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  1. Gore Vidal, weighed in on this controversy, just 53 weeks ago. Joe Kennedy, though, did not have nine living and or competent children to call together in 1960.

    http://women.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/women/the_way_we_live/article6854221.ece

    September 30, 2009

    Gore Vidal: ‘We’ll have a dictatorship soon in the US’

    ...Obama believes the Republican Party is a party when in fact it’s a mindset, like Hitler Youth, based on hatred — religious hatred, racial hatred. When you foreigners hear the word ‘conservative’ you think of kindly old men hunting foxes. They’re not, they’re fascists.” ...

    ...He observes presidential office-holders balefully. “The only one I knew well was Kennedy, but he didn’t impress me as a good president. It’s like asking, ‘What do I think of my brother?’ It’s complicated. I’d known him all my life and I liked him to the end, but he wrecked his chances with the Bay of Pigs and Suez crises, and because everyone was so keen to elect Bobby once Jack had gone, lies started to be told about him — that he was the greatest and the King of Camelot.”

    Today religious mania has infected the political bloodstream and America has become corrosively isolationist, he says. “Ask an American what they know about Sweden and they’d say ‘They live well but they’re all alcoholics’. In fact a Scandinavian system could have benefited us many times over.” Instead, America has “no intellectual class” and is “rotting away at a funereal pace. We’ll have a military dictatorship fairly soon, on the basis that nobody else can hold everything together. Obama would have been better off focusing on educating the American people. His problem is being over-educated. He doesn’t realise how dim-witted and ignorant his audience is. Benjamin Franklin said that the system would fail because of the corruption of the people and that happened under Bush.”

    Vidal adds menacingly: “Don’t ever make the mistake with people like me thinking we are looking for heroes. There aren’t any and if there were, they would be killed immediately. I’m never surprised by bad behaviour. I expect it.”...

    ...There is a trace of thwarted ambition about him. “I would have liked to have been president, but I never had the money. I was a friend of the throne. The only time I envied Jack was when Joe [Kennedy, JFK’s father] was buying him his Senate seat, then the presidency. He didn’t know how lucky he was. Here’s a story I’ve never told. In 1960, after he had spent so much on the presidential campaign, Joe took all nine children to Palm Beach to lecture them. He was really angry. He said, ‘All you read about the Kennedy fortune is untrue. It’s non-existent. We’ve spent so much getting Jack elected and not one of you is living within your income’. They all sat there, shame-faced. Jack was whistling. He used to tap his teeth: they were big teeth, like a xylophone. Joe turned to Jack and he says, ‘Mr President, what’s the solution?’ Jack said, ‘The solution is simple. You all gotta work harder’.” Vidal guffaws heartily...

    Tom , what is the point?

  2. Talk about intellectual limitations. Whether or not they're equity holders in the trust doesnt preclude them from being friends with the Kennedy family and John Jr. in particular. Ownership in the trust doesnt limit their relationship with anyone the Kennedy family included.

    Youre the one who indicated it suggested they knew each other but failed to show that this was the case or that they were equity holders. Neither Tom or I said this precluded anything but you need to resort to strawmen to maintain your position.

    You seem to want us to prove a negative which is near impossible. Could he have been friends with Kennedy? Anything is possible but none of Trousers story can be confirmed there is no evidence Schofeild:

    • knew the rich and famous let alone the Kennedys, let alone John-John, let alone back in 1994
    • knew Daryl Hannah
    • was a pilot in 1999
    • came from a family of dog breeders

    Nor is there any evidence his wife Hannah or the Kennedys or that his ancestors portrait hung in the Kennedy residence.

    It's just another of your consciousness-ramblings.

    Check this out.

    I never indicated it precluded him from knowing John-John or the others but you have failed to produce any evidence he did.

    Or this winner

    I doubt the author actually spent much time trying to find out were Joe Kennedy Srs money came from.

    Researching the origin of the Kennedy wealth was not the purpose of his article. He is right when he says the origin of their wealth is still a mystery.

    Jibberish, that's all we get from you.

    I have no idea what your objection to the 1st sentence was the second was reasonable since we have no idea how much research went into his statement we have no idea of its value. Get back to us when youve found someone who we know researched Joe Sr.s life who says the origin of his fortune is a mystery.

    Here is what you wrote:

    Are you sure they are equity holders in the trust? Were they/was he before 1999 (when John Jr. crashed) or 1994 (when he broke up with Daryl Hannah)? Even if he was, that would at best indicate he MIGHT have known John-Johns mothers ex-stepbrother

    I responded by pointing out your ridiculous "reasoning". There are no conditions regarding Sara Bullock and Brady Schofield, as it relates to Aqudineck Trust, which would preclude them from knowing John F. Kennedy Jr., or anyone else for that matter.

    You and Tom seem to insist that Brady does not move in the same social circles as the Kennedy's and nothing could be further from the truth. Acquidneck Trust, Newport Art Museum, Carnegie Abbey resort, all suggest he travels in the same circles.

  3. Len,

    I don't know the guy. This is so much fun answering your questions.

    I found Brady Schofield partying with Alexander von Auspberg. When I googled that name it turned out he was the son of Sonny Von Bulow, step son to Claus.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Count_Anton_Alexander_von_Auersperg

    I found Brady connected to the Von Hapsburgs through these same Newport/Naples blue blood circles. This section of the Von Hapsburgs family have control of the Faberge Egg.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faberg%C3%A9_egg

    http://www.antiquesatoz.com/habsburg/habsburg-family.htm

    Brady is no "moving van" blue collar guy from Rhode Island.

    We are going in circles you keep claiming to have linked Schofield to various rich people but don’t provide any citations and normally come up blank in Google searches the only link I can find between him and von Auersperg even when using your misspelling is that they were among hundreds of people who donated to the Preservation Society of Newport County. But even if he recently hung out with these people that is scant indication he was a friend of John-Johh’s years ago. Who said he was blue collar?

    Maybe you can check with your family the Oppenheimers and see what they can turn up for you? This seems to be their kind of group.

    Are you sure they are “equity holders in the trust”? Were they/was he before 1999 (when John Jr. crashed) or 1994 (when he broke up with Daryl Hannah)? Even if he was, that would at best indicate he MIGHT have known John-John’s mother’s ex-stepbrother

    There's that classic "say nothing" jibberish again. Let's see if I can translate

    " They are not equity owners and even if they are equity owners that indicates he MIGHT have known John-John's mother's ex step brother". HUH?

    I’m not responsible for your intellectual limitations. I was asking you to document your claim they were “equity holders in the trust”. Even if he and his wife were that would only POSSIBLLY link them to Auchincloss. Auchincloss was “John-John’s mother’s ex-stepbrother”

    "How does any of this jibberish preclude him knowing John Kennedy Jr. ? None of this gobbly gook precludes him from knowing the Obama family, the Schriver family, the Astor family the Cushing family, the Forbes family or the Vanderbilt family. In fact it is more likely than not that he knows all the families listed above. Just as it is very likely to a certainty that all the families above know each other."

    I never indicated it precluded him from knowing John-John or the others but you have failed to produce any evidence he did.

    "I don't know the circumstances of JFK Jr's. decision to fly to Martha Vineyards. I suppose he didnt consider it a big deal. And I don't know that he turned down flight instructors."

    This was documented in the various threads about the crash you can find the links upthread. Can you think of a reason why he would ask a less experienced pilot to fly him? Or why there is no sign of this on the Net or why Schofield who come down to Essex County to fly him? Since you are so convinced by this unlikely tale you might want to ask the FAA for more details about Schofeild’s license it would boost your case if he was actually licensed before the crash and it would be interesting to know how many flight hours he had at the time. I can PM the address.

    And back to your source’s credibility as Tom pointed out there is no sign the Schofeilds were Great Dane breeders let alone renowned ones.

    "Joe Kennedy Sr.- who would have to document it to satisfy you?"

    Anything with a reasonable citation.

    "I have not read a single Joe Kennedy Sr. bio.

    What's wrong with the article? Does it stand out as awful; compared to what, your contributions?"

    I doubt the author actually spent much time trying to find out were Joe Kennedy Sr’s money came from.

    Talk about intellectual limitations. Whether or not they're equity holders in the trust doesnt preclude them from being friends with the Kennedy family and John Jr. in particular. Ownership in the trust doesnt limit their relationship with anyone the Kennedy family included.

    It's just another of your consciousness-ramblings.

    Check this out.

    I never indicated it precluded him from knowing John-John or the others but you have failed to produce any evidence he did.

    Or this winner

    I doubt the author actually spent much time trying to find out were Joe Kennedy Sr’s money came from.

    Researching the origin of the Kennedy wealth was not the purpose of his article. He is right when he says the origin of their wealth is still a mystery.

    Jibberish, that's all we get from you.

  4. ...There is too much dilution for appreciable capital to have come Brady's way. He is a stepson of his father's wife who became president of the family business, he has brothers and sisters to divide any inheritance with, and none of them appeared to be active in that family business. I see no money coming from inheritance, and if JFK, JR. introduced Brady to his future wife, Brady was already in Newport, posturing as a prosperous WASP, leveraging whatever connections he had made at Avon Old Farms and U. Vermont, to a degree sufficient for JFK, Jr. to pay any attention to him. So, whatever he is, he had some sort of a self-made reputation before he met JFK, Jr., and before he met Sarah Bullock. Also, Brady was out of school only ten years before JFK, Jr. died.

    His grandfather went from farming, to owning a restaurant, to assistant country jailer and deputy county sheriff, to first selectman of a small town. He had four sons and a daughter to divide his estate.

    Terry, I stepped back from this discussion because you seem to take the opposite impression of some of my points. As you can see in the excerpt above, of my prior post, I posted that Mr. Schofield was not involved in the family business, a moving and storage company. You've posted twice now that I described Schofield as a moving van worker.

    The research on the family that I shared seems a logical step if we are to narrow the playing field to make some sense out of the references to Schofield posted anonymously on a food industry forum. Searching the domain neptunetrading.com @ http://domainwhitepages.com reveals that Schofield's brother, Bilie, handles the website work.

    Incidently, Neptune does not "own" the three fishing trawlers. They seem to buy the catches of those boats, and they are owned by a business in the state of Washington. All of the Schofield businesses seem to advertise only one telephone number, and some cases, a street address also associated with a 1998 R.I. business filing for a corporation that leases airplanes, Newport Aero, Inc.:

    http://ucc.state.ri.us/CorpSearch/CorpSearchInput.asp

    Now, I suspect that Sarah married a man with a character and personality resembling her dad's. By the way, all of the Westminster, "best in show" Great Danes of the last few years, are listed here, which ones did that food industry forum poster refer to as Schofield bred?

    Is Robert, our Mr. Schofield's father-in-law? He's been running the same road race as "Sarah C." has in the past, participated in, and radaris has Robert and Sarah linked...

    http://radaris.com/p/Sarah/Bullock/RI/

    http://www.justice.gov/tax/usaopress/2005/txdv05200502180919.htm

    US Attorneys Northern District of New York News Release

    - 3 visits - 10:15am

    ROBERT BULLOCK, age 57, a former resident of New Hartford, New York, pled guilty before United States District Judge David N. Hurd to two felony ...

    www.justice.gov/tax/usaopress/.../txdv05200502180919.htm

    1992 Utica Boilermaker 15k

    1992 Utica Boilermaker 15k Utica, NY July 12th, 1992 Runtime Services ...... NY 539/575:M30-34 M#2703 1:31:20 9:48 3322 Sarah C. Bullock New Hartford NY 60/ ...

    www.polymorphs.net/results/.../1992_boilermaker_res.html

    2003 Utica Boilermaker 15k -- NET times

    ... 6:02 183 Brendan P. Brady Amherst NY 52/406:M20-24 M# 167 56:13 6:02 184 ...... 257/486:F40-44 F#1736 1:28:45 9:31 5968 Robert T. Bullock New Hartford ...

    www.boilermaker.com/.../2003_boilermaker_net_res.html

    Brady made his way to Utica to participate in that same race in 1999 and in 2002:

    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=Utica+Boilermaker+15k+%22brady+schofield%22&btnG=Search&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=

    On edit...who are these people, they are using the same telephone number, too!

    http://www.marinerseafood.com/Contacts.htm

    None of this answers the question whether or not Brady is friends with the Kennedy family.

    In your earlier postings you seem to suggest that this type of information proved he did not know the Kennedy's.

  5. James Fetzer's very positive review of LBJ: Mastermind of JFK's Assassination, http://www.lbj-themastermind.com/

    'From first chapter to last, this is a beautifully written, intellectually captivating, and ultimately persuasive account of the role of LBJ in the assassination of JFK. I had more than 100 conversations with Madeleine Duncan Brown, one of his many mistresses but the only one who bore him a son. She, too, became convinced that Lyndon was profoundly involved in the death of his predecessor. On New Year's Eve, six weeks after the assassination, they had a rendezvous at the Driskill Hotel in Austin, where she confronted him with rumors, rampant in Dallas at the time, that he had been involved, since no one stood more to gain. He blew up at her and told her that the CIA and the oil boys had decided that JFK had to be taken out. She wrote about it in her book, TEXAS IN THE MORNING. Her account has been reinforced by Billy Sol Estes, the Texas wheeler-dealer who made mountains of money for Lyndon, Connally, and their buddies, who explains in his book, A TEXAS LEGEND, how he became convinced that Cliff Carter, LBJ's chief administrative assistant, and Malcolm "Mac" Wallace, his personal assassin (by whom Lyndon had a dozen or more persons terminated, including one of his sisters), had been personally involved. E. Howard Hunt, in his "Last Confessions" in ROLLING STONE, explained to his son, St. John, that LBJ, Cord Meyer, William Harvey, David Sanchez Morales, and others in the CIA had been involved in the assassination. For an overview, enter "John F. Kennedy: History, Memory, Legacy", and download Chapter 30. Or visit [...], "Reclaiming History: A Closed Mind Perpetrating a Fraud on the Public", and you will understand the context within which it took place. For a short course, try "Reasoning about Assassinantions" via google. I also recommend James Douglass, JFK AND THE UNSPEAKABLE. Both make profound contributions to the case."

    Robert Morrow's review of this fabulous book about the role of Lyndon Johnson in the JFK Assassination. I highly recommend it for historians, people with an interest in American history and politics, journalists, opinion makers and the public at large. This is a very important book:

    "This book is a MUST READ book for students of the JFK assassination. I have over 200+ books related to the JFK Assassination and LBJ: Mastermind of JFK's Assassination is the #1 book that I recommend to folks to read. As Mr. Fetzer says, read it then read JFK and the Unspeakable: Why he Died and Why it Matters by James Douglass, which covers the CIA angle of the JFK assassination.

    It is time for Americans, historians, journalists, opinion makers to start speaking HONESTLY about Lyndon Johnson and his role in the JFK assassination. Lyndon Johnson was a psychopathic serial killer, who had a personal hit man named Malcolm Wallace. LBJ was literally murdering people over the years to keep a lid on his gargantuan corruption. One good example, would the murder of an Agricultural Dept. bureaucrat Henry Marshall, of Bryan, TX in June, 1961. This murdered was plotted by Lyndon Johnson, his top aide Cliff Carter, Billie Sol Estes and Malcolm Wallace who probably carried it out. Lyndon Johnson had already murdered perhaps 15-20 people by the time LBJ made a dirty deal with the CIA and he got the blood of JFK on his knife.

    The murder of John Kennedy was an elite domestic conspiracy very probably involving Lyndon Johnson, the CIA, Texas oil men such as HL Hunt, Clint Murchison, Sr., high ranking elements of the US military, and high level elitists of the Eastern Establishment, perhaps in including Allen Dulles, Nelson Rockefeller, perhaps even David Rockefeller. The author does not mention the role of George Herbert Walker Bush, but he may very well have been involved, too. In a nutshell, with prodding from the shadow government and rich Texas oil men, and perhaps the Rockefeller intelligence nexus on the East Coast, the CIA murdered John Kennedy. But the most critical element was the foreknowledge, approval and participation of the traitorous Vice President Lyndon Johnson. LBJ and his close friend (and neighbor of 19 years) J. Edgar Hoover of the FBI were in charge of the cover up. Many folks do not know how close Lyndon Johnson and Hoover were, that they were neighbors for 19 years in Wash, DC and that Texas oil men had J. Edgar Hoover in their pocket. Please check out the following passages:

    From Defrauding America, Rodney Stich, 3rd edition 1998 p. 638-639]:

    "The Role of deep-cover CIA officer, Trenton Parker, has been described in earlier pages, and his function in the CIA's counter-intelligence unit, Pegasus. Parker had stated to me earlier that a CIA faction was responsible for the murder of JFK ... During an August 21, 1993, conversation, in response to my questions, Parker said that his Pegasus group had tape recordings of plans to assassinate Kennedy. I asked him, "What group were these tapes identifying?" Parker replied: "Rockefeller, Allen Dulles, JOHNSON of Texas, GEORGE BUSH, and J. Edgar Hoover." I asked, "What was the nature of the conversation on these tapes?"

    I don't have the tapes now, because all the tape recordings were turned over to [Congressman] Larry McDonald. But I listened to the tape recordings and there were conversations between Rockefeller, [J. Edgar] Hoover, where [Nelson] Rockefeller asks, "Are we going to have any problems?" And he said, "No, we aren't going to have any problems. I checked with Dulles. If they do their job we'll do our job." There are a whole bunch of tapes, because Hoover didn't realize that his phone has been tapped. Defrauding America, Rodney Stich, p. 638-639].

    Madeleine Duncan Brown was the most beloved mistress of Lyndon Johnson for 21 years from 1948 until 1969. Madeleine is one of the truth tellers and keys to understanding the ugly reality of the JFK assassination. She had a son Steven Mark with Lyndon in 1950. Madeleine lived from 1925 to 2002 and was madly in love with Lyndon Johnson when she wrote the book Texas in the Morning 24 years after the death of LBJ. She makes some BLOCKBUSTER revelations in this book, such as:

    In the night of 12/31/63 morning of January 1, 1964, just 6 weeks after the JFK assassination, Madeleine asked Lyndon Johnson:

    "Lyndon, you know that a lot of people believe you had something to do with President Kennedy's assassination."

    He shot up out of bed and began pacing and waving his arms screaming like a madman. I was scared!

    "That's bull___, Madeleine Brown!" he yelled. "Don't tell me you believe that ____!"

    "Of course not." I answered meekly, trying to cool his temper.

    "It was Texas oil and those %$%& renegade intelligence bastards in Washington." [said Lyndon Johnson, the new president; Texas in the Morning, p. 189] [LBJ told this to Madeleine on 1/1/64 in the locally famous Driskill Hotel, Austin, TX in room #254. They spent New Year's Eve `64 together here (12/31/63). Room #254 was the room that LBJ used to have rendevous' with his girlfriends - today it is known as the LBJ Room, and rents for $600-1,000/night as a Presidential suite at the Driskill; located on the Mezzanine Level.]

    What Lyndon Johnson did not tell Madeleine was that Texas Oil (read H.L. Hunt, Clint Murchison, Sr) and the CIA (especially the Gen Ed Lansdale, Operation 40/Operation Mongoose crowd) were murdering John Kennedy with the full knowledge, approval and participation of VP Lyndon Johnson.

    Author Phillip Nelson does a fabulous job of detailing the evil and corruption that was the psychopath Lyndon Johnson. Lyndon Johnson was at the CENTER of the JFK assassination and he had plenty of help. I give this book 10 out of 10 stars and it is a MUST READ.

    Robert Morrow Austin, TX 512-306-1510 Contact me at Morrow321@!aol.com and I will send you my "LBJ and CIA killed JFK" file, which dovetails with this fabulous book!

    Robert,

    Any relation to you?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwight_Morrow

  6. Len,

    I don't know the guy. This is so much fun answering your questions.

    I found Brady Schofield partying with Alexander von Auspberg. When I googled that name it turned out he was the son of Sonny Von Bulow, step son to Claus.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Count_Anton_Alexander_von_Auersperg

    I found Brady connected to the Von Hapsburgs through these same Newport/Naples blue blood circles. This section of the Von Hapsburgs family have control of the Faberge Egg.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faberg%C3%A9_egg

    http://www.antiquesatoz.com/habsburg/habsburg-family.htm

    Brady is no "moving van" blue collar guy from Rhode Island.

    Maybe you can check with your family the Oppenheimers and see what they can turn up for you? This seems to be their kind of group.

    Are you sure they are “equity holders in the trust”? Were they/was he before 1999 (when John Jr. crashed) or 1994 (when he broke up with Daryl Hannah)? Even if he was, that would at best indicate he MIGHT have known John-John’s mother’s ex-stepbrother

    There's that classic "say nothing" jibberish again. Let's see if I can translate

    " They are not equity owners and even if they are equity owners that indicates he MIGHT have known John-John's mother's ex step brother". HUH?

    How does any of this jibberish preclude him knowing John Kennedy Jr. ? None of this gobbly gook precludes him from knowing the Obama family, the Schriver family, the Astor family the Cushing family, the Forbes family or the Vanderbilt family. In fact it is more likely than not that he knows all the families listed above. Just as it is very likely to a certainty that all the families above know each other.

    I don't know the circumstances of JFK Jr's. decision to fly to Martha Vineyards. I suppose he didnt consider it a big deal. And I don't know that he turned down flight instructors.

    Joe Kennedy Sr.- who would have to document it to satisfy you?

    I have not read a single Joe Kennedy Sr. bio.

    What's wrong with the article? Does it stand out as awful; compared to what, your contributions?

    It must be a slow week for you.

  7. I don't understand listing someone's ancestors as a way of determining whether person A, knows person B. If you can figure it out then let me know.

    That wasn’t my argument but as far as I understood it Tom was making the case the Kennedys and Schofields walked in different social circles and the claim about the portrait is unlikely to be true

    Being members of Aquidneck Land Trust is not quite the same as swimming at the YMCA. Sara Bullock and Brady are both involved with Aquidneck, maybe they don't know each other either?

    Yes they and hundreds if not thousands of other people are/were members of the “trust” there is no reason to presume they knew Auchincloss let alone the numerous children of his various step siblings.

    Congressman Patrick Kennedy and Brady Schofield were both involved in the "Griswold House". Perhaps they were also unaware of each other in this endeavor too?

    Do you have any evidence to support this claim? Did this supposedly happen before or after the crash? Even if true it would only link Schofield to his brother.

    Why is poster "Trousers" claim most certainly "false"? Please tell me. It makes absolutely no sense to post such a thing. Remember he didnt make this claim here on EF. He was communicating to people in the food industry that have no interest in the Kennedy family. This includes several people like Trouser that know Brady Schofield personally. Their interest in Brady was his role in the multi million dollar rip off of US Foodservice.

    I have no idea why he would make something like that up, perhaps to make himself seem more important. I spelled out why his claim that “Brady was supposed to pilot JFK Jr to Martha's Vineyard on the night of his death” “is almost certainly false” in post 140. To make a long story short: there is no indication on the Net they even knew each other, the former if he was licensed at all at the time was probablly far less experienced and he lived far from NYC.

    http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=16673&view=findpost&p=207788

    Joe Kennedy Sr. wasnt a bootlegger because you don't like LaRouche. Great reasoning Colby, very persuasive.

    Pathetic strawman, it could be true but I have yet to see any solid evidence he was a bootlegger, the only thing you cited was Dope Inc but despite you claim that it offered citations did not provide any documentation in support of that claim.

    I would totally agree with you but there's already evidence they mingle in the same social circles. Schofield and his bride Ms. Bullock are not your run of the mill folks. She is on the board of the International House NY, while Brady hangs with the Von Hapsburgs, Von Bulows, Buckley's, Vanderbilts and Astor families etc. What are you missing here?

    They're not "members" of the Aquidneck Land Trust, like you were a member of the YMCA. They are major financial contributors and equity holders in the trust. They control certain prime land with the idea of keeping it away from public development.

    There is no indication on the "Net" that I know my brother but I assure you I do. Brady did not fly the John Jr. so why would there be a story? The poster Trouser said he was not instrument rated so he decided not to fly.

    Pathetic strawman? Look who's talking. You claim because you don't like my source so therefore it isnt true. Not that's a contraption. Dope, Inc. is over 600 pages and the Kennedy's history is but a part of it.

    You want to reduce the entire argument to finding a source that will call him a bootlegger. That shouldnt be that tough.

    Look at the family history, how did they get their wealth? Apparently the media still doesnt know to this very day. 41 years after the old man died.

    QUOTE:

    Much about the Kennedy family’s fortune remains a mystery, but Patrick Kennedy, D-R.I., provided a glimpse of his own wealth in his latest financial disclosure, which was filed in May but has not been reported.

    It shows Kennedy’s net worth rose last year to more than $6 million, and likely much more than that, according to an analysis by Eyewitness News. His annual income from dividends and other sources was more than $205,006, on top of his congressional salary of $174,000.

    http://www.wpri.com/dpp/news/patrick-kennedy-inherits-dads-millions

  8. Castro is a creature of the Synarchist International movement.

    http://www.tuks.nl/docs/SYNARCHY_MOVEMENT_OF_EMPIRE_BOOK_04.PDF

    Case Study # 3: Ibero-America

    To begin with, the term "Latin America" was a neologism concocted, with British consent, by the family of Napoleon Bonaparte and his nephew, Palmerston creation Napoleon III. It replaced the earlier conventional, appropriately descriptive term, Hispanic America, to the purpose of making a Paris takeover from Madrid, under Napoleon III, less obviously offensive to the victims of that enterprise. With respect to the sensibilities of the history-literate among both Hispanic-Americans and Brazilians, the descriptive term "Ibero-America" is to be preferred in U.S. diplomatic usages, except where the formerly traditional term, "Hispanic America," is explicitly descriptive.

    The majority of the population of the Americas, is concentrated in Ibero-America. As a comparison of 1946-1950 U.S.A. and Argentina standards of living and productivity demonstrates, the productive potential of a large component of the Ibero-America population approaches that of the United States itself. The great economic problems presently existing in Central and South America are chiefly the result of the 1967-1972 abrogation of the Bretton Woods monetary agreements, on the initiatives of Britain and the U.S.A. Nixon administration.

    The vital, regional strategic interest of the United States, under any global circumstance, next to the interest of the U.S. population itself, is the increase of the per-capita physical-productive powers of labor and physical family income of the populations of Ibero-America. The aggregate potential physical output of this hemisphere, during the medium-term, presently exceeds that of today's Asia as a whole!

    What prevents the United States from sponsoring that, its own vital strategic interest? The answer is, partly simply stupidity by Americans, high and low. A more specific problem is the obsessive, "free trade" delusions among the influential faction of followers of the late Friedrich von Hayek's and drug-legalizer Professor Milton Friedman's fascistic, pro-genocidal Mont Pelerin Society, whose Dr. Kevorkian-like use of the word "free," is translated into German vernacular as Vogelfrei (e.g., "the bird (soul) has flown").

    What inside Ibero-America works to similar effect? For one thing, within Ibero-America there are also influential, Thatcherite followers of the fascistic Mont Pelerin Society, such as the influential Michael Novak. Then, there is the leading terrorist organization of Ibero-America, the Sao Paulo Forum, headed by Cuba's leading, France-connected Synarchist, Commandante Fidel Castro.

    To understand the Castro connection, dig out the old U.S. military intelligence files from the 1920s through the 1940s. Look under the heading "Synarchist," "Caribbean Legion," and so forth. Look under the headings "Communist," "Fascist," "Ethnology," "France," "Houston, Texas," "Schlumberger," "Jean de Menil," "Paul Rivet," "M. N. Roy," "Sendero Luminoso," "Mexico," and "Jacques Soustelle." Go forward, then, to the early 1960s. Cross-grid with the 1920s-1930s files, for the references "Soustelle," "OAS," "Assassination Plots Against President Charles deGaulle," "London," "Permindex," "Louis Mortimer Bloomfield," "Jean de Menil," "Rothko Chapel," "Clay Shaw," "Kennedy Assassination," "Permindex connections into the Warren Commission," and so on. All the facts needed to solve the mystery of Fidel Castro, are there either in that cross-gridding of material from established U.S. intelligence files, which this writer has excerpted in the past, or from relevant facts which this writer obtained through his heading special investigations internationally.

    Cross-grid the fruits of that investigation with the action, against the U.S. Government, in support of Colombia's Samper Pizano, from official institutions in London and Paris. Cross-grid with the pro-drug lobby operating within the Inter-American Dialogue, and with the role of those circles around U.S. State Department veteran spook Luigi Einaudi in crafting the 1995 corrupt "Security in the Americas" doctrine issued by the U.S. Department of Defense. Note the lying statements which the Bolivia press recently attributed to visiting U.S. Southern Command General Lawson Magruder.

    A clear picture of the leading elements of the problem appears.

    Fidel Castro, formerly a professed anti-Communist figure in the Synarchist tradition, was funded by the husband, Jean de Menil, of Houston-based Dominique Schlumberger de Menil, notable for her connections, together with her sister, to Paris' Liberation daily, to the careers of Francois and Danielle Mitterrand, and for her associations with Texas' Fort Marfa and Houston's wierdo center, the Rothko Chapel. George Bush (or, perhaps, his English-language translator) might tell more. De Menil funded the purchase of the Granma for Fidel's landing in eastern Cuba, and Fidel later, when the opportunity struck, became a professed Communist. Then, in 1991, the Soviet Union was dissolved; Castro, ever the man of opportunity, reacted like a true Synarchist, according to type; his Colombia drug and dirty-French connections came surging to the fore.

    Suddenly, Fidel Castro was the head of the major international terrorist ring operating in Central and South America, from Chiapas to Patagonia, the Sao Paulo Forum, the Europe-backed "New Age" insurgency force behind the terrorist operations which have virtually taken over Mexico's Chiapas province, a development which represents a major security threat to the United States, and a development which is the center of the current surge of international drug- and weapons-trafficking through Mexico. Fidel's insurgency agent in Venezuela, for example, is the Col. Hugo Chavez whose opinions underwent a miraculous metamorphosis, during his brief vacation spent in a prison cell.

    http://www.larouchepub.com/lar/1996/civil_wars.html

    For years Fidel Castro provided asylum to Robert Vesco.

    http://www.nytimes.com/1995/06/09/world/robert-vesco-fugitive-financier-is-arrested-in-cuba-the-us-says.html

  9. Tom, your reasoning isnt that great. Read the original post again.

    QUOTE:

    Speaking of conspiracies, I understand Brady Schofield has surfaced again this time in the dog breeding business. His family has privately bred Great Danes for three generations. The Schofield family is renowned for their near perfect bitches that win year after year at Westminster. Schofield puppies fetch $2500 to $3500 and there is a six year waiting list for the prize winning puppies. Had it not been for Obama's daughters allergies, it is said one of Schofield's Danes would be the First Dog. Brady was introduced to Obama through the Kennedy family. The Kennedy's and Schofields run in the same social circle in Newport. There is a framed photograph of Brady's great grandfather and two of his Dogs which hangs on the wall of the main staircase at the Kennedy's Hyannis compound.

    __________________

    Trouser

    I see no reason this could not be true. Why are you hung up (no pun intended) on a picture in the Hyannis Port compound of the Kennedy's? The families are either friends or they are not friends.

    Schofield and Bullock run in exactly the same social circles as the Kennedy family. You can find Schofield and III connected through the Aquidneck Land Trust. Schofield and William F. Buckley sat on the board of some Art Museum. You make him out to be a "moving van" worker.

    Ironic Terry that you would find fault with someone else's "reasoning".

    Since "Trousher"'s claim that the Schofield was supposed to fly Kennedy is most certainly false there is no reason to believe the undocumented claims of the anonymous poster.

    And but you failed to provide any evidence they new each other. It seems that some members of of the Schofield family were members of the Aquidneck Land Trust or at least participated in some of its events and that John-John's mother's step-brother was on its board of advisors, to infer from that John Jr and Brady Schofield probably knew each other is wishful thinking. When I was a kid my family belonged to the 92nd St. Y, we did not know any of the directors or advisors let alone their distant relatives.

    Oh and we're still waiting for you to document your claim his grandfather was a bootlegger, sorry but the undocumented claims of your messiah's disciples don't count.

    I don't understand listing someone's ancestors as a way of determining whether person A, knows person B. If you can figure it out then let me know.

    Being members of Aquidneck Land Trust is not quite the same as swimming at the YMCA. Sara Bullock and Brady are both involved with Aquidneck, maybe they don't know each other either?

    Congressman Patrick Kennedy and Brady Schofield were both involved in the "Griswold House". Perhaps they were also unaware of each other in this endeavor too?

    Why is poster "Trousers" claim most certainly "false"? Please tell me. It makes absolutely no sense to post such a thing. Remember he didnt make this claim here on EF. He was communicating to people in the food industry that have no interest in the Kennedy family. This includes several people like Trouser that know Brady Schofield personally. Their interest in Brady was his role in the multi million dollar rip off of US Foodservice.

    Joe Kennedy Sr. wasnt a bootlegger because you don't like LaRouche. Great reasoning Colby, very persuasive.

  10. Terry, I think the odds are slim that Joe Kennedy would hang a portrait of Seth Schofield, a UK immigrant dirt farmer from Tolland County, CT in a prominent spot in his Hyannis home. Brady's mother is Amelia Julia Kaschuluk. Do you think the portrait alleged to hang in Hyannis is of her grandfather?

    Since the odds that JFK, Jr. knew Brady Schofield through his father's relationship with Brady's family seem slim,

    then it seems important to find out how and why JFK, Jr. did take notice of him. If any of the details posted on those food industy forums are true, Brady had to rise from a level of being a son of a middle class, moving business owner, to a man who knew JFK, Jr., had money and political connections, and accomplish this between 1989 and the time JFK, Jr. introduced him to Daryl Hannah's cousin, Sarah C. Bullock, and we know JFK, Jr. died in July, 1999.

    There seem to only be two mysterious things related to Brady's criminal and civil court encounters. The sentencing judge in the criminal case gave no reasons for not imposing a prison sentence. Can we agree that Brady entered a plea, avoiding the trouble and expense to the government of a trial, and Marth Stewart, in similar circumstances, elected to expose herself to an addtional charge of perjury, refused to cooperate to avoid trial, and still received a rather light sentence, although she was briefly imprisoned, and Brady was not?

    I posted a link presumably showing Brady transferring a Naples, FL asset, but so far we know no details as to why he was released as a defendant in the civil suit. Maybe Dawn can offer an opinion or some information from court documents.

    Who let Brady in? He didn't start out with money or connections. He had to earn them or to ingratiate himself in with bigger players. This usually happens through family connections and by attending "good" schools. He seems like a front man, low key aside from the Naples, FL and Newport, RI social scenes, and the publicity surrounding his conviction and sentencing. For someone from an alleged family breeding such highly sought after Great Danes for nearly a century, where are the other references to this?

    Tom, your reasoning isnt that great. Read the original post again.

    QUOTE:

    Speaking of conspiracies, I understand Brady Schofield has surfaced again this time in the dog breeding business. His family has privately bred Great Danes for three generations. The Schofield family is renowned for their near perfect bitches that win year after year at Westminster. Schofield puppies fetch $2500 to $3500 and there is a six year waiting list for the prize winning puppies. Had it not been for Obama's daughters allergies, it is said one of Schofield's Danes would be the First Dog. Brady was introduced to Obama through the Kennedy family. The Kennedy's and Schofields run in the same social circle in Newport. There is a framed photograph of Brady's great grandfather and two of his Dogs which hangs on the wall of the main staircase at the Kennedy's Hyannis compound.

    __________________

    Trouser

    I see no reason this could not be true. Why are you hung up (no pun intended) on a picture in the Hyannis Port compound of the Kennedy's? The families are either friends or they are not friends.

    Schofield and Bullock run in exactly the same social circles as the Kennedy family. You can find Schofield and Hugh D. Aunchinloss III connected through the Aquidneck Land Trust. Schofield and William F. Buckley sat on the board of some Art Museum. You make him out to be a "moving van" worker.

    I don't know why you're running through all these ancesters of Schofield, acting as if this means anything. Look at Joe Kennedy's family. Shanty town Irish mafia. Nothing royal about him at all.

  11. Terry, that Jacobs family connection deserves some checking out. By the way, have you seen this? Nice list of linked footnotes.: http://www.thecityedition.com/Pages/Archive/2010/Yosemite_Trekker/Yosemite_Contract_Print.html

    Both Bush admins. seemed to really want to put the National Park's concessions into the Jacobs's laps...

    I think the background of Brady Schofield comes down to following the money. How did he get started? His background is middle class, and his father's business was probably netting no more than $200k annually, when he died in 1996.

    http://www.google.com/search?q=schofield+bay+state+moving+brady&hl=en&safe=off&tbs=nws:1,ar:1&source=lnt&sa=X&ei=2CGqTOnFPMH6lwfS_LDuDQ&ved=0CB0QpwU

    SCHOFIELD. RUSSELL SCHOFIELD

    - Hartford Courant - Jun 20, 1996

    He was the President and owner of Bay State Moving Systems, Inc., ... four sons, Billie Schofield of Nashua, NH, Brady Schofield of Newport, RI, ..

    http://www.allbusiness.com/specialty-businesses/1144468-1.html

    Bay State Moving Systems: Life in the Fast Lane

    By O'Brien, George

    Publication: BusinessWest

    Date: Wednesday, November 1 2000

    ..Describing her business as fickle, enormously competitive, and marked by razorthin margins, Schofield, president of Bay State Moving Systems Inc. in Chicopee said..

    ...Suffice it to say that enough things are going right for this family-owned company for it to record some impressive growth numbers - an increase in revenues from $5 million to nearly $20 million in the past five years - and land a spot on the Super 60 fist for total revenue.

    Meanwhile, the company is set to break ground on a new $2.5 million warehouse in Sutton, Mass. to better serve customers in the Worcester area....

    2005: Bay State moving sold by Brady's stepmother, Elizabeth:

    http://www.williambmeyer.com/whatsnew/expandsrecords.html

    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=2008+scofield+%2260+haynes+circle%22+chicopee&btnG=Search&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=

    [PDF]JANUARY 2009

    File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - Quick View

    60 Haynes Circle. Chicopee, MA 01020. Amount: $1075000. Buyer: Haynes Realty LLC. Seller: Elizabeth B. Schofield. Date: 11/24/08. 77 Labelle Dr. Chicopee ...

    http://businesswest.com/pdf/real-estate-january2009.pdf

    There is too much dilution for appreciable capital to have come Brady's way. He is a stepson of his father's wife who became president of the family business, he has brothers and sisters to divide any inheritance with, and none of them appeared to be active in that family business. I see no money coming from inheritance, and if JFK, JR. introduced Brady to his future wife, Brady was already in Newport, posturing as a prosperous WASP, leveraging whatever connections he had made at Avon Old Farms and U. Vermont, to a degree sufficient for JFK, Jr. to pay any attention to him. So, whatever he is, he had some sort of a self-made reputation before he met JFK, Jr., and before he met Sarah Bullock. Also, Brady was out of school only ten years before JFK, Jr. died.

    His grandfather went from farming, to owning a restaurant, to assistant country jailer and deputy county sheriff, to first selectman of a small town. He had four sons and a daughter to divide his estate.

    If you're assuming I think there is a connection with John Jr's. plane crash and Brady Schofield then think again. That was not my purpose. I just thought the comment was quite interesting especially considering Brady's criminal role in US Foodservice and it's near collapse.

    It appears he is politically connected otherwise how explain cutting him loose. He ran the front companies, the re billing scam. There had to be several billion siphoned out of the business over 3-4 years.

    You also need to give me your definition of "middle class" Schofield was selling a $1.6 mansion in Newport, a $400K Piper, property in Naples. I think he's a tad bit above middle class.

    You also find him playing "clay court" tennis at some of the most exclusive resorts in Florida. Then there is always Carnegie Club owned by British billionaire Peter de Savary.

    I would say he's got alot more money than you think. How he got it might make for an interesting discussion.

  12. There is nothing in Brady Schofield's family background to support a multi-generational relationship with the Kennedy family, and since the same sources state that JFK, Jr. knew Brady's future wide, Sarah C. Bullock through JFK, Jr.'s association with Daryl Hannah, it would seem there is not much point in looking into the background of Sarah. Here is the other information persuading me that Schofield is a dead end lead.:

    I am not sure I follow you here Tom. You pasted the post about a picture of Brady Schofield's father or grandfather hanging on the wall at the Kennedy compound. In fact it could very well be true. The information you brought back doesnt in any way preclude the possibility that the two families are close.

    And I believe the poster called Sara Bullock "the cousin of Darly Hannah". I have also looked at the possibility that Ms. Bullock was part of the "Calvin Bullock" family. The Pilgrim Society and all.

    Sara Bullock sat on the board of the "International House of NY", with such notables as Daisy and Paul Soros, along with a few other names that echo through recent political history. Donald Gibson in his book on the JFK assassination gives prominent converage to the International House as it relates to those interests involved in the murder of JFK.

    Schofield/Bullock seem to fit in quite nice with the blue bloods of Newport, Newburyport, NYC etc. The "eastern establishment".

  13. I'm not sure why there would be a public story on this. It's actually a "non story", it never happened.

    The poster calling himself "Trouser" indicated he was close (a supplier) to certain key individuals at US Foodservice who were indicted for inflating profits by $800 million. This "ENRON" type scam included Brady Schofield who ran the "front companies" that siphoned off all the cash from the inflated invoices. "Trouser" had indicated he knew Brady personally. From what I can check he has been accurate so far. I do not know if Schofield knows the Kennedy family. But it's not a huge reach if it is true.

    I am not sure why lying about the Kennedy family connection makes any sense. It has no significance to food service people gossiping about the near bankruptcy of US Foodservice.

    I do believe you can find a link between Brady Schofield and Congressman Patrick Kennedy around the "Griswold House". Congressman Kennedy wanted the house to be classified as a national historical property. John NA Griswold ironically enough played a role in the British opium trade to China through his company, acting in concert with the British East India Company.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_N._A._Griswold_House

    In recent years large foodservice distribution companies have been taken over by what appears to be organized crime. This includes US Foodservice as well as a multi billion dollar "custom" food distribution company called "Ameriserve" out of Dallas TX.

    Ameriserve filed chapter 11 bankruptcy around February 2000 or 2001. The CEO was a guy named "John Victor Holten" a Norwegian ex patriot. Forbes magazing commented that Holten was a "mysterious" Norwegian that no one really knew.

    A quick google search shows that he married into the Jacobs family in 1983. Louie Jacobs ran the money laundering outfit known as Emprise/ SportsSystem and now go by the name of Delaware North Company. It looks like papa Jacobs gave his son in law Apcoa Parking back in 1989 and is now known as Standard Parking (??). Many of the Kennedy Justice Department organized crime operatives went to work for Jacobs after leaving government.

    http://www.nytimes.com/1983/04/10/style/john-v-holten-is-wed-to-lisann-jacobs.html

    So finding Brady Schofield to be close to the Kennedy family is not that much of a stretch. Schofield also runs containerized cargo vessels under his company "Neptune Trading". Like a mini East India Company?

  14. The poster calling himself "Trouser" stated that Schofield "did not fly" the Kennedy entourage because according to the poster he was not instrument rated.

    Schofield is linked to the Kennedy clan. And I don't think anyone is making up stories about his family ties. All they stated on that industry website is that you can find Schofield hanging with the Von Hapsburgs, Von Bulows, Kennedy's and other wealthy families from that area.

    The companies he supposedly owned, were front companies set up by US Foodservice that acted as 3rd party billing companies. Vendors to US Foodservice would be told by the company to send their invoices to Brady Schofield. Brady would then "inflate" the cost of goods and rebill to the various US Foodservice operating companies. This created a huge spread between what was owed vendors and what the US Foodservice operating company paid Brady Schofield. The difference in actual price versus inflated price was likely in the billions of dollars given the turnover of product from a company as large as US Foodservice.

    He was named in a civil suit brought by Waterbury Hospital, and other customers of US Foodservice. It was a class action suit. Amazingly Schofield was dropped from the suit , even though he ran these fake 3rd party billing operations.

  15. If you want to understand how much the media hates the notion of any Kennedy being elected to public office again, consider that, when Caroline was a shoo-in to be named Senator from New York a few years back, the powers that be rose up against her in a solid front. How else do you explain the articles which appeared everywhere, following her awkward interview, in which the transcript was published, complete with all her "uhs" and "you knows" intact? Kind of like when CBS aired that hit piece on Ted Kennedy back in 1980, after he decided to challenge Carter, and made certain to air all his "ers" and "uhs" for the audience to enjoy.

    It wans't just the MSM, it was also the blogosphere which rose up against Caroline. This is what convinced me that the blogosphere was going to be little different than the MSM. The following column really ticked off Jane Hamsher. As it shoudl have.

    http://www.ctka.net/2009/hamsher.html

    That is an excellent column, Jim. Great info about JFK not being on the side of the colonialists; most do NOT know this. A lot of the "young" folks don't know much about John Kennedy. I wonder when the MSM will start talking honestly about the JFK assassination. Just last night I heard Chris Matthews on Hardball pushing the Big Lie about Lee Harvey Oswald being the lone nut killer of John Kennedy. [btw, Chris Matthews a friend of Richard Haass, head of CFR, and Haass' wife is an editor of Chris Matthews' book ...]

    A lot of the "young folks" don't know much about Lyndon Johnson either. They think he was some "great" man who gave black folks civil rights in 1964-1965 and was some sort of innocent bystander in the JFK assassination and cover up. They need to read LBJ: Mastermind of JFK's Assassination by Phillip Nelson: http://www.lbj-themastermind.com/ .

    This was after Lyndon Johnson had done practically nothing for civil rights under JFK and was sabotaging the Kennedy's policy agenda on all fronts, domestic and foreign.

    Then, in my opinion, Lyndon Johnson and the CIA (and the shadow government) murdered John Kennedy. And the first thing Lyndon Johnson did, to pacify the Left who was so deeply suspicious of his possible role in the JFK assassination, was to come out for civil rights out of the blue.

    Didnt LBJ sign the Voting Rights Act into law? You really have to do better Robert.

    You wonder when main stream media will start talking honestly about the assassination? You mean when will they blame LBJ?

    Your job- if you choose to accept- is to do the Len Colby smackdown. Or so I have been told.

    Len: Many former candidates have been elected with little more than a law degree. It was that she has written on the Constitution that puts her in a better position, many candidates don't have a clue about the document they swear to uphold.

    And John John was blown out of the sky. But I don't expect you to do your homework.

    For those interested in some gossip about the JFK Jr. plane crash. It was reported that a Newport resident "Brady Schofield" was to pilot Jr. and his wife to Martha Vineyards the night of the crash.

    Brady Schofield became somewhat infamous in Y2003 when he helped to almost bankrupt the second largest foodservice distribution company US Foodservice.

    The copied post comes from a popular industry website that has spent hours and hours discussing the near collapse of US Foodservice.

    QUOTE:

    trouser

    Member

    Registered: Aug 21, 2008

    Posts: 25

    Aug 31, 2010 at 10:06 AM Reply with quote #15

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    Schofields wife Sarah is the cousin of Daryl Hannah. Brady was introduced to her by JFK Jr. Brady was supposed to pilot JFK Jr to Martha's Vineyard on the night of his death but Brady was not instrument rated and refused to fly his plane. JFK Jr. ultimately flew his own plane visual and the rest is history. Google "JFK's Funeral" and you can see images of Brady and his wife in sunglasses graveside. Brady indeed does own three fishing boats - with partners - and it is rummored they have filed claims with BP for damages from the oil spill even though they fish off the New England coast, far, far from the gulf. Did the White House approve these claims I wonder???? Also note that Governor Arnold Schwarzenager used Schofields mansion in Rhode Island as a summer retreat with wife Maria. Rhode Island swarmed with Kennedy's when Brady lived there. Anybody remember Vincent Albert "Buddy" Cianci, Jr?????? Don't mess with Schofield. He is connected. Martha Stewart did more jail time.

    __________________

    Trouser

    Brady Schofield plea agreement with SEC

    http://www.justice.gov/usao/nys/pressreleases/June06/schofieldpleapr.pdf

    Brady Schofield partying at Peter De Savary's "Save the Bay" fundraiser.

    http://www.newyorksocialdiary.com/partypictures/2004/08_16_04/partypictures08_16_04.php

    Brady Schofield receiving his golf award at Peter De Savary's Carnegie Course from former President G HW Bush.

    http://www.carnegienewport.com/newsletter_pdf/Aug_Courier_17lr.pdf

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    I have mixed feelings about threads like this, as I am purely interested in what facts are still unresolved about the JFK Assassination, that are still not known.

    The Kennedy's silence, which has been about a topic for discussion for decades, and understandably so, ultimately reveals the internal dynamics of a political

    family that still is influencing policy in the government and our culture, however slight.

    see Robert Kennedy Jr.'s efforts to combat economic terrorism and the controversial Global warming debate, one of many political gulfs between the left and

    the right, not unlike the current controversy over Darwinism, and intelligent design.

    BTW is anyone on the forum keeping up with wacky Christine O'Donnell...lol

    The issue of conspiracy regarding the assassinations of Pres. John F. Kennedy, Sen Robert F. Kennedy and the death of John F Kennedy Jr., as far as

    the Kennedy family goes, is a no-win proposition for them.

    Why?

    Because the official version of history is that of those three assassinations the answer, like it or not for the American politico/media sometimes

    known as "the epicenter of short attention span theater"

    is.....

    1. Oswald

    2. Sirhan

    3. tragic plane crash

    Whether that is true or not, to a degree is not the issue. The issue for the Kennedy's is that this is not 1963, the dedication to reality crowd, [scott Peck, anyone]

    non-believers of lone-nut land seem to not understand, is that on a mass media level if every Kennedy openly spoke of their possible belief, [do we really know what they currently believe?] that, at least the JFK and RFK assassinations were conspiracy's, the Kennedy family would be finished as a force for change in our culture, because the same politicos/media structure previously referenced would be saying that "they have truly went off the deep end," with the same resultant endgame that does not take a rocket scientist to fathom where that scenario ends.

    Another reason is that some of the deeper aspects of the JFK assassination, which are not irrelevant to the full story of the assassination

    have to do with Joseph Kennedy Sr's relationship to organized crime, which is not a myth, and was certainly not a myth in 1963.

    it provided a lot of grist for the windmill of animus towards the group of American's that despised the Kennedy family.

    Robert,

    Just who pushes this Global Warming "hoax" and what are the underlying axioms? Is it not that there are too many people? Is that not the crux of Global Warming and the green movemen?

    I am not surprised to see a Kennedy pushing this nonsense. Really it is a genocidal policy to reduce the worlds population.

  17. Do you really think anyone fails to notice you resort to insults (cracks about my dad and/or GG in my case) when you are otherwise hard up for a reply? Get back to us when you have evidence -other than the unsubstantiated claims of mobsters (decades after the fact) and your messiah's disciples - that Joe Sr. was a bootlegger.

    Do you really think I am going to fetch for you? I told you before do your own fetching. Your opinion is of no concern to me.

    Absurd for 2 reasons:

    - My whole point is that there is little or any hard evidence Joe Sr. was a bootlegger, how exactly am I supposed to find something that (IMO) doesn’t exist?

    - You are the one who made the claim therefore it is incumbent on you to back it up. You cited Dope Inc. but despite your claims to the contrary, the book provided no evidence.

    Yes Len there is no "hard" evidence. Joe Kennedy was a New England shoe cobbler.

  18. LOL - I guess Terry is so dim she fails to understand there is no contradiction between saying something could happen but has not happened.

    You're always anticipating a "counter punch", and that's why you contradict yourself. It's a common feature of your "consciousness-ramblings".

  19. We will see what happens with this. The media often times creates these kind of provocations so they can morph their "talking heads" into new characters. It's kind of like professional wrestling, where one day the bad guy flips sides and becomes a good guy. The crowd cheers the new good guy forgetting that just two weeks ago they hated this character.

    I am reminded of CNN's Lou Dobbs who in the late 1990's was one of the biggest cheerleaders for the "New Economy". This was the period where Sir Alan Greensperm was "inflating" the NASDAQ to unbelieveable levels. I think the NASDAQ bubble reached 5,000 point level before collapsing. Dobbs left CNN before the 2000-2001 collapse of all those fake internet stocks.

    He then returned to CNN as a "leader of the common man", running stories of Wall Street greed, illegal immigration and the like. Every one of his rabid viewers forgot that Lou was a leading media spokesperson for the very interests that had ruined their jobs, living standards, etc.

  20. Do you really think anyone fails to notice you resort to insults (cracks about my dad and/or GG in my case) when you are otherwise hard up for a reply? Get back to us when you have evidence -other than the unsubstantiated claims of mobsters (decades after the fact) and your messiah's disciples - that Joe Sr. was a bootlegger.

    Do you really think I am going to fetch for you? I told you before do your own fetching. Your opinion is of no concern to me.

  21. Sorry for interupting, but I just have to say, you guys just crack me up. Thank you. Please don't stop.

    Glad to serve as enter or infotainment

    Don't stop there, why don't you show him your musical hot dog eating act? Now that's entertainment. The fact that it's classified as "art" by the ACLU and protected under the first amendment ought to impress John that much more.

  22. Huh? What are you rambling about now, Len? The USG is NOT an "organization" in the same sense that Wiki Leaks is an organization. Apples and Oranges. Moreover, you are playing both sides of the fence. In one breath you said that the critics of Wiki Leaks are unlikely to get anyone killed, thus implying that Wiki Leaks' revelations run such a risk-- and in the next breath you said you are unaware of any documented or even alleged cases that Wiki Leaks has caused anyone to be killed. Wow, you said two things which cancelled each other out.

    And, you outed yourself...AGAIN! Perhaps, you need not worry about enemies like Wiki Leaks... what, with friends like yourself--who needs them?

    Moreover, you are playing both sides of the fence. In one breath you said that the critics of Wiki Leaks are unlikely to get anyone killed, thus implying that Wiki Leaks' revelations run such a risk-- and in the next breath you said you are unaware of any documented or even alleged cases that Wiki Leaks has caused anyone to be killed. Wow, you said two things which cancelled each other out.

    That's a very common tactic by Colby. You may notice a great number of his sentences are structured in just this way. It's literally jibberish.

    Reminds me of this SNL character

  23. Dope Inc was given away sometimes in exchange for a donation? Frank, is that you? :lol:

    The LaRouchebots at the lit tables give stuff away but press for a donation if you take stuff. I thought I remembered them offering Dope Inc in the 70s and 80s but I could be mistaken it was a long time ago.

    But enough of this tangent, can you cite any evidence Joe Kennedy Sr. was a bootlegger?

    Trying to organize the population is not quite the same as staging a GG Allin concert where the audience gets to watch GG eat a hotdog out of another mans arse. The latter is behavior protected by the ACLU :lol:

    I provided you evidence, if you don't like it then you'll have to do your own homework. Dope, Inc. covers the Kennedy's starting on page 441 "The Kennedy's Organized Crime in Government". The footnotes are all there.

    If you wish a copy there is one available (1992 edition) on Ebay for $43.95.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/DOPE-INC-The-Book-Drove-Kissinger-Crazy-3-/390243120530?pt=US_Nonfiction_Book&hash=item5adc4d7592

    I'm calling you on your lame bluff. Obviously you know I'm not going to buy that POS. It's online and you know it because you've provided links a few times. The book in its entirety can be found at the link below. Please quote any passages where Kennedy's involvement with bootlegging is spelled out and DOCUMENTED (I.E. supported by citations. Odd that a book you think is so important has been out of print for so long.

    http://www.conspiracyresearch.org/forums/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=266

    Dumb cracks that only you seem to get don't interest me.

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