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Peter,
I wanted to check Blaine on this issue of narcissistic personality disorder and located a Fox interview with Blaine and Clint Hill.
Listen to Clint Hill's recounting of the shooting. He fails to mention the missed shot that fragmented aand struck/nicked James Tague.
These guys are just awful. They have no idea what happened.
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This explains why the British wanted America to become more internationalist than it was. They wanted to use America as a tool to expand British influence
This is called "The Special Relationship".
Good job Steve.
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If the Inter Alpha Group is not already bankrupt there would be no need to sacrifice the Irish population to brutal austerity.
Thousands Protest Against Irish Bailout
Henry McDonald - Dublin
More than 100,000 Irish citizens took to the streets of Dublin today to protest against the international bailout and four years of austerity.
http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2010/11/27
PS- 100,000 Irish citizens, not bad for a country of less than 5 million.
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Tell you whst Terry, if old Lydon is correct, Santander will be a bust flush within a twelve month. If that happens I'll pay a Hundred pounds into any charity of your choise, if not, you do the same. I'll keep this one bookmarked.
http://www.businessinsider.com/91-billion-banco-santander-is-spiraling-lower-again-today-2010-11
Are we take it based on this post that you've accepted Steve's proposal? If so you have less than 3 months for Santander to go bust. But then again anyone who's been here long enough knows you don't pay your bets even when you have overtly made them.
I wouldnt worry about any bet, the entire system is bankrupt.
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Tell you whst Terry, if old Lydon is correct, Santander will be a bust flush within a twelve month. If that happens I'll pay a Hundred pounds into any charity of your choise, if not, you do the same. I'll keep this one bookmarked.
http://www.businessinsider.com/91-billion-banco-santander-is-spiraling-lower-again-today-2010-11
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Your attitude toward music and sports is an opinion, not a "truth." Thanks for illustrating my points about the dumbing down effects of rigid ideologies
The statement above proves conclusively you don't believe in truth and furthermore you don't believe that people can know truth.
The above statement proves conclusively that you can't tell the difference between your own biases and objective truth.
You hate rock music and you hate pro sports and you pretend that this hatred constitutes some kind of knowable "truth".
Rigid ideology dumbs people down more than anything, clearly.
This is behind your meaningless "rigid ideology" statement. Besides I made no general comment about sports and music.
Sure you have. In the past you've knocked rock music and now you hypocritically knock professional sports.
Just because these diversions are not of your taste you think you can frame your own bias as some sort of "truth."
Swing and a miss.
What I stated was "professional sports and entertainment" are owned by organized crime networks.
And when you fill your gas tank you give profits to organized crime networks.
Lecture me when you have a leg to stand on, Terry. Your prejudices are not any kind of "truth."
They use these franchise to launder drug money, but more importantly they use these spectacles to dumb down the population and to bestialize them.
Many millions of people enjoy these events without incident, and you are going to cherry pick YouTube for isolated incidences?
Pathetic.
You on the other hand prefer the old excuse "the devil made me do it". According to you society cannot impose on your pleasures.
Your non sequiturs are showing, Terry.
You haven't answered my question: what is it about people having fun that you hate so much?
When I fill my gas tank up I give money to organized crime networks? You're absolutely daffy. I assume you're refering to the oil cartels?
The development of higher forms of energy has helped mankind to develop a modern economy. Where would you be without fossil fuel energy? You'd be strumming a tree branch.
Many millions of people enjoy these events without incident, and you are going to cherry pick YouTube for isolated incidences?
This is identical to the drug legalization argument. Classic. It's exactly as I stated "the devil made me do it". You cannot have society impose it's will and take away my pleasures.
And here is the same argument once again.
Just because these diversions are not of your taste you think you can frame your own bias as some sort of "truth."
See with you Cliff there is no truth, just "tastes" and everyone should be allowed to have their pleasures respected. Occam'sRazor at work.
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Your attitude toward music and sports is an opinion, not a "truth." Thanks for illustrating my points about the dumbing down effects of rigid ideologies
The statement above proves conclusively you don't believe in truth and furthermore you don't believe that people can know truth.
The above statement proves conclusively that you can't tell the difference between your own biases and objective truth.
You hate rock music and you hate pro sports and you pretend that this hatred constitutes some kind of knowable "truth".
Rigid ideology dumbs people down more than anything, clearly.
This is behind your meaningless "rigid ideology" statement. Besides I made no general comment about sports and music.
Sure you have. In the past you've knocked rock music and now you hypocritically knock professional sports.
Just because these diversions are not of your taste you think you can frame your own bias as some sort of "truth."
Swing and a miss.
What I stated was "professional sports and entertainment" are owned by organized crime networks.
And when you fill your gas tank you give profits to organized crime networks.
Lecture me when you have a leg to stand on, Terry. Your prejudices are not any kind of "truth."
They use these franchise to launder drug money, but more importantly they use these spectacles to dumb down the population and to bestialize them.
Many millions of people enjoy these events without incident, and you are going to cherry pick YouTube for isolated incidences?
Pathetic.
You on the other hand prefer the old excuse "the devil made me do it". According to you society cannot impose on your pleasures.
Your non sequiturs are showing, Terry.
You haven't answered my question: what is it about people having fun that you hate so much?
Are you having "fun" in a jobless and dead society? Yeah, just turn the volume up, right?
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Dean,
Never mind that professional sports are the personal playground of organized crime. Even the notorious Lurie family and the Giants.
Lurie sold the team 18 years ago. I guess you missed it.
And let's not forget the "Jacobs" family mob and Emprise "aka" Delaware North Companies have secured the majority of concession contracts at MLB and NFL games to help them launder dirty money.
Given the level of corruption among global corporate elites you'd have to live like the Amish not to engage the filthy bastards one way or another.
Do you drive a car, Terry? Watch TV? Eat foods produced by major corporations?
Do people who don't live according to your puritanical standards offend you?
Who needs to get Havana back in the fold?
In 1963 W. Averell Harriman, Clint Murchison, Jr. and Meyer Lanksy wanted to restore Havana as the center for international narcotics trafficking, a position it held in the 50's before Castro took over. I'd speculate that the assassination of JFK was designed to provide a pre-text for the invasion of Cuba to affect that end.
Between all the hot money in major league sports they don't need Cuba.
You don't understand the heroin market and its importance to the elites. Not only is it a source of untraceable black money but it is a means to cull the human herd. The Jupiter Island Gang of blue-blood elites (Rockefeller/Harriman/Bush) have always been big on eugenics, which is one reason they financed the Nazis in the 20s, 30s and early 40s. After WW2 they moved heroin into black communities, a pattern repeated in the 80's with cocaine.
This is a holocaust by another means, and the prime motivation for wars in Vietnam and Afghanistan.
All they need are "fans" who never ask any questions as long as they're being entertained by "my team".
Unless you live on a self-sustaining farm and never consume petroleum products your self-righteousness is misplaced.
Heaven forbid anyone should have fun in their lives!
Go Giants.
Let's not forget the SON of JFK Assassination sponsor Clint Murchison, Sr. was one of the owners of the Dallas Cowboys ... and the SONS of JFK assassation sponsor HL Hunt were the founders of the American football league.
Constance Kritberg (and myself) believe that Clint Murchison, Sr. was one of the elite sponsors of the JFK assassination.
I think the connection to football is just a coincidence ... that is what rich people do with their money: buy sports franchises.
No, they manipulate the population into loving the fact they're slaves. In return for revoking their citizenship they give them "entertainment and pleasure".
What did the Roman ruling elite call it "Bread and circus"?
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Your attitude toward music and sports is an opinion, not a "truth." Thanks for illustrating my points about the dumbing down effects of rigid ideologies
The statement above proves conclusively you don't believe in truth and furthermore you don't believe that people can know truth. This is behind your meaningless "rigid ideology" statement. Besides I made no general comment about sports and music. What I stated was "professional sports and entertainment" are owned by organized crime networks. They use these franchise to launder drug money, but more importantly they use these spectacles to dumb down the population and to bestialize them.
You on the other hand prefer the old excuse "the devil made me do it". According to you society cannot impose on your pleasures.
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Exactly what did I write that wasnt true? That it offends you is not the issue.
Your rebuttal is straight out of the "devil made me do it" hand book.
Now you're comparing food production, transportation, and energy to hollywood "entertainment "? You tie them together with your "global elite" BS. Food, energy, and transportation systems are instrumental to sustain life or to improve life. Entertainment? What, watching a bunch of guys grunt and snort and beat their chest is that what you call "entertainment"?
Yes Terry, entertainment is important to help sustain and improve life.
You cannot name a human culture that doesn't produce entertainment.
The day you no longer indulge in the products of the corporate elite is the day you can lecture others.
And the following is total fantasy. Another indication that you prefer being entertained.
In 1963 W. Averell Harriman, Clint Murchison, Jr. and Meyer Lanksy wanted to restore Havana as the center for international narcotics trafficking, a position it held in the 50's before Castro took over. I'd speculate that the assassination of JFK was designed to provide a pre-text for the invasion of Cuba to affect that end.
Episode #33 from "As the Conspiracy Turns".
For your information chum Fidel Castro for years provided a safe haven in Cuba for Lansky successor, the notorious fugitive Robert Vesco. For years that old Synarchist Fidel Castro has been a major player in international drug trafficking.
That depends on how you define "major."
Havana ceased being THE hub of international narcotics trafficking the day Castro marched into Havana. Meyer Lansky had to move his operations to the Bahamas, and the Dominican Republic and Haiti became FAR GREATER hubs of drug trafficking than Cuba under Fidel.
Furthermore narcotic trafficking and money laundering has never been bigger, which was the point of my post to Dean.
And Cuba is a bit player in that, Terry. Which is my point.
All pro sports teams are owned by organized crime. They help dumb down the population while spreading vice like gambling, drugs and other pyschosis.
And that's entertainment!
Nothing dumbs a person down more than identifying with a rigid, self-righteous ideology.
At least I don't take my Giants team anywhere near as seriously as you take Team LaRouche.
Rigid self righteous ideology? Translation, "a person who asserts there is a knowable truth".
You never answered "what did I write that wasnt true"?
And now I have to stop eating, heating/cooling my home, walking to work? You're just slightly daffy. I thought this nonsense went out with Jimmy Carter? I would dare say that shutting down the NFL, MLB etc. and the criminal apparatus behind them would not cause loss of life. In fact every human mind in this country would experience immediate improvement.
Cut out food production, industry, infrastructure and you'll get what is happening in Haiti right now. Genocide.
The Roman Empire produced "entertainment" and look what happened
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Dean,
Never mind that professional sports are the personal playground of organized crime. Even the notorious Lurie family and the Giants.
Lurie sold the team 18 years ago. I guess you missed it.
And let's not forget the "Jacobs" family mob and Emprise "aka" Delaware North Companies have secured the majority of concession contracts at MLB and NFL games to help them launder dirty money.
Given the level of corruption among global corporate elites you'd have to live like the Amish not to engage the filthy bastards one way or another.
Do you drive a car, Terry? Watch TV? Eat foods produced by major corporations?
Do people who don't live according to your puritanical standards offend you?
Who needs to get Havana back in the fold?
In 1963 W. Averell Harriman, Clint Murchison, Jr. and Meyer Lanksy wanted to restore Havana as the center for international narcotics trafficking, a position it held in the 50's before Castro took over. I'd speculate that the assassination of JFK was designed to provide a pre-text for the invasion of Cuba to affect that end.
Between all the hot money in major league sports they don't need Cuba.
You don't understand the heroin market and its importance to the elites. Not only is it a source of untraceable black money but it is a means to cull the human herd. The Jupiter Island Gang of blue-blood elites (Rockefeller/Harriman/Bush) have always been big on eugenics, which is one reason they financed the Nazis in the 20s, 30s and early 40s. After WW2 they moved heroin into black communities, a pattern repeated in the 80's with cocaine.
This is a holocaust by another means, and the prime motivation for wars in Vietnam and Afghanistan.
All they need are "fans" who never ask any questions as long as they're being entertained by "my team".
Unless you live on a self-sustaining farm and never consume petroleum products your self-righteousness is misplaced.
Heaven forbid anyone should have fun in their lives!
Go Giants.
Exactly what did I write that wasnt true? That it offends you is not the issue.
Your rebuttal is straight out of the "devil made me do it" hand book.
Now you're comparing food production, transportation, and energy to hollywood "entertainment "? You tie them together with your "global elite" BS. Food, energy, and transportation systems are instrumental to sustain life or to improve life. Entertainment? What, watching a bunch of guys grunt and snort and beat their chest is that what you call "entertainment"?
And I fail to see why the sale date of the SF Giants has anything to do with it. The grandson of late Max Fisher of the notorious Purple Gang is the latest owner of the Miami Dolphins. "Go Dolphins"!!!! So what is your point?
And the following is total fantasy. Another indication that you prefer being entertained.
In 1963 W. Averell Harriman, Clint Murchison, Jr. and Meyer Lanksy wanted to restore Havana as the center for international narcotics trafficking, a position it held in the 50's before Castro took over. I'd speculate that the assassination of JFK was designed to provide a pre-text for the invasion of Cuba to affect that end.
Episode #33 from "As the Conspiracy Turns".
For your information chum Fidel Castro for years provided a safe haven in Cuba for Lansky successor, the notorious fugitive Robert Vesco. For years that old Synarchist Fidel Castro has been a major player in international drug trafficking. Furthermore narcotic trafficking and money laundering has never been bigger, which was the point of my post to Dean.
All pro sports teams are owned by organized crime. They help dumb down the population while spreading vice like gambling, drugs and other pyschosis.
And that's entertainment!
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Dean,
Never mind that professional sports are the personal playground of organized crime. Even the notorious Lurie family and the Giants. And let's not forget the "Jacobs" family mob and Emprise "aka" Delaware North Companies have secured the majority of concession contracts at MLB and NFL games to help them launder dirty money.
Who needs to get Havana back in the fold? Between all the hot money in major league sports they don't need Cuba. All they need are "fans" who never ask any questions as long as they're being entertained by "my team".
But what you're watching when you watch these games is "organized crime". It doesnt matter be it the NFL, NBA, MLB, NHL or the PGA Tour it's all there to dumb down the population while laundering multi millions in drug proceeds.
Remember Meyer Lansky's INTERTEL? Their first client was the NFL. They are still the NFL's private security firm. The next time you read about an NFL star getting busted for drugs just think of INTERTEL.
http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Rec/rec.gambling.poker/2006-01/msg01757.html
Ed Levinson, "owner" of the Fremont, also had ties with the Chicago
mob family: "In 1962 Bobby Baker had had established the
Serve-U-Corporation with his friend, Fred Black, and mobsters Ed
Levenson and Benny Sigelbaum. The company was to provide vending
machines for companies working on federally granted programs. The
machines were manufactured by a company secretly owned by Sam Giancana
and other mobsters based in Chicago." From Nonmenclature of an
Assassination Cabal]
["Baker called Intercontinental's chairman and arranged an appointment
to see him, but on the day of the appointment, Baker showed up with
mobster Ed Levison, brother to the infamous Louis "Sleep-Out Louie"
Levenson, who was the original manager of Meyer Lansky's casino, the
Havana Riviera in Cuba, and was now running the Fremont in Las Vegas
which was secretly owned by Tony Accardo, Sam Giancana and Paul Ricca.
It was also at Accardo's request that Levenson managed to get then
Senator Lyndon Johnson and Baker as his first official guests at the
opening of the Stardust casino back in 1955." John William Tuohy 2002]
It was the ties with the Chicago mob that secured Levinson's contract
for the Fremont Hotel, a property that Benny Binion was planning to
develop. The loan was channeled through a legitimate backer, Lou Lurie,
to mask the hidden mob involvement. Binion had offered Jack Dragna (LA
mob representative) 25 points in the Fremont in exchange for putting a
hit on Russain Louie, who was blackmailing Binion. After the hit,
Dragna settled with Binion for a reported sum of $200,000 but did not
tell Jimmy Fratianno who made the hit on Russian Louie. Here's the
account From The Last Mafioso:
[benny Binion promised LA mobster Jack Dragna at 25% interest in the
proposed Fremont Hotel in exchange for killing Russian Louie, a card
cheat that was blackmailing Binion.
Jimmy Fratianno later went to Binion to collect. "You know I'm the guy
that did the xxxxing job on Russian Louie, don't you?"
"Yes, I know it," replied Binion.
"So how come I don't get no money?"
"How much do you need?"
"I want sixty thousand."
"You've got it Jimmy," said Binion. "Give me a couple days to get it
together."
"That's number one. Number two, we was supposed to get twenty-five
percent of that Fremont joint. What happened to that deal?"
"Jimmy don't you know what happened? Jack (Dragna) wanted cash instead
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http://www.whowhatwhy.com/the-game-that-goes-on-and-on.html see page 1 page 2 page 3 Skull and Bones is a British front.
The staff director for Obamas Economic Advisory Board, who also serves as a member of the presidents powerful Council of Economic Advisers, is Austan Goolsbee, who along with Donaldson and Bush shared membership in the exclusive Yale secret society, Skull and Bones. Goolsbee has pretty much stayed out of the news, except for a brief scandal during the 2008 campaign when a Canadian government internal memo characterized Goolsbee as reassuring our Northern neighbors that Obamas anti-NAFTA rhetoric was just that, political positioning that did not reflect the candidates real position on globalization. ************************************************************************* weaken USA ************************ *********************************
Searching for help half a world away, President Barack Obama on Saturday embraced India as the next jobs-creating giant for hurting Americans, not a cheap-labor rival that outsources opportunity from the United States.
... Obama directly addressed the belief in the U.S. that India is robbing Americans of jobs. He acknowledged that many Americans only know trade and global commerce as the source of a job shipped overseas.
"There still exists a caricature of India as a land of call centers and back offices that cost American jobs. That's a real perception," Obama said. He noted the real concern in India that American corporate giants, if welcomed, would run mom-and-pop stories out of business and upend Indian culture.
Seeking to dismiss all "old stereotypes," Obama said the relationship between the countries is "creating jobs, growth, and higher living standards in both our countries. And that is the truth."
Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2010/1...
************* Steve say ++ Obama is totally full of it IMHO sg
Steve,
Watch Jeff Steinberg give an overview of the British Empire. This was 1997
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74dse3XCltA&feature=related
Part 5 and 6 touch on the creation of the "counter culture", or the attack on the "baby boomers" who were turned away from the cultural outlook provided by Kennedy to the degenerate "sex, rock, drug" culture provided by his British murderers.
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I'd rather listen to LBJ speak than take the word of Madeline Brown.
Here is the LBJ interview with Walter Cronkite in 1969. Cronkite asks the former President if he is satisfied there was no conspiracy in the murder of JFK.
Later in 1973 right before his death LBJ made another provocative public statement regarding the JFK assassination. He reportedly said when asked about the JFK murder
"We were running a damn Murder Inc. in the carribean". Might the former President be refering to "Permindex"? Permindex was identified by French intelligence as being behind the assassination attempts against Charles De Gualle. Permindex was also fingered as being responsible for the murder of Italian industrialist Enrico Mattei.
Clay Shaw arrested by New Orleans DA Jim Garrison and charged with conspiracy in the JFK case was a director of Permindex.
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November 4th 2010
Port-Au-Prince, Haiti (CNN) -- A cholera outbreak in Haiti continues to spread to previously unaffected areas in rural communities, killing 442 people and hospitalizing 6,742 others, the Pan American Health Organization said Wednesday.
http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/americas/11/04/haiti.cholera/?hpt=T2
An American solution to the crisis in Haiti was proposed by Lyndon LaRouche back on February 24th 2010. The cholera outbreak was perfectly predictable even as far back as February 2010.
President Obama acting like GW Bush during the crisis in New Orleans would prefer to watch Haitians perish. Welcome to the new dark age.
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What exactly is my theory?
"Your" theory re: 9/11 just like your theories regarding just about everything else are whatever your guru and his disciples tell you.
I never expressed a theory about 911. I expressed my opinion that "debunking dad" was a fraud, and it is. I can't help if you're a sucker for this kind of goofy stunt.
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LYNDON LADOUCHE:
What this indicates, that the President is very close to a
total breakdown, a total mental breakdown, and he's so close,
that we have to say, between now, Wednesday, and next Tuesday,
when the election, or will be completed, actually, on the
following day, on Wednesday, that during this period, we're at a
time, where the rate of degeneration of this President's mental
condition, is so rapid, and accelerating at such a rate, that we
don't know he's going to make it, to the Tuesday election. Which
means that, the Vice President, has now got to do some very
serious rethinking, of his resistance to the 25th Amendment,
section 4, option.
This guy is, obviously, on the verge of a total nervous
breakdown...
Obama makes a dumb joke and from this the octogenarian crank concludes Obama is "obviously, on the verge of a total nervous breakdown"!? Sounds like a case of projection. I imagine this is one of the 'predictions' his followers will conveniently forget when they go on about his abilities to predict the future.
LaRouche made this assessment based on a dumb joke? Read closer "Stinker", that was hardly what LaRouche said. As far as predictions I recall our debate over derivatives, where you took the same uninformed position and sure enough the whole shebang came apart right on schedule.
And look the "Stinker" and Healy both have the same capacity to "block" out the truth. The "debunker" and the "truther" are not so different after all.
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JOHN HOEFLE: Welcome to the LaRouche PAC Weekly Report.
Today is Oct. 27, 2010. I'm John Hoefle, and with me today in
the studio are Jeff Steinberg and Lyndon LaRouche.
So, Lyn, there's some interesting developments in the White
House, among other things.
LYNDON LAROUCHE: It's quite a serious one, which has cited
some humorous comment over the waves, over the night. The thing
is, I think most people know about it, but, the President of the
United States, in a fairly ominous action -- of a different kind
of ominous action, was attending a Rhode Island event which was
sponsored to fund him and his campaigns, at $7,500 a clip for
about 50 guests. And before the meal was served, the President
got up, and announced he had to leave. He had to go home to put
his children to bed, and poop the dog, or scoop the pooper of the
dog. [laughter] Now, this has caused great amusement, but also,
it causes great concern, which has a double side to it: The
concern, on the one hand, is bad, but the implication may be
good.
What this indicates, that the President is very close to a
total breakdown, a total mental breakdown, and he's so close,
that we have to say, between now, Wednesday, and next Tuesday,
when the election, or will be completed, actually, on the
following day, on Wednesday, that during this period, we're at a
time, where the rate of degeneration of this President's mental
condition, is so rapid, and accelerating at such a rate, that we
don't know he's going to make it, to the Tuesday election. Which
means that, the Vice President, has now got to do some very
serious rethinking, of his resistance to the 25th Amendment,
section 4, option.
This guy is, obviously, on the verge of a total nervous
breakdown. So, we have a Woodrow Wilson case, of a different
flavor, now, in the White House. And there are all kinds of
things on the horizon, which shudder with the implications of
this from various parts of the country.
Now, the other side is, it's hopeful in the sense, that he's
at the point, where people have to recognize, we have a worse
than Woodrow Wilson case, in which the President's wife is not
able to perform the kind of soothing function, which Woodrow
Wilson's wife performed for him, in his moment of last extremity.
So, that, we're going to be faced with the fact, where it becomes
absolutely necessary, to immediately take the required action.
Which means that the Congress will have to be called back into
session, very soon, probably by Monday, at the way things are
going. I can not predict exactly when, but we have to think in
certain terms of reference. That the mental state of the
President, as I first defined it on April 11th, 2009, has
consistently followed the trend, which I have recognized since
that time, and it's now come to the breaking point. What he did,
last night, in Rhode Island, that walkout, shows a complete
breakdown, in process. And this means, that it's not something
that threatens down the line, a few weeks or so: It's now. This
President is no longer competent to be President.
And we have the worst world crisis, in terms of economy,
that has ever existed in modern civilization, which is
planet-wide. And the President of the United States is crucial,
because if the United States goes under, the entire world will
immediately go under in chain-reaction fashion. If the United
States goes under, the British system, the Western and Central
European system will go, the Russian system will go; and then
later, China, India, and so forth in that part of the world. And
of course, China and India, and so forth, can not sustain world
stability, when the whole system has gone into something worse,
on a global scale, than Weimar 1923 hyperinflation. That's where
we're at that point, the equivalent of that point, but on a
global scale, with none of the constraints that operated in terms
1923. This is {far worse} than 1923 Germany, on a world scale,
because there's no stopping points.
And many people who are leading people, economists and so
forth, have gone gutless on me on this one: They're so
frightened, probably by threats among other things, from the
Presidency, because the threats are really out there -- this is
wild, and the President is now insane! I can say, assuredly,
now, with this behavior, which I've been diagnosing, accurately,
since the 11th of April last year, this man is now gone
completely bonkers!
And you have the United States is keystone, in terms of the
situation of the world as a whole, because if the United States
goes, you have a chain reaction, which will wipe out this whole
Inter-Alpha, among other things. It can not withstand this,
because the effects are real. And people who think like the
British, don't think in terms of real things. Sometimes they do,
when they're getting nasty, and pulling dirty tricks on people.
When it comes to this kind of reality, they're not really sane,
because they're trapped in their own ideology. Usually the
British are able to escape from their own ideology, and play
dirty tricks, behind the screen of an ideology. But this one,
they can't do. Because the whole world's going under.
What we have is the situation currently, which is, the
United States and other nations are already hopelessly bankrupt:
That is to say, that to the degree that we are able, in a
diminishing degree, to maintain the absolute necessities of human
life, for a growing portion of our own population, and we have a
similar situation in Europe, it's spreading around the world, you
are already using up past resources. We are not supporting the
world economy on the basis of presently produced resources!
We're managing to struggle along, with a diminishing larder, a
rapidly diminishing larger.
So, at this point, if we lose the continuity, of a
reversible policy, in the United States, then the United States
goes under. And if the United States goes under, despite {all}
the dream world from Europe and so forth, the world goes under,
too. It's the end of civilization.
Therefore, since we need a President, a real President -- it
can even be the current Vice President; it would be suitable for
this purpose, as a member of a team, a team of people who are
going to work together, then we could make the necessary
decisions. Because we could take the actions, which are, first,
Glass-Steagall, and then, going immediately for a negotiation of
an international fixed-exchange-rate system. Because the only
way you can save the world, is, by now, quickly introducing, a
global fixed-exchange-rate system. But to do that, first, you've
got to put a Glass-Steagall law, quickly, through in the United
States. And I would say, that we would push -- if I were
President -- I would say we're going to push it for this coming
week: both actions.
And I think we could get it through, because the world now
knows -- Western Europe, it's a hopeless situation. Absolutely
hopeless. They may pretend otherwise, but it's hopeless. Russia
has got itself into a hopeless situation, because Russian policy
is now enslaved, to the pirates of the Caribbean, who are all
these funny places like these islands out there, "Pidgeonhole
Bank," and is running this thing in Russia or so forth. You have
it both in the Antilles and so forth.
JEFFREY STEINBERG: Antigua.
LAROUCHE: Exactly, exactly. If you don't Russian, you
can't get admission.
STEINBERG: Exactly! You can't get a cup of coffee in
Antigua --
LAROUCHE: If you don't speak Russian?
STEINBERG: Right! [laughter]
LAROUCHE: So, they're in that kind of situation. So, we
have to do that.
Now, the measures we have to take, are fairly simple in
terms of definition. Glass-Steagall, Franklin Roosevelt's
Glass-Steagall law, that's clear. It's a known entity, it worked
when it was in effect, it'll work now. But without
Glass-Steagall, we can not get out from under this big bubble.
We've got to get out from under the bubbles. And the only way
you can do it, is Glass-Steagall. But, then, you turn around,
you have to look at the world situation, because the whole world
is about to go into a chain-reaction collapse. Therefore, you
have to immediately stop this loose money, and the only way to
do, that is with a fixed-exchange-rate system. Which means, that
other nations will have to do the equivalent of a Glass-Steagall
reform of their own system.
Now, this will mean, it will break up the whole euro system.
It means destroying the euro system. But the euro system itself
is inclined to destroy itself.
HOEFLE: It's doing a good job of it.
LAROUCHE: Right, exactly. So therefore, the Europeans have
no option for survival, without getting out of the euro system.
They just have to vote to agree, to cancel the whole system! The
agreement is cancelled. Then Germany and other countries can
begin to organize their survival, particularly if we have a
fixed-exchange-rate system internationally.
Now, solves the problem of China, China's relationship to
the United States, a fixed-exchange-rate system, will solve the
problem. The reason we have a problem, is because the United
States refuses to accepted a fixed-exchange- rate system. If we
have a fixed-exchange-rate agreement with China, that solves that
problem. It doesn't solve Wall Street's problem, but that's
simple: We eliminate Wall Street. [Hoefle chuckles]
These are the kinds of remedial measures which must be taken
immediately if we're going to save civilization. It's no longer
a matter of a bankrupt nation, or this kind of crisis, or the
other. We're now at a point, that very dramatic actions of the
type that Franklin Roosevelt had in mind, this temperament of
Franklin Roosevelt, going into the Presidency in 1933, {that's}
what you need. That's where you're at, now. If you're not
willing to think that way, you're not fit to govern the United
States. And all we have to do, is have the sitting Vice
President, decide he's going to act like a President. And I
think if we can get these conditions through, that he will be
content to be President. I don't think he would like to be
President under the present conditions. I think he'd rather have
the other guy take the brunt on this one.
STEINBERG: Right.
LAROUCHE: But I think that his long-standing desire to be
President, could be realized now, to the advantage of the country
and the world. Because, all he has to do, is do a few fairly
simple things, which assure him, that his Presidency will be, for
the next two years, a successful one. I think he'll take it! If
he's convinced that that's the deal. And that would make a very
simple remedy, for a lot of problems. Because the current
President is clinically insane. I can say that: I'm an expert in
this area. I've established my expertise. I've been right on
this guy, all the way through, and I can tell you exactly what's
going on inside him, his head. You do want to know about it.
[laughter]
STEINBERG: You actually had, the other day, the latest
installment of these "Ulsterman" reports from insiders in and
around the White House, an incident a few days ago, very similar
to what was described in Rhode Island, on "Off the Cuff" this
morning, and in the news, namely that there was a full-dress
National Security Council meeting scheduled last week, to begin
the process of reviewing what's going on in Afghanistan. There
were 22 people in the room, it was scheduled for a certain time:
Obama breezed in, 10-15 minutes late, giggling with some aides,
sat down, completely disinterested; after about 10 minutes,
without even taking notes, got up and left, and designated some
staff people to handle the rest of the meeting, and walked out.
There were people from the Joint Chiefs of Staff there, and
similar reaction: You're dealing with somebody who's clearly
going through a psychological meltdown.
And, as you know, Lyn, we heard some reports from some
leading Democrats yesterday, that there's a panic over the idea,
that after Tuesday's election results, we're going to go into a
situation of ungovernability. And you had a very simple answer
to that, you said, "Get Obama out of there, and we've got all the
conditions at hand to be able to govern, through this crisis."
LAROUCHE: We have, we have. But the key thing, I understand
he was giggling on the way out!
STEINBERG: Yes, exactly.
LAROUCHE: As well, as on the way in.
STEINBERG: Exactly, yeah.
LAROUCHE: Well, this guy is really cracked up. We have
full evidence, as much as you get from the outside, that {this
guy is a gone bunny.} He's got to be removed from the White
House now. This means that the Vice President must get a
majority among the members of the cabinet, he must take the
action, and he must initiate, with their backing, a call for
recalling the members of Congress, back to the Congress for an
emergency session, to consider action under section 4 of the 25th
Amendment.
Get the guy out! Let the Vice President take over,
preferably {before} the election on Tuesday, preferably before
then! I would say, my agenda would be, to have, by the weekend,
is to have -- he, the Vice President, and a majority of the
cabinet, agreement that this is necessary, by confronting them
with the full evidence of what the problem is here. And this
Rhode Island event is drawing the last straw. This is a total
gone! He's gone!
And therefore, we can -- then, the Vice President can call
in, the members of Congress under the provision of the 25th
Amendment, and they can be faced with making the decision. Now,
if we can get them in, on Monday, they're under the hammer.
Because the vote is going to be -- now, there's of course, early
elections in many parts of the country, but the hammer is on
them, on Tuesday, in the Tuesday voting. And under those
conditions, every member of Congress, his chances of being
re-elected, depends on the way he votes on this question of the
25th Amendment! And also, which means, they have to jam in, on
the fixed-exchange-rate system, but on the first Glass-Steagall
Act. Glass-Steagall is ready to go immediately. Go with that.
Go with that on Monday! If you go with that Monday, then fight
out with the world getting a fixed-exchange-rate system, then by
Tuesday, or Wednesday morning, you may have a go situation for
recovery of the planet, with other measures taken.
But right now, as long as this poor nut, this guy who's
obviously clinically insane, remains President, there's no chance
of doing this stuff. He certainly won't do it under it, under
his condition of insanity. And I think that the White House,
otherwise, the Vice President and the cabinet should be scared
enough, right now, that they know they have to do something like
this. And, it's not dictatorial; it's simply going back to our
Constitution, and the legislation which is pertinent to that
Constitution, and taking a Constitutional action, to bring
stability to United States, and to restore a spark of confidence,
to a world which is about ready to blow up!
STEINBERG: You know, the 25th Amendment, section 4, has
never been formally invoked. But it has been adopted as a
consideration on a number of occasions previously, including a
couple of times during the Reagan Presidency, including the day
he was shot; and it also came up during the final days of Nixon.
And I think that had Nixon not made the wise decision to resign
and leave down, even before the impeachment trial in the Senate,
there were people ready to invoke section 4, because at the very
end, the reports I've gotten from people who were pretty close in
at that time, is that Nixon was off the deep end: He was
drinking heavily, under medication, and was ready to blow.
So, Biden is afraid of the implications of it, but I think
it's unavoidable, and the framers of the 25th Amendment had this
exact kind of situation in mind.
LAROUCHE: And Biden should recognize, that he has more to
fear from not acting, than from acting.
STEINBERG: Absolutely.
LAROUCHE: I mean, I know the blackmail, I know the death
threats, and so forth, this kind of atmosphere, which exists in
that environment. Because you have some real fascists in the
woodwork around there. And they're prepared to act! And the
only way to stave them off, is not to coddle them. The way, is
to take the preemptive action, which eliminates their power to do
damage.
Once we do it, I assure you, that we can get the breakup of
the European Union, back to sovereign nation-states.
STEINBERG: Back to de Gaulle's idea.
LAROUCHE: Right. That will mean, immediately, the
possibility, minus the problem we have inside Germany, of
bringing Germany back into the fold as a keystone nation, rather
the nation that has to pay everybody else's debts. That means,
again, -- because Germany is one of the few nations which still
has, residually, even though it's not using it at home, the
technological capability of being a positive factor in
development of other nations. We have a shortage,
internationally, of the technologies required to sustain the
planet. Germany has the knowledge, still, of how to do some of
that production, and can be a key factor and multiplier, of the
possibility of saving the planet, from this mess. But that's the
condition we're faced with, right now.
HOEFLE: That would be a real October Surprise -- a good one,
for a change.
LAROUCHE: Yeah. The point is, do we have people who have
the guts to do it. And guts means, do you have the competence to
understand, what it is you have to do? To understand why you
must do it? It's like a decision in war, like command in
warfare. It's like the case of George Washington crossing the
Delaware: The United States had no ability to win a war against
the British at that time. But, by Washington recognizing that,
and under desperate conditions, and desperate conditions of
movement, moved in on Trenton! And that saved the United States'
existence, at that time!
And so, in a case like this, often, in really strategic
situations, like the case of Friedrich der Grosse, his famous
battle, that, he had tired troops, his troop strength was less
than that of the Austrian opposition, and he whipped them, by
outflanking them, twice in the same day, by getting his troops,
who were also ready exhausted, to make a deployment which the
Austrians thought impossible, because they had a Classical
double-envelopment operation in place, perfectly designed, based
on the Roman example. And he outflanked them, from an inferior
position in strength, in both his troops, who exhausted from a
fast march, and from the fact that they were totally outnumbered.
But they took these excellently poised Austrian forces, and they
whipped them twice in the same day on the same battlefield.
And often, in real history, -- I mean, things like that have
happened in U.S. history, for example, repeatedly, military
history, is, {you don't play by the rules.} You look at the
table, you look what the rules are; and you add a new rule, which
was not in the book then. IN warfare, you do that. You add a
new rule, you added new dimension, like what MacArthur did, in
Korea, in the Inchon landing! Completely outflanked the entire
situation! And, it's that kind of thinking, which as it applies
to political actions, in general, including financial-political
actions, as well as to warfare, that you must, in a strategic
situation {think strategically}! And you have to think in these
kinds of terms, like those of Friedrich der Grosse and so forth:
You must think, outthink! Get off the table! Don't play warfare
on the table! Play {off} the table, attack the table from
outside.
And that's what was required here: A very simple kind of
action: You want, impeachment, Glass-Steagall, and go for
negotiating a fixed-exchange rate system. Those are the measures
which can lead to the survival of civilization! Simply outflank
the situation, the present situation, in the simplest possible
way. Because, the minute you show the American people, in
particular, that we have a scheme that's going to prevent them
from going Hell, which they're going to right now, they're going
to react positively. They'll say, "At last! The bullxxxx's
over."
STEINBERG: Well, you've got, just in the immediate days
ahead, not only do we have the elections, next Tuesday, Nov. 2nd,
but the exact same day, you have the FOMC -- Federal Open Market
Committee -- meeting. And by every indication, they're prepared
to go with a complete hyperinflationary blowout policy, maybe as
much as $4 trillion, in new, hot money, to bail out this
mortgage-backed securities and the rest of the bubble.
LAROUCHE: What about a Glass-Steagall law at that point?
STEINBERG: Exactly, exactly!
LAROUCHE: That's outflanking the sons-of --
STEINBERG: Exactly. And then, days later, you've got the
G20 meeting in South Korea. We got a question from one of our
Asian diplomatic contacts just earlier today, because you had
this meeting last weekend of the finance minister and central
bankers of the G20, and Geithner was there. And the meeting was,
by all accounts, complete hysteria over this hyperinflationary
issue, which they characterized as "competitive devaluations."
But the South Koreans came out of it, saying that out of the
chaos, at least there was an agreement to avoid getting into this
kind of currency war race to the bottom, and the question posed
was, "Are we at a moment, where it's appropriate to put this
question of a New Bretton Woods fixed-exchange-rate system on the
table?"
LAROUCHE: Take the question of China, the neighbor of Korea
-- China, think of it.
STEINBERG: Right.
LAROUCHE: What is the issue, because the United States and
China? Now, if we start with Glass-Steagall, we get Obama out,
get Glass-Steagall and we go to a proposal of a
fixed-exchange-rate system -- will the Chinese support a
fixed-exchange-rate system?
STEINBERG: Hundred percent.
LAROUCHE: Will the Indians support it?
STEINBERG: Absolutely. [laughs] They'll rejoice.
LAROUCHE: Will the Russians support it?
STEINBERG: Mm-hmm.
LAROUCHE: Well, it would mean some shakeups in Russia.
STEINBERG: Yeah, exactly.
LAROUCHE: Will Europe support it? Well, if it means the
breakup of the European Union. Break that up, now. And then
Europe is freed from this garbage. Germany begins to function
immediately, again, provided they get the nuts out of control.
France will probably have a new President, because this one will
probably -- like Rumpelstiltskin, will probably tear himself
apart, in rage, at the change.
STEINBERG: [laughs] Right! Follow Michelle Obama's
example.
LAROUCHE: Exactly! So, under those conditions, by flanking
those conditions properly, and moving on actions which are in the
common interest of nations, particularly of nations which have a
consciousness of this point of interest, and realize that a
common interest on this question is the best solution, and if
China's in agreement with this, well, what can the United States
say? The United States having a fixed-exchange-rate system with
China, Japan, and Korea, and India, means that the whole world is
going to go back in order. It won't be nice at first -- it'll
muddy, it'll be broken down, and shantytown. {But!} We will be
on the way {up}, rather than the way down.
HOEFLE: I look at this, and I keep thinking about the
Malaysian monkey trap. [laughter]
LAROUCHE: You like that, huh?
HOEFLE: Yeah! Because, all we have to do, is let go of our
delusions and we can solve these problems,
LAROUCHE: Exactly.
HOEFLE: And there's nothing really complicated about it.
It's not hard to understand policies. The difficulty is finding
the {guts} to look it in the eye, and say, "Okay, look, this is
{nuts}! And we can't continue to do this. We have to give this
up!"
LAROUCHE: The problem is, only in shocks do people "get
it," when they see, this is the only available solution, because
it's the only available, visible solution, it's made visible to
them, they will tend the accept it. And if some important
nations start the process, you will get the agreement. The
problem is, that most people, including most governments, and
most political forces in the world, are not competent in economy.
So they don't understand economy as a principle. They have no
competent understanding of economy as a principle -- they're
monetarists. But, when they're faced with a certain concrete
situation, in which a certain agreement on monetary affairs, is
necessary to save their {butt}, they will adopt the policy on the
basis of the need to save their butt right now! And it's only
under conditions of an {immediate} crisis, that you can get those
kinds of decisions through. Because you don't have nations,
which have populations, or leadership, which are competent to
deal with this situation! But, they're competent to react, in a
certain way, under certain conditions. And as long as you're not
doing any damage to civilization, which means, you're not going
to start setting up dictatorships, but quite the contrary, since
you're going back to sovereign nation-states and negotiate with
sovereign nation-states on common interests, and you're going to
see to find common interests, rather than this kind of bullying
operation.
And that's the only way, at a time like this, that you can
get through the change which is needed. And the changes have to
be elementary: Impeachment, Glass-Steagall, and then go for
fixed-exchange-rate system. Those measures will, in and of
themselves, which are feasible, now on a global basis, with good
negotiations, those measures alone will save the United States,
and will permit the saving of the world situation.
And that's the only shot there is. Because, it's simple!
What can you get through, which will actually solve the problem,
not what you think you can get through -- that's the usual stuff
-- but what can you get through that will {solve the problem.}
That little thing "solve the problem" is the clause you have to
attach to any of those things, or policy recommendations.
HOEFLE: The consequences of not solving the problem, are a
descent into a new Dark Age.
LAROUCHE: Exactly!
HOEFLE: And we're in it, we're in it, and we have to start
climbing out of it, very quickly.
LAROUCHE: I saw a thing, this "Red, White, and Blue" thing
[candidates' debate] in Texas. And you had this loud-mouth,
babbling representative of the Democratic Party faction, just
doing everything to block Kesha out, possible. Well, we fixed
that, because Kesha went out, and made her own statement, which
was probably one of the most -- is the most decent kind, of
statesmanlike promotion, by any candidate, in sight, in this
entire period! Her statement to the world, on the situation in
Texas, and her appeal on this situation, is the finest statement,
of statesmanship, that I've seen produced on the hustings, in
this whole season! And I think intelligent people in Texas, and
around the world, will appreciate that fact! Because she spoke
the truth, and spoke it plainly, and clearly! And simply! And
that's the way you have to deal with the American people, at this
time.
You've got to give them clear, relevant, and simple
proposals, for actions which they can look back on, and say, it
was the right decision.
STEINBERG: Lyn, in that context, the other thing that
you've been pushing very strongly for the last several months, as
the cornerstone to a recovery policy for the U.S., is the North
American Water and Power Alliance, program, which is getting a
lot of enthusiasm and traction among the engineering and related
fields, that understand the implications of this.
LAROUCHE: What we've got, is a situation, essentially, all
we have to do is get the agreement with Canada, and Canada really
has no good choice, except to do this. Because they're
suffering, maybe more or less, than we are, in their
circumstances. Also, the future of Canada, depends, as the
Canadian government and others know, on the Arctic question: That
the challenge to Canada for its future, as a nation, dependents
upon cooperation on the Arctic, for various reasons.
Now, the only way that can be realized -- Canada can not
handle that by itself; it can not solve that problem. {But!}
Canada in a partnership, with the United States, and with giving
something to Mexico, as a bribe, shall we say -- that's what you
have to do, at this time, NAWAPA will mean, for this area, an
increase of {4 million productive jobs}. And the actual
rostering of that employment, will come immediately. In other
words, it won't be "eventually," 4 million jobs, it will mean
that the rostering of the cadre which is going to start the
process and the follow-up of getting more people involved, up to
4 million people will come very rapidly!
It will be on credit, yes! But, by the Glass-Steagall
measure, you will be able, therefore, to stop this flow of
bailout -- you just cancel it! And they've got these guys who
have these bailout funds, they're going to sit ther,e and they're
either going to pay the debt themselves, or they're going to be
liquidated.
So therefore, at that point, the Federal government will
have the ability, to issue credit for two general purposes: One,
we have states that {are now nonfunctional!} We have also major
cities in these states, which are nonfunctional, and in other
communities. Therefore, we have to have Federal bailout, for
these states, state governments, and for key municipal
governments, and others. Now, that's one thing. That's not a
safe investment, but that's an investment in the security of the
nation, and of the states.
We can not have police fired, firemen fired, municipal
functions destroyed -- it can not be allowed. All right, Wall
Street's going to have to eat that!
STEINBERG: Right!
LAROUCHE: Then, we have to then have projects, which will
actually generate a reconstruction of what had been the
industrial product of the United States, and agriculture.
Now, we have two problems we face: One is the lack of the
industrial and related development, which is the infrastructure
of industrial development. Secondly, is we have a water crisis
in the United States, based on the sinking of the aquifers around
the area of the 20-inch rainfall line. If these two things are
not addressed, we can't rebuild the United States. There's no
solution. {But!} If we enact NAWAPA, we {immediately} put
people to work, in the NAWAPA project itself, in millions of
people, because that's what it's going to take. You're going to
have to set up construction in various parts of the NAWAPA
project, in various parts. You're going to have build up a whole
apparatus, in each area of the buildup -- like the state of Idaho
is going to become a bonanza for employment! Because it's got
control with the greatest concentration of the pumping function
of the entire system.
So, Canada will benefit immediately, in a tremendous degree.
Whole things that are not possible for Canada now, will become
possible.
So, now we have these areas we're going to develop: This
will take us, really, involve about 3 million people employed.
Now, in order to do this, we're going to have to get a lot of
material into those areas, where the actual construction of
NAWAPA is occurring. We're going to have to revive the economies
of Pennsylvania, of Ohio, Michigan, Indiana, Illinois, out to St.
Louis: because it's in that area where we have the greatest
concentration of {lost} capacity, which can be revived, in terms
of skills and traditions, to produce a new set of modern rail
systems. And also, when you're going into mountain areas, you
don't want a rail system -- you want a maglev system. In other
words, you're going up a few thousand feet, in this area, like
Idaho, you don't want to have a train that's running on straight
rail. You need a maglev system, which is the only efficient way,
to actually deliver freight, into those areas as such.
Therefore, so, now you're going to create, in addition to
the NAWAPA project itself, the NAWAPA project is going to depend
upon a supply which has to come from other parts of the United
States. So you're going to revive everything that looks like a
decent industrial capability of the United States, and a
scientific capability, and you're going to put it back to work!
Because it's going to be employed, because the NAWAPA project is
going to demand that employment!
Now, all this stuff, in terms of -- you talk about 30-year
financing, credit financing: Well, in 30 years or so, by the time
we have the essentials of NAWAPA completed, everything would be
liquid! We would have increased the productivity of the United
States, you would have a growth in productivity, backed by solid
physical assets, and by assets in the form of the developments of
the minds and capabilities of large parts of our population,
which are no longer presently capable of doing anything.
So, these two approaches: One, deal with the emergency
situation. Stabilize the states immediately; put them through
reorganization, under Federal protection and subsidy. That
stabilizes the population. Now, get a real driver, and a big
driver, which is NAWAPA, and NAWAPA will mean the implication of
having {4 million jobs}, real jobs, productive jobs! In the
United States, {fast!} That means we go from a bankrupt economy,
to a reviving economy: It's the same principle that Franklin
Roosevelt used, when he came into office, with a plan. Well,
this is a plan! The plan exists. We're not imitating what
happened with the Tennessee Valley Authority: This is a much
bigger, and much higher quality. We're now in space! Because
we're now going into the Arctic area, which Canada has to go
into, too; but, we're going into the Arctic area, not as a
subsidizing the Arctic area, but we're using the Arctic area
development, to enable NAWAPA! So, there's a payback, coming in
the line right away.
Now, with the transportation system you have to build, in
Canada and in the United States, in order to handle this process,
you are going to revive the economies of these countries, and put
them on a growth pattern, which is otherwise impossible.
And once we do that, then we're going to go cross the Bering
Straits, probably with both, a tunnel and a rail system -- both,
would make sense. Then Russia, with this whole area of Siberia,
which is now neglected, but has a rich concentration of essential
resources, the people of Asia, in particular, need -- but
Russia's not able now to develop that, although we have the
scientific capability among some people as old as I am, in
Russia, who know how to do these things.
So therefore, now you're giving Russia, a program which will
solidify its cooperative relationship with China. China
requires, from Russia -- it doesn't require putting Chinese
people into Siberia; what it requires is developing, in the
Siberian area, and similar places, developing the sources of
minerals, especially rare earth, all kinds of things which are
needed by China and by India, by the southern part of Asia. So
therefore, you now have got a program, which is now saving Russia
from the present crisis, helping China to develop, solve its
problem; you're helping India, you're helping the nations of
Asia. You also are creating a market by this development, for
Europe! Because Europe, particularly France and Germany, can
readily participate in a significant way, in the development
centered in Asia.
So therefore, we have at hand, with a few, simple
conceptions, as like what we planned on the Darién Gap, this same
kind of thing: We have the ability to change the character of the
planet, from a dying planet, which it is now, to a viable planet,
with a few, clearly struck, identifications of measures to be
taken. And other measures which are obvious will follow. We've
created the impetus for the other measures which we want to
consider, to come into reality. You never started a great
project of this type, without great spillovers, that you didn't
really plan for.
STEINBERG: Right. [laughs]
LAROUCHE: You just start to get what's called "famous
American ingenuity," which we used to have! What you have to do,
is build an industry, one industry in a metropolitan area, and
you will find all kinds of industries, smaller ones that are
springing up, which you didn't really plan for! [laughter]
STEINBERG: Right! People dusting off inventions that
they've had sitting in their garage for decades!
LAROUCHE: You need to get that spirit going back among our
people.
HOEFLE: This is the antithesis of this green fascist
movement.
LAROUCHE: Sure. Well, the green fascist movement is worse
than that: This is a legacy of the Cult of Delphi, among others:
That in ancient times, when maritime technology was the leading
part of the world, and the monopoly on maritime technology was
held by a very small part of the world population, these were the
people who could navigate from across the Atlantic Ocean, into
the Mediterranean, into the Pacific region, Indian Ocean region.
And so, these mariners became, in the fall of the Persian Empire,
became actually the dominant factor, in Europe, through the
Mediterranean, largely. And a whole section of these mariners
became, what they call -- they called themselves "gods."
And you had Aeschylus' famous {Prometheus} trilogy, of which
the middle part survived, {Prometheus Bound}, that this
conception was, that the gods prohibit the other people, from
having the rights of the gods, and therefore, they would say, "we
don't allow fire," which is what is used in the Aeschylus -- "we
don't allow fire" to the poor people. "Fire is only for the
gods. "
Now, who were the gods? The gods are this caste, which
comes from a maritime culture, which has a superior technology to
that of the land-lubbers. And therefore, they used this
superiority for a tyranny, and they actually control the {size}
of the populations of people, because if the people become
skilled, then the people can not be controlled by the oligarchs.
Therefore, you have to keep the people {stupid}: Don't let them
have technology, like the use of fire, because the difference
between mankind and an ape, is fire. Apes don't like fire!
Mankind lives on fire. There's a big difference!
So therefore, you had this kind of system. So, we have a
legacy of oligarchism, which in terms of European and
trans-Atlantic civilization, comes out of this area, this
maritime area, this oligarchical system. They are the ones who
invented the idea of currency as a medium of empire. In other
words, what we call currency today, has no real value. It has no
intrinsic value. And, as a matter of fact, the problem is, when
we treat money as value, we do what was done now: We try to get
money, but we do it by destroying physical production, and the
means of labor. So therefore, our conception of value, by
attributing value to a monetary system, then what you're doing,
you're destroying the people and you're destroying the system.
And that's what the problem has been.
So the idea of a fixed-exchange-rate system, and a system
like the system in Massachusetts, during the period under --
STEINBERG: The Mathers, and --
LAROUCHE: Yeah, before the British came in there, and
screwed it up, in Massachusetts. That's been the great crisis:
The domination of the world, by intrinsically imperialist
networks, of monetarists systems -- sometimes in quarrel with
each other, sometimes altogether -- and we've now got this sense
of an altogether monetary system. The monetary system must be
destroyed. Because what we're doing, is, we're not paying
enough, to pay for the cost of production, of things that we
need! In terms of infrastructure and anything else. And the
reason we're not, is because we're allowing a bunch of parasites,
to use their control over the monetarists, to use their control
over the monetarist system, to milk and loot the population, and
destroy the economy!
So therefore, this was always the implication of the
American System, as against the European monetarist system, or
the Venetian system, as it's sometimes called. And so, this is
the problem: We have to realize, that the reason we're in
trouble, is because we have gone to a {monetarist} system, which
came to us, as a break from the Roosevelt system. First of all,
the break from Roosevelt himself, and his policy, which is his
death. And then, the monetarist reforms, like 1971, and also, it
was done, again, by J.P. Morgan and Co., with unleashing this
great wave of speculation, financial speculation, which we have
today!
So, essentially, we have to wipe the books of this crap! Go
back to a fixed-exchange monetary system, of a Roosevelt type, to
a Glass-Steagall standard in banking, and then we're all right.
But, the problem is, if we do that, we're going to destroy
Wall Street, and London.
HOEFLE: Oh, no! [laughter]
LAROUCHE: Isn't it awful? I mean -- destroying all those
poor people on Wall Street! And those firms, those parasites.
We don't show decent respect for parasites, these days!
STEINBERG: But under NAWAPA, there will be decent jobs for
them, in Idaho, to learn some basic skills.
LAROUCHE: I'm not sure about that! I don't even think
they'll want to live under a system, which actually works to
human benefit! It's contrary to their instincts.
STEINBERG: Lyn, before we end today, the other development
that you forecast, and warned about last February, that's
surfaced just in the last few days, is this eruption of cholera
in, not only Haiti, but also across the Atlantic, in Central
Africa. But, in the Haiti case, this is a totally, manmade
crisis, because, everybody knows that with the availability of
fresh water, and minimal sanitation, you can wipe out a cholera
epidemic very quickly: And here you've got the President of the
United States, who at any moment, could order the U.S. military,
the medical ships, and everything else, in there; this problem
could be solved. But you've got an absolute commitment to let
those people in Haiti die.
LAROUCHE: {It's the intention, to let them die!} The
intention by the President of the United States, to let them die!
Because he's been presented with the facts, by the former
President of the United States --
STEINBERG: Right, exactly.
LAROUCHE: Clinton. He's been presented with this,
explicitly. And he said, "No."
Now, the dying has started, and the President of the United
States, who is going clinically insane, in the meantime, has now
made a decision, {to let this rip!} This puts him in the Hitler
class, together with his own health-care policy, which he
borrowed from Tony Blair. Who is also a no-goodnik.
STEINBERG: Right. Which was borrowed from Hitler,
directly.
LAROUCHE: Exactly: Copied from Hitler. But the British
introduced it to Hitler.
STEINBERG: I mean, it's really striking, that really, in a
few week period, you had, on the one hand, the role of NASA as
part of an international rescue operation down in Chile with the
miners, as an example of what can be done, on very short notice,
when you unleash human creativity, and technological skills, to
solve a life-and-death problem. And then, you've got the
President of the United States, and people in the Congressional
Black Caucus, are cursing him out over the fact that they know
what has to be done in Haiti, and it simply requires the
President, lifting his block on it! So, they know that it's
willful murder!
LAROUCHE: Why don't we admit to the fact that President
will never agree to it?
STEINBERG: Exactly.
LAROUCHE: Okay: Therefore, if you want to do something, you
have to eliminate this President. Send him into the nuthouse,
which is where he belongs, right now.
STEINBERG: Yeah. So, back to John's Malaysian monkey trap.
I guess the message to Joe Biden, is "let go of the nut."
[laughter]
HOEFLE: Yeah! "Let go of the nut, and we'll be on the path
to recovery!"
LAROUCHE: I think that's a good motto for this week, don't
you think? Let go of the nut! Crack the nut! Stop the shell
game.
HOEFLE: Well, that seems like a good place to break.
LAROUCHE: Get out of the monkey trap.
HOEFLE: Yeah, that's your thought for the day. This has
been the LaRouche PAC Weekly Report. Thank you for watching, and
we'll see you next week.
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Oh, so his father is homeschooling the kid. Geeze they could never discuss their differences then could they? Rather lets start a blog that give "trolls" something to get excited over.
Nah, no manipulation here.
Them discussing it at home in no way precludes "YD" from blogging as well. Your problem is that you area Larrouchite who at 65 accepts unquestioningly your messiah and his disciples pronouncements and thus cant fathom someone one fifth your age thinking for himself. I asked Barrett and his kid about your theory. The former wrote:
Don't misunderestimate YD! He's my son, and he isn't being manipulated. He just enjoys arguing. YD has already had several letters to the editor published in local newspapers, mainly on the subject of animal rights. And BTW Len, if you like YD, remember, I'm his homeschool teacher. As I told Hannity, I teach people to think for themselves, not regurgitate whatever some authority figure tells them.October 26, 2010 8:20 PMYD wrote
The only thing that's manipulating me is research and common sense. SCARY twoofers SCARYDon't want to learn any facts, else you might actually learn something!http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?p=6484542#post6484542
IF you scroll up a few posts on the same page youll see that someone said the following about you:
What a stupid woman!
Who do you think is manipulating him, his dad?
What is my theory "Len Brazil" aka "Thinker"
Just as I stated, you fed the trolls and they burped right on que. 911 conspiracy mongers and their trolls the "debunkers" are manipulated nit wits. How else explain the never ending conspiracy theories and those who debunk this worthless garbage? What point does it all serve? It obfuscates the real intent of 911 which if understood would narrow the list of suspects.
Think Len, think.
"In 2007, University of Michigan students brought me and Kevin Ryan to campus to debate 9/11 with one or more of their professors. Thousands of invitations were issued and more than 1000 DVDs given away. The only responses were from two engineering professors, both of whom privately admitted that the World Trade Center was obviously destroyed by controlled demolition, but that stating this in public would threaten their careers. Since no opposition could be found, Kevin Ryan and I staged our own debate, taking turns attacking and defending the 9/11 Commission Report and the NIST Report on the Twin Towers".
I get it this all a distraction to draw attention away from your messiah's take on what happened. Let me guess it was those evil Brits and their lackyboys the Zionists.
Funny the Jewish wife of the leader of an obscure political cult leaves her husband for an Englishmen and nearly 40 years later his followers believe the British and Zionists are at the root of all evil. If someone wrote a non-satirical book along those lines in the early 70's it would have been dismissed as absurdly unrealistic.
From the "Stinker" Len Brazil. Go get those Truthers!
What exactly is my theory?
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What's your take on Herbert Marcuse?
If we accept Jim's "logic" we must assume he and Julia Child were still doing intel work tin the 60's
Marcuse is an interesting character.
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Oh, so his father is homeschooling the kid. Geeze they could never discuss their differences then could they? Rather lets start a blog that give "trolls" something to get excited over.
Nah, no manipulation here.
Them discussing it at home in no way precludes "YD" from blogging as well. Your problem is that you area Larrouchite who at 65 accepts unquestioningly your messiah and his disciples pronouncements and thus can’t fathom someone one fifth your age thinking for himself. I asked Barrett and his kid about your “theory”. The former wrote:
Don't misunderestimate YD! He's my son, and he isn't being manipulated. He just enjoys arguing. YD has already had several letters to the editor published in local newspapers, mainly on the subject of animal rights. And BTW Len, if you like YD, remember, I'm his homeschool teacher. As I told Hannity, I teach people to think for themselves, not regurgitate whatever some authority figure tells them.October 26, 2010 8:20 PMYD wrote
The only thing that's manipulating me is research and common sense. SCARY twoofers SCARYDon't want to learn any facts, else you might actually learn something!http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?p=6484542#post6484542
IF you scroll up a few posts on the same page you’ll see that someone said the following about you:
“What a stupid woman!”
Who do you think is manipulating him, his dad?
What is my theory "Len Brazil" aka "Thinker"
Just as I stated, you fed the trolls and they burped right on que. 911 conspiracy mongers and their trolls the "debunkers" are manipulated nit wits. How else explain the never ending conspiracy theories and those who debunk this worthless garbage? What point does it all serve? It obfuscates the real intent of 911 which if understood would narrow the list of suspects.
Think Len, think.
"In 2007, University of Michigan students brought me and Kevin Ryan to campus to debate 9/11 with one or more of their professors. Thousands of invitations were issued and more than 1000 DVDs given away. The only responses were from two engineering professors, both of whom privately admitted that the World Trade Center was obviously destroyed by controlled demolition, but that stating this in public would threaten their careers. Since no opposition could be found, Kevin Ryan and I staged our own debate, taking turns attacking and defending the 9/11 Commission Report and the NIST Report on the Twin Towers".
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What's your take on Herbert Marcuse?
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You of course avoided the question of just who might be manipulating him. Funny that you see a conspiracy here when not even conspiracy nuts like Fetzer or Barrett do. Fetzer of course knows Barrett and presumably knows the kid too and Barrett of course is far more qualified than you concerning this matter.
Why dont you ask Barrett or his kid about your baseless theory? The formers blog is http://truthjihad.blogspot.com/ and the latters is http://debunkdad.blogspot.com/. Young Debunka also posts at the JREF forum as theshillbarrett http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=188602 (starting with post #19). Actually I think your theory is so silly Ill ask him about it.
Believe what you want. I mentioned nothing of anyone using this kids name. I stated that the whole thing lacked credibility and it still does. I don't care what you, Jim Fetzer or anyone else thinks. I don't think Kevin Barrett's 13 year old son would take it upon himself to "debunk dad" without being manipulated into doing so.
Furthermore I don't care who is manipulating the kid. I find the 911 Truth Movement to be as synthetic as those who have kept the JFK assassination machine rolling all these years.
Your arrogance is amazing you presume to know more about the kid than his own father who is home schooling him. Of course you don't want to touch on "who is manipulating the kid" because there are no likely candidates, is it the mother? Or perhaps his brother who is about 2 years older?
Oh, so his father is homeschooling the kid. Geeze they could never discuss their differences then could they? Rather lets start a blog that give "trolls" something to get excited over.
Nah, no manipulation here.
Afghan opium funding Taliban, etc.
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Anti-Drug Chief Ivanov: Russia Faces Dope "Apocalypse"
December 2, 2010 • 9:24AM
Addressing a conference in Khanty-Mansiysk, western Siberia, Russian Federal Narcotics Control Service chief Victor Ivanov yesterday characterized the drug addiction and death situation in the country as "an apocalypse." Ivanov said he had reached this conclusion after reviewing the latest statistics on deaths from narcotics use. Whereas his agency previously had estimated the annual drug death rate in Russia at 30,000 people, Ivanov said he is forced to conclude that over 100,000 Russians under the age of 30 are dying from drug use each year.
The biggest killer, Ivanov confirmed, is Afghan heroin, followed by dextromethorphan derivatives of over-the-counter medications. There are heroin addiction hot spots throughout the industrial heartland of Russia in western Siberia and the Ural Mountains region.
Ivanov called for convening a special session of the State Council, with the participation of Russian regions, on reducing narcotics demand. He said that Russia has at least 2.5 million full-fledged drug addicts, the majority of them addicted to heroin, with another 3 million people regularly using other drugs, including 500,000 people who are on synthetic narcotics imported from Europe.
Yevgeni Royzman, head of the Drug-free City campaign, also spoke at the event, summarizing the situation as a "narco-catastrophe." He said, "We rank first in the world for heroin consumption, first in the drug addiction rate, and, accordingly, first in drug-related mortality among youth. This is why the country is now experiencing a narco-catastrophe, and any measures that will help our country get out of this situation will be good." Royzman called for emergency institution of visa procedures for travel to Russia from Tajikistan and the Kyrgyz Republic, as well as life terms in prison for drug dealers and mandatory treatment for drug addicts.