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Congrats Greg! I have read it, and it definitely puts some light in the dark of corners of the room. Can't wait for #3
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Once again, it was an extract, the bold type was meant to point out that Caufield had not totally dismissed all of Deans information! Simple as that. If you find that objectionable that's your prerogative.
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You also wrote: "One example of this is Dean’s claim that Mormon Ezra Taft Benson was a part of the conspiracy. That is not too hard to believe..."
Uh,no Ernie, I did not write that line. That was an extract from the book, should have put it in quotes.
Thanks for the contact info.
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Ernie, Fair enough, perhaps I was presumptive on Steve Benson’s views regarding his Grandfather. However, you are the one who presented those views and his critical comments. I thought perhaps he would have passed on some supporting reasons for those views to you. Neither Caufield nor I are accusing Ezra Taft Benson of being a plotter. That was Dean’s theory! However, he does come up in the Milteer saga, and given his (Benson’s) politics, I think it deserves a curious look, which is the way it was presented in the book. I wouldn’t mind asking Steve Benson his reasons, but I have no contact info for him. I will look into it.
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David asked; “If a large conspiracy and larger cover-up were perpetrated against Kennedy with Walker at its head, one wants to know what political allies Walker retained in US military leadership after his resignation and throughout his post-military political activities.
This is something that is somewhat missing in the Caufield book, other than the Charles Willoughby association. Did Walker have political support in the military after his resignation?”David,
I presume you mean active military?
He most likely did, but they would be extremely reluctant to show it after Walkers troubles. So, it’s hard to say or document for sure.
He had numerous Ex-military associates and supporters, which is covered to some extent in Chapter 8. There was more that had to be left out, due to limitations in book size.
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Ernie wrote' "I respectfully suggest that if you want to be considered a fair-minded and thoughtful researcher that you should not automatically dismiss data which does not conform to your preferred theory."
First off this is not "my preferred theory". Secondly, On what basis does Steven base his opinion that the theory is a “ridiculous, unfounded, spurious and outlandish claim."
How does he know that he had full knowledge of his Grandfathers life and secrets? Can he explain his Grandfather's association with Milteer?
He may well be right , but should we just take his word for it?
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Steve Benson's reply:
"That is a ridiculous, unfounded, spurious and outlandish claim."
What the H_ll else would he say!?
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Dr. Caufield wants his readers not to think he disregards Harry Dean as a witness!
While it is true that Caufield has found some faults in the way Dean has told his story, in the end he concludes that Dean did indeed have inside knowledge about the assassination conspiracy and General Walker. One example of this is Dean’s claim that Mormon Ezra Taft Benson was a part of the conspiracy. That is not too hard to believe when you consider that Joseph Milteer, a General Walker associate, met with Benson a month before the murder in Utah. Milteer also had a bank account set up in Provo under an assumed name with considerable amounts of money for no honest reason. A massive amount of new evidence is presented on Milteer, who we know had pretty dead-on accurate foreknowledge of the JFK murder. There are more examples like this about Dean’s unique knowledge in the book.
Caufield concludes that Dean has not deliberately lied or attempted to fool anyone. He gets a little off line when he tries to interpret events he had no firsthand knowledge of, through those he did have knowledge of. Given that, I think Dean deserves that we take a kinder, more understanding and appreciative approach to him and his story.
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The document I referred to was a 164 page Memorandum by Sen. Gale McGee called "Right Wing Movements and 1964" forwarded to JFK by WH assistant Myer (Mike) Feldman,on August 16 1963. It seems to be an lengthy addendum or update to the Ruether memo in regard to future needed actions in combating Right Wing tactics, especially in the upcoming 1964 elections.
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Yes, the Reuther Memorandum is an important document as well, and was cited by Walker and Hargis (among others) as propaganda from the left, as I recall.
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Sorry to be such a pimp ,but hey...what can I say?
Now available at www.JeffreyCaufield.com and soon everywhere!
General Walker and the Murder of President Kennedy: The Extensive New Evidence of a Radical-Right Conspiracy; $39.00
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John, no it does not. Like i said one would like to include everything, but it's not possible. Main focus was 1960 onward. I think you will find a lot of common interest in the content of this work. You are on the same wavelength as we are many respects.I know ( via your older posts) you are hip to some of the things that are covered in the book.
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Many intelligent people are lousy public speakers, one factor does not always follow the other. Walker had a lot of assistance in his PR image building campaign over the years. Once they abandoned him ,he became just another eccentric of society. This subsequently fooled many people as to Walkers true power and allegiance at the peak of his celebrity. He was to be that; "Man on the White Horse" that the Rightists longed for. At one point he surely appeared to be that guy, only to disappoint at a later date. There are various reasons for this end result, that are more complex than some imagine. It's an amazing story in itself.
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What further triggered the Kennedy's paranoia about Walker was the "Fulbright Memorandum", and a subsequent separate commissioned report/analysis by a Jewish gentleman ( which I will look up), that warned the K's about the 'threat from the Right" I have this report, and it's far more extensive and detailed than the Fulbright Memorandum. Therefore, the Kennedy's were well aware of who and what the nature of their enemies were at this congruent time. It defiantly had to further their negative reaction to Walker! It is spelled out clearly!
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Right, I gather that reporter for OW was Siegfried Naujocks, who Walker had banned from access to the base, after he was caught snooping around command HQ's, looking for dirt on Ted.
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I not sure who Walker is referring to as "this outfit" perhaps it is the Military brass as you say but, might he be referring to 'Overseas Weekly", as he compares it to "American Week End" (Which I presume to be a paper as well?)
Just wondering if there is any further context to go from.?
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Yep Paul, same thing happened to me. Jim Root had a better experience somehow in this regard, and got early access to the collection.The Nephew was very protective of Ted and family, or so I was told by the archivist whom I talked to.
I do recall now coming across letters to Frank also, this puzzles me...code name for George in sensitive matters perhaps? ?
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Evidently the brother was named George also after (Daddy) George Pinckney Walker, so nephew may have been a Jr.
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Bernie I think Paul would have access to that info faster. I have info but it's packed away now. I believe he had a brother, which he mentions in letters. I think his nephew is named George Walker, who donated the Walker Papers to UT. His Obit says that the nephew is only survivor. Not sure he is still around but should be.
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Interesting stuff. Although Walker claimed other reasons for his resignation, this is something to consider as an underlying factor. Although it's based on anonymous rumor and innuendo it is none the less something that Walker had to fear...being 'outed' Perhaps 'The Overseas Weekly ' had this info as well and kept it as a blackmail piece to force Walker into a no win situation.
One can only wonder why he would expose himself to running for Governor with these things lurking in the background.Those who were against the idea of him running for public office for several reasons, may have feared this exposure as well.
I went through the Archibald Roberts collection at The University of Oregon and saw no material even suggesting he was gay, though that doesn't surprise me as many of these collections were sanitized/purged of sensitive info by family or their attorneys et al. prior to donation.
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Thanks Paul
Harry and Dr. Caufield have had several years of correspondence, which doesn't really play into the main focus of the book, although his input was considered.This controversy is a side issue distraction.
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Whether one finds the subject of Homosexuality in his case objectionable is not the issue. It did play a pivotal role in the overall case in several respects. Especially in Garrison’s original theory and concept of the case. Read Weisberg on this in his archive. He picked it off early. This was one of the issues that turned Harold against Garrison. I didn’t always agree with Weisberg, we knocked heads sometimes, yet on this I would agree.
This gets very involved and I have developed an analysis of it which I hope to present one day. The perpetrators and the cover –up artists used homosexuality as a means of deception, blackmail and implied culpability, via innuendo towards targeted individuals (‘Fall Guys”) in this case. It was a control mechanism. To sweep this element aside is just a mistake, IMO! If you didn’t grow up in those days, you probably don’t appreciate the underlying intensity of the issue, and the threat it presented to those who had something to hide. It was very powerful!
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For those looking to see Walker in filmed speeches, I'm afraid you'll have to go as we did, to the Mississippi State Archives in Jackson Miss. They will not release these on loan or copy said films. We stumbled upon them by accident as I recall, among other newsreel material of the period. We were there twice,4 years apart.... and the second time I could not find some of this stuff again in the index of materials I remembered they were in.The Archivist was not in that day, so I was SOL. Unfortunately, I did not make detailed notes as to where exactly they were filed the previous time, so I may have missed them. Frankly, I thought they would be easily re -found, but not so...my mistake! I hope they weren't removed as some of the other Mississippi Sovereignty Commission stuff was. Purging goes on all the time , don't think it doesn't!.
Always make notes of everything you may want to revisit when doing research!
One film that I clearly recall was Surrey driving Walker onto Oxford campus in a station wagon, with the National Guard and police standing in the background watching him enter campus.
Incidentally, Oxford (University of Miss) is a beautiful campus and town. We were there last in May 2014, to look at the Senator James O. Eastland papers.
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Having no professional skills in analyzing the mental health of a subject, I will not venture to declare a diagnosis on Walker. However, I will say he definitely suffered from some sort of (or several) maladies or afflictions.
After studying his speeches visually on film, it seems he had bouts of stage-fright and or drug induced type lapses. His hands would shake, his lips would quiver, he would stutter and stammer over simple words as if he were distracted by some unseen affliction. In the next minute he would seemingly be able to compose himself and speak with authority as if the moment had passed. Was he just a poor speaker in general? Yes, yet not always! I think it went deeper than that on some other level that I can't pinpoint. I think a psychologist could have field day watching this man, in some ways he reminded me of Hitler, and his up and down speech cadence, and bursts of venom.
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LHOCW VOL 2 now available
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"The next volume is the plain brown wrapper version."
Greg, uhh, How long is that "plain brown wrapper"
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