Peter Fokes

A fellow named Arvel Jr. Stricklin claims he was at the Cellar that night. "Many people have heard the Cellar name in connection with the Kennedy Secret Service agents. I was there that night, and also a few nights previous when an NBC camera crew did some filming there. If you've seen a 6-part documentary titled "The Men Who Killed Kennedy", You've seen me. I am the guitar player you saw for 3 or 4 seconds as the camera panned past the Bandstand. (along with, on bass, CB Oliver; on drums, Felix Vasquez)" See: http://www.arvel.com/cellarstory.html His email is published on the site. No idea if it is a working email. Regards, Peter Fokes, Toronto

The previous post is of immense value in my opinion, but I would like to mention something I just discovered. There is at mary ferrell's website a HSCA Files section, which mentions Thomas R. Peasner. What is unusual about the document I was viewing, is that not only is a page missing, "withdrawn from the JFK Collection," it states, but the only page viewable is dated from June 1953, the document gives the appearance that Thomas R. Pearson was of interest because, if I am getting this straight, he was a POW held by the Chinese Communists. ....What makes this so strange is I was googling the name, when I saw that Peter Fokes has an alt.assassination.jfk post on him with the title "Carousel Club Pianist Disappeared After Buying Rifle in 11/63," citing documents on maryferrell.org and Warren Commission CD 736. See Carousel Club Pianist Disappeared After Buying Rifle in 11/63? http://groups.google.com/group/alt.assassi...7aaacf6e16?lnk= Seems mildly interesting, to say the least... http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...o?docSetId=1269 This is the link to the segment on Peasner in WCD 736 http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...bsPageId=353807 PEASNER, THOMAS R. Sources: CD 736, p. 44 Mary's Comments: Former pianist at Carousel who had just left employment. On 11/9/63, he bought .22 caliber automatic Browning rifle SW R706898 at Sears, Arlington, TX, for $75,99 with insufficient funds check on Republic National Bank. DOB: 10/19/29. 6'1" 140 lbs. Brown hair, blue eyes. Texas Drivers' License 0155824. Apparently this is Thomas R. Peasner, III. A Thomas R. Peasner, Jr., died Fri, Oct 2, 1970. Survived by son Thomas R. Peasner, III. There are 38 hits under Peasner at NARA. http://www.nara.gov/cgi-bin/starfinder/25790/jfksnew.txt Personally, I feel a little bit strange that I have never heard of this. There were several newspaper articles concerning him circa 1953, evidently he participated in radio broadcasts to stateside, wishing his family a Merry Christmas. He graduated from Crozier Tech., before the war in Korea. FYI The grandson of Thomas Peasner Jr. submitted a few posts to alt.assassination.jfk. He wrote: "The son, Thomas Rodman Peasner, III was my father. He was not affiliated with Jack Ruby in any way, aside from knowing that his father Thomas Rodman Peasner, Jr. played piano in Jack Ruby's bar and sometimes played poker with him (Jr, not the third). My father has said he was young when this occured and that he didn't know anything more." In another post, he wrote: "Reading that he bought a gun for Jack Ruby and disappeared is news to me. I can see it happening, though. I can't see him being a gunman. My father said his father played poker with Ruby on the weekends sometimes, but it could have been a cover. I think he saw them in the house once, talking." Regards, Peter Fokes, Toronto

Still up and running as far as I can tell. See http://www.youtube.com/user/DavidVonPein Regards, Peter Fokes, Toronto

Dickey Worrell's time and distance estimates were all out of whack. Check his testimony to see how long (or short) it was between various events, and it's obvious that he could not keep track of time ... or worse.The same is true of his distance estimates; see where he estimated that the limousine passed as much as 50, 75 or 100 yards in front of him ... as he stood near the southeast corner of the TSBD directly under the "sniper's nest" window. A football field's-length away? We all know better than that. The TSBD building measures only 100' x 100' on the inside, thus if Worrell was "a hundred yards from the Depository," he was more than two blocks away. Pacific Street is directly behind the Dal-Tex Building, and would have run into the TSBD's loading dock if it continued west past Houston Street. "The corner of Pacific Street" and "a hundred yards from the Depository" has a twain that shall never meet. More telling is the fact that a photograph was taken of that area of the TSBD moments before JFK was shot, and there is, unfortunately, nobody even remotely matching Worrell's description standing in that location. In an article entitled "Imaginary Witness," published in Deep Politics Quarterly (January 2007?), I dissected Worrell's purported movements vis a vis the President's arrival, the motorcade's route, the bus schedule and the shooting. In it, I determined it was possible for Worrell to have been in DP at 12:30, but only if the bus he got on at Love was running 10 minutes or more late, and he knew exactly where he wanted to go after getting off the bus (and that after having crossed through the crowds on Main Street to get there, i.e., bypassed the obvious parade route). Bottom line: Dickey most likely wasn't there. Actually, this is the story that Richard Carr told to Penn Jones, after having told something different to the FBI in 1964, and before having sworn to something different yet again during the Shaw trial in 1969. Hi Duke, If I recall, didn't Worrell claim he saw "fire" coming from the muzzle of the rifle? How likely is that! Regards, Peter Fokes, Toronto

Hi Antti, Yes. It was a simple matter to find this name on the White Pages. I asked DVP last night on alt.assassination.jfk (before your post) whether he had ever been to Mooresville. :-) But DVP hasn't been hiding that location. It is included in many of his Amazon reviews. Just do a search. Regards, Peter Fokes, Toronto

Not much info on David Von Pein, but he seems to have launched a You tube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/DavidVonPein Regards, Peter Fokes, Toronto

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...8082603493.html Peter Fokes, Toronto

CIA agent was hero at Bay of Pigs A decorated war hero, Gray Lynch was embraced by veterans of the Bay of Pigs invasion as one of their own. http://www.miamiherald.com/news/americas/c...ory/646176.html See also: http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKlynchG.htm Peter Fokes, Toronto

Thank you, Shane. You certainly have provoked a great deal of discussion with your book and DVD. I would imagine you have responded to comments by Mel Ayton and Jefferson Morley in some forum or other. However, I am woefully busy and have not kept up with the discussions. Besides the "Helms look-a-like", I did discover -- as Ayton has noted -- an image of the polka dot lady in the pantry area, as well as several images of a "Sirhan Sirhan look-a-like" standing next to a woman in a black dress with white spots. (See thread on this forum from earlier date.) Looking forward to reading your book and watching the DVD. Regards, Peter Fokes, Toronto

Robert Kennedy Jr. interviewed Bugliosi recently. The topic: Bugliosi's Bush book. Here is the mp3: http://www.radiodujour.com/people/bugliosi...entbugliosi.mp3 IF this link has been posted on your forum previously, excuse me. Peter Fokes, Toronto

Thanks, Frank. I wondered who that fellow was. Now I know. Regards. Peter Fokes, Toronto

Maybe just given the date too many are trying to access the site, but I was unable to get the other photos to load. I'd appreciate if anyone spots one of significance to the events of the shooting to post them. Hi Peter, Try this link instead: http://www.knbc.com/slideshow/16512045/det...de=0&taf=la The man to Sirhan's right is George Plimpton. I assume the fellow on his left is Karl Uecker. Plimpton is often overlooked in descriptions of the event. Moldea wrote: "Uecker pinned Sirhan against the steam table, stopping his forward motion. Sirhan then pulled his revolver from his pants and opened fire, drawing the attention of nearly everyone in the pantry." He also wrote: "Simply speaking, I believe that the kinetic movement of the crowd trapped Kennedy against a steam table, which was bolted to the floor, as Sirhan, just inches away on the side of that same steam table, fired his weapon at him. Consistent with this, the last person to shake Kennedy's hand remembered seeing the senator lose his balance--while another eyewitness remembered seeing him "jerk a little bit, like backwards and then forwards." In this photo, we see Plimpton and Uecker pinning Sirhan against the steam table. The end of the gun barrel is visible. RFK is lying on the floor .... but where in relation to this photo? Here is a link to the pdf version of the May-June 2008 issue of the Los Angeles Firefighters newsletter. LAFD photographer Harold Burba is directly in the line of fire "while the gun is being taken from Sirhan's grip." http://www.knbc.com/download/2008/0605/16511867.pdf Peter Fokes, Toronto Excellent "pdf" shows the location of various people in the pantry. The pdf can be found at http://www.sirhansresearcher.com/Diagram%2...0Researcher.pdf Grid prepared by Rose Lynn Magnan. Kennedy would be lying on floor to the left of Uecker (to the west). The pdf is one of the pages at the website, http://www.sirhansresearcher.com/ . Peter Fokes, Toronto

Maybe just given the date too many are trying to access the site, but I was unable to get the other photos to load. I'd appreciate if anyone spots one of significance to the events of the shooting to post them. Hi Peter, Try this link instead: http://www.knbc.com/slideshow/16512045/det...de=0&taf=la The man to Sirhan's right is George Plimpton. I assume the fellow on his left is Karl Uecker. Plimpton is often overlooked in descriptions of the event. Moldea wrote: "Uecker pinned Sirhan against the steam table, stopping his forward motion. Sirhan then pulled his revolver from his pants and opened fire, drawing the attention of nearly everyone in the pantry." He also wrote: "Simply speaking, I believe that the kinetic movement of the crowd trapped Kennedy against a steam table, which was bolted to the floor, as Sirhan, just inches away on the side of that same steam table, fired his weapon at him. Consistent with this, the last person to shake Kennedy's hand remembered seeing the senator lose his balance--while another eyewitness remembered seeing him "jerk a little bit, like backwards and then forwards." In this photo, we see Plimpton and Uecker pinning Sirhan against the steam table. The end of the gun barrel is visible. RFK is lying on the floor .... but where in relation to this photo? Here is a link to the pdf version of the May-June 2008 issue of the Los Angeles Firefighters newsletter. LAFD photographer Harold Burba is directly in the line of fire "while the gun is being taken from Sirhan's grip." http://www.knbc.com/download/2008/0605/16511867.pdf Peter Fokes, Toronto

<quote on> Denise Ryan, Canwest News Service Published: Friday, February 15, 2008 VANCOUVER -- A Bush has come forward in defence of a possible Kennedy. Sharon Bush, the former wife of President George W. Bush's brother Neil Bush and a close friend of Jack Worthington, has come forward exclusively to the Vancouver Sun to speak on his behalf. "He is a fine man, highly ethical, a man of high integrity," Ms. Bush said about Worthington, rumoured to be John F. Kennedy's illegitimate son, in an interview Thursday. Ms. Bush said she decided to speak out after a British tabloid claimed Mr. Worthington once tried to flog a book about being an illegitimate Kennedy offspring and may not be who he claims. The tabloid is also claiming that Texas birth records show Mr. Worthington was born in January 1961 -- not, as Mr. Worthington says, on Nov. 22, two years to the day before John F. Kennedy's assassination. It's just the sort of journalistic "blood sport" Mr. Worthington wanted to avoid. Worthington stated simply Thursday that his birth date is a matter of public record. He also revealed that his sister was born on June 6, 1965, three years to the day before the assassination of Robert F. Kennedy. Mr. Worthington vehemently denied having ever written, or spoken publicly, about his possible connection to the Kennedy family. "It's outrageous. Vanity Fair approached me. They had to woo me for over six months to work with them on their story, and I only co-operated on their assurances that my anonymity would be protected." Mr. Worthington, who moved to the Vancouver area nine months ago, said he is reeling from the attention his story is getting in the world media. He plans to come forward soon in an interview with a major U.S. network to "clear the air." <quote off> Full story here: http://www.nationalpost.com/news/canada/story.html?id=311294 Regards Peter Fokes

Jack, I too suspect foul play in her death and the mysterious things that happened upon her death [house accross street, which she suspected was monitoring her, burned down - and other things]. Mae was way ahead of her time and got so many things right or nearly so. A very few of her notions are hard to give full credulity to, but no one is perfect. Her track record stands as testimony to her perception and tenacity. Her 'batting average' is IMO at the top of the rankings. I used to love to hear her tapes of the radio shows and were an awakening to me. Her 'Nazi Connections To the JFK Assassination' hit me like a lightning bolt when I read it. Alas, Mae is gone and it is sad there is no reserach center at this time. America and the World could use more noble private sleuths like Mae. The power structure feared her greatly...because she saw right through their lies, deceits and deceptions. Speaking of first generation critics ..... I haven't seen her name mentioned in the Kelin book thread. Peter Fokes

Well, the term "terrorist" does seem to apply to the last name on your list. See new information: http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20071115/index.htm <quote on> Washington DC, November 15, 2007 - In the first Congressional hearing held on the controversial case of violent Cuban exile Luis Posada Carriles, the House Foreign Affairs Subcommittee on International Organizations, Human Rights, and Oversight invited National Security Archive Senior Analyst Peter Kornbluh to testify on formerly top secret CIA and FBI intelligence reports linking Posada to the October 6, 1976 bombing of a Cuban civilian airliner. In his testimony, Kornbluh argued that the declassified records demonstrated that Posada had concrete foreknowledge of the bombing; was in possession of a surveillance report on Cuban targets that included the doomed plane; received coded messages immediately after the plane went into the ocean from the men who placed the bombs; and was quickly identified by multiple FBI and CIA sources in Venezuela as one of two masterminds of the attack that claimed the lives of all 73 passengers and crew. Kornbluh called Posada “one of the most prolific purveyors of political violence in recent history” and said that the evidence in the plane bombing was “more than sufficient” to have detained Posada for acts of international terrorism under the Patriot Act. Former Attorney General Alberto Gonzales refused to designate Posada as a terrorist and a judge dismissed immigration fraud charges against him last spring. Posada now lives freely in Miami, as does Orlando Bosch, who the CIA and FBI both identify as a co-conspirator in the plane bombing. “The United States now finds itself in the frankly inexplicable position of having not one but both men who our own intelligence agencies identified as responsible for bringing down a civilian airliner living free and unfettered lives in Florida,” Kornbluh told the Committee. <quote off> See documents provided at link above. Regards Peter Fokes

Ah yes. One would not expect the CIA to shower praises on Weiner's book. And what of this .... "The huge volume of material we have declassified ....." Lovely. Now that a court has ordered the CIA to review its records on George Joannides, perhaps the agency will be able to ADD to that huge volume with some slender files on this "mysterious fella" -- to borrow a phrase from LBJ! Regards and Happy Holidays Peter Fokes

Legacy of Ashes is an important book imo, but folks who prefer not to stray too far from the topic of the assassination of JFK may find his in-depth examination of CIA flaws of little interest. His brief dissection of the reign of Porter Goss is revealing. Goss served as a hatchet man for Bush and made sure the Bush ideology was entrenched at all levels of the agency. It is amusing to see the CIA blamed for destruction of tapes when one can be fairly certain such an act was condoned by the Administration itself. It is frightening indeed to read how the agency is now merely an outcrop of the military. As Weiner notes: The Pentagon has crushed the agency, and Ike's nightmare has become a reality. As for the assassination, Weiner seems to adopt the Helmsian view that, yes, there is doubt and such doubt might remain forever. In his view, the one slim prospect for discovery of a "smoking gun" - so to speak - might reside in secret files in Cuba or the Soviet Union. On alt.assassination.jfk, we have been discussing Weiner's brief recounting of the Gulf of Tonkin incident, and the failure of NSA to make clear to LBJ that a communique has been misinterpreted. It was too late anyway. The bombs had started falling. I'm afraid I do not agree with those researchers who simply want nothing to do with the book. Regards Peter Fokes

You are welcome. As you mention, Marina is not interested in the ring. That seems odd. You would think one of her children might want it as a keepsake. Robert Oswald's attitude seems at odds with Marina's apparent indifference. <quote on> Marina said she wanted nothing to do with the newly discovered ring. "If somebody has it, let them have it. I don't care," she said. Robert Oswald, Lee Harvey's brother who is retired and lives in Wichita Falls, said he would be pleased to examine the ring to make sure it was his brother's. "If the lawyer wants to send it to me, fine," he said. "If not, that's fine also. But it should stay in the family." <quote off> "Stay" in the family? Seems the ring has already "left" the family. PF

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dw...ing.ce2890.html <quote on> No one sure who owns simple wedding band with complex past 03:53 PM CDT on Saturday, October 27, 2007 By HUGH AYNESWORTH / Special Contributor to The Dallas Morning News FORT WORTH – A few years ago, a local lawyer noticed a cache of legal papers in a seldom-used file area at his firm – a discovery that set in motion a bizarre and intriguing connection to the day John F. Kennedy was killed in Dallas. Stuffed in with those legal documents was a small gold wedding band. That ring almost assuredly was Lee Harvey Oswald's. "I don't think anybody has any doubt about that," said Luke Ellis, one of the partners at Brackett & Ellis. <quote off> For full article go to URL above. Peter Fokes

Hi James, I didn't realize at the time of my first post on this thread that I was also referring to a Jim Murray photo. See page 608 in Trask's Pictures of the Pain. The tall man in middle of photo at top of page is carrying a jacket with left hand behind his head and wrist pressed against his ear. Sorry for delay. Chow. Peter Fokes

This is the only person I'm aware of who walked across the knoll as you describe with a jacket or coat in his hand. But he's clearly not the Morales lookalike being discussed. Edit: The image is a bmp image, and I've been informed by the forum software that this extension is not allowed. But trust me, it's not the same person. Hi Ron, Sorry for long delay! I cannot comment on your photo without seeing it. The Jim Murray photo mentioned in my post is published on page 608 of Pictures of the Pain by Trask. The tall man is carrying a jacket in his right hand and his left arm is raised with his wrist against his left ear. The jacket appears to be darker than I remembered. You can see the crowd milling about on the Elm St. sidewalk. Regards Peter Fokes

Hi James, A tall man in a light suit jacket carrying an overcoat in his right hand walked from west to east across the knoll a short while after the assassination. A crowd had gathered on Elm by the time the man walked across the knoll. Folks were milling on and off the sidewalk on the west side of the sign. I believe they were gathered around a police motorcycle. I posted a cropped photo of him on alt.assassination.jfk years ago and will see if I can dig it up. The man's short haircut, suitjacket and height remind me of this fellow. I'll try to find it. I'd also be delighted if someone who has photos of the crowd milling about near the motorcycle notice this man. He is to the left at a higher elevation than the other folks because he is walking by them up on the knoll. No one seemed to be paying any attention to him. Do you have an estimate of the time when this photo with the look-alike Morales was taken? Regards, PF

Hi David, I was about to ask Doug the same question. I hope he agrees. Peter Fokes