dance got him so angry...that he pushed the black dude out of the way and cranked off some perfect "Camp Perry" shots at the nearest targets of opportunity !! You know, LBJ and the "Babushka" gal -- but, he missed and accidentaly hit somebody else ??!! Get REAL, or give-it-up !! Kellog's Corn Flakes, GPH ____________________________________________ Not much new, but a very funny post.
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US and Non-US JFK Assassination Researchers
Mark Stapleton replied to John Simkin's topic in JFK Assassination Debate
Tim, Sadly, I must disagree once again. You claim that a Castro plot, if proved, is against the interests of your country and thus illustrates your investigative sincerity. That's wrong. Exposure of a plot implicating the US Government, military, CIA, LBJ and/or other prominent politicians (from either side) would be far more devastating for your country. That's an internal plot. Castro is an external plot. John's point is right--you're a patriot and arguing the case for Castro is the most patriotic thing to do. The other options are much worse. I'm not arguing that patriotism is a bad thing. I've often wondered how your country will reconcile itself if the truth ever outs. Mathematically, I rate the chances of an internal plot at about 99%. In fairness, I don't know how I'd react if a thing like this ever occured here. I might be in denial like some Americans. I don't think I'm that patriotic, though. I think your attack on John was a bit strong, too, although you've copped plenty yourself from many on the Forum including me. -
JFK Assassination and the Vietnam War
Mark Stapleton replied to Lynne Foster's topic in JFK Assassination Debate
Kennedy's intentions re Vietnam were complicated by the behavior of the Diem Government. Images of Buddhist monks self immolating in protest at the regime horrified the world and were the last thing Kennedy wanted to see, with his Government supporting Diem. The fact that the Diem regime was Catholic probably further embarrassed Kennedy. Dallek argues in his bio of JFK that Kennedy pursued two options: imploring Diem to cease repression of the Buddhist majority while at the same time signaling the Vietnamese generals that the US remained interested in a coup. In a September 3 meeting, JFK said, "We should wait for the generals to contact us. When they come to us we will talk to them". Speculating, perhaps the US military leadership interpreted this as a green light. In television interviews in September 1963, Kennedy said, " ...in the final analysis it is their war. They are the ones who have to win it or lose it". Historically, this statement is open to interpretation as it's not a firm commitment to withdraw from Vietnam but it tends to support the majority historical belief that Kennedy planned to act decisively on the issue after the '64 election (was won). He hated the issue as he was on a hiding to nothing. The only thing that came out of it was bad press. Further, conflicting assessments of the war added more confusion, prompting Kennedy to remark to Krulak and Mendenhall, who had submitted conflicting reports, "the two of you did visit the same country, didn't you?". There's an argument in all this that the US military leadership believed Kennedy had lost control of the situation and this could put Vietnam at the top of the reasons for JFK's assassination. If they wanted to stage this war so much, they were ruthless enough to change the leadership in both countries, IMO. They may have acted decisively before JFK had a chance to. -
Ah yes. The old "we're doing mag work and a new book about the Vatican--maybe sometime later" routine. An oldy but a goody. Gerry's still got all the skills.
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Jim Garrison and Oliver Stone
Mark Stapleton replied to Lynne Foster's topic in JFK Assassination Debate
Mr. Purvis, I seem to recall on another thread you stated that Oswald killed JFK. What was that quote about suckers again? -
Jim Garrison and Oliver Stone
Mark Stapleton replied to Lynne Foster's topic in JFK Assassination Debate
I think it's a bit of a tough call on Garrison. I don't want to sound like a rabid defender of his and Lynne Foster and Tom Purvis obviously don't like him. However, his trial was hamstrung by bureaucratic scrutiny and interference from the start, Washington, the CIA and sections of the media being the main offenders. By all accounts, he was accorded little sympathy by Johnny Carson when he appeared on the Tonight Show. Also, Ferrie was murdered and one of his witnesses changed his story after being sworn in (I can't recall his name). Overall, he didn't have a smooth run and apparently the trial judge wasn't favorably disposed to his case either. I'm only going on the book and the film JFK on this last point so I stand to be corrected. He was obviously a self publicist but it must be remembered that he was elected, making him a politician as well as DA. His alligator mouth might have raised unrealistically high expectations of closure but it also drew attention to the fact that there was something very wrong about the WC. For this he deserves credit. -
Tim Gratz: Right-Wing Extremist
Mark Stapleton replied to John Simkin's topic in JFK Assassination Debate
Robert, I agree with you entirely but the problem with Tim Gratz is that all his offerings on JFK are influenced by his right wing world view. Tim's incapable of evaluating information which doesn't conform to his pre-existing prejudices: ie. left equals bad, right equals good, a woman choosing not to give birth equals evil etc. Tim's intellectually incapable of removing his politics from his analytical skills. He lacks this ability. His constant denial of this handicap combined with his haughty dismissal of dissenters (and his disgraceful threats of legal recourse), make it difficult not to criticise him. -
Maybe, but hopefully a comprehensive shellacking in the mid-term elections will temper their hubris.
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Fascinating. I did not know about this meeting. However, I do know about the numerous phone-calls that LBJ made to journalists and politicians about the Don Reynolds problem. In fact, it has been noted that in the weeks following his arrival in the White House he was far more concerned about Reynolds than he was about Oswald. Understandably, given the testimony that Reynolds gave to the Senate Rules Committee on the day JFK was assassinated. On 17th January, 1964, the Senate Rules Committee voted to release to the public Reynolds' secret testimony. LBJ responded by leaking information from Reynolds' FBI file to Drew Pearson and Jack Anderson. On 5th February, 1964, the Washington Post reported that Reynolds had lied about his academic success at West Point. The article also claimed that Reynolds had been a supporter of Joseph McCarthy and had accused business rivals of being secret members of the American Communist Party. It was also revealed that Reynolds had made anti-Semitic remarks while in Berlin in 1953. A few weeks later the New York Times reported that LBJ had used information from secret government documents to smear Reynolds. It also reported that Johnson's officials had been applying pressure on the editors of newspapers not to print information that had been disclosed by Reynolds in front of the Senate Rules Committee. The story never took off but when the LBJ tapes were released, it was clear that the New York Times story was completely accurate. What is also interesting is that in his book "Forty Years Against the Tide", Carl Curtis, who was one of those senators calling for a full investigation into the Don Reynolds affair, admitted that he and John Williams had been relying on leaks coming from Robert Kennedy. Does anyone know what happened to Don Reynolds? I assume he must have had an accident in about 1964/65. http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKreynoldsD.htm Having not been familiar with the Reynolds affair before joining the Forum, it strains credulity to image how the media--bar the NYT-- failed to give this story oxygen, on the pretext of a smear job hand delivered by LBJ's allies. Smear or no smear, the testimony was made under oath and its contents should have been duly analysed--in public. I can only assume that the media didn't want the world--especially the Soviets--to witness U.S. Presidents falling like dominoes. Concerning the Carl Curtis book, if what he says is true about RFK leaking information about Reynolds to him (if some of those leaks were prior to the assassination) then perhaps RFK was partially responsible for spurring LBJ and friends into action--assuming they were the brains behind it.
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Jim Garrison and Oliver Stone
Mark Stapleton replied to Lynne Foster's topic in JFK Assassination Debate
Tim wrote, "the article contains numerous facts that, if true, are fairly damaging to Garrison." Tim, how can an allegation be called a "fact" before its truth or otherwise is ascertained? Sheesh. Anyway, I asked you in an earlier post to provide evidence to support the claim that Garrison met Roselli. Lynne's article didn't provide any. Merely stating that, "according to the CIA" isn't really proof, is it? The list of instances where you have been asked a reasonable question by a Forum member and failed to provide an answer is growing with each passing day. What shall I do with this one? File it with all the others? -
Forum member anagrams and JFK
Mark Stapleton replied to Ron Ecker's topic in JFK Assassination Debate
Tim, There are other funny ones for TIMOTHY GRATZ: HAT ZIG MY TORT THAT GRIT MY OZ AM TIGHT OZ TRY (are you referring to me here?) TART HOG MY ZIT (????) TART MIGHTY OZ -
Forum member anagrams and JFK
Mark Stapleton replied to Ron Ecker's topic in JFK Assassination Debate
Tim, I think I've discovered why you live relatively close to the Everglades now. It's in your anagram. Are you researching the GATOR ZIT MYTH? -
Forum member anagrams and JFK
Mark Stapleton replied to Ron Ecker's topic in JFK Assassination Debate
Ron, "Brendan's anagram generator" gave me 10,452 results when I entered my name. Memo to DPD: ASK TRAMP ELTON Memo from DPD: TRAMP LEO STANK Memo from backup team: PLAN MART SET OK Memo to Tim: AMTRAK SLEPT ON (sounds like AMTRUNK) Also, the SKATER MAN PLOT suggests Ferrie's involvement and apprehending Tippett's killer should have been a PATROLMEN TASK. Compiled by yours truly, otherwise known as PLANET SMART OK. -
Jim Garrison and Oliver Stone
Mark Stapleton replied to Lynne Foster's topic in JFK Assassination Debate
HaHa. So Tim, I am obliged to "refute the facts", am I ? What facts are these? The CIA said Garrison met Rosselli, eh? The CIA is an organisation of such unimpeachable integrity that everything they claim must be a "fact", right? And I always thought that the burden of proof lay with the claimant. Prove Garrison met Roselli, Tim. Garrison was accusing the CIA of murdering JFK wasn't he? -
Chet Helms: Arrested in Dallas
Mark Stapleton replied to John Simkin's topic in JFK Assassination Debate
Paid. Very witty. Any DP shots of Lady Penelope? In disguise?