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JOE ''40 years have assed'' Your not kidding imo, right now i am thinking that certainly more than 40 years have assed re the assassination and the research that's a positive......thanks.for a grin in the middle of all the
stress....b
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This is the latest email scam that is being sent around, it has been verified, you can also, if you receive such from your server, delete it...best b
Dear Valued Member, A DGTFX Virus has been detected in your xxxxxxxxxxx internet mail folders. Your email account has to be upgraded to our new Secured DGTFX anti-virus 2011 version to prevent damages to our web mail log and your important files. Click your reply tab,Fill the columns below and send back to us or your email account will be terminated to avoid spread of the virus.<br style="line-height: 17px; text-indent: 0px !important;">User ID:Current Password:Re confirm password: Occupation:Date of Birth: Country of Residence: <br style="line-height: 17px; text-indent: 0px !important;">After receiving the information requested you will be able to continue using your BT internet mail without hitches. Please do bear in mind that we reserve the right to close this BT internet account if this request isn't granted on time.<br style="line-height: 17px; text-indent: 0px !important;">Thank you.<br style="line-height: 17px; text-indent: 0px !important;">
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110203045041AA4PnDZ
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Word of warning,for your information, they whomever, not only got into and hacked the email addresses they then created a new email account in my name with the server,using yahoo, this was not done the last time, and they have been receiving all my emails since that day, it has been deleted now and the server is trying a trace, if that works???,so whomever they have been getting my garbage news alerts in and out all day, cause those that know have not sent anything..but beware as far as i know, no money of any kind was sent to the thief, but keep a heads up out there, thanks john..best bsooooo ps if you get an email supposedly from moi using my name followed by a 13 and a yahoo it is not from me, so xxxxe can it or try and trace it if you have the inkling.but watch your own, thanks,,best all b
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I HAVE JUST FOUND OUT, THAT MY EMAIL HAS BEEN HACKED AGAIN ON THE 27TH, I HAVE BEEN ON VERY LITTLE IN THE PAST FEW DAYS.SO IF YOU HAVE OR DO RECEIVE ANOTHER CRAP EMAIL ASKING FOR MONEY, YOU KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH IT, DELETE, THANKS MUCH SORRY ABOUT THE A/HS OUT THERE...sorry about caps......best b
Hi, Bernice
I did get an early-on email re; your being stuck
in Europe, or wherever.
And like others I figured to send money, but then
thought 'to heck with it' (humor intended)
Seriously, what damage is caused by these hacker
bastards to your position? Does it allow them to
grab (for example your saved emails)?
I have no doubt that such an expert has hacked
mine recently.
Harry
Hi Harry;
Thank you for the reply, this time i am suppose to be in England oh i wish, last year it was Spain.ha......all they took were the email addresses.and nothing of interest in those either, so no emails this time, so different in that way, from last year...no, no one is to send anything, i want to make it clear to All, if you ever receive such an email supposedly from me, i Cannot travel, so Disregard it..for your sake..whomever is trying to rip people off.......i have contacted my server, here we go again, nothing really to do except, begin to list them again......Hope you enjoyed your Christmas and all the very best for the coming New Year of course to you and yours,, please take care my friend, the very best to you...b
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I HAVE JUST FOUND OUT, THAT MY EMAIL HAS BEEN HACKED AGAIN ON THE 27TH, I HAVE BEEN ON VERY LITTLE IN THE PAST FEW DAYS.SO IF YOU HAVE OR DO RECEIVE ANOTHER CRAP EMAIL ASKING FOR MONEY, YOU KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH IT, DELETE, THANKS MUCH SORRY ABOUT THE A/HS OUT THERE...sorry about caps......best b
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Tom here are a few of James Altgens caught on others films, photos taken in Dealey Plaza that day.........B
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shots of the house, and a letter to Sprague...all for now..b
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trying a second time with these...b
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here are a couple of photos, from the scene, not posting any of the gory ones...fwiw b
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originally information from lisa pease.posted....fwiw..b
Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 02:19:33 GMT
Sender: lpease@netcom23.netcom.com
This was one of the few contributions McAdams ever made to this
newsgroup. Credit where credit is due, no matter how distasteful.
You have to draw this on paper for yourself. Draw the floor scheme. Draw
each room. Draw the house and where the windows are, including both the
alarm-connected ones and the open one. Note what DeM was reading and
doing. Note the events of the day. Note the pattern of the blood in the
room. It does not add up to suicide. See for yourself. Draw it out.
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Sheriff's Office
Palm Beach County
DEATH INVESTIGATION
Examiner 5100
Disposition Cleared By Exceptionally
1. Type of Crime death investigation (suicide)
2. Code 9545
3. Grid Code 12500
4. Date 3/29/77
5. Day of week Tuesday
6. Weather Clear
7. Case No. 77-11753
8. Occurred at 1780 South Ocean Boulevard
Manalapan, Florida
9. Unit tag number 1220
10. Zone C-1
11. Deputy No. 5104
12. Time Disp. 1455
13. Time Arr 15:20
14. Time Comp 03/30/77 @ 03:00
15. Assistant Manalapan P.D.
16. Resident or non-res. Non-resident
17. Police Agency on scene Manalapan Police Department
18. Name of Officer Patrolman Don McBride
19. Phone 585-4078
20. S.O. Investigating Office Det. Thomas Neighbors
21. I.D. No. 5104
22. Full Name of Deceased George deMohrenschildt
23. Street Address 2737 Kings Road, Apartment #142
Dallas, Texas
24. Previous Address Business Address: Bishop College
3837 Simpson-Stuart Road
Dallas, Texas
25. Age 65
26. Date of Birth 04-17-11
27. Race White
28. (Other) n/r
29. Sex Male
30. Height 6'1"
31. Weight 180#
32. Hair Brown
33. Eyes Blue
34. Where Body Found Upstairs hallway of 1780 South
Ocean Boulevard, Manalapan, Florida
35. By Whom Alexandra deMohrenschildt
36. Address 158 Villa Lengine
Mexico City, Mexico
37. Bus. phone None
38. Res phone n/r
39. Related yes--daughter
40. Inv. Officer viewed
body at Same as block #8
41. Body I.D. by Same as block #35
42. Body Photographed by Det. Gary Green/PBSO
43. Body Fingerprinted by Det. Gary Green/PBSO
44. Ambulance Company Scobee-Combs Funeral Home
45. Attendants Don Combs
Mike Bowden
46. Body Examined by Dr. Gabino Cuevas
47. Where Bethesda Memorial Hospital/morgue
48. Date 03-30-77
49. Time 1300 hours
50. Medical History
of Deceased Victim had history of mental
depression. On 11-09-76, his wife
had him committed to a mental
institution and listed four previous
suicide attempts in a notarized
affidavit.
51. Last Doctor to Examine
Deceased Prior to Death Unknown
52. Address n/a
53. Phone n/a
54. Date n/a
55. Autopsy Unknown
56. Name of Medical
Examiner Dr. Gabino Cuevas
57. Date 03-30-77
58. Cause of Death Gunshot to the brain
59. Body Released to Scobee-Combs Funeral Home
60. Address 1622 N. E. 4th Street
Boynton Beach, Florida
61. Date 03-30-77
62. Body Interred cremation
63. Nearest Relative Jeanne deMohrenschildt
64. Address 2737 Kings Road, Apt. #142
Dallas, Texas
65. Phone 213-363-6889
66. Relationship Wife
67. Disposition of Personal
Property of Deceased Personal papers and documents by this
department
68. Witness Name None
69. Address n/r
70. Res. Phone n/r
71. Bus. Phone n/r
72. Reporting Deputy's
Signature Det. Thomas Neighbors/lea
73. Crime Scene Tech
Called Yes: Det. Sgt. Ben Green
and Det. Gary T. Green
74. State TWX MSG. No [blank]
Local TWX MSG. No. n/r
75. N.C.I.C. No
At approximately 1455 hours, 29 March, 1977, this writer received
a telephone call from Det. Sgt. Louie Lee, Officer In Charge of the
Delray Beach Sub-station Detective Bureau, requesting this writer's
presence at 1780 South Ocean Boulevard, Manalapan, Florida, regarding
a shooting death at that location. Upon arrival at 1520 hours, this
writer encountered Sgt. Lee, Gary Green, of the PBSO Crime Scene Unit,
Chief Ralph Meadows of the Manalapan Police Department, and one of his
officers, Donald McBride. From the Manalapan officers it was learned
that they had received a call, at 1445 hours, to respond to the above
address regarding a shooting. Upon their arrival, they were directed
to the second floor of the residence; where, the deceased was found in
a small hallway at the south end of the home. The scene was secured,
after first determining that the victim was, indeed, dead; and this
department was notified.
This writer examined the scene with Det. Gary Green and observed
the victim slumped over in a high-backed chair in the southwest corner
of the hallway. His head was facing downward, and blood quite
prominently was dripping from his mouth in large amounts and
accumulating on the floor below. The head was painting in a northerly
direction; and the feet, both of which were touching the floor, were
pointed in a somewhat northeasterly direction. The deceased was
dressed in a blue, long-sleeve, turtle-neck sweater; white long pants
and dark stockings. Lying across the left foot was a double-barrel
shotgun, lying with the barrel pointing in a southeasterly direction.
The scene was turned over to Detective Gary Green for photographing
and processing (refer to his supplementary report to this case number
for details of his investigation).
Also present in the house at the time of this investigation were
MRS. NANCY TILTON, owner of the residence; MISS ALEXANDRA
deMOHRENSCHILDT, daughter of the deceased; MISS KATHERINE LOOMIS, a
friend of Alexandra deMohrenschildt and house guest of Mrs. Tilton;
and MR. COLEY WIMBLEY, who is the live-in yard man at the residence.
The victim's room, which adjoined the hallway, was searched, and
a brown attache case was found in a chair on the north side of the
room. In the case were numerous personal papers belonging to the
deceased and identifying him as GEORGE deMOHRENSCHILDT, a Professor at
Bishop College, in Dallas, Texas. Also found in the case was a two-
page personal affidavit which indicated it was written on March 11,
1977, in Brussels, Belgium, which made reference to his friendship
with LEE HARVEY OSWALD, who assassinated President John F. Kennedy, in
Dallas, Texas, on 22 November, 1963. Found in the deceased's pants
pocket was newspaper article from the March 20, 1977 edition of the
Dallas Morning News, which indicated that the deceased may possibly
have been involved in, or have knowledge of, some type of conspiracy
in the above-mentioned assassination. This, coupled with the fact
that an investigator from the U. S. House of Representatives Committee
on Assassinations had been at the residence earlier looking for the
victim, indicated to this writer that the death of this individual
could possibly be of major importance. Lt. Richard Sheet, was, thus,
notified by Sgt. Lee of the nature of this case; and he responded to
the scene with Det. Sgt. Ben Green, and Det. John Skebe to supervise
and assist in the investigation.
Based on documents found in the victim's attache case, it was
learned that the victim was born in Russia, on April 17, 1911. He was
educated in Europe and America and held a Doctorate Degree in
Economics. He was last employed as an Assistant Professor of foreign
languages at Bishop College, in Dallas, Texas. He was a world
traveler and apparently an unofficial advisor to several foreign
governments. The part of his life which arouses the most interest and
notoriety is his reputed friendship, in 1962 and 1963, with LEE HARVEY
OSWALD and his wife, MARINA OSWALD, prior to the assassination; and
there has been much reported speculation by government agencies and
the press that he had involvement in the assassination plot.
After interviewing all of the above individuals, the following
sequence of events leading up to the victim's death was determined.
It should be noted at the outset that the exact moment of death and
time sequences afterwards have been established by a taped recording
of a television show which was taking place in the room adjacent to
the hallway in which the victim met his demise. Further references to
that taped recording and details of it will be outlined in narrative
elsewhere in this report: The victim arrived in West Palm Beach,
Florida, on the evening of 16 March, 1977, from New York City, after
having returned from a business trip to Belgium. He arrived at the
Grey Hound bus station in that city and was met there by Mrs. Tilton
and Miss Loomis. His only baggage, apparently, was a green attache
case and a few articles of clothing. He was taken to Mrs. Tilton's
ocean-side home; where, he was reunited with his daughter, Alexandra.
From that time up until 29 March, 1977, the victim seemed to enjoy his
leisure and prepared for his up-coming meeting with a writer, named
EDWARD EPSTEIN, in Palm Beach, on 29 March, 1977. On that date, he
arose, at approximately 0720 hours, dressed, and went to the kitchen,
at 0730 hours; where, the cook, Miss Romanic, fed him a light
breakfast of toast and coffee. He then was seen taking a short walk
on the beach, then went for a short ride in his rented car, which he
had received from Mr. Epstein, after making brief contact with him on
the previous day in Palm Beach. He returned to the house, but he
stayed only for a short period of time, then departed for his
appointment with Mr. Epstein at the Breakers Hotel, in Palm Beach.
There he discussed an article which Mr. Epstein was writing and for
which the victim was to receive Four Thousand Dollar ($4,000.00) from
Reader's Digest, about the Kennedy assassination; but the discussion
at this first of what was expected to be several meetings centered
mainly on the victim's early life and war years. During this time,
between 1000 hours and 1100 hours, an investigator for the House
Committee on Assassinations, named GAETON FONZI, appeared at the
Tilton residence inquiring about the victim and his whereabouts. Mr.
Fonzi left after speaking with Alexandra deMohrenschildt and saying
that he would return at a later time to see her father.
The interview at the Breakers Hotel was terminated after noon,
and the victim promised to return later that day, at 1500 hours, to
continue the conversation. He returned to the Tilton residence and
ate a light lunch in the kitchen, at approximately 1245 hours. After
lunch, the victim's daughter informed him, in Spanish, apparently so
that the house maid and cook who were also present would not
understand, that investigator Fonzi found him and wished to speak to
him. The news apparently upset the victim, and he went upstairs to
his room after bidding good-bye to his daughter and her friend,
Katherine Loomis, who went shopping, at roughly 1330 hours.
Mrs. Tilton had left the house at noon and drove to a card-
playing appointment with several friends in Palm Beach, and she did
not see the victim at all on the day of his death. Prior to her
leaving, she instructed her maid, ANNA VIISOLA, to place her cassette
tape recorder near the television in her bedroom and record two of her
favorite day time serials, so that when she returned she could listen
to the tape recording and be able to follow the story line. This is
the tape recording referred to earlier in this narrative which was
helpful in establishing the time of death.
Prior to 1400 hours, Mrs. Viisola went to Mrs. Tilton's bedroom
on the second floor and was doing some housework when the victim came
out of his room and complained of hearing scratching noises and
suspected that a cat, of which there are none in the household, was
responsible for the noises. The maid searched the second floor
briefly, concluded that the victim was hearing things, and continued
with her work. Roughly at 1415 hours, that tape cassette ran out and
was switched over to side two by the maid, who then went downstairs,
leaving the victim in his room. He apparently left his room, walked
the short distance down the hallway to Mrs. Tilton's room, and removed
a double-barrel, .20-gauge shotgun from its resting place beside her
bed, along with two live .20-gauge shotgun shells form a night stand
which also was beside the bed. He then walked out of the bedroom,
turned to his left and entered a small hallway off the main hallway in
which there was a chair and a chest of drawers. The victim loaded the
weapon, sat in the chair, placed the barrel in his mouth, and pulled
the trigger, at 1421 hours, thus, discharging the weapon at an upward
angle through the roof of his mouth and into his brain. The shot went
unheard by Mrs. Viisola, who was working in the kitchen below, as well
as by Miss Romanic, who was sunning herself in the back yard; and by
the gardener, Coley Wimbley, who also was at the rear of the house in
the garden.
The victim's daughter and her friend returned to the Tilton
residence, at 1435 hours, from their brief shopping trip. They
entered the house, at 1437 hours, and Miss deMohrenschildt went
upstairs to give her father some toilet articles which she had
purchased for him. At 1439 hours, she discovered his body and
summoned the help of the rest of the household, who notified the
Manalapan Police Department.
This writer interviewed the house maid, White female, ANNA
VIISOLA (DOB: 07-08-17), who lives at 3000 Lake Osborne Drive, Lake
Worth, Florida (telephone 588-4228). She stated that on the date of
the incident she arrived at work, at approximately 1245 hours. At
that time, she found the victim seated at the kitchen table eating
lunch, which comprised of three pieces of toast and cup of coffee. At
that time, the victim's daughter was also present, and she conversed
with her father in Spanish, a language of which Mrs. Viisola has no
comprehension or fluency. The conversation appeared to upset the
victim, but she could not tell to what extent, due to the foreign
language used in the conversation.
At approximately 1330 hours, the victim went to his room and laid
on the bed and read a book. Mrs. Viisola has started taping a
television soap opera for Mrs. Tilton in her room and was performing
household chores on the second floor. During that time, she saw the
victim from time to time and spoke briefly to him about some shirts
she was washing for him and answered his question regarding whether
the "girls" were home, obviously referring to his daughter and her
friend; and he was described at that time as being quite polite and
calm. However, several minutes later, prior to 1400 hours, the victim
entered Mrs. Tilton's bedroom and questioned Mrs. Viisola about a
scratching sound which apparently annoyed him. He speculated that it
was a cat, which there are none in the Tilton residence, and he began
to pace up and down the long main hallway, calling for a cat.
Mrs. Viisola did not argue with him about the impossibility of
there being a cat in the house and went downstairs via the elevator
after turning the tape cassette to side two, at around 1415 hours. At
the time of the cat-scratching incident, Mrs. Viisola felt that the
victim was not behaving normally and was, in her own words, slightly
mad. Mrs. Viisola went to the kitchen, spoke with Miss Romanic there
and did not hear the gun discharge on the second floor. At roughly
1435 hours, the victim's daughter and her girlfriend returned from
their shopping trip, and Mrs. Viisolas was asked where the victim was.
She replied that he was upstairs and it was when Alexandra
deMohrenschildt went to her father's room that she discovered the body
and screamed for Mrs. Viisola.
During the time between when she last saw the victim alive and
the time his body was discovered, Mrs. Viisola did not see or hear
anything suspicious or out of the ordinary. She did not see any
strangers in or around the residence and did not have reason to
suspect that someone had entered the house without her knowing it (It
should be noted that all doors and windows are equipped with an alarm
system and if any door or window is opened, there is an audible beep
which is heard throughout the house.)
This writer next spoke with White female, LILLIAN ROMANIC (DOB:
09-15-21), who is the cook for Mrs. Tilton, and lives in a small room
at the south end of the residence, off the kitchen. She stated that
on the day of the incident, she arose, at around 0700 hours, dressed,
and went into the kitchen to begin breakfast. At 0730 hours, she fed
the victim his breakfast and saw him drive away in his rental car for
a few minutes and then return. He left for a short while after that
for his appointment in Palm Beach and returned some time after noon.
He ate a light lunch in the kitchen and she witnessed the conversation
between the victim and his daughter, referred to by Mrs. Viisola
above.
After serving lunch, Miss Romanic drove to Lantana, Florida, and
conducted some business at the U.S. Post Office there. She returned
home, encountered Anna Viisola in the kitchen, but spoke to her only
briefly, then went to her room, changed into her bathing suit and went
into the back yard to sun herself. It is estimated that during this
time is when the victim met his death; yet, Miss Romanic did not hear
the shot and did not know that anything had happened until later when
the victim was discovered by his daughter. Miss Romanic did not
observe any strangers in the area during this time, and she did not
have reason to believe that there was any suspicious or unusual
activity in the house.
This writer interviewed Negro male, COLEY WIMBLEY (DOB: 03-25-
00), who is a live-in maintenance man for Mrs. Tilton, who lives in a
small apartment on the south side of the detached garage. According
to him, on the day of the victim's death, he was working outside
tending to gardening chores. Early in the morning, the victim was
observed walking from the house, crossing State Road A1A and going for
a short walk on the beach along the Atlantic Ocean.
He returned, got into his rental car and drove away briefly and
then returned. Mr. Wimbley did not see the victim drive away the
second time for his Palm Beach appointment and did not see him return.
During the time that the shot was fired, Mr. Wimbley was at the back
porch, watering flowers and did not hear the gun discharge. He
admitted to having poor hearing, but he is assisted by a hearing aid,
which he said he was wearing on that date. This writer spoke in a
normal, conversational tone of voice, and Mr. Wimbley did not strain
to hear or ask that anything be repeated, which leads this writer to
believe that the gunshot was not audible from where Mr. Wimbley was
working, even by someone with good, uncorrected hearing. He was asked
if he had seen any strangers around the house prior to the incident,
and he replied that he had been working all around the exterior of the
residence on that day, and he did not see anyone approach the house.
This writer interviewed DIANNE and LAURIE TISDALE, who live at
1720 South Ocean Boulevard, in Manalapan, Florida, but who were
working in an apartment above the garage at the Tilton residence, at
the time of the incident. They were painting and repairing the
apartment, so that Laurie Tisdale could eventually move into it.
Neither of them stated that they heard a gunshot or were suspicious
that anything strange or unusual had occurred in the main house. They
left the apartment to perform an errand, at approximately 4130 hours
[sic], and returned, at 1500 hours, to continue their labors.
Mrs. Nancy Tilton, wife of C.E. Tilton, III, who was away at
their home in Arizona at the time of this incident, was interviewed by
this writer. From her it was learned that the victim's first wife was
married to her cousin and that shortly after his daughter, Alexandra,
was born, Mrs. Tilton took her to raise as her daughter, due to the
fact that the victim's wife had abandoned her at a young age; and Miss
deMohrenschildt has lived with Mrs. Tilton off and on all her life,
and to this day they refer to one another as mother and daughter. She
stated that she has enjoyed the company of Miss deMohrenschildt and
her girlfriend, Katherine Loomis, since they arrived there from Mexico
City, on 15 December, 1976. The victim arrived 16 March, 1977, and
Mrs. Tilton and Miss Loomis drove to the Grey Hound Bus station, in
West Palm Beach to pick him up and transport him to her residence.
During his stay, he discussed previous attempts at suicide while he
was in the Dallas area, in 1976, and expressed feelings of persecution
from unspecified Jewish elements, the Federal government and
blackmailed by an attorney in Dallas, Texas; but she knew that he was
suffering from mental illness and depression and she did not lend
credence to his fears.
On 29, March, 1977, the day of the victim's death, Mrs. Tilton
rose from bed, after the victim had departed for his appointment in
Palm Beach, and did not have the opportunity to speak with him, on
that date. She left at noon for a card-playing appointment at the
home of a friend, MRS. RICHARD KNIGHT, who lives at 225 Sea Breeze
Avenue, and arrived at, roughly 1230 hours. She received a telephone
call from a family friend, ATTORNEY WILLIAM SPROTT, of Palm Beach, at
approximately 1500 hours, or sometime thereafter, advising her of what
had happened and asked her to return home as soon as possible. She
could provide no personal speculation about what had driven the victim
to his unstable mental condition, but thought that it was not one
incident, but the combination of many years of depression and personal
fears (most of which were imagined) which brought him to that state.
This writer spoke with the victim's daughter, ALEXANDRA
deMOHRENSCHILDT (DOB: 12-25-43), who lives at 158 Villa Longine, Mex5
DF, Mexico City, Mexico. She stated that after her father's arrival
at the Tilton residence, on 16 March, 1977, she talked with him at
length and found him to be deeply disturbed about certain matters and
had expressed a desire to commit suicide. At around 1000 hours, on
the day of her father's death, Miss deMohrenschildt answered a knock
at the door and encountered Mr. Gaeton Fonzi, who identified himself
as a Staff Investigator for the House Committee on Assassinations. He
wished to speak with the victim but learned that he was away at a
meeting. Mr. Fonzi stated that he would call later in the day, left
his business card and departed. When the victim returned home, Miss
deMohrenschildt told him over lunch in the kitchen of the
investigator's presence there and of his desire to talk to him. Miss
deMohrenschildt felt that the message was of a personal nature and
related it in Spanish to her father, so that the maid and cook who
were also present in the room would not comprehend what was being
said. The news seemed to upset the victim, but his daughter did not
think that his reaction was overly fearful or dramatic.
After lunch, Miss deMohrenschildt and her friend, Miss Loomis,
went shopping in Boynton Beach and purchased several toilet articles
for her father, as well as things for herself. When she returned
home, at approximately 1435 hours, she entered the house by the rear
kitchen door and inquired of Anna Viisola where her father was. The
response that she received was that he was last seen in his room
upstairs. Miss deMohrenschildt walked to the second floor, entered
her father's room, and placed the bag on a dresser against the north
wall. She then looked to her left and saw her father bent over in the
hallway chair with a pool of blood and shotgun at his feet. She
screamed for Anna and alerted the household to what had happened.
Miss deMohrenschildt stated that her father's relationship with
Presidential assassin, LEE HARVEY OSWALD, was one of coincidence,
rather than friendship. They happened to meet in Dallas, Texas, in
1962, or 1963, as part of a small community of Russian people in that
area. She denied that her father participated in the assassination of
President Kennedy and stated that the has been shadowed with that
suspicion since the murder. This, along with other personal problems,
disturbed the victim to the point where he made several attempts to
take his life, in 1976, and was committed briefly to a mental
institution in Texas.
White female, KATHERINE LOOMIS (DOB: 11-17-41), who lives in
Mexico City with the victim's daughter, stated that when she
encountered the deceased, on 16 March, 1977, he was in a depressed
state and often spoke of his persecution at the hands of the Jews, but
he was never specific; and she attributed it to his mental condition.
On the day of his demise, the victim was last seen alive by Miss
Loomis, at approximately 1330 hours, when she and Miss deMohrenschildt
left to go shopping. When they returned at approximately 1435 hours,
they stopped Coley Wimbley and asked him to carry a case of soda pop,
which was in the car trunk, into the house. Miss Loomis entered via
the rear kitchen door with Mr. Wimbley, followed a minute later by
Miss deMohrenschildt. Miss Loomis heard the victim's daughter ask
where her father was and saw her go upstairs. She heard Miss
deMohrenschildt screaming and learned that the victim was dead.
At 1900 hours, this writer went to Room #4179, at the Breakers
Hotel, in Palm Beach, and contacted MR. EDWARD J. EPSTEIN, the writer
with whom the victim had met earlier in the day. Mr. Epstein has
written a book, called INQUEST, on the Kennedy assassination, as well
as several articles on the topic for leading periodicals. Mr. Epstein
received a request from the deceased several months ago that they
arrange an interview about his friendship with Lee Harvey Oswald, and
Mr. Epstein agreed, but every time an appointment was made to meet,
the victim would break it for one reason or another. The meeting was
finally set up by the victim for Mr. Epstein to come to The Breakers
in Palm Beach and interview him, for which the victim had negotiated a
Four Thousand dollar ($4,000.00) fee.
On 28 March, 1977, the victim went to The Breakers Hotel and
spoke with Mr. Epstein briefly. Mr. Epstein used his American Express
Credit Card Number 3714-614657-01006 to rent the victim a car at the
Hertz rental agency to allow the victim ease of transportation in
getting to and from their meetings. The vehicle, a blue Ford LTD
sedan, Florida license 1E-67209, was driven home by the victim that
day and was used by him the next morning to drive to his first
appointment. At that first interview, Mr. Epstein basically covered
the victim's early life and did not learn very much about his time in
Dallas in the early 1960s and his relationship with Lee Harvey Oswald.
Mr. Epstein did say that his research uncovered a man named, SAM
BALLIN, of Dallas, Texas, who had reportedly received a letter from
the victim, in which the victim stated that he would commit suicide if
Epstein did not believe his story. When asked to elaborate on what he
thought might have been meant by "his story", Mr. Epstein replied that
the took it to mean his relationship with Oswald, the Jewish Mafia,
FBI harassment and other of his fears, either real or imagined. Mr.
Epstein felt that the victim was being deceptive in many of his
answers to questions put to him, but he did not feel that the victim
was under stress and did not seem to mentally deranged, in any way.
At this point, this writer received word that Palm Beach County
State Attorney, David Bludworth, wished to speak to all those who had
knowledge of the deceased, and Mr. Epstein was transported to the Palm
Beach County Courthouse; where, he was questioned by Mr. Bludworth in
the presence of this writer and Lt. Richard Sheets, and Assistant
State Attorney, Carl Harper. Also questioned on this night were Mrs.
Tilton, Miss deMohrenschildt, with their attorney present, Mr. William
Sprott. The tape recording of these conversations was turned over to
Lt. Sheets by Mr. Bludworth to be transcribed and retained as a part
of this investigation.
At 2315 hours, on 29 March, 1977, this writer made contact with
the victim's wife, MRS. JEANNE deMOHRENSCHILDT, in California (Area
Code 213-363-6889), and advised her of her husband's demise; a fact
which she had already been made aware of by several newsmen who had
telephoned her seeking a story. She stated that she has been married
to the victim for the past twenty-one years and noted that over the
past several years he has been acting in an "insane manner". He
constantly was in fear of what he termed the "Jewish Mafia" and the
FBI, but she felt that his fears were groundless. She, personally, in
all her years of marriage to the victim, had never witnessed anything
which would lend credence to any of her husband's fears. On the 9
November, 1976, Mrs. deMohrenschildt signed commitment papers in
Dallas County, Texas, to have her husband placed in a mental home for
treatment. In the affidavit she stated that the victim suffered from
depression, heard voices, saw visions and believed that the FBI and
the Jewish Mafia were persecuting him. She noted that he was, at
times, physically violent and has beaten her to the point that several
of her ribs were broken and several teeth damaged. She went on to say
in the affidavit that the victim had attempted suicide four times in
1976 by slashing his wrists, trying to drown himself in the bath tub,
and twice taking overdoses of medicine. The victim was confined in a
state mental institution for only three months as a result of Mrs.
deMohrenschildt's efforts and was judged to be harmless to himself and
to others and was released.
It should be noted that the victim's body was turned over to
Scobee-Combs Funeral Home, in Boynton Beach, per the request of his
daughter, who followed the recommendation of Mrs. Tilton. The body
was transported to the Bethesda Memorial Hospital morgue; where, on 30
March, 1977, at 1300 hours, an autopsy was performed by Palm Beach
County, Florida, Medical Examiner Dr. Gabino Cuevas, and witnessed by
Detective Gary T. Green. After his post mortem examination was
complete, he concluded that the victim died as a result of a gunshot
wound to the brain, which was indicative of suicide. (For full
details, refer to Det. Green's supplementary report to this
investigation).
On 30 March, 1977, this writer went to WPTV television station,
in West Palm Beach, florida, in an attempt to ascertain the exact time
of death, based on the television program which was being recorded at
the Tilton home. The television show was "The Doctors", day time
serial which was being broadcasted from New York City by the NBC
Television Network, from 1400 hours to 1500 hours, on that day. Side
number two of the tape cassette begins in the middle of a Betty
Crocker frosting mix commercial and then leads into a General Mills
Golden Gram commercial, which according to a computer read-out from
NBC in New York began at 2:19 and 11 seconds. Two other commercials
follow and they end at 2:20 and 40 seconds. Twenty-three seconds
later the shotgun blast, which took the victim's life, can be heard
over the television show, thus, establishing the time of death at
2:21.03 P.M. EST (Eastern Standard Time).
From interviews with the principals in this case, and after
reviewing the non-television-related sounds on the tape cassette, the
following outline of activities and times was assembled; (it will be
recalled that the Rawlins Alarm System installed in the Tilton
residence produces an audible beep when the doors or windows are
opened). The first beep is explained as being Miss Romanic, the cook,
walking out the back door to sun herself for a while in the back yard.
At 2:21.03 P.M, the gunshot is audible and almost immediately
something is heard falling to the floor, believed to be the shotgun
falling, or catapulted by the blast, to the floor. No other sounds
are heard until 2:23 P.M., when the door beeper again sounds, this
time it is Mrs. Viisola taking a bag of garbage out the rear door and
disposing of it in a trash can immediately to the right (south) of the
door. At 2:26 P.M., the rear door beeps again and is Miss Romanic
coming in from the back yard.
No sounds, other than the t.v. show, are heard until 2:37 P.M.,
when the door beeper is heard when Miss Loomis and Coley Wimbley enter
the house via the back door after the shopping trip. Another beep is
heard a short time after that, at 2:38 P.M., which is the victim's
daughter entering the rear door.
At 2:39 P.M., a woman's voice apparently coming form the end of
the upstairs hallway can be clearly heard, "Hey, where is he?" and is
known to be Miss deMohrenschildt. Twenty seconds later the shrieks of
Miss deMohrenschildt can be heard as she discovers the body of her
father and is taken downstairs.
At 2:46 P.M., the sound of a siren nearing the Tilton residence
can be heard, thus, marking the arrival of the Manalapan police units.
This writers investigation has failed to produce any evidence
which would tend to indicate that the victim met his death by any
means other than by his own hand. All of the facts indicate that he
was a disturbed man, who, at the time of his death, was suffering from
the same overwhelming mental pressures which must have surely prompted
his four prior suicide attempts, in Texas, in 1976. This death
investigation is, therefore, declared to be a suicide and is hereby
EXCEPTIONALLY CLEARED.
THIS CASE IS EXCEPTIONALLY CLEARED.
This report transcribed from tape: On 4 April, 1977 by Linda E.
Albritton.
Reporting Deputy(writer): Det. Thomas Neighbors/lea
Deputy No. 5104
Case Number: 77-11753
Date: 3-29-77
SUPPLEMENTARY REPORT ON GEORGE deMOHRENSCHILDT
Reporting Deputy: Det. John M. Skebe/lea
On 3-29-77, the undersigned investigator, at the request of Det.
Sgt. Louie Lee, responded to 1780 South Ocean Boulevard, for the
purpose of assisting investigators during the investigation of the
shooting death of the above victim.
Upon arrival, contact was made with Det. Lt. Sheets and Det. Sgt.
Louie Lee. Having reported to the above officers, it was determined
that, at the earliest possible convenience, this investigator would
assist with Statements, in reference to the above investigation.
This investigator entered the residence and responded to the
upstairs area of the house involving the crime scene area.
Observation was made of a White male, sitting in a chair surrounded by
a pool of blood. Also, a shotgun was observed in close proximity to
the body. This investigator assisted briefly by locating individuals,
delivering messages, and acting generally as an observer during this
portion of the investigation.
After removal of the body, this investigator was assigned to
respond to the Delray Beach Sub-station, pickup recording equipment,
and return to the residence at 1780 South Ocean Boulevard, and there
obtain statements from the upstairs chamber maid and the cook. This
was done, and, on return to the residence, interviews were started.
At this point, contact was made with Lt. Bondick, Acting Captain of
the Palm Beach County Sheriff's Office Delray Beach Sub-station, who
advised that the taped statements of the employees were to be held for
a short period of time. At this point, this investigator was
instructed to respond to the Palm Beach County Courthouse, Office of
the State Attorney, Mr. David Bludworth, with the White female, known
as the daughter, ALEXANDRA DONNA deMOHRENSCHILDT, for the purpose of
interview by investigators of the State Attorney's Office and the Palm
Beach County Sheriff's Office. At this time, this investigator
followed ALEXANDRA deMOHRENSCHILDT, as well as MRS. TILTON and an
attorney to the Palm Beach county courthouse. While at the
courthouse, this investigator maintained a position outside the
interview room, answering phone calls and assisting in any other way
possible. Upon conclusion of the interviews by the State Attorney's
Office, incoordination with the Sheriff's Office, this investigator
accompanied Det. Lt. Sheets, Det Sgt. Louie Lee, and Det. Tom
Neighbors to the Palm Beach County Sheriff's Office Central Office.
While at the Central Office, this investigator assisted Det. Sgt. Lee
in separating items from the brief case being held in the possession
of Lt. Sheets. Certain items of evidence marked earlier by Lt. Sheets
were placed in numerical order; while other items were checked. Upon
completion of this basic inventory, copies were make for investigative
purposes.
This investigator then secured from the investigation for the
evening. On the morning of 3-30-77, this investigator returned to
1780 South Ocean Boulevard, Manalapan, Florida; where, taped
interviews were obtained from ANNA VIISOLA, DOB: 07-08-17, and LILLIAN
ROMANIC, DOB: 09-15-21.
On 3-31-77, this investigator met with investigators at the Palm
Beach County Sheriff's Office Central Division; where, the
investigation was to be critiqued. At this point, it was determined
that this investigator would obtain a telephone toll subpoena in
reference to the above investigation for the time period of
approximately 10 March, 1977, thru 30 March, 1077, for the residence
telephone locate at 1780 South Ocean Boulevard, Manalapan, Florida,
identified as the Tilton residence, at 582-4180. The subpoena was
obtained from the State Attorney's Office and served on Southern Bell
Telephone Company, on 3-31-77. The tolls will be ready tentatively
during the first week of April, 1977.
Also, the undersigned investigator responded to the Palm Beach
County Sheriff's Office Communications Division; where, a cassette
tape recording made from the dictaphone 40000 recording equipment, in
regards to a call made to the Department by an anonymous caller. This
tape will be held for the investigation.
Also, interviews were conducted at 1215 North Lake Way, Palm
Beach, Florida; at which time, contact was made with a MR. GABRIEL
ALLEN. It is noted for the official records that nothing of any
substance was obtained from the interview with Mr. Allen. As of the
evening of 3-31-77, the undersigned investigator has not additional
information in regards to this case, other than that received through
the reporting process of other detectives assigned various parts of
the investigation. This report will be added as a supplemental to the
existing reports.
CRIME SCENE REPORT
Death Investigation
Crime 9545
Grid Code # 12500
Date 3-29-77, Tuesday
Case Number #77-11753
Location of Crime--1780 South Ocean Boulevard, Manalapan
Florida
Victim--George deMohrenschildt
Investigator--Det. Gary T. Green/lea
At 1500 hours, on Tuesday, March 29, 1977, writer was requested
by Det. Sgt. Louie Lee to proceed to 1780 South Ocean Boulevard, in
Manalapan, Florida, for the purpose of assisting with the
investigation of possible suicide.
Upon arrival at 1520 hours, the weather was noted to be clear and
sunny with the temperature approximately 82 degrees. Writer met with
Chief Meadows and Officer McBride of the Manalapan Police Department,
who both briefed writer of facts pertaining to this investigation,
stating that a guest in the home of MRS. NANCY TILTON had been found
dead in the sitting room.
SCENE; The scene where the body was located was in a sitting room
on the second floor and the south end of this three-story, wood-frame
residence, which is situated on the west side of South Ocean
Boulevard. The front faces the east; however, the entrance mainly
used is at the rear, or on the west side.
A hallway runs through the middle of the second floor, separating
bedrooms and other rooms on this floor. The sitting room already
mentioned is on the west side of the hallway. The only room south of
this room is a study and to the north is a bedroom, which has an
entrance form this sitting room and another entrance from the hallway.
The bedroom of Mrs. Tilton is in the southeastern most corner of the
home on the second floor. Two other bedrooms are located on the north
end of the residence.
The room in which the body was located measured 7 feet from north
to south, and 12 feet 7 inches from east to west. Contents of the
room consisted only of a chest-of-drawers against the north wall, a
book-case against the east wall, and a stuffed armed chair in the
southwest corner, facing in a northeasterly direction. In this chair
the body of a White male was seated on the front edge of the cushioned
seat, bent forward and leaning to the left. Both arms were between
the legs; the left arm was crossed over in front of the body, and the
elbow was resting of the left knee; and the right arm was hanging
straight down and the hand touching the floor. The right leg was
outstretched, and the right foot was on a small throw rug. The left
leg was bent slightly at the knee and the upper portion of a double-
barrel shotgun was resting on the top of the left foot. The butt of
the weapon was in a northwesterly direction.
The throw rug already mentioned was rumpled slightly, in the area
of the victim's feet. The deceased was clothed in a pair of tan
slacks and a blue, turtle-neck sweater, and black socks. A watch was
on the left wrist.
A large quantity of blood was on the floor below the area of the
victim's head. Also, blood was noted on the pants leg of the
deceased, the front and left side of the skirt of the chair, and
spattering of blood were noted on the lower outside door frame to the
bathroom immediately west of the body and on the lower portion of the
west wall, between the bathroom and the bedroom, and on the lower legs
of the chest-of-drawers and on the north wall and door frame of the
doorway to the bedroom.
The weapon, when examined, was found to be a .20-gauge Ithaca
double-barrel shotgun, Serial Number 6114893. The right chamber
contained an empty Western Number 9 shot .20-gauge shotgun shell. The
left chamber contained a live shotgun shell of Number 9 shot, also
made by Western. The weapon measured forty-four-and-one-half
inches(441/2") in length and twenty-eight inches (28") from the tip of
the barrel to the trigger. This weapon was later processed for the
presence of latent fingerprints; however, none were developed, largely
due to the heavy concentration of blood on the barrel and stock of the
weapon.
Further, writer was advised by Mrs. Tilton that this shotgun was
hers and that she kept the same next to her bed and extra shells in a
night stand also next to her bed. In this night stand writer
collected a box containing twenty-one shotgun shells, all of which
were Western AA Number 9 shot.
After photographs were taken of the body from all directions, the
deceased was placed in an upright position for examination of any
wounds. Once this was done, writer observed a blackening of both eyes
and blood was coming from the mouth, nose, and ear. No signs of
injury were noted on the face or head; however, the jaw appeared to be
fractured, and the left side of the face was sunken, indicating that
the wound was possibly in the mouth.
EXAMINATIONS: At 1655 hours, Det. Sgt. Ben Green, Supervisory of
the Crime Scene Unit, arrived at the scene. At which time, he
assisted writer in photographing the other rooms of the second floor
of this residence, and with the processing for fingerprints in the
room in which the deceased was found and the bedroom he had been using
since his arrival in the Tilton home. Said bedroom is located north
of the sitting room, and it consisted of a double bed with head
against the east wall and two night stands on each side of the bed.
The bed was unmade, and on top of the sheets was a hard-back edition
of The Sensuous Woman and a pair of reading glasses. A desk was
against the north wall; a vanity was against the west wall; and a
chest-of-drawers was against the south wall. A window air conditioner
was in the south window of the west wall, and the other window to the
north of the window containing the air conditioner was closed.
A drab olive green attache case containing personal papers
belonging to the deceased was found on a chair in this bedroom. This
was turned over to Lt. Sheets upon his arrival at the scene and later
returned to writer, on 31 March, 1977, by Lt. Sheets. For a list of
contents of this attache case, see the attached property receipt and
inventory.
Found in the right front pants pocket of the deceased was Two
Hundred and seventy-nine dollars and seventy cents ($279.70) in U.S.
Coins and Currency. In the left front pocket was a Christian Dior
pouch and a plastic check folder, which contained miscellaneous
personal papers. Also in this pocket was a clipping of a front-page
headline from the Dallas Morning News, dated Sunday, March 20, 1977,
with the headline reading: "MENTAL ILLS OF OSWALD CONFIDANT TOLD."
At 1810 hours, the body was removed from the scene by Mike Bowden
and Don Combs of Scobee-Combs Funeral Home and transported to Bethesda
Memorial Hospital, in Boynton Beach, for further examinations.
At 1830 hours, writer proceeded with further examinations of the
deceased at the Bethesda Hospital morgue. Additional photographs were
taken of the victim, the clothing collected, and the hands were
swabbed for the possibility of obtaining gunshot residue through
neutron activation analysis. The body was fingerprinted, and palm
prints were obtained along with pubic and head hair samples. The only
wound on the body was in the left side of the roof of the mouth. The
shotgun at the scene, as already mentioned, measured forty-four inches
in length, and twenty-eight inches for the tip of the barrel to the
trigger. From the center of the victim's lip to the tip of the right
thumb measured thirty-three inches, and to the tip of the index finger
measured thirty-five inches.
AUTOPSY: On Wednesday, 30 March, 1977, at 0830 hours, writer
spoke with Dr. Cuevas, Assistant Medical Examiner, at Bethesda
Hospital; and facts pertaining to this investigation were related;
and, at this time, an autopsy was scheduled with authorization having
been obtained from David Bludworth, State Attorney of Palm Beach
County, Florida. At 1400 hours, the autopsy was begun on the
deceased. Prior to the beginning, however, x-rays were taken by x-ray
technicians from the radiology department of Bethesda Hospital.
During the course of this examination by Dr. Cuevas, writer was
present and received small pieces of lead as they were collected from
the brain and skull area. Also recovered was the plastic wadding from
the shotgun shell. Further, blood and urine samples were obtained by
Dr. Cuevas, and these were transported to the Crime Laboratory by this
investigator, on 31 March, 1977. Dr. Cuevas stated that the wound
was, in fact, in the left side of the upper maxilla and that the
pellets from the shotgun shell traveled upward front to back and right
to left.
On 31 March, 1977, writer learned from Mrs. Tilton, owner of the
residence where the victim was found, of the alarm system, which is
wired through the residence, located at 1780 South Ocean Boulevard,
Manalapan, Florida. Mrs. Tilton stated that at night or while no one
is at the residence the alarm system is activated so if anyone breaks
or enters the doors or windows on the alarm system, an audible alarm
will be activated in the residence, and the Rawlins Protective Service
Company is notified who, in turn, notifies the Manalapan Police
Department. When there is someone present in the home, the system is
set so when a window or door is opened a high-pitched beep is made and
is heard in Mrs. Tilton's bedroom and in the downstairs's kitchen.
Mrs. Tilton went on to state that the third floor and the windows on
the south side second floor are not on the alarm system.
EVIDENCE: Photographs taken of the scene of the body and during
the autopsy will be on file with this agency. The following is a list
of property collected and is pertinent to this investigation:
1. Olive green attache case with miscellaneous personal items and
papers (See attached property receipts)
2. Paper items from pants pockets ( See attached property
receipts)
3. Three Hundred seventy-nine dollars and seventy cents in US
coins and currency
4. A pair of brown-framed reading glasses
5. A man's wrist watch
6. Clothing of the deceased
7. .20-gauge Ithaca double-barrel shotgun, Serial Number 6114893.
7.(A) Empty .20-gauge Western Number 9 shot shotgun shell
7.(
Live .20-gauge Western Number 9 shot shotgun shell8. A box of Western AA .20-gauge Number shot shotgun shells
9. Pellets removed from the victim
10. Plastic wadding removed from victim
11. Neutron activation swabs from the victim's hands
All of these items mentioned above will be in the custody of this
officer until further notice.
This report transcribed from tape: 5 April, 1977, By Linda E.
Albritton
Reporting Deputy is Det. Gary T. Green/lea
CRIME SCENE REPORT
Case 77-11753
Article by Sgt. B. Green
On Tuesday 29 March 1977 at 1625 hours, this officer received a
telephonic request at my home from Lieutenant Sheets to proceed to the
above location and assist with the investigation of a death at that
location.
Upon my arrival at the above locatio, this officer met with
Lieutenant Sheets, Detective Gary Green, Sergeant Lee, Detectives
Neighbors and Skebe. Also on the scene was Chief Meadows of the
Manalapan Police Department.
The scene of the death occurred in a three-story wood dwelling
which is situated on the west side of A!A, with the rear of the
dwelling adjoining the intracoastal waterway.
The room where the death actually occurred was located on the
second floor, in a chair which was situated in the southwest corner of
a hallway, or drawing room, leading from the victim's bedroom to the
bathroom.
Upon entering this room, this officer observed the body of the
deceased situated in the aforementioned chair; also noted on the floor
at the victim's foot was a shotgun and a large amount of red substance
appearing to be blood. This officer further noted blood to be located
on the bathroom wall and the wall leading to the deceased's bedroom.
See Detective Gary Green's report for details of this Crime
Scene, as he is the primary crime scene investigator, and the
undersigned was on the scene only to assist Detective Green and to
supervise the crime scene investigation.
This officer assisted Detective Green by photographing all of the
rooms on the second floor of the dwelling, with the exception of the
area where the deceased was, and the deceased's bedroom. These
photographs were taken by Detective Gary Green.
This officer further examined each of the windows and noted them
to being a locked position, either the screen or the window itself.
Upon examining Mrs. Tilton's room, this officer observed three
cassette tapes. These tapes were collected by this officer and
submitted to Detective Gary Green.
Also removed from the deceased's bedroom were two hardback books.
These books were submitted to Detective Green.
This officer further assisted Detective Gary Green by processing
the are around the body for latent fingerprints, and also examining
and processing the room where the deceased had been living. Latent
fingerprints which were developed by this officer were submitted to
Detective Green.
In addition to photographing the rooms on the second floor of the
residence, this officer further photographed the entire exterior of
the residence, and on Wednesday 30 March 1977, this officer took
aerial photographs of the dwelling, and surrounding area.
Further, upon completion of my examination of the scene on 29
March 1977, this officer proceeded to Bethesda Hospital, where I met
with Detective Green, who had at this time, almost completed his
examination of the body at the morgue. This officer did assist
Detective Green with the measurements of the victim's arm length.
This concludes this investigator's investigation of this case as
of this date.
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Did you notice that the body was cremated? Did you notice that, despite
him supposedly sticking the gun INTO his mouth and FIRING, there was no
exit wound from a shot?
This is a very important document.
--
Lisa Pease
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Look familiar?
Greg,
Well, I can explain "the lean" of the guy on the left. He was jogging forward and came to an abrupt halt. This frame catches him in the action of halting. But I can't explain "the lean" of "Oswald" in one of the backyard photos...
--Tommy
Tom the photographer was Altgens...b
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Tommy , I have some of Jack White's work on the man with the sign.that you may be interested in....I hope he is getting much better and can rejoin us soon..b
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an older link for interest.....of those who have not the book.........b......
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Wishing you all the best keep a chin up attitude, it helps much...take care best b
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Thank you Barry for all your time and effort to aid all, in their searches, most appreciated....Merry Seasons , take care...b
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if the same Potts, he was a Detective, hopefully this will copy for you...best b..he was involved in the search at Beckley..nope this is Walter Potts, sorry will look further..
He was Homicide Detective and searched Oswald's room at 1026 N. Beckley =
on the afternoon of 11/22/63.
Walter E. Potts =20
Potts, Walter E. Born April 28, 1922, passed away January 7, 2009. =
Mr Potts served in law enforcement for the city of Dallas for 26 years =
and Dallas County Sheriff's Department for 14 years. He graduated from =
Sam Houston State, was a long-time member of Buckner Terrace Baptist =
Church, and was a veteran of World War II. He is survived by his wife of =
63 years, Ruth Alice Potts; sons, Richard, Steve, and Stanley; =
daughter-in-law, Marcella. A Memorial Service will be held, 10:00 AM, =
Friday, January 9, 2009, Grove Hill Funeral Home Chapel.=20
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Beckley on the afternoon of 11/22/63.<BR><BR></DIV>
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Some Texas School Book Depository Employees - part 1 (Extended English Version.......witnesses tsbd fwiw....part 1...b
part 2...........
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i'm thinking this work by Doug, perhaps got overlooked.thanks..b
http://insidethearrb.livejournal.com/3251.html Studying Zapruder Film Anomalies: Clarifying the Record...by....Doug Horne
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thank you the Duncan..b
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wiegman frame.smoke..b
smoke gif by bill miller....b
ps i think this clip also goes with the gif, though not positive, but it decribes and gives information re the wind in Dealey Plaza and elsewhere...b
The picture you posted was one I had used to place those arrows on it. =
The wind direction was a general reference. As someone who claims to =
have been to the plaza - you must know that its like a huge bowl and the =
the wind gust and swirls. This must have been apparent when you watch =
the Zapruder film and see that Moorman's coat is hanging down and then =
suddenly blows open as the limo is moving past her.
As has been said several times now - Holland said the smoke came out =
through the two trees. Those would be the Hudson tree and the one just =
west of it. The fence and the trees would help work as a wind break ... =
common sense should give us that much of a clue for the smoke cloud was =
obviously still holding together enough that several witnesses both east =
and west of it had seen it. But once it drifted out past the protection =
of the trees it would have been swept up in the air flow and dissipated =
within a second or two depending on the wind gust level at that =
particular moment.=20
For further experience in how gun-smoke reacts to air flow - go to a =
trap shoot one night and watch the smoke under the lights. Once the =
smoke is seen under the light where it is then better illuminated, then =
watching how it dissipates can be quite educational. Then you can watch =
the little parts of it break up and how it will turn and spiral when the =
air starts to move it. Also, it should be said that gun-smoke is heavier =
than smoke lets say made by a fire. smoke by a fire 1: quickly rises =
because it hotter and lighter. Others who have been to shooting ranges =
have mirrored the same types of observations. More information coming =
from they may still be found in Lancer's archives.=20
there is also an older thread here on the forum........http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=9554Modified=200B8D1BEB68C701EE
http://educationforu...B8D1BEB68C701EE
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here is another gif showing the smoke...b
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wiegman frame.smoke..b
smoke gif by bill miller....b
ps i think this clip also goes with the gif, though not positive, but it decribes and gives information re the wind in Dealey Plaza and elsewhere...b
The picture you posted was one I had used to place those arrows on it. =
The wind direction was a general reference. As someone who claims to =
have been to the plaza - you must know that its like a huge bowl and the =
the wind gust and swirls. This must have been apparent when you watch =
the Zapruder film and see that Moorman's coat is hanging down and then =
suddenly blows open as the limo is moving past her.
As has been said several times now - Holland said the smoke came out =
through the two trees. Those would be the Hudson tree and the one just =
west of it. The fence and the trees would help work as a wind break ... =
common sense should give us that much of a clue for the smoke cloud was =
obviously still holding together enough that several witnesses both east =
and west of it had seen it. But once it drifted out past the protection =
of the trees it would have been swept up in the air flow and dissipated =
within a second or two depending on the wind gust level at that =
particular moment.=20
For further experience in how gun-smoke reacts to air flow - go to a =
trap shoot one night and watch the smoke under the lights. Once the =
smoke is seen under the light where it is then better illuminated, then =
watching how it dissipates can be quite educational. Then you can watch =
the little parts of it break up and how it will turn and spiral when the =
air starts to move it. Also, it should be said that gun-smoke is heavier =
than smoke lets say made by a fire. smoke by a fire 1: quickly rises =
because it hotter and lighter. Others who have been to shooting ranges =
have mirrored the same types of observations. More information coming =
from they may still be found in Lancer's archives.=20
there is also an older thread here on the forum........http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=9554Modified=200B8D1BEB68C701EE
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=9554Modified=200B8D1BEB68C701EE
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Martin, was he beside a car.or near the train area ??...b..
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DITTO........Don, just a thought, but it has seemed to me at times, when posts are made invisible, that it seems to bother
members more than any other action taken, talking i hate to say, gets you no where, imo...why, because in the first place any who are guilty will never admit it, as you said like children, pointing the finger.....best to you and the other mods, for the important but terrible job that lays on their shoulders, and the reason,that i would not accept the offer of being one..it takes the patience of Jobe, and that i believe, i lost some years back, .again, thanks for the forum John...best b