Cigdem Göle

It is going to be a great game indeed. And hopefully, Turkey will win but who knows, it is football, anything can happen!

Maybe not the best tango scene in a film but quite inspirational. Al Pacino and Gabrielle Anwar in Scent Of A Woman http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxS68fAA2FY

A bit of a pessimistic song from Ash, yet wonderful lyrics. Behold this night, still and clear You look here just like an angel sleeping I wish I could ease your fears I would catch the diamond tears you're weeping In your eyes I would hide By your side I could defy The forces tearing us apart But reality, as it seems Looking back, is that our dream Was fated from the start We're star-crossed and can't escape We're condemned and can only wait At this time now it's far too late To save us from our fate I'll remain in your hold Body, mind, heart and soul As long as I breathe Though consequence takes its toll All is out of our control That's how it will be So close your eyes my young bride Listen to me one last time There's something I have to say When your faith turns to despair Always will my love be there And never fade away We're star-crossed and can't escape We're condemned and can only wait At this time now it's far too late To save us from our fate You can't save us You can't save us At this time now it's far too late The poison's in our veins It's true You know that I'd die for you You know that I'd die for you You know that I'd die for you Forever true I'll see you through Starcrossed - Ash

Thank you for your kind words, Uwe. It's going to be a nice, short break. P.S. Good luck to Germany in tomorrow's game!

That's the place where I'll be next week!!! See the link below. http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g297962-d599141-Reviews-Riva_Costa_Holiday_Club-Antalya_Turkish_Mediterranean_Coast.html I recommend the Mediterenean coast to everyone who wants to have a great time.

And the hardest part was letting go, not taking part. The Hardest Part - Coldplay

Follow through Make your dreams come true Don't give up the fight You will be all right Cause there's no one like you In the universe Don't be afraid What your mind conceives You should make a stand Stand up for what you believe And tonight we can truly say Together we're invincible And during the struggle They will pull us down But please, please let's use this chance to Turn things around And tonight we can truly say Together we're invincible Do it on your own Makes no difference to me What you leave behind What you choose to be and whatever they say Your soul's unbreakable And during the struggle They will pull us down But please, please let's use this chance to Turn things around And tonight we can truly say Together we're invincible Together we're invincible Invincible - Muse

Discs 1. Black Holes and Revelations - Muse 2. Hopes and Fears - Keane 3. Send Away The Tigers - Manic Street Preachers 4. Here Come The Tears - The Tears 5. Only Forever - Puressence 6. Planet Helpless - Puressence 7. Coming Up - Suede 8. Takk - Sigur Ros Book : One Man's Destiny - Michail Sholokhov (alternative for book, Lolita - Vladimir Nabokov)

European & World Champion Russian figure skater Evgeni Plushenko. ------------ Two great performances at the same time, Andrea Bocelli singing Caruso and Plushenko on ice, fascinating! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2oM-y013MM...feature=related

Song D'Automne (slow waltz), Archibald Joyce

Manic Street Preachers, Chris Cornell, Franz Ferdinand. 2007 - Rock'n Coke Festival, Istanbul. Morrissey 2006 - Efes Pilsen One Love Festival, Istanbul.

"It's just too hot to wear clothes today", Jack says as he stepped out of the shower, "Honey, what do you think the neighbors would think if I mowed the lawn like this?" "Probably that I married you for your money", she replied. ----------------- He said : I'm going to make you the happiest woman in the world. She said: I'll miss you! ---------------- Q : What do you call an intelligent, good looking, sensitive man? A : A rumor.

People create their own opportunities. It's important to chase them for a better life instead of sitting and complaining about how unjust life is. Mostly the cause of this is fear. Fear of pursuing one's dreams or fear of failure. Until the day we are able to see that the power to turn "impossible" into "real" is in fact within our souls, life will be perceived as unfair. "Come to the cliff", he said. They said, "We're afraid" "Come to the cliff", he said. They came. He pushed them. And they flew. --Stuart Wilde

"And what do you want of me", she challenged. ... Her eyes, wide and large and wondering, watched him and asked him the ultimate question. "I came because I must", he said. "Why do you ask?" She looked at him in doubt and wonder. "I must ask", she said. He shook his head slightly. "There is no answer", he replied, with strange vacancy. ... "But why did you come to me?" she persisted "Because - it has to be so. If there weren't you in the world, then I shouldn't be in the world, either." She stood looking at him, with large, wide, wondering, stricken eyes. His eyes were looking steadily into hers all the time, and he seemed fixed in an odd supernatural steadfastness. She sighed. She was lost now. She had no choice. -------- Women In Love - D.H. Lawrence (Chapter XXIV, Death and Love)

Kill me I begged and love said no Leave me for dead and let me go Kill me I cried and love said no HIM - And Love Said No

It works both ways. The terrorist's aim, by definiton, is to terrorize, therefore, no life is sacred and all can be expendable for "the cause" however unreasonable it might be. Considering this, the terrorized feel no sympathy for those who make them suffer, which is understandable. But wanting to see them hanged is extreme. The more extreme the terror, the greater the impulse to vengeance, the more sacred, liberating, and lasting the impacts of forgiveness. Unfortunately, not every one of us chooses to forgive, that's why the terror probably will not end.

It works both ways. The terrorist's aim, by definiton, is to terrorize, therefore, no life is sacred and all can be expendable for "the cause" however unreasonable it might be. Considering this, the terrorized feel no sympathy for those who make them suffer, which is understandable. But wanting to see them hanged is extreme.

I'm also against death penalty. ----- In Turkey's long term fight against the terrorist organization (pkk), it must not be forgotten that many innocent people were killed from both sides. I agree, Saddam's treatment towards civilians in Northern Iraq was horrendous. At this point I also have to say, as a person who travelled to the border several times, I've never witnessed or heard of any acts of violence from the Turkish Army to the Kurds who have nothing to do with the terrorist group.

Hey hey, good times You're in so many lives Why don't you walk into mine? I've waited here for a lifetime But you never showed your face I'm sorry if I've been wasting my time I lied to myself I lie and I know I can't figure out how my story goes But, I lie to myself And there's no Holy Grail So why don't you come and lay your body down on my bed of nails? Hey hey I'm down Well I'm stuck in a hole and I can't see any way out Remember when we were younger And I showed you what to say And now it seems I've lost that hunger Why don't you lay Why don't you lay Why don't you come and lay your body down? I thought it would last a lifetime It only lasts a day You've started wasting my time Why don't you come and change the way I lie to myself I lie and I know I can't figure out how my story goes I lie to myself I lie all the time I can't figure out why what's yours ain't mine Hear me out (Hear me out) Hear me out (Why don't you hear me out?) Hear me now (Hear me now) Hear me now --------- Hey Hey I'm Down - Puressence

You youngin's with your Youtube. (Youngin?? Who? Me?? ) I don't think it's online, but here's the transcript. Thanks for the transcript. I also find it interesting that he says Oswald put his hands in his pockets and walked away laughing. He seems strangely casual for an assassin who was about to shoot the president. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/sh...etc/script.html The logical interpretation of Norman's words is that he was talking about looking down from a window sometime before lunch. But it sure seems strange that he says "we was waiting" when Kennedy was at least an hour away, and radios were playing all over the building. It's not as if he was just gonna show up un-announced. Maybe he momentarily blurred his recollection of watching the motorcade with his memory of seeing Oswald earlier in the day, and mis-spoke. I suppose my interest in Norman was piqued by my discovery of this quote the other day... (11-09-83 AP article found in the Indiana Gazette) ""I didn't see the gun barrel but I did see the debris that fell in one of my friend's hair. I could hear a gun going off above us, and the debris fell each time there was a shot," said Norman. The debris was dust and tiny pieces of concrete broken loose by the concussion of the rifle, he said. "I sure do see that scene — sometimes pretty regularly. Sometimes I'll be driving down the street and thinking about it," he said. "I can close my eyes and see President Kennedy again. One minute he's smiling and waving and then he's slumped back and wounded.'' Norman said he never believed a conspiracy was involved in the assassination, but he also never fully believed his coworker —Oswald—was the trigger man." Now what does that mean? If he never believed there was a conspiracy, but also never fully believed Oswald was the trigger man, then he must have suspected that some other lone nut killed JFK, right? And that the DPD and FBI framed Oswald. Now, that would be strange!

I haven't heard that before. Sounds strange. Pat, Could you provide any links (youtube/google video) to the PBS program?

[ And to answer Cigdem's question ... it would not rule out a SK shooter if the bullet didn't hit on a tangent angle to the head for then little energy would be dispersed and the bullet would make a straight through hole in the brain with little shredding. And while I have doubts about the brain that was referenced as being JFK's ... there was mention of a lot of shredding of tissue which supports a tangent strike to the skull. Bill[/b] I see a SK shooter as a possibility whereas I have doubts about whether the shot(s) fired from there (if any) hit JFK. I guess this is going a bit off from the original topic, sorry. Thanks again, Bill.

I think Dr. Clark explained that when a bullet hits on a tangent angle ... that because it sheds so much energy ... it often changes direction. With that being said, a bullet could hit JFK along the outer bone plate from the Hat Man location and still have exited out the right rear portion of his skull. Bill Thanks Bill. I remember reading the same thing somewhere, too. But does that completely rule out the possibility of a SK shooter?

Have you considered a shot from the South Knoll area? Just curious. Kathy Hi Kathy, I think south knoll shot is a probable one looking at the angle of the headshot. I also find it likely that there was another shooter in the north knoll but from what I see in the Z-Film, if JFK had been hit by a bullet fired from the north knoll it would have transitted his head at a rather horizontal angle exiting somewhere near his left temple. Of course, I'm not an expert on this. It's just an observation. I wish I had some drawings to show what I mean. Maybe someone could help on this.

I agree with the above poster, Justin. Dee Brown's Bury My Heart At Wounded Knee is a great work in understanding the Indian perspective. And it's truly touching. Two other books I'd recommend are, Josanie's War : A Chiricahua Apache Novel by Karl Schlesier Other Destinies by Louis Owens. (Both books deal with Indian literature).