Thomas H. Purvis

The SS report is merely a few pages from that which deals with Jack Martin. Anyone who has bottered to attempt to follow up on the "Jack Martin" lead should have also found that additional knowledge relative to the SS assassination re-enactment and filming of December 1963. "Unless there is more to the story than what I ascertained, in the sense that there is a separate person named Jack W. Martin, I personally believe the middle initial was a mistake " Anyone who has bottered to attempt to follow up on the "Jack Martin" lead should have also found that additional knowledge relative to the SS assassination re-enactment and filming of December 1963. And, they truly should have found James (Jack) W. Martin. Not that difficult at all to locate one of that name. Perhaps it is merely coincidence that he lived in Arlington and was on the "Textbook Committee" which approved all books utilized within the Dallas area schools. (And which were received from the TSDB). Mr. Dolva perhaps will explain the significance of how the "Textbook Committee's" were "stacked". Since the Mississippi Soveriegnty Commission Files contain much on this. And for Mr. Kelly: You no doubt thought that I made that one up also. Hey Tom, Why would I think you made anything up? I still can't find a connection between Jack Martin and the SS reenactment. As for your James W. Martin, of Arlington, Tx and the Texas Textbook Committee, it appears that is a development out of the Gilmer-Alkin Act of 1949 http://ritter.tea.state.tx.us/comm/tps_han...ed_reforms.html When LBJ became president, the former teacher threw a lot of money in public education. There's also this connection: In Texas, Gov. John Connally appointed a Committee on Public School Education in 1965 to prepare a viable long-range plan for national educational leadership. The committee’s report, “To Make Texas A National Leader in Public Education: The Challenge and the Change,” made recommendations to the governor and the legislature in 1969 that would serve as a practical blueprint for Texas to “attain national leadership in educational achievement.” Committee Chair Leon Jaworski said in the report, “We propose the operating units of the system be strengthened, given the resources and authority to make and implement broad educational policy decisions, and be held accountable for the results of those decisions through a continuing State program of evaluation. We believe this is the only practical way to stay abreast of the educational revolution now in progress.” They even named the Arlington, Texas High School after Mr. James White Martin, controversial because up until that time they named Texas schools after heroes, and apparently Mr. Martin wasn't one. I don't see any associations with Jack Martin, or the TSBD, although Mr. James W. Martin must have approved the books that were used at the schools and fetched and shipped by Oswald. Looks like another Wild Goose Chase. BK Jack W. Martin http://ssdi.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/ssdi.cgi ========================================== John W. Martin (common nickname "Jack") http://ssdi.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/ssdi.cgi ========================================== James W. Martin (commonly nicknamed "Jim" and/or "Jimmy", sometimes nicknamed "Jack") http://ssdi.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/ssdi.cgi ========================================== As you were informed in the sent message, James W. Martin, of whom Martin High School in Arlington, TX is named after, is the only one to whom I have found and potential direct connection. And that simply lies within the "coincidental" aspects of name; place of residence; and association to issued textbooks. That you have found nothing (anywhere of my knowledge) is not that surprising, especially when one considers that you have obviousy been looking for some "Great" sniper to accomplish the relatively simple shooting feat which occurred in Dallas on 11/22/63. Yeah! It is all realtively simple to find when someone else takes the time to research, explain, and then point it out. Glad we have you here Tom, to keep all of us misinformed individuals in line. Your comments seem to imply that there is something illogical in running down information on Jack W Martin, in light of the information so far submitted, it would be illogical not to, but it's nice to know where you stand. Regarding Jack W Martin as a suspect, I agree in light of what little is known, he should be a suspect; but if you go to NARA and enter Jack W Martin, you will find O hits, if you enter Jack Martin you get 200, and you might decide that if there is something to it, then why do practically all 200 hits reference Jack S Martin or Jack J Martin or both......There is one of those 200 documents that cites a Computer Run on “Jack Martin” see below The Index to Warren Commission Document 75 has, what I consider to be as close to a JFK Assassination Index as I have seen outside of NARA and there is no Jack W Martin indicated, the two Jack Martin’s with no middle initial, are also Jack S Martin BTW. http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...p;relPageId=765 http://www.nara.gov/cgi-bin/starfinder/17621/jfksnew.txt 104-10117-10175 104-10117-10176 In the fall of 1963 there was a Jack W Martin residing at 1439 Hudspeth LA 8-0093, it is not known if this person was the same person as the Jack W Martin mentioned in CD 87, cited by Harold Weisberg. It would come to me a surprise if it were, as he would have seemingly been difficult to intentionally overlook. What is known is that less than one year after the assassination of President Kennedy, a Kenneth Bruce Martin was convicted of the murders of Mr and Mrs Lenferd Strickland at Mountain Creek Lake in Dallas, in a case which featured Will Fritz, and D.A William Alexander. [1] Martin had been arrested previously in Camden, N.J. the previous January for aggravated assault on his wife, as well as threatening to kill her. His case was also marked by being granted a hearing after appealing his conviction due to the effect a search warrant used to convict him was later thrown out of court. 1 See “Martin Given Death Penalty” Dallas Morning News 10-17-1964. There's a Camden connection! My hometown. A dead end. Tom Pervis has also sent me on two Wild Goose chases regarding Martin, saying there is a connection with the SS Reenactment, nothing there as far as I can tell, and the James Martin textbook connection, which I find hard to link up with anything worthwhile. BK No wonder you were confused and lost in regards to the "Great Houma Arms Raid". 1. It remains "Purvis" or, CPT Pervert in event that one wishes to addres by my old SF handle. 2. Tom gave you the name of ONE & ONLY ONE Jack W. Martin as the only one ever found with any potential connection. That being an Arlington resident who was also a member of the "Textbook Committee" which approved all school textbooks utilized within the Public School System. 3. Tom neither gave you, nor stated anything relative to a "Jack W. Martin" and the SS assassination re-enactment. Guess that not unlike the "Great Houma Arms Raid", you had to add a little to the story in order to further it's credibility. Tom Pervis has also sent me on two Wild Goose chases You were chasing Wild Geese and/or mythological creatures long before I came into the scene. Guess that you have to blame being "completely lost" on someone! Got anymore of "that original research" which you would like to share with the world Bill????

The technology behind seismographic charges was complicated to many , whereas it is in reality quite simple for anyone who has a basic understanding of shock waves generated by an explosive charge. (In today's world they mostly utilize a "thumper" which hydraulically rams the ground) (for land based seismograpic work) There were several items which affected the actual "charge" to be utilized, and, not unlike Artillery, the charges were designed to compliment and increase or decrease the shock wave generated to compensate for a variety of conditions. The single biggest factor which affected the "charge" to be packed into the hole was the actual depth to which one was attempting to achieve sounding/shock wave recordings/reflections. Other aspects included known geological formations (such as clay zones; sand/water bearing zones; etc; which had generally been determined well prior by actual test drilling. There were a variety of "charge" sizes in which the actual charge could be sufficiently increased or decreased in incremental amounts in order to achieve the most accurate readings. In event that one had to send shock waves through, say a sandstone layer, then of course they would require a slightly larger charge than merely sending similar shock waves through sand and clay formations. To a large degree, in the early 1960"s, explosive charges still consisted mainly of dynamite, although TNT was also utilized by some companies. Dynamite was however considerably cheaper and when dealing with 40% to 60% it is generally relatively stable. Thus, it was to a large degree, the explosive of choice. Note: 80% can be quite unstable and is generally utilized only for blasting pure rock. http://bulk.resource.org/courts.gov/c/F2/2...76.17906_1.html Since dynamite could be ordered in a variety of "percentages" of true nitroglycerin, one can not specify a given explosive force yield unless they first know the "percent" nitro, and then of course have the manufactures data sheet. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamite As is noted in the above court case, the powder crew was utilizing a "booster", this is indicative of utilization of 40% as there are frequently times when a blasting cap alone will fail to detonate the charge. Whereas, 60% will generally detonate with no problem (assuming it has been stored properly and all of the nitro has not settled) And 80%, which is of course the most unstable, can actually be detonated through accidental impact. Now! On the return trip back to Ferrie’s apartment, some of the participants fell asleep, but were awaken by the explosion of some dynamite that was apparently thrown from the truck by Jerome Andrew Blackmon, the ex-Marine who liked to play with guns. http://www.aarclibrary.org/publib/jfk/garr...inger_0009b.htm Had there actually been a "dynamite" explosion set off, it is most unlikely that anyone would have slept through it. http://www.aarclibrary.org/publib/jfk/garr...rtens_0009a.htm "The explosion---it seemed to be the magnitude of several large firecrackers" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blasting_cap Me thinks that one of the "Yahoo's" in this little episode, chunked a blasting cap or a blasting cap with an inherent "booster" out the window after having primed it with time fuze and lighted the fuze. One can rest assured that what was exploded was not even a 1/4 stick charge of 40% as there would be no doubt in anyone's mind that a true EXPLOSIVE CHARGE had been detonated. To include anyone for a mile or so around.

Steven; Since it would appear that you have considerable interest as well as abilities in conduct of factual research, I will again provide some information which may assist in following a long and fully "cold" trail. However, first off! One must recognize the New Orleans is the home of organized crime, and it is therefore where the cellular organization concept actually originated within this organization. This same type organization was utilized throughout New Orleans during the occupation by Federal Forces during the Civil War. Only, it was utilized by those within positions of power within the New Orleans elite, in order to stymie the efforts of the Federal Troops to actually control the city. This same type cellular organization is what is utilized within the covert fields of intelligence agencies due to the efficiency in creation of confusion and false trails For these reasons, it is most unlikely that the "exact" answers to exactly who was behind LHO and his activities, will most likely never be resolved to an "absolute". Nevertheless, sufficient trails remain that one can, to a relative degree of certainty, identify individuals who were participants in the overall game, even if one can not absolutely put their finger on the most likely single individual who was directing LHO and his activities and actions. With that stated: +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Name: THE POLITICAL LEAGUE Type Entity: Non-Profit Corporation Status: Not Active (Action by Secretary of State) 2009 Annual Report/Reinstatement form is required in order to reinstate Print Annual Report/Reinstatement Form For Filing Mailing Address: 710 PERE MARQUETTE, NEW ORLEANS, LA 70112 Domicile Address: 710 PERE MARQUETTE, NEW ORLEANS, LA 70112 File Date: 02/04/1963 Registered Agent (Appointed 2/04/1963): HUBERT J. BADEAUX, 8241 HICKORY ST, NEW ORLEANS, LA 70118 Registered Agent (Appointed 2/04/1963): F. D. V. DE LA BARRE, 4122 PITT ST, NEW ORLEANS, LA 70115 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Name: GUATEMALA LUMBER & MINERAL CORPORATION Type Entity: Business Corporation Status: Not Active (Action by Secretary of State) Mailing Address: 710 PERE MARQUETTE, NEW ORLEANS, LA 70112 Domicile Address: 710 PERE MARQUETTE, NEW ORLEANS, LA 70112 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Name: ROYALTY & MINERAL OWNERS ASSOCIATION OF LOUISIANA Type Entity: Non-Profit Corporation Status: Not Active (Action by Secretary of State) 2008 Annual Report/Reinstatement form is required in order to reinstate Print Annual Report/Reinstatement Form For Filing Mailing Address: Domicile Address: NEW ORLEANS, LA 70150 File Date: 08/25/1954 Registered Agent (Appointed 8/25/1954): KALFORD K. MIAZZA, 1806 NATL BK OF COMM, NEW ORLEANS, LA 70112 Registered Agent (Appointed 8/25/1954): F. D. V DELABARRE, 1806 NATL BK OF COMM, NEW ORLEANS, LA 70112 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Name: LOUISIANA ROYALTIES, INC. Type Entity: Business Corporation Status: Not Active (Voluntary action) Last Report Filed on 08/31/C-84 Mailing Address: 1500 AMERICAN BANK BUILDING, NEW ORLEANS, LA 70130 Domicile Address: 1500 AMERICAN BANK BUILDING, NEW ORLEANS, LA 70130 File Date: 07/15/1960 Registered Agent (Appointed 7/15/1960): F.D.V. DE LA BARRE, 1501 AMERICAN BANK BUILDING, NEW ORLEANS, LA 70130 President: THOMAS D. BURBANK, 1500 AMER. BANK BLDG, NEW ORLEANS, LA 70130 Vice President: RONALD W. MISTROT, 1500 AMER. BANK BLDG, NEW ORLEANS, LA 70130 Secretary/Treasurer: LOUIS J. ROUSSEL, 1500 AMER. BANK BLDG, NEW ORLEANS, LA 70130 Additional officers may exist on document ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/roussel.htm AFFIDAVIT OF HENRY J. ROUSSEL, JR. ================================================================================ Name: CONSERVATIVE POLITICAL ASSOCIATION Type Entity: Non-Profit Corporation Status: Not Active (Action by Secretary of State) 2008 Annual Report/Reinstatement form is required in order to reinstate Print Annual Report/Reinstatement Form For Filing Mailing Address: 909 NATL BK OF COMM., NEW ORLEANS, LA 70112 Domicile Address: 909 NATL BK OF COMM., NEW ORLEANS, LA 70112 File Date: 12/22/1960 Registered Agent (Appointed 12/22/1960): FERNAND F. WILLOZ III, 1214 BOURBON ST, NEW ORLEANS, LA 70116 Registered Agent (Appointed 12/22/1960): HUBERT BADEAUX, 8241 HICKORY ST, NEW ORLEANS, LA 70118 Registered Agent (Appointed 12/22/1960): FELIX H. LAPEYRE, 2207 STATE ST, NEW ORLEANS, LA 70118 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Name: DOLLY SHOE CO., INC. Type Entity: Business Corporation Status: Not Active (Action by Secretary of State) 2009 Annual Report/Reinstatement form is required in order to reinstate Print Annual Report/Reinstatement Form For Filing Mailing Address: ', NEW ORLEANS, LA 70150 Domicile Address: ', NEW ORLEANS, LA 70150 File Date: 01/24/1955 Registered Agent (Appointed 1/24/1955): CHARLES ROSEN II, 1801 HIBERNIA BK BD., NEW ORLEANS, LA 70112 Registered Agent (Appointed 1/24/1955): FELIX H. LAPEYRE, 1801 HIBERNIA BK BD., NEW ORLEANS, LA 70112 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ It is assumed that you are aware of the employment history of Marguerite Oswald as well as LHO, with the Dolly Shoe Store. As well as the fact that the "Charles Rosen" is the one of the attorney's for whom Marguerite Oswald worked for when she was a young teenage "Marguerite Claverie". =============================================================================== Name: GREEN WAVE CLUB Type Entity: Non-Profit Corporation Status: Not Active (Action by Secretary of State) 2008 Annual Report/Reinstatement form is required in order to reinstate Print Annual Report/Reinstatement Form For Filing Mailing Address: 308 CAMP ST., NEW ORLEANS, LA 70115 Domicile Address: 308 CAMP ST., NEW ORLEANS, LA 70115 File Date: 09/27/1966 Registered Agent (Appointed 9/27/1966): CHARLES DUNBAR, HIBERNIA BLDG., NEW ORLEANS, LA 70112 Registered Agent (Appointed 9/27/1966): CHARLES ROSEN, II., 22K BARONNE ST., NEW ORLEANS, LA 70112 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Although the "Green Wave Club" did not come into official existance until 1966, Charles Rosen as well as Charles Dunbar and others had sponsored fund raising drives to support the Tulane football team for years well prior, just as they were Tulane alumni who had know each other for years. ================================================================================ A portion of which ultimately leads one back to: ================================== Name: FOR AMERICA Type Entity: Non-Profit Corporation or Co-op (Non-Louisiana) Status: Not Active (Action by Secretary of State) 2008 Annual Report/Reinstatement form is required in order to reinstate Print Annual Report/Reinstatement Form For Filing Mailing Address: 208 S LASALLE ST, CHICAGO, IL 60604 Domicile Address: 208 S LASALLE ST, CHICAGO, IL 60604 Principal Office: 208 S LASALLE ST, CHICAGO, IL 60604 Principal Bus. Est. in Louisiana: Qualified: 07/14/1954 Registered Agent (Appointed 7/14/1954): CHARLES E. DUNBAR, JR., 321 ST. CHARLES, NEW ORLEANS, LA 70130 Registered Agent (Appointed 7/14/1954): SUMTER D. MARKS, JR., 321 ST CHARLES, NEW ORLEANS, LA 70130 Registered Agent (Appointed 7/14/1954): LOUIS B. CLAVERIE, 321 ST. CHARLES, NEW ORLEANS, LA 70130 =============================== and; +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ http://www.jfk-online.com/jpsgatguat.html After leaving the FBI offices, BARRIOS and GATLIN met with a Mr. DUNBAR, who occasionally represents the United Fruit Co. in New Orleans. They asked for one million dollars from the United Fruit Co., in support of BARRIOS' intended revolutionary movement in Guatemala, but they were unsuccessful in obtaining any commitment. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Front door:-----321 St. Charles http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Fruit_Company

It used to be, back in the good old days, that original research was rewarded BY CONTRIBUTIONS....OF OTHERS.... WHY CUT ME OFF TOM? ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT ME HERE?: Actually! It used to be, back in the good old days, that anyone who wrote completely erroneous articles which were filled with hearsay; half-truths; innuendo; pure speculation; out-and-out lies; and complete BS lack of research, were laughed at by all within the academic community. WHY ARE YOU ATTACKING MY RESEARCH WITHOUT MENTIONING WHAT IS ERRONEOUS, HEARSAY, HALF-TRUTHS, INNUENDO, PURE SPECULATION, AND WHAT OUT-AND-OUT LIES - I HAVE NO REASON TO LIE TO ANYONE. AND HAVE NOT DONE SO. AND IF YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT ME I'D LIKE TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT I'VE LIED ABOUT? http://jfkcountercoup.blogspot.com/ William E. Kelly, Jr. was born in 1951, the son of a Camden, New Jersey, USA homicide detective. He majored in history at the University of Dayton, Ohio, School of Education, where he did his thesis on the Bay of Pigs. After graduation he taught history and became a freelance journalist and author of regional history books "300 Years at the Point" and "Birth of the Birdie +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Which certainly tells one much about the US Educational System as compared with why the UK actually requires one to learn "History" prior to being classified as an "Histoy Major". Tom: "who wrote completely erroneous articles which were filled with hearsay; half-truths; innuendo; pure speculation; out and out lies; and complete BS lack of research," Are you talking about me, Tom? Even though you haven't read either one of my books you are critical of them? Why are you attacking me? Have you been bitten by JB's rabbies? And you cut off my sentence - research rewarded by contributions from others, like photos from JR and deep background by Linda Minor? Why wasn't that relevant? Where are they? You apparently know all the answers but makes it game, and JB who "solved the assassination five years before it happened," are really confident that you have it all figured out. Well I don't know the answers, and I take exception to your mis-characterization of my work. And you are the one who has responded to my articles posted on the training camps and Houma bunker? Why bother, if my work is irrelevant? You certainly haven't straightened anything out by refering to Fonzi's report on the MDC. You don't have to respond to my posts, but don't call me a xxxx and everything else under the sun to insult me without reason. Thanks Bill Kelly bkjfk3@yahoo.com The munitions and arms taken in the raid were originally said to be destined for the Bay of Pigs, or to be used in the OAS revolt of the French Generals against DeGaul. ==================== Who "said" that? LeRoy? BoBo? Jethro? There exists absolutely ZERO evidence that the seismographic mapping charges which were stolen from the Schulmber Well Service SHED at the old Blimp Field in Houma, have any relationship to the Bay of Pigs and/or any supposed revolt of the French. Sounds good in writing, but nevertheless remains as pure hearsay BS. When they weren’t used in either event, they were taken to the New Orleans offices of Guy Bannister at 544 Camp Street, In that regard, one witness stated that he later observed some of the charges in Bannister's office. which was used by Lee Harvey Oswald in his Fair Play for Cuba Committee activities in the summer of 1963, and to the Lake Pontchartrain anti-Castro Cuban training camp owned by William McClaney, which was raided by the FBI in July, 1963. There exists absolutely ZERO factual evidence that LHO ever set foot in the office of Guy Bannister at 544 Camp Street. There exists absolutely ZERO factual evidence that LHO had any relationship with the LaCombe/Lake Ponchatrain training in which the FBI raided the training facilities and camp in July of 1963. There exists absolutely ZERO factual evidence that any of the Schlumber Well Service seismographic mapping charges which were stolen from the Houma Blimp Field in 1961, ended up at the LaCombe/Lake Ponchatrain training which was conducted and raided in July of 1963. In fact, to the contrary, virtually all of the munitions (explosives) which were confiscated by the FBI during the July 31, 1963 raid on the LaCombe/Lake Ponchatrain training facilities, was traced directly back to the manufacture who had sold the explosives to Richard Lauchli. Lauchli, was a known "arms/munitions" dealer who appears to have totally supplied the LaCombe/Lake Ponchatrain 1963 operation. There has been the question as to whether some of these arms and ammunition were part of the Venezuelan Arms Cache, a Northwoods operation, or used in the attack on Gen. Walker, the assassination of the President or the murder of Dallas policeman J.D. Tippit, since the source of the ammunition in those incidents were never determined. So! Who asked those questions! LeRoy? BoBo? Jethro? Last time that I checked, General Walker was shot at. No one of my knowledge chunked a small explosive charge at him, and since that was the only thing taken in the "GREAT" Houma arms raid, I am certain that inquiring minds would be highly interested in exactly who keeps asking these stupid questions. Well, one thing they used the truck for was to move the munitions from the Houma bunker to Ferrie’s apartment, Bannister’s offices in New Orleans and the Lake Pontchartrain training camp. At best, this would be 66 2/3 correct! Which still happens to be a failing grade in most academic institutions. Who told you that the truck carried some of these seismographic mapping charges to Bannister's office? And, even more importantly, who told you that charges were than taken to the LaCombe/Lake Ponchatrain training area some almost three years later?? Surely not LeRoy; BoBo; and Jethro again! Did they tell you exactly what filing cabinet Garrison kept this stuff laying around in for some 2 1/2 years??? The same CIA memo that denies the Houma bunker was used to store CIA supplies also acknowledges that the CIA did operate an anti-Castro Cuban training camp in Louisiana that included a munitions supply cache, which was connected to CIA spymaster David Atlee Phillips. Yeah, it did! And, had you bothered to read the memo and then look at a map (minimal research) then you would have found that the CIA training facility was located just outside New Orleans (about 8 miles away) at the old Naval Ammunition Storage Facility, while the Houma Blimp Fieldj (where the seismographich mapping charges were stolen from a SHED) was located some 45 miles south of New Orleans. There was some confusion as to whether it was a burglary at all, as Garrison contended in persuading the grand jury to subpoena and indict Sergio Aracha Smith and Gordon Novel, both of whom fled the state rather than testify. Some of the participants claimed they were given a key to the bunker by a CIA contact, while others testified that burglary tools were used to break into the bunker, which was suppose to be used for securing munitions and blasting caps used in drilling oil wells. Well, lets see if we can figure this out! They drove down to the old Houma Blimp Field which was leased out to a variety of private enterprises, they broke into a SHED which contained materials belonging the the Schlumber Well Service Company, they took the personal property of Schlujberger Well Service Company, IE: several crates of seismographic mapping charges, to include blasting caps and fuse, and then they left with these materials. LeRoy; BoBo; and Jethro may be dumb, but betcha that they can tell you what that constitutes. PS which was suppose to be used for securing munitions and blasting caps used in drilling oil wells. Even as dumb as they may be, LeRoy; BoBo; and Jethro are aware that one does not drill for oil utilizing explosive chages. Unless of course one is dumber than LeRoy; BoBo; and Jethro, combined. The cases the arms were stored in were said to be labeled either “SCHULMBERGER” or “INTERARMCO,” the company owned by Sam Cummings, the Philadelphia arms merchant who supplied the guns for many a revolution in South and Central America. Again, exactly "WHO" was it that said that? LeRoy; BoBo; and Jethro have denied it. Personally, I was totally unaware of any activities in which INTERARMCO became involved in providing the specialized (small) explosive charges which are utilized in seismographic mapping. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Enough of this! Bill, this is one of the singularly most ill-researched documents to ever hit print in regards to what is in fact mostly simple, but is also relatively easiy to research the facts of. To call this the "Educational Forum" and allow such garbage to go unchallanged would be an insult to those who are in fact attempting to ascertain factual information relative to the assassination of jFK; LHO; and those activities in New Orleans during the period of early 1961 through the latter part of 1963. It is a direct result of such writings that few of any worth will pay any attention to anything stated on the assassination of JFK, and it is the continuation of such pure BS that will keep anyone from paying sufficient heed to anything factual which could/may lead to the US Government finally disclosing all in this matter.

Stephen, As a Ferrie specialist, can you answer the question in the Winnipeg Airport Incident thread re: Ferrie wearing thick glasses? Did David Ferrie wear glasses? Thanks, Bill Kelly And as for the "Training Camp" on the McLaney property, there was none. According to Byron Chiverton, the next door neighbor and in law of McLaney, http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...mp;relPageId=34 Which clearly shows that the property is only the 300 feet, the size of a football field, and only had a trailer on it, with the neighbors there at vacation homes, totally unsuitable for a "training camp," or even storage of anything. Nor were any gun fireing or exploding going on, as none of the neighbors heard any, and nobody was there for more than a week or Chiverton would have met them as he was the caretaker, and of all the dozens of names given up in the newspaper story on the raid, Turner, Flamonde, Pervis or any of the experts on this matter - he never saw any of them. The only name Chiverton gives up is Jose Juarez, who is mentioned in Harold Weisberg's book Oswald in New Orleans (P. 69) but I don't have it. Anyone who does, it would be nice to know what this refers to. JOSE JUAREZ. Getting a trace on Jose Juarez would be interesting. The property was owned by Bill and Mike McLaney's mom, Mrs. Julia McLaney. If it is true that Mrs. Julia McLaney also owned the apartment building in New Orleans where Oswald lived, could also make things interesting. What ever happened at McLaney's Lake house, it wasn't training anybody for anything. And I think of all the names associated with the raid, Jose Juarez and Mrs. Julia McLaney are the two I want to look at more closely. More erroneous hearsay, half-truths, innuendo, pure speculation, out-and-out lies, and complete lack of BS research to come, to keep you laughing.... BK The McLaney property was where the explosives and other munitions (which had primarily been provided by Lauchli) were retrieved during the raid. The persons who were purportedly being trained were removed from another area which supposedly covered portions of the old De La Barre family plantation. Since they were two completely seperate areas and the cubans were not found to be in possession of any of the explosives, they ultimately could not be charged with any violations of law. ================================================================================ = http://www.lahistory.org/site33.php PASCALIS DE LA BARRE, François, soldier, planter, colonial official. Son of Jacques Pascalis and Renée Le Royer. Came to Louisiana at the age of 28 in 1749 or early 1750. Married Marie Charlotte Volant (d. 1802) between 1750 and 1754. Children: François Pierre Volant, Charlotte, and Marie. Commissioned an officer in the Second Ordinary Company of the Heudicourt Regiment (1743) and left in 1746 to pursue career in the military where he had become a captain. Eventually owned several plantations with first one bought in 1750. Served as criminal sheriff, chief of police, city treasurer, member of the court of appeals, liquor inspector and city councilman. Inspected city after second great fire (1794) and made a list of every destitute family. Died, New Orleans, December 24, 1803. A.E.D. Source: William D. De La Barre Reeves, Life of a French Creole Family in Louisiana (1980). http://www.himandus.net/hofh/chauvin/chauv...harts_rweb.html ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The "De La Barre" family of New Orleans is/was, for all practical purposes, considered as Royalty.

K.I.S.S. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Name: FOR AMERICA Type Entity: Non-Profit Corporation or Co-op (Non-Louisiana) Status: Not Active (Action by Secretary of State) 2008 Annual Report/Reinstatement form is required in order to reinstate Print Annual Report/Reinstatement Form For Filing Mailing Address: 208 S LASALLE ST, CHICAGO, IL 60604 Domicile Address: 208 S LASALLE ST, CHICAGO, IL 60604 Principal Office: 208 S LASALLE ST, CHICAGO, IL 60604 Principal Bus. Est. in Louisiana: Qualified: 07/14/1954 Registered Agent (Appointed 7/14/1954): CHARLES E. DUNBAR, JR., 321 ST. CHARLES, NEW ORLEANS, LA 70130 Registered Agent (Appointed 7/14/1954): SUMTER D. MARKS, JR., 321 ST CHARLES, NEW ORLEANS, LA 70130 Registered Agent (Appointed 7/14/1954): LOUIS B. CLAVERIE, 321 ST. CHARLES, NEW ORLEANS, LA 70130 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ http://www.jfk-online.com/jpsgatguat.html After leaving the FBI offices, BARRIOS and GATLIN met with a Mr. DUNBAR, who occasionally represents the United Fruit Co. in New Orleans. They asked for one million dollars from the United Fruit Co., in support of BARRIOS' intended revolutionary movement in Guatemala, but they were unsuccessful in obtaining any commitment. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Front door:-----321 St. Charles http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Fruit_Company

First off, one must understand the considerable difference between those who have actually "lived" in history, as opposed to those who merely attempt to learn about it through reading what is often vague and frequently erroneous writings of others. Sort of like the difference between one who receives his Degree in a field, yet has absolutely no "hands-on" experience, v. someone who has say 20+ years of actual experience in the field yet has never sat in a classroom on the subject matter. So, be it a "History" of the war in Vietnam, or a "History" of the New Orleans area, neither side of the equation will be correct as neither side is completely exposed to all aspects of where; why; and what actually transpired. With that stated, unless one is considerably knowledgeale of New Orleans and how things operate and have operated there for a long, long, long, time, then one is handicapped in any attempt to write about and/or explain much relative to what truly goes on in that area. And, even with that knowledge, unless one has actually "been there", then they still can not fathom the completely different and frequently unique character as to how New Orleans has developed. Sort of like living in Canada and attempting to write a truly factual and knowledgeable articlle on the "White Knights of the KKK". With that stated: http://www.aarclibrary.org/publib/jfk/hsca...10_AC_7_MDC.pdf Hopefully, one will take the time to fully read this! Then: http://www.ajweberman.com/nodules2/nodulec14.htm +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Through his business connections and his anti-Castro activities, Davis became acquainted with members of the John Birch Society at New Orleans. With the assistance of John Birch Society members, Davis set up a training site for exiled Cubans on the DeLeBarre estate, LaCombe, Louisiana, which is near New Orleans...Davis emphatically denied any association between the cache of bombs and his training camp. It is Davis' understanding, a gambler who formerly had ties in Cuba and Las Vegas, was responsible for the bomb cache.++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Now! Anyone who has "been there", would immediately associate the "name recognition" and importance of this information. And, since I long ago "pointed" to this road, might I take the time (for those who missed it, to again point out the importance of this turn in the road which one should take the time to follow). ================================================================================ Charter/Organization ID: 03300690N Name: THE POLITICAL LEAGUE Type Entity: Non-Profit Corporation Status: Not Active (Action by Secretary of State) 2009 Annual Report/Reinstatement form is required in order to reinstate Print Annual Report/Reinstatement Form For Filing Mailing Address: 710 PERE MARQUETTE, NEW ORLEANS, LA 70112 Domicile Address: 710 PERE MARQUETTE, NEW ORLEANS, LA 70112 File Date: 02/04/1963 Registered Agent (Appointed 2/04/1963): HUBERT J. BADEAUX, 8241 HICKORY ST, NEW ORLEANS, LA 70118 Registered Agent (Appointed 2/04/1963): F. D. V. DE LA BARRE, 4122 PITT ST, NEW ORLEANS, LA 70115 =============================================================================== Charter/Organization ID: 26303000D Name: GUATEMALA LUMBER & MINERAL CORPORATION Type Entity: Business Corporation Status: Not Active (Action by Secretary of State) Mailing Address: 710 PERE MARQUETTE, NEW ORLEANS, LA 70112 Domicile Address: 710 PERE MARQUETTE, NEW ORLEANS, LA 70112 =============================================================================== (to be continued)

On a completely different subject matter! Did you know Gordon Novel's (second I believe) wife? She worked at the Playboy Club and even later on took up an affair with the guy who initially owned the Club???

Stehen; Thanks for the reply, and "hold that thought"! I will get back to you as to why I have become convinced that the Houma (Blimp Base) theft of the Schlumberger Well Service Company's seismographic charges occurred after the closure of the true CIA training facility which was located at the Belle Chasse Naval Ammunition Depot. Nevertheless, even with what little I know, the actual date is as you state, still one of speculation which has yet to be fully confirmed. Hope the next edition on the LaCombe/Ponchatrain facility(s) of 1963 sheds some additional knowledge for you. Tom

It used to be, back in the good old days, that original research was rewarded Actually! It used to be, back in the good old days, that anyone who wrote completely erroneous articles which were filled with hearsay; half-truths; innuendo; pure speculation; out-and-out lies; and complete BS lack of research, were laughed at by all within the academic community. http://jfkcountercoup.blogspot.com/ William E. Kelly, Jr. was born in 1951, the son of a Camden, New Jersey, USA homicide detective. He majored in history at the University of Dayton, Ohio, School of Education, where he did his thesis on the Bay of Pigs. After graduation he taught history and became a freelance journalist and author of regional history books "300 Years at the Point" and "Birth of the Birdie +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Which certainly tells one much about the US Educational System as compared with why the UK actually requires one to learn "History" prior to being classified as an "Histoy Major".

All about (mostly anyhow) the LaCombe/Lake Ponchatrain training facility and it's purportedly independently wealthy backers. http://www.aarclibrary.org/publib/jfk/hsca...10_AC_7_MDC.pdf Just for the record: http://www.answers.com/topic/batista-y-zald-var-fulgencio Fulgencio Batista Maria-Teresa, the present Grand Duchess of Luxembourg (born 1956, is a grand-niece of Feulgencio Batista (her maiden name was Maria-Teresa Mestre y Batista-Falla).

In the event that everyone is not, by now, thoroughly confused in regards to the subject matter, they sure as hell should be. So! First off, one should dismiss as rumor; hearsay; half-truth; innuendo; and plain ole everyday lies, much of the purported claims on the subject matter and how LHO was supposedly; rumored to be; thought to have known; etc; etc; etc. FACTS: BELLE CHASSE: 1. The CIA set up a "training camp" just south of New Orleans at the old abandoned portion of the Belle Chasse Naval Station ammunition depot. 2. This training camp was in conjunction with the Bay of Pigs invasion and trained selected cubans. 3. The base was never "compromised", all training was accomplished and the training area and all equipment was removed and the area completely sterilized prior to the Bay of Pigs invasion. 4. Although the training area was never fully compromised, due to some Cuban trainees having been recognized as they were ofloaded at the Moisant (now New Orleans International) Airport, word of the training leaked out. 5. The Training Facility was completely closed and "clean' by 21 April, 1961. Houma Blimp Field/aka Schlumberger Well Service Company burglary: 1. Shortly after closure and sterilization of the true Belle Chasse training camp, the David Ferrie/Gordon Novel/etc; group were led by someone into making a burglary of the Schlumberger Well Service Company's storage shed on the old US Naval Blimp Base located some 45 miles south of New Orleans at Houma, LA. 2. This "great" purportedly munitions/arms raid actually consisted of the theft of several boxes of "downhole" charges which are /were then utilized in the oilfield seismographic maping/search for oil; gas; and salt domes. 3. For all practical purposes, due to the circumstantial situation, the "Great Houma Munitions Raid" appears to be nothing more than a "Smoke" screen/aka diversionary tactic which some gullible persons were lead into, and which actions made it appear to members of the New Orleans cuban (anti-castro) grouping that the Houma Blimp factory was where the actual CIA training base/camp had been located. Thus diverting virtually all attention away from the true training facility which had been located merely some 8-miles south of New Orleans. The LaCombe/Covington/aka Lake Ponchatrain training facility and raid: 1. The concept of this training facility appears to have begun well prior to it's actual inception, as evidenced by the testimony of one Gerry P. Hemming who was initially duped into flying around this area in a private plane which purportedly belonged to one of the Reily Coffee Company brothers. This appears as little more than an attempt to suck Gerry Hemming and/or his associates into becoming the fall guy for what ultimately became this training facility which was the subject of the 1963 FBI raid. 2. Although Hemming seems to have ultimately had nothing to do with the actual establishment of the training facility, he did nevertheless apparantly introduce to persons the name of an arms/munitions supplier who worked out of Collinsville, IL, which is in fact considered as a suburb of St. Louis, MO (think Organized Crime). This individual to whom Hemming introduced, was none other than Richard A. Lauchli of Collinsville, IL http://americanfraud.com/possecomitatus.aspx RICHARD LAUCHLI, TOM MOSELEY AND THE MINUTEMEN Richard Albert Lauchli of Collinsville, Illinois, was an arms dealer who had supplied Fidel in the late 1950's. Richard Lauchli was co-founder of the Minutemen in the St. Louis, Missouri, area until September 1962, when he parted company with Minutemen co-founder Robert DePugh. CIA Office of Security traces on him were heavily deleted. [Allen v. DOD CIA] The Minutemen was organized in June 1960 by right-wing paramilitarists whose goal was to become a partisan guerrilla force after the Soviets took over the United States. Minutemen literature furnished instructions in the use of explosives and also gave details for the making of explosive compounds from such readily accessible ingredients as a common fertilizer, ammonium nitrate. ================================================================================ The actual raid on the Lacombe/Ponchatraine training facility on July 31, 1963, resulted in the capture of explosive which Richard Lauchli had purchased and provided to the McLaney group who were apparantly footing much of the costs related to this training camp. In addition to the explosives, a group of cuban's who were training at a removed areas were also arrested by the FBI. These cubans had been brought in under the guise of the "Guatemala Lumber Company" umbrella. Several of these cubans had decided that they did not care for the training and had taken flight to New Orleans. http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/bringuier.htm Mr. BRINGUIER. And you see, in August 24, 1962, my organization, the Cuban Student Directorate, carry on a shelling of Havana, and a few days later when person from the FBI contacted me here in New Orleans--his name was Warren C. de Brueys. Mr. de Brueys was talking to me in the Thompson Cafeteria. At that moment I was the only one from the Cuban Student Directorate here in the city, and he was asking to me about my activities here in the city, and when I told him that I was the only one, he didn't believe that, and he advised me and I quote, "We could infiltrate your organization and find out what you are doing here." My answer to him was, "Well, you will have to infiltrate myself, because I am the only one." And I want to put this out, because after that some part of the press or some persons now are trying to use to tell that maybe Oswald was a man from the FBI or the CIA. I will go into that later on. After that, after my conversation with de Brueys, I always was waiting that maybe someone will come to infiltrate my organization from the FBI, because I already was told by one of the FBI agent that they will try to infiltrate my organization. Next thing is this: On August 2, 1963, I receive in my store--I have over there the office of the delegation too, the visit of two Cubans, who told me that they had already desert from one Anti-Castro training camp that was across Lake Pontchartrain here in New Orleans. Until that moment I did not know nothing about that Anti-Castro training camp here in the city, and they told me that that Anti-Castro training camp was a branch of the Christian Democratic Movement--that is another Anti-Castro organization-- and they told me that they had the fear inside the training camp that there was a Castro agent inside that training camp. A few days before, too, the police found here in New Orleans about 1 mile from that training camp a big lot of ammunition and weapons and all those things, and when Oswald came to me on August 5 I had inside myself the feeling, well, maybe this is from the FBI, ================================================================================ = Due to LHO's actions with Carlos, which occurred on August 5, it makes it appear as if LHO's actions were directly intended to "POINT" the finger at Carlos Bringuier and his group as having some responsiblity for the LaCombe/Lake Ponchatrain training camp and munitions which the FBI had raided on July 31, 1963.

Glad to see that you finally found the one (and only) true Agency training camp. Now, in event that you will look at a map, you will find a considerable difference between the Belle Chase Naval Facility and the old Houma Blimp field. The question being, exactly what do these two facilities have in common????? Think "SMOKE"! P.S. Still has nothing to do with LHO and the later facilities which were raided in 1963, and were more in the nature of "private enterprise".

John; Then one had best consider the actual facts and truths of the "Great Houma" arms cache. 1. The "munitions" were stored on the old Houma "Blimp" field which had been leased to various commercial civilian operations since the early 1950's, primarily when Texaco wanted an airfield. 2. The "munitions" were stored in a wooden shed (not a bunker) as there have never been any ammunition/arms/munitions bunkers on the old Blimp Field. 3. The "munitions" consisted of a load of "downhole" seismographic explosive charge cartridges which Schlumberger (as well as anyone else in the seismograph industry) utilized in the oil/gas industry for mapping. http://www.dynonobel.com/dynonobelcom/en/g...%28se%29/#diped Lastly, so far as is known, this theft of explosives (only) has little bearing on the much later "Lake Ponchatrain" training camp and the true/factual/actual siezure of weapons and munitions which were for training of an anti-Castro force. In event that one will seperate the two completely different events, some of the confusion just may clear up. Provided of course that one can "read through" all of the other half-truths; innunendo; allegations; and BS.

Hey Ms. Beckett: See that you are still around attempting to figure out exactly who and what to believe! Perhaps of some assistance: http://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/galle...bum=4&pos=0 An excellent reference which places much into "perspective" as regards other topics of discussion. As well as: http://www.assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z315.jpg One never knows when even a "litterbug" may shed some additional light on a subject. http://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/galle...&fullsize=1 Reckon how them Zapruder film phonier-uppers knew to make certain to insert some thrash into their work as well??????

Hopefully, sufficient light has been shined on the subject matter that few hereafter will either become, or stay lost in the maze.

The SS report is merely a few pages from that which deals with Jack Martin. Anyone who has bottered to attempt to follow up on the "Jack Martin" lead should have also found that additional knowledge relative to the SS assassination re-enactment and filming of December 1963. "Unless there is more to the story than what I ascertained, in the sense that there is a separate person named Jack W. Martin, I personally believe the middle initial was a mistake " Anyone who has bottered to attempt to follow up on the "Jack Martin" lead should have also found that additional knowledge relative to the SS assassination re-enactment and filming of December 1963. And, they truly should have found James (Jack) W. Martin. Not that difficult at all to locate one of that name. Perhaps it is merely coincidence that he lived in Arlington and was on the "Textbook Committee" which approved all books utilized within the Dallas area schools. (And which were received from the TSDB). Mr. Dolva perhaps will explain the significance of how the "Textbook Committee's" were "stacked". Since the Mississippi Soveriegnty Commission Files contain much on this. And for Mr. Kelly: You no doubt thought that I made that one up also. Hey Tom, Why would I think you made anything up? I still can't find a connection between Jack Martin and the SS reenactment. As for your James W. Martin, of Arlington, Tx and the Texas Textbook Committee, it appears that is a development out of the Gilmer-Alkin Act of 1949 http://ritter.tea.state.tx.us/comm/tps_han...ed_reforms.html When LBJ became president, the former teacher threw a lot of money in public education. There's also this connection: In Texas, Gov. John Connally appointed a Committee on Public School Education in 1965 to prepare a viable long-range plan for national educational leadership. The committee’s report, “To Make Texas A National Leader in Public Education: The Challenge and the Change,” made recommendations to the governor and the legislature in 1969 that would serve as a practical blueprint for Texas to “attain national leadership in educational achievement.” Committee Chair Leon Jaworski said in the report, “We propose the operating units of the system be strengthened, given the resources and authority to make and implement broad educational policy decisions, and be held accountable for the results of those decisions through a continuing State program of evaluation. We believe this is the only practical way to stay abreast of the educational revolution now in progress.” They even named the Arlington, Texas High School after Mr. James White Martin, controversial because up until that time they named Texas schools after heroes, and apparently Mr. Martin wasn't one. I don't see any associations with Jack Martin, or the TSBD, although Mr. James W. Martin must have approved the books that were used at the schools and fetched and shipped by Oswald. Looks like another Wild Goose Chase. BK Jack W. Martin http://ssdi.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/ssdi.cgi ========================================== John W. Martin (common nickname "Jack") http://ssdi.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/ssdi.cgi ========================================== James W. Martin (commonly nicknamed "Jim" and/or "Jimmy", sometimes nicknamed "Jack") http://ssdi.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/ssdi.cgi ========================================== As you were informed in the sent message, James W. Martin, of whom Martin High School in Arlington, TX is named after, is the only one to whom I have found and potential direct connection. And that simply lies within the "coincidental" aspects of name; place of residence; and association to issued textbooks. That you have found nothing (anywhere of my knowledge) is not that surprising, especially when one considers that you have obviousy been looking for some "Great" sniper to accomplish the relatively simple shooting feat which occurred in Dallas on 11/22/63. Yeah! It is all realtively simple to find when someone else takes the time to research, explain, and then point it out.

The SS report is merely a few pages from that which deals with Jack Martin. Anyone who has bottered to attempt to follow up on the "Jack Martin" lead should have also found that additional knowledge relative to the SS assassination re-enactment and filming of December 1963. "Unless there is more to the story than what I ascertained, in the sense that there is a separate person named Jack W. Martin, I personally believe the middle initial was a mistake " Anyone who has bottered to attempt to follow up on the "Jack Martin" lead should have also found that additional knowledge relative to the SS assassination re-enactment and filming of December 1963. And, they truly should have found James (Jack) W. Martin. Not that difficult at all to locate one of that name. Perhaps it is merely coincidence that he lived in Arlington and was on the "Textbook Committee" which approved all books utilized within the Dallas area schools. (And which were received from the TSDB). Mr. Dolva perhaps will explain the significance of how the "Textbook Committee's" were "stacked". Since the Mississippi Soveriegnty Commission Files contain much on this. And for Mr. Kelly: You no doubt thought that I made that one up also.

http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...p;relPageId=506 http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...p;relPageId=507 http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk...Vol17_0449a.htm Mr. ALTGENS - Because I didn't see who fired it. After the Presidential car moved a little past me, I took another picture--now, just let me back up here--I was prepared to make a picture at the very instant the President was shot. I had refocused to 15 feet because I wanted a good closeup of the President and Mrs. Kennedy, and that's why I know that it would be right at 15 feet, because I had prefocused in that area, and I had my camera almost to my eye when it happened and that's as far as I got with my camera. http://www.assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z350.jpg

The SS report is merely a few pages from that which deals with Jack Martin. Anyone who has bottered to attempt to follow up on the "Jack Martin" lead should have also found that additional knowledge relative to the SS assassination re-enactment and filming of December 1963.

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/shaneyf2.htm Mr. SPECTER. Was that position ascertained where the chalk spot on the back of President Kennedy's coat was first visible from the sixth floor window through the telescopic sight? Mr. SHANEYFELT. That is correct. Mr. DULLES. This is after passing the tree. Mr. SHANEYFELT. Yes. Mr. SPECTER. After passing out from under the oak tree. Mr. SHANEYFELT. Yes. Mr. SPECTER. What frame did that turn out to be? Mr. SHANEYFELT. That was frame 207. Mr. SPECTER. Do you have an exhibit depicting the same photographic sequence on frame 207? Mr. SHANEYFELT. Yes; I do. Mr. SPECTER. What Commission Exhibit number has been affixed to that frame? Mr. SHANEYFELT. Commission Exhibit No. 892. http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk...Vol18_0051b.htm Mr. SPECTER. Now, was frame 249 selected as a situs for calculations on the possible construction that President Kennedy was struck in the back at the first point unadjusted at which he emerged from the tree, to wit: frame 207, ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Gotta love anyone who can pull a sack over someone's head, while they are actually watching, without their even knowing that they have been "sacked".

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