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Mr. DOUGHERTY - Well, then immediately I heard a loud noise---it sounded like a car backfiring, and I came back down to the first floor, and I asked Eddie Piper, I said, "Piper, what was that?" I says, "Has the President been shot?'. He said, "Yes."
Mr. BALL - You didn't say--did you say, 'Has the President been shot?"---you told the FBI agent that you went down to the first floor and you saw a man named Eddie Piper and asked him if he heard a loud noise.
Who's telling the story here?
Who's the next witness that did not see Oswald.
And who was Officer Denham escorting from the third floor for
"Acting suspiciously"?
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50 years of spin cannot put Oswald on the sixth floor!
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Paul T
Is this the antithesis stage of your investigation or are We
Meant to supply this?.
Ian
Ian,
OMG! You mean he's gonna develop a synthesis, too?
Heaven forbid.
--Tommy
Tommy
And not just any old synthesis a dialectical synthesis no less
I fear he has fooled himself in backing Hegelian philosophy
To bust the case.
"I am pink therefore I am Oswald"
Ian
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Paul T
Is this the antithesis stage of your investigation or are We
Meant to supply this?.
Ian
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Tom
It appears this is all too much for some to consider .
I am convinced there is more of this amongst Oswalds possessions
Those that thought Oswald was not too bright will have to think again
Maybe this changes too many theories for comment?.
If Oswald was the Author it explains a lot
If its a red herring then it brings bigger questions .
Ian
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Richard
What can I say boats get floated!.
Paul Trejo
Your western union man was Hamblen there is an excellent
Thread on this by Lee Farley and others it's called "show me the money"
Ian
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Skull tops and melons ! Is'nt this what they teach at Hogwarts Dave?.
I realise there were not many in the volunteer queue for this assignment
But it was for enquiry into the death of a president no less.
Could they not procure the right "equipment" to carry out the correct experiment
Or were they looking for a pre-conceived easy answer i.e.
Muddle the test ,send in the report cos nobody will question it anyway.
Ian
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Tommy
Are you blushing?
Try Shakespeare for euphemisms .
The "act" differentiates between thinking and doing.
A man was arrested for a tryst with a camel? No dinner ,no candlelight
Just a good old fashioned trysting !.
I believe Chubby Checker built a career on it.
Ian
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I believe they call them robots Ray.
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The deferential is in fear of his own mind trying to balance the "facts".
He/she will not allow questioning of those "facts" that's why they take it
So personally, which is why the insults and abuse start .
It reminds me of a boy and his son sitting on a beach
" dad why is the sky blue?"
" dunno son it just is , it always has been"
"Dad why is the sand brown?"
" dunno son it just is ,it always has been"
"Dad you don't mind me asking things do you?"
" not at all son and remember if you don't ask you will never learn a thing"!
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Mr. SPECTER. Were you able to ascertain the speed of the Presidential limousine at the time of the assassination?
Mr. SHANEYFELT. Yes; because we were able to determine the speed of the camera, and thereby accurately determine the length of time it takes for a specific number of frames to run through the camera at this 18.3 frames per second, and having located these frame positions in the street, we took the farthest distance point we had in the Zapruder film which was frame 161 through frame 313.
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Tommy
Oswald could have been a double patsy,his "intentions " to "tell the Russians
All I know" Powers downing killed the Paris peace summit .
Is this not a case of foreign policy being dictated by actions of others
And not the public words of the commander in chief .it appears this happened quite a lot
Among the same "set" of people.
Ian
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Perhaps this needs updating at Wiki
By resigning instead of retiring, Walker was unable to draw a pension from the Army. He made statements at the time to the Dallas Morning News that he had "refused" to take his pension. However, he had made several previous requests for his pension dating back to 1973. The Army restored his pension rights in 1982.[36]
Walker, then 66, was arrested on June 23, 1976 for public lewdness in a restroom at a Dallas park and accused of fondling an undercover policeman.[37][38][39] He was arrested again in Dallas for public lewdness on March 16, 1977.[40][41] He pled no contest to one of the two misdemeanor charges, was given a suspended, 30-day jail sentence, and fined $1,000.[42]
Just a thought but when was the last time a gay man come out on top or actually won!.
Walker
Ruby
Shaw
Oswald?
And I am sure there are others who were used because of their homosexuality.
What power could they gain for it to be removed with one sentence.
I propose that these people were informed of enough to know what was going
To happen in Dallas.
Why would Walker need Rousselot Or Hall or Howard ?.
We're the minutemen on wages?.
If we are meant to believe history was changed by a lone nut with a $20 rifle
Then Walker had the same opportunity as Oswald only better shots and organisation.
If Walker was a self obsessed nut why not pull the trigger himself?
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He may release a book of illustrations only no text it's called
Face Closed.
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Paul
For the love of money is the root of all evil:
which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.
They got smart and paid somebody else to do the piercing on others.
Which left them with clean hands and a heavy conscience..
And an even heavier bank balance.
Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
Follow the money.
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Trump and Gates are paupers compared to this lot .
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rothschild_family
There are even truer histories of the family but they prefer them not to
Be published.
Eventually the new Russian oligarchs will lose their grip on the money
As they continue to slaughter each other whilst others watch on waiting
To collect!.
How much of the worlds wealth is controlled by the 10%.
They own or control the media that's why you have a little
Teletype strip at the bottom of your TV screen to tell you how
Afraid you should be today.
With a bank rate of .5 percent and a lending rate for payday loans
Of 1774% almost charity?.
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King Arthur?. Pure fiction old boy . http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_Morte_d'Arthur
Suggest you read Burkes peerage ( before ze Germans get here) it reads like ...well one of Toms posts
Full of crooks ,lies and bastards.
Walt Disney did entertainment not history.
What will Bill Gates or Trump leave as their legacy ?. A poker hand and bad hair.
They do not fit in Paul and never will this is what you are not understanding.
Walker followed orders then Had a moment of clarity on the 22nd about 12:31
When he realised he had been had.
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Somebody would have talked , had they known who to tell!
Who had the gold then ?
Who still has the gold?
Follow the golden rule ,those that have the gold make the rules
History is written by the victors and they are paid with the gold.
I believe Mr Dolva is correct.
Old money
Old families
Just like here at home in the U.K.
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Paul
The Decalogue was there long before Sir Thomas' book.
Corruption invades all ,be it capitalism ,communism or Fascism
It was not an ideal that killed JFK it was men with rifles.
Ian
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My definition of a professional .
Someone who gets paid for their services regardless of what happens to you.
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Hi Blair,
I’m don’t know what your interest is in this photo, but I’m interested because of the doctoring that’s apparently been done to it. I’d like to know if Oswald did it himself.
There’s a line running down the middle of his face, and the hairline and lips don’t match up. I’ve seen several versions of this photo, and they’re all a little different.
This one is from the John Armstrong Collection at Baylor, and it seems to have some oddities that the others don’t.
http://i1278.photobucket.com/albums/y520/TomHume440/box9nb5tab1p64_zpscd5e482c.jpg
First let me call your attention to the area around his left ear. There appears to be a tiny old man with a full white beard, and he’s wearing a pointed hat. It’s pretty fuzzy, so stand back from your monitor to perceive this cartoon guy.
http://i1278.photobucket.com/albums/y520/TomHume440/OldmanonOswaldsear_zps7042934b.jpg
If one cares to take the time to put this version of the Oswald photo on their photo program, I think one will find a collage of more faces, both animal and human - some right side up, some upside down, and some sideways.
About three inches above his right ear, there is a piece of crown molding in the background, the top of a wardrobe cabinate or something. In this picture it appears to be nearly touching his head.
In the other similar versions of this photo, that piece of molding is very distinct, but in this photo it’s fuzzy. Here’s what I get when I blow up that small section – stand way back from your monitor. The farther back I get, the better she looks. On closer inspection, she morphs into a pastiche of many faces.
http://i1278.photobucket.com/albums/y520/TomHume440/Womanonthecrownmolding_zpsf80469d8.jpg
Very curious.
Tom
Tom
Were you aware that Allen Dulles had a( prominent anthrilix) fault with his left ear?.
I believe his father to be afflicted too.
Ian
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This is clever stuff it all went over my head and I was standing on a chair whilst reading it.
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So is this thread about a lie or supporting the authenticity of the Zfilm?.
I.e the limo stopped
Chaney rode forward
JFK turned backwards
Just in case Mr Mandela Jr is tuned in!.
Marrion Baker identified Oswald in a lineup 11/22?
in JFK Assassination Debate
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Bill
I found it here:-
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=19782&page=2
Most of what you find will be where Denham was at the time of the shooting on traffic patrol
But Trantham said he saw Hill coming up the stairs at around the third floor Baker
Also met someone on the third/fourth floor in his original affadavit.
The tan jacket man.
Ian