Terry Adams

As most know, Mr. Lane was the attorney for the newspaper in the E. Howard Hunt trial in Florida, where the jury found that the CIA was involved in the assassination of JFK. He says that Gerry Hemming told him that he was a shooter in Dealey Plaza. The enterview is fascinating. Anxious to hear your responses.

Terry

Bill,

I know that you are actively seeking a grand jury investigation. Does this require a District attorney to bring the information in front of such a jury? And, would it not be a good idea that this be brought from Texas, possibly arguing jurisdiction? It has always been stated that the feds had no right to remove JFK's body, car, etc. from dallas, as it was supposed to be a murder case tried locally, by the laws that were in place in 1963.

Terry

over 1,000 new members have come aboard. I am just curious as to the average age of the new members to the forum. What I'm really attempting to ascertain is whether the newer members are younger. The purpose being ; will a new generation continue in the fight for the truth, or will it end as we "old foggies" move on to the next level?

Terry

Steve,

It seems that you are you of the opinion that LBJ, and Hoover (as well as others) only participated after the fact. I feel very strongly that Johnson was in this from the very onset, or at least was brought into it very early on, and eagerly gave his blessings. I personally think that LBJ said that he would love to have this problem (JFK) go away, and found many who were eager to help. Would like to hear your thoughts.

Terry

This is refreshing!!!

Sentence of Reid

Remember the guy who got on a plane with a bomb built into his

shoe and tried to light it?

Did you know his trial is over?

Did you know he was sentenced?

Did you see/hear any of the judge's comments on TV or Radio?

Didn't think so.

Everyone should hear what the judge had to say.

Ruling by Judge William Young, US District Court.

Prior to sentencing, the Judge asked the defendant if he had

anything to say. His response: After admitting his guilt to the court

for the record, Reid also admitted his "allegiance to Osama bin Laden,

to Islam, and to the religion of Allah," defiantly stating, "I think I

will not apologize for my actions," and told the court "I am at war with

your country."

Judge Young then delivered the statement quoted below:

January 30, 2003, United States vs. Reid. Judge Young:

"Mr. Richard C. Reid, hearken now to the sentence the Court

imposes upon you.

On counts 1, 5 and 6 the Court sentences you to life in prison in

the custody of the United States Attorney General. On counts 2, 3, 4

and 7, the Court sentences you to 20 years in prison on each count, the

sentence on each count to run consecutively. (That's 80 years.)

On count 8 the Court sentences you to the mandatory 30 years

again, to be served consecutively to the 80 years just imposed. The

Court imposes upon you for each of the eight counts a fine of $250,000

that's an aggregate fine of $2 million. The Court accepts the

government's recommendation with respect to restitution and orders

restitution in the amount of $298.17 to Andre Bousquet and $5,784 to

American Airlines .

The Court imposes upon you an $800 special assessment. The Court

imposes upon you five years supervised release simply because the law

requires it. But the life sentences are real life sentences so I need

go no further.

This is the sentence that is provided for by our statutes. It is

a fair and just sentence. It is a righteous sentence.

Now, let me explain this to you. We are not afraid of you or any

of your terrorist co-conspirators, Mr. Reid. We are Americans. We have

been through the fire before. There is too much war talk here and I say

that to every-one with the utmost respect. Here in this court, we deal

with individuals as individuals and care for individuals as individuals.

As human beings, we reach out for justice.

You are not an enemy combatant. You are a terrorist. You are not

a soldier in any war. You are a terrorist. To give you that reference,

to cal l you a soldier, gives you far too much stature. Whether the

officers of government do it or your attorney does it, or if you think

you are a soldier. You are not----- you are a terrorist. And we do not

negotiate with terrorists. We do not meet with terrorists. We do not

sign documents with terrorists. We hunt them down one by one and bring

them to justice.

So war talk is way out of line in this court. You are a big

fellow. But you are not that big. You're no warrior. I've known

warriors. You are a terrorist. A species of criminal that is guilty of

multiple attempted murders. In a very real sense, State Trooper

Santiago had it right when you first were taken off that plane and into

custody and you wondered where the press and the TV crews were, and he

said: "You're no big deal."

You are no big deal.

What your able counsel and what the equally able United States

attorneys have grappled with and what I have as honestly as I know how

tried to grapple with, is why you did something so horrific. What was

it that led you here to this courtroom today?

I have listened respectfully to what you have to say. And I ask

you to search your heart and ask yourself what sort of unfathomable hate

led you to do what you are guilty and admit you are guilty of doing?

And, I have an answer for you. It may not satisfy you, but as I search

this entire record, it comes as close to understanding as I know.

It seems to me you hate the one thing that to us is most precious.

You hate our freedom. Our individual freedom. Our individual freedom

to live as we choose, to come and go as we choose, to believe or not

believe as we individually choose. Here, in this society, the very wind

carries freedom. It carries it everywhere from sea to shining sea. It

is because we prize individual freedom so much that you are here in this

beautiful courtroom. So that everyone can see, truly see, that justice

is administered fairly, individually, and discretely. It is for

freedom's sake that your lawyers are striving so vigorously on your

behalf, have filed appeals, will go on in their representation of you

before other judges.

We Americans are all about freedom. Because we all know that the

way we treat you, Mr. Reid, is the measure of our own liberties. Make

no mistake though. It is yet true that we will bare any burden; pay any

price, to preserve our freedoms. Look around this courtroom. Mark it

well. The world is not going to long remember what you or I say here.

The day after tomorrow, it will be forgotten, but this, however, will

long endure.

Here in this courtroom and courtrooms all across America, the

American people will gather to see that justice, individual justice,

justice, not war, individual justice is in fact being done. The very

President of the United States through his officers will have to come

into courtrooms and lay out evidence on which specific matters can be

judged and juries of citizens will gather to sit and judge that evidence

democratically, to mold and shape and refine our sense of justice.

See that flag, Mr. Reid? That's the flag of the United States of

America. That flag will fly there long after this is all forgotten.

That flag stands for freedom. And it always will.

Mr. Custody Officer. Stand him down.

So, how much of this Judge's comments did we hear on our TV sets? I personally heard almost nothing. I would appreciate any and all comments. This just made me feel that there is still hope.

Terry

Stephen,

Do we explain all of this away as "not wanting to cause Mrs. Kennedy more pain'. Or, was the head and brain in too bad a shape to even be examined properly. For instance, could the scalp have even been shaved. I am in reference to the "flurry of shots". Was there even a head , or brain, for that matter, to do an autopsy on? I keep coming back to the same thought, this was the President of the United States, for God's sake. A homeless person would have been given a more complete autopsy. We watch the new CSI shows on television, and they show that the autopsy tells everything. Dr. Henry Lee says that the body (and the crime scene) provides all of the answers. There is no justification for what went on that day. Everyone should have wanted to leave no stone unturned. Instead, we are left 40+ years later to continue asking "WHY"

Terry

The "Plan for a Coup in Cuba" was fully authorized by JFK and personally run by Robert Kennedy. Only about a dozen people in the US government knew the full scope of the plan, all of whom worked for the military or the CIA, or reported directly to Robert. The Kennedys' plan was prepared primarily by the US military, with the CIA playing a major supporting role.

Would not this "dozen or so" be the very people that we should be looking at. Secrets are best kept by only letting the least number of people know. Who are these people? Do the authors of "Ultimate Sacrifice" name them? We know that RFK felt that someone in that group had his brother murdered.

"If" JFK had agreed to the overthrow of Castro, then the only reason that a representative of the U.S.was in Havana, meeting with the Cuban president on 11-22-63, was to give the impression that all was well. I do not accept this. I do not believe that JFK knew anything about such plans. He said he would not attack Cuba, and he did not make such a statement just to appease the Russians. He meant it ! He was moving toward normalization of relations with Castro's government.

Terry

Jack,

Has any other newspapers, magazines written about Bush's sexual orientation, that you are aware of? This is the first that I have seen. Sorry that this has nothing to do with the JFK assassination, but, I also stand for morality in government.

Terry

The man Holt said was him in the "Boys" photo does not look like him.

Jack

That's because Holt never said that, which means you are lying, spreading disinformation, whatever you wanna call it.

Wim

Wim, would you have access to the rest of that enterview with Chauncey Holt?

thanks,

Terry

Ron, I'm not familiar with Sprague's book, but how could such a WWII hero be part of the conspiracy to kill JFK?

The kind of person (patriot) that Mr. Gabaldon seemed to be and planning to kill the president do not mesh IMO. My father served in WWII, where he received 3 purple hearts, a bronze star and silver star medal He had great admiration for the president. I think that much of that admiration had to do with JFK's wartime service.

Terry

Ron,

Maybe you just found what has been wrong with W all the time. He is debating himself (the one that drinks, possibly?) You know when he does that famous "uuuh", he may be listening to drunk W.

Terry

George De Mohrenschildt, the son of a wealthy noble, was born in Russia on 17th April, 1911. After the Russian Revolution his father, Sergius Alexander von Mohrenschildt, was imprisoned by the Bolsheviks. In 1921 he was sent to Siberia but managed to escape with his family to Poland. His wife died soon afterwards from typhoid fever.

While a young man De Mohrenschildt left Poland and after travelling around Europe. He later claimed that he was involved in a pro-Nazi plot to kill Joseph Stalin. De Mohrenschildt reached the United States in 1938. The British intelligence services warned the American government that they suspected that De Monrenschildt was working for German intelligence.

De Mohrenschildt went to work for the Shumaker company in New York. He worked under Pierre Fraiss who was connected with French intelligence. De Mohrenschildt agreed to collect information on people involved in "pro-German activity". In 1939 he went to work for Humble Oil, a company founded by Prescott Bush.

In 1941 De Mohrenschildt went to work for his cousin, Baron Maydell, and his company, Film Facts, in New York. Maydell was also known to have pro-Nazi sympathies. During this period he made a documentary about the resistance movement in Poland. He also failed in his attempt to join the Office of Strategic Services (OSS).

After the Second World War De Mohrenschildt settled in Dallas where he worked for the oil millionaire, Clint Murchison. During this period he got to know Jackie Kennedy.

Ruth continued to live in Irving and at a party in February, 1963 she was introduced to Marina Oswald and Lee Harvey Oswald by George De Mohrenschildt. On 24th April, 1963, Marina and her daughter went to live with Ruth Paine. Lee Harvey Oswald rented a room in Dallas but stored some of his possessions in Ruth Paine’s garage. Ruth also helped Oswald to get a job at the Texas Book Depository.

In October, 1962 De Mohrenschildt became friends with Lee Harvey Oswald in Fort Worth. He suggested that Oswald should move to Dallas. In February, 1963 he introduced Marina Oswald and Lee Harvey Oswald to Ruth Paine. On 24th April, 1963, Marina and her daughter went to live with Paine. Oswald rented a room in Dallas but stored some of his possessions in Ruth Paine’s garage. Ruth also helped Oswald to get a job at the Texas Book Depository.

In 1963 De Mohrenschildt moved to Haiti. After the assassination of John F. Kennedy De Mohrenschildt was recalled to America to testify before the Warren Commission. He was asked about the claim of Marina Oswald that he knew about Oswald's attempt to kill General Edwin Walker. After giving evidence he returned to Haiti.

De Mohrenschildt returned to the United States in 1977. He approached Edward Jay Epstein complaining that he was short of money. Epstein offered him $4,000 for an interview. During their talks De Mohrenschildt admitted that in 1962 he had been contacted by J. Walton Moore, who was employed by the Central Intelligence Agency in Dallas. De Mohrenschildt was asked by Moore to find out about Oswald's time in the Soviet Union. In return he was given help with an oil deal he was negotiating with Papa Doc Duvalier, the Haitian dictator. In March 1963, De Mohrenschildt got the contract from the Haitian government. He had assumed that this was because of the help he had given to the CIA.

On 29th March, 1977, Epstein and De Mohrenschildt, broke for lunch and decided to meet again at 3 p.m. George De Mohrenschildt returned to his room where he found a card from Gaeton Fonzi, an investigator working for the Select House Committee on Assassinations. George De Mohrenschildt's body was found later that day. He had apparently committed suicide by shooting himself in the mouth.

John, that is the firt time that I have read the dates of the CIA-Oswald- Mohrenschildt association. (causing another one of those darned coincidences). People have always wondered why someone of Mohrenschildt's background would be socializing with LHO. Upon hearing of the assassination, he was quoting as saying something to the effect of "I certainly hope Lee is not the one" IMO, Oswald would have told Mohrenschildt his feelings about JFK, and probably, in an effort to impress, some information beyond the Walker shooting. (If we are to believe Marina) I'm wondering that when he agreed to the enterview with Epstein in 1972, if he were actually planning to tell more than some people would have wanted to be known. (He was certainly in a bad financial situation, something he was not accustomed to). Do you know if he had been paid for the enterview before his untimely demise.

Terry

Dr. Finck said that he had done hundreds of autopsies. It would be difficult to address the particulars of one autopsy, given that he had done so many. That is, unless the one autopsy on which he participated on Nov. 22, 1963 was different, in some way, than all the others. That difference being, the autopsy was done on the President of the United States. I find it disgusting the number of times that he used, " I don't Know" or " I can't remember" as answers to direct questions. The events of that night, the measurements, every minute of that autopsy, would forever be burned into his memory. He was the perfect soldier, following orders no matter the consequences.

Terry

Francesca,

When I stood near the sixth floor window and on the "X" in the street, I came to a very different conclusion. But, more than anything else, I just felt sick, instantly aware of the lies and coverup that our government perpetratrated on us. I don't see how anyone could go there and be convinced that all (or) any of the shots came from the "sniper's nest". As it has been mentioned so many times before, the shot from that location would have been a frontal on Houston Street. I wonder how many other people had that same feeling that I had. I arrived in Dealey Plaza at 2:00 A.M., and the streets were empty. So, I was able to walk down Houston, turn the corner on Elm and continue down to where "X" marks the spot. Just a layperson's opinion, which doesn't mean much, but the shot at Z313 came from the front.

Terry

Andy,

I did in fact, have a contusion to the head. In 1998, a station wagon knocked me down and busted my skull. I quickly ascertained that it was not a Rambler (lol). One of the results of this injury was short term memory loss. You have answered my question. What a relief. Now, it's back to the "REAL" coverup.

thank you,

Terry

In 1969 I borrowed a 13" color television from a furniture store that I worked for while attending a Community College in Eastern Kentucky. It was the first color television that my family had up until this time, so, I bought it. (By the way, it's cost was $898.00, financed, I might add, for 24 months) Based on the prices of the new HDTV models, I am satisfied that history does, in fact, repeat itself. Anyway, back to the subject, how is it that a 54 year old man, who considers himself sufficiently educated (University of Kentucky) and fairly intelligent, is now questioning something that is one of the most imprtant events of all time. I have spent considerable time attempting to make a determination as to how I have reached this point. Would someone please enlighten me as to how something of this magnitude (the questioning of the reality of the moon landing) could possibly have happened.

Terry

Rant and threadjack away Blair, because you are dead on. Exactly the reaction that I was hoping for (with some extra icing). The reality show is not a bad idea either, minus the murder. (remember, the Dealey plaza "thing" was supposed to be a drill, fear factor style).

Terry

Mr. Carroll also wrote:

But please tell me how many of them has ever testified to this identification under penalty of perjury?

Is this your litmus test of veracity? The people that testified to the Warren Commission were not subject to the penalty of perjury.

People are more likely to be conscientious when they are under penalty of perjury. Every witness before the Warren Commission was under penalty of perjury, with the exception of Lyndon and Lady Bird Johnson, who refused to take an oath to tell the truth.

You choose to believe Helen Markham. Please tell me if she ever testified in a court of law.

I said I did not believe her identification of Lee Oswald, though not really because of any fault on her part. I do not know if Helen Markham ever testified in a court of law, but if she did I know of no reason to doubt that she would tell the truth to the best of her ability.

Silly I'm sure, but I have to ask. Were LBJ and the First Lady asked to be sworn in, and actually said no, or was this a courtesy offerd them because of their position(s).

Terry

On Dateline NBC, the reporter referred to this case as " to the conspsiracy theorists , this story is the same as Dealey Plaza, and Roswell, New Mexico". Read this link;http://www.atheists.org/flash.line/calvi5.htm. This kind of statement from the news media is exactly why nothing will be done to solve the murder of JFK. This man casually compared the president's assassination to the supposed events at Roswell. It seems to me that any new interest ( the recent Hour-long session on the Conspiracy ) is stopped in it's tracks by such reckless statements.

Terry

the Russians at Pravda are reporting on the press meeting, but not the US press so far.....

To me this is truly ironic. I remember back in my youth pitying the poor Russians with their controlled media and wondering why they were content to be such sheeple. I have lived to see the situation almost reversed, with the sheeple being in America with a controlled media, and Russia's Pravda reporting like a free press. I don't know how free Pravda actually is nowadays, but it can't be any worse than what we've got today in the U.S. "republic."

Ron,

If the paper that I read is the Pravda that I had heard about all of my life, I have been missing some very interesting and enligtening information (Example: Kevin Costner's "massage"). But, as you stated, Where are the Sheeple? I saw some very beautiful people in the photography that was provided. I certainly got a kick out of the "cat story". Again, as stated above, if this is the official paper of the Russian Government, I want to become a subscriber.

Terry

It has been mentioned that two people in RFK's entourage knew that the Senator was to go through the kitchen. Apparently though, they forgot to tell RFK, because someone said "This way Senator". And, as John pointed out, how on earth would Sirhan know this? This fact alone says conspiracy, whether or not there were two shooters ( Although, I believe Cesar was the killer of Robert F. Kennedy.

Terry

Mr. McClellan,

I too, want to welcome you to the forum. I cannot imagine what it must have taken, least of all the obvious risks, to come forward with the information that you have presented. It is so sad though, that the govt. has done NOTHING with that information. I am looking forward to your posts.

Terry

With the FBI's recent attempt at confiscating Mr Anderson's papers, I was wondering if anyone on the forum knows the family or might suggest to someone to ask the family for permission to look at his JFK info. An incentive would be royalties from a book.

Well, Mr. Hemming, I am certainly glad to hear that you are still with us. I am sure that you are reading this as jfk research is one of the "good" habits that we just can't put down, lol. So, please come back and correspond with us again. You are missed.

Terry

I, too hope that Mr. Hemming has not passed. He mentioned in one post that he was in a wheelchair and using oxygen. It was apparent that he was very frustrated with what he had become after having been who he was. (Special ops., soldier of fortune, etc.) Has anyone on the forum been corresponding with him via e-mail? When I first started reading this particular thread of Tim's, I felt that might be the case. I certainly hope that we can find out if he is still with the living. I will be the first to say that his life must have been as fascinating as any hollywood movie could have made it. I remember him saying that he did not know who killed JFK, but I feel that he knew much more than he was saying.

Terry