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Perhaps in your 1st post you MEANT to say that you believed it was Barrett’s son but thought someone was putting him up to it but nothing in that post supports such an interpretation. Rather import of “This whole scenario with the Barret's son lacks credibility. I mean how many son's would take their dad to task like this?” is that you thought it was someone else.
To further prove the point I used you and your father as an example. Would you "debunk" the story that your father "couldnt find evidence linking his product to cancer"? Ridiculous.There is no reason to assume that my relation with my dad is analogous to Barrett’s with his son but I did not believe my dad’s assertion that there was no proof smoking caused cancer. I did and still do believe that he believed this was the case just as “DebunkDad” doesn’t doubt his father is sincere. Of course I never challenged my dad publicly but they was no Internet when I was growing up.
You of course avoided the question of just who might be ‘manipulating’ him. Funny that you see a conspiracy here when not even conspiracy nuts like Fetzer or Barrett do. Fetzer of course knows Barrett and presumably knows the kid too and Barrett of course is far more qualified than you concerning this matter.
Why don’t you ask Barrett or his kid about your baseless theory? The former’s blog is http://truthjihad.blogspot.com/ and the latter’s is http://debunkdad.blogspot.com/. “Young Debunka” also posts at the JREF forum as “theshillbarrett” http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=188602 (starting with post #19). Actually I think your theory is so silly I’ll ask him about it.
Believe what you want. I mentioned nothing of anyone using this kids name. I stated that the whole thing lacked credibility and it still does. I don't care what you, Jim Fetzer or anyone else thinks. I don't think Kevin Barrett's 13 year old son would take it upon himself to "debunk dad" without being manipulated into doing so.
Furthermore I don't care who is manipulating the kid. I find the 911 Truth Movement to be as synthetic as those who have kept the JFK assassination machine rolling all these years.
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One out of every 34 Americans who earned wages in 2008 earned absolutely nothing -- not one cent -- in 2009.
The stunning figure was released earlier this month by the Social Security Administration, but apparently went unreported until it appeared today on Tax.com in a column by Pulitzer Prize-winning tax reporter David Cay Johnston.
It's not just every 34th earner whose financial situation has been upended by the financial crisis. Average wages, median wages, and total wages have all declined -- except at the very top, where they leaped dramatically, increasing five-fold.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/10/25/income_inequality_statistics_tax_code__n_773392.h tml
The tabulations, staggering as they may be, are only half of half of picture.
Behind the official 10 percent unemployment (which is probably somewhere closer to 22 percent), are the stories of millions of individuals who are struggling to get by or are coming to terms with a future of lower wages and a life with less.
"60 Minutes" profiled the underemployed and unemployed on Sunday in a piece titled "The 99ers."
Among the most troubling stories: a financial analyst unemployed for two years and living in a stranger's attic and a former office manager who collects bottles and cans to get by.
Play video at end of story from 60 Minutes.
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I'll make it simple for you.
You claimed that what I posted was not credible but it was true. I gave you a link that verified my claim but you were too lazy to take a look.
I never made any such claim. I said I doubt this 13 yr old kid took it upon himself to go after his dad like this.
Look at you. A 45 year old simpleton who claims your dad was never able to find a link between cigarette smoking and cancer.
See the difference?
If you can remember what you wrote you should take a look before making false claims about you did or didn't say. You wrote:
"This whole scenario with the Barret's son lacks credibility. I mean how many son's would take their dad to task like this?There's great irony with Len Colby bringing this BS forward. It's quite funny actually"Who do you think is behind him going "after his dad like this"? He lives at home with his dad and was 12 when he started.
Resorting to name calling and attacking my dad is a sure sign you know your loosing the debate.
There is no debate. My first comment is consistent with my previous post. I do not believe a 13 year old kid would attack his father without being manipulated.
To further prove the point I used you and your father as an example. Would you "debunk" the story that your father "couldnt find evidence linking his product to cancer"? Ridiculous.
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There is nothing new here I don't know why Watson is pretending there is the paper was released a year and a half ago. The University of Copenhagen in no way endorsed the paper or its findings. By "propelled back under the national spotlight" Watson seems to mean that "wtc collapse" was the top search term on Google one day.
The authors had to resort to paying several hindered dollars to get the paper published in an obscure for profit journal that does follow standard peer review procedures.
If this has already been reported then accept my apologies.
Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet.com
Friday, October 15, 2010
Evidence indicating that the collapse of the World Trade Center was a controlled demolition has been propelled back under the national spotlight following the University of Copenhagen’s announcement that dust obtained from the rubble of the twin towers contains evidence of highly explosive material.
More gibberish.
Did experts find explosive materials or not?
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I'll make it simple for you.
You claimed that what I posted was not credible but it was true. I gave you a link that verified my claim but you were too lazy to take a look.
I never made any such claim. I said I doubt this 13 yr old kid took it upon himself to go after his dad like this.
Look at you. A 45 year old simpleton who claims your dad was never able to find a link between cigarette smoking and cancer.
See the difference?
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I believe Jim Jones was the leading "vote getter" for the Carter/Mondale ticket in the San Fran/bay area. He was recognized by Mondale and/or Carter for the work he did on behalf of their campaign.
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His son's response to his dad's post
This whole scenario with the Barret's son lacks credibility. I mean how many son's would take their dad to task like this?
There's great irony with Len Colby bringing this BS forward. It's quite funny actually.
You are a true crackpot, even Fetzer acknowledges it is Barrett's son. If you'd bothered to read Barrett's reply you'd see that he signed it "Love Dad"
Something bothering you Colby? I think you get my message.
If your "message" was that you jump to conclusions and insinuate things without making a minimal effort to verify your suspicions then I got it 'loud and clear'. But since I doubt that's what it was I'm in the dark.
More gibberish.
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If this has already been reported then accept my apologies.
Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet.com
Friday, October 15, 2010
Evidence indicating that the collapse of the World Trade Center was a controlled demolition has been propelled back under the national spotlight following the University of Copenhagen’s announcement that dust obtained from the rubble of the twin towers contains evidence of highly explosive material.
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Your recollection was faulty
"The couple's co-workers became suspicious when they did not show up at their jobs Monday morning. A secretary at Ms. Gilbert's firm called a handyman who had a key to the house and asked him to check on the couple. He called police after finding the bodies."
http://articles.baltimoresun.com/1994-05-18/news/1994138002_1_gilbert-howard-hughes-co-workers
-No, mention of an alarm.
-The "handyman" not the security company called the cops
-He had a key but there is no mention of him using it
-Even if he used they key Williams could have entered and exited though a window or another door or could have locked the door to delay discovery of his crime
No my recollection isnt faulty. The article may be in error but then again the information you just posted may also be in error. Or there may be more than one version as is typical in these kind of cover up.
He did use a key and according to the Baltimore Sun this set off an alarm.
So you claim, you have yet to produce any evidence to that effect.
Now you got Williams going in and out of a window, or entering this door or that door. It's all speculation on your part.In response to your undocumented claims. Even if they said the door was locked your claim that the thief must have locked it was speculation.
The fact that their alarm went off when the handyman let himself in is highly suspicious. It means the killer(s) would have had to reset it.Until you document this claim it isn't a fact. As you said "The facts shouldnt be that hard to confirm or refute." all you have to do is search through your browser's history till find the supposed article
I like the way you throw the word "evidence" around. The higher court ruled their was NO EVIDENCE to support a burglary conviction, meaning there was NO PROOF the defendant was ever at the scene of the murder. Furthermore they never produced a witness or a murder weapon. Your response to this lack of evidence "so what he got convicted and many murder defendants have been convicted with no evidence".
You should be more careful. Finding citations on the internet is not evidence. Imagine someone using your blogging as confirmation of some controversy.
Colby's thirst for evidence:
Even if true the same court upheld his 2nd conviction. Lots of murders are convicted without murder weapons or eyewitnesses.
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Your recollection was faulty
"The couple's co-workers became suspicious when they did not show up at their jobs Monday morning. A secretary at Ms. Gilbert's firm called a handyman who had a key to the house and asked him to check on the couple. He called police after finding the bodies."
http://articles.baltimoresun.com/1994-05-18/news/1994138002_1_gilbert-howard-hughes-co-workers
-No, mention of an alarm.
-The "handyman" not the security company called the cops
-He had a key but there is no mention of him using it
-Even if he used they key Williams could have entered and exited though a window or another door or could have locked the door to delay discovery of his crime
No my recollection isnt faulty. The article may be in error but then again the information you just posted may also be in error. Or there may be more than one version as is typical in these kind of cover up.
He did use a key and according to the Baltimore Sun this set off an alarm.
So you claim, you have yet to produce any evidence to that effect.
Now you got Williams going in and out of a window, or entering this door or that door. It's all speculation on your part.In response to your undocumented claims. Even if they said the door was locked your claim that the thief must have locked it was speculation.
The fact that their alarm went off when the handyman let himself in is highly suspicious. It means the killer(s) would have had to reset it.Until you document this claim it isn't a fact. As you said "The facts shouldnt be that hard to confirm or refute." all you have to do is search through your browser's history till find the supposed article
Let me see if I can find the article again. Funny if the article is wrong or I misread it that it mentioned an alarm system. That part turned out to be fact.
Even if I find the article it doesnt make it fact. I have also read the other recounting of how the police were alerted to the scene.
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His son's response to his dad's post
This whole scenario with the Barret's son lacks credibility. I mean how many son's would take their dad to task like this?
There's great irony with Len Colby bringing this BS forward. It's quite funny actually.
You are a true crackpot, even Fetzer acknowledges it is Barrett's son. If you'd bothered to read Barrett's reply you'd see that he signed it "Love Dad"
Something bothering you Colby? I think you get my message.
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Williams was 5' 1"
This is a repeat of the Wayne Williams case in Atlanta back in 1981. It's literally identical from the fiber evidence and all the rest.
The higher court that threw out the coviction stated in their conclusion that there was NO evidence of Williams breaking into the home of the Trias. No evidence of a break in. Furthermore officials could not prove Williams wrote the note left hanging on the victims door.
There was no murder weapon produced, no witnesses and no proof Williams had broken into the victims home or even that he was allowed in by the victims or opened an unlocked door.
Even if true the same court upheld his 2nd conviction. Lots of murders are convicted without murder weapons or eyewitnesses.
More pointless jibberish. The debate is whether or not the story is true. Whether Williams actually killed the two people in question.
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"Joseph Kennedy Ltd" was named as a major player in bootlegging in a 1927 Canadian inquiry and this made the front page of the NY Times at a time when the future president's father was already a major player in Wall St, Hollywood and real estate and you think no one noticed?
How many American's or media made a big deal about the NYSE meeting with the drug lords of Columbia in 1999?
Not analogous, Grasso was never approved by a government commission to hold an appointed position and was made president of the NYSE before the meeting. Obviously it would have been brought up IF he faced Senate confirmation for SEC chairman etc.
In any case he met with them briefly at a time when they were entering peace talks with the government, he did not engage in illegal business dealings with them
Yes, the head of the NYSE goes down to the jungles of Columbia to meet with the FARC to discuss taking them public and it isnt a major international scandal. He also invites them to visit the floor of the exchange. That would have made for some great TV. The head of the drug cartel FARC hitting the gavel to close out the days trading.
You're statement was that in 1927 "no one noticed". I responded by showing you no one noticed that Grasso was trying to partner with Dope, Inc.
44th United States Ambassador to the United Kingdom
In office
1938–1940
President Franklin D. Roosevelt
Preceded by Robert Worth Bingham
Succeeded by John Gilbert Winant
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1st Chairman of the Maritime Commission
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1936–1938
President Franklin D. Roosevelt
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1st Chairman of the Securities and Exchange Commission
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Sorry it is not analogous because
- FARC is primarily a guerrilla group not a drug cartel, it sells drugs to finance its “revolution”
- The Colombian government was preparing to negotiate with them and
- the country’s president asked Grasso to meet with them.
Despite the above he did face criticism
VICTIMS' FAMILIES BLAST VISIT WITH GUERRILLASNew York Post- Jul 1, 1999 Page: 34 Section:Business Word Count: 480Author:JESSE ANGELOAbstract (Document Summary)Ali El-Issa, whose wife Ingrid Washinawatock El-Issa was slain by rebels from the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC) in March, said [Richard Grasso]'s actions were outrageous and inexcusable.Grasso met with leaders of FARC over the weekend at the request of Colombian President Andres Pastarna, who has been trying to end the civil war that has claimed 35,000 civilian lives since the early 1960s.WHAT A FARC-E: The families of Terence Freitas (top left) and Lahe'ena'e Gay (bottom left), who were killed by FARC guerrillas, accused NYSE boss Richard Grasso, shown embracing Colombian rebel leader [Comandante Raul Reyes], of condoning terrorist activities. APSee also:
Thanks for point out that JPK Sr. was confirmed 3, not 2, times by the Senate, another own goal.
Sorry it is not analogous because
- FARC is primarily a guerrilla group not a drug cartel, it sells drugs to finance its “revolution”
- The Colombian government was preparing to negotiate with them and
- the country’s president asked Grasso to meet with them.
More jibberish.
The head of the NYSE Richard Grasson meets with FARC, the drug army occupying Columbia to talk about taking them public and it's not on par with the company name "Joseph Kennedy LTD. on the pages of the NY Times in 1927 about bootlegging alcohol through Canada into the USA ? How many American's even knew Joseph Kennedy in 1927?
According to your brilliant analysis the FARC is not the drug cartel, but instead they sell drugs to finance their revolution. What's their revolution, oh yeah, topple the legitimate government of Columbia and turn the country over to Dope, Inc.
Furthermore accodring to you the Columbian government (Grasso introduced the FARC as the legitimate government of Columbia while touring with them in Europe) asks Grasso to negotiate on their behalf. Grasso's solution is to "take the FARC's cocaine business "public" and trade shares in the illegal enterprise on the financial markets.
Wall Street and illegal booze, drugs have always been welded at the hip.
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Williams was 5' 1"
This is a repeat of the Wayne Williams case in Atlanta back in 1981. It's literally identical from the fiber evidence and all the rest.
The higher court that threw out the coviction stated in their conclusion that there was NO evidence of Williams breaking into the home of the Trias. No evidence of a break in. Furthermore officials could not prove Williams wrote the note left hanging on the victims door.
There was no murder weapon produced, no witnesses and no proof Williams had broken into the victims home or even that he was allowed in by the victims or opened an unlocked door.
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Unless it was on a timer. Alarms don't always have to be armed manually.
So was the alarm system on a timer? Tell us Kevin.
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What is the silly claim?
That they were close and shared clothing.
Shared clothing? I don't recall making such a bizarre claim. What is the purpose of sharing clothing, did I say how it was connected to Vidal knowing some of the family skeletons?
That was my only claim, the Vidal knew the family, and was part of this slime mold of "wealthy" families, like the Kennedy's and others.
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His son's response to his dad's post
This whole scenario with the Barret's son lacks credibility. I mean how many son's would take their dad to task like this?
There's great irony with Len Colby bringing this BS forward. It's quite funny actually.
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Your recollection was faulty
"The couple's co-workers became suspicious when they did not show up at their jobs Monday morning. A secretary at Ms. Gilbert's firm called a handyman who had a key to the house and asked him to check on the couple. He called police after finding the bodies."
http://articles.baltimoresun.com/1994-05-18/news/1994138002_1_gilbert-howard-hughes-co-workers
-No, mention of an alarm.
-The "handyman" not the security company called the cops
-He had a key but there is no mention of him using it
-Even if he used they key Williams could have entered and exited though a window or another door or could have locked the door to delay discovery of his crime
No my recollection isnt faulty. The article may be in error but then again the information you just posted may also be in error. Or there may be more than one version as is typical in these kind of cover up.
He did use a key and according to the Baltimore Sun this set off an alarm.
Now you got Williams going in and out of a window, or entering this door or that door. It's all speculation on your part. The fact that their alarm went off when the handyman let himself in is highly suspicious. It means the killer(s) would have had to reset it.
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"Joseph Kennedy Ltd" was named as a major player in bootlegging in a 1927 Canadian inquiry and this made the front page of the NY Times at a time when the future president's father was already a major player in Wall St, Hollywood and real estate and you think no one noticed?
How many American's or media made a big deal about the NYSE meeting with the drug lords of Columbia in 1999?
Not analogous, Grasso was never approved by a government commission to hold an appointed position and was made president of the NYSE before the meeting. Obviously it would have been brought up IF he faced Senate confirmation for SEC chairman etc.
In any case he met with them briefly at a time when they were entering peace talks with the government, he did not engage in illegal business dealings with them
Yes, the head of the NYSE goes down to the jungles of Columbia to meet with the FARC to discuss taking them public and it isnt a major international scandal. He also invites them to visit the floor of the exchange. That would have made for some great TV. The head of the drug cartel FARC hitting the gavel to close out the days trading.
You're statement was that in 1927 "no one noticed". I responded by showing you no one noticed that Grasso was trying to partner with Dope, Inc.
44th United States Ambassador to the United Kingdom
In office
19381940
President Franklin D. Roosevelt
Preceded by Robert Worth Bingham
Succeeded by John Gilbert Winant
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1st Chairman of the Maritime Commission
In office
19361938
President Franklin D. Roosevelt
Preceded by Office created
Succeeded by Emory S. Land
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1st Chairman of the Securities and Exchange Commission
In office
19341935
President Franklin D. Roosevelt
Preceded by Office created
Succeeded by James M. Landis
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I don’t know why you think either of those article support Kathy’s or your silly claims. People even said
But others in the family disagree. "I don't think anyone wouldn't recognize the main characters—Jackie is Savannah, Lee is Melanie, my father is Uncle Melville and my mother is Aunt Miriam," says Nina's half brother Jamie Auchincloss, a 34-year-old photographer. "Nini," complains Jamie, who is the progeny of Nina's father, Hugh Auchincloss, and Jackie's mother, Janet Bouvier, "said some rather rough things about my father." (Perhaps revealingly, Nina's big stepsister Lee Radziwill was conspicuously absent from the Manhattan launch party.)Hmm no mention of Nina's half brother.
What is the silly claim?
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The Baltimore Sun reported that the person finding the two victims had used his key to get in the house and this tripped the alarm, sending the police to the residence.
The killer "locked" the house and reset the "alarm" before leaving? Interesting.
I’ve read several articles in the Sun and other publications about the case and never saw anything along those lines. Can you provide a link?
It was located in a "cluster" of articles like you find with this link
http://articles.baltimoresun.com/keyword/trias/recent/3
The facts shouldnt be that hard to confirm or refute. My recollection from reading the article was their bodies were found inside the house. The person finding the bodies had to use his key to get into the house which set off an alarm, that according to the story, resulted in the police being dispatched to that location. If those facts are correct then you have to assume the murderer (s) locked the house and reset the alarm.
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Vidal was a relative by marriage.
Ill give you the slow-learner version Hugh D. Auchincloss Jr. was Vidals step-father 1935 41 and Jackies step father 1942 79. They probably only knew each other vaguely if at all. There is no reason to assume he has some sort of special insight in to how the father-in-law of his ex-stepfathers step-daughter made his fortune in the 1920s.
Len, I know a lot about Gore Vidal. Gore and Jackie were step-siblings once removed. They were at the home at different times and were friendly. She used to wear his plaid shirts for warmth sometimes. Gore Vidal admired her very much. He wrote after she died how intelligent she was and possessed with a profound acerbic wit. He never said anything about her when she was alive, as far as I know.
The trouble started when the Kennedys gave a dinner in the White House. Jackie was in a room with several people. There was nowhere to sit. He squatted down by her and kept his balance by resting his hand on Jackie's shoulder next to him. They started talking. Whoever was on her other side spoke to her. Suddenly his hand was knocked off Jackie's shoulder. It was Bobby Kennedy. Gore ignored him. Again Jackie turned to him and the person on her other side engaged her attention. Again Bobby Kennedy knocked Vidal's hand off Jackie's shoulder. Kennedy walked out of the room. Vidal stormed out after him. He closed the door behind him and other doors were closed. He said, "Don't you ever do that again." To which Kennedy replied, "F--- off, Buddy Boy." To which one of America's man of letters heard himself say, "You f--- off." [i had to clean up the language for Kathy Beckett's sake.]
When this party was over, Jackie never spoke to him again. And I think that's tragic. Rumors began circulating that Gore Vidal got drunk at the party, disgraced himself -- and by the early '70's Truman Capote had him physically picked up by Secret Service men and placed onto Pennsylvania Ave. This, of course, was not true. But the story always remained that he got drunk at the White House party and caused trouble.
In later years a reporter asked Lee Radziwell (Jackie's sister) about the Gore Vidal and Truman Capote feud. "Oh, everyone knows they're both fags," she said. This almost killed Capote. He had done so much for Lee Radziwell so she could be something by herself. I believe this took place after Capote published several chapters of a new book (never finished) in Esquire: "La Cote Basque," I think. None of his high society friends, except Joann Carson, ever spoke to him again, as it was so obviously about them.
Anyway, Gore Vidal and Jackie Kennedy ("two of the coolest people of our generation") got onto an elevator together in NY. Neither one of them knew where to look. They just wouldn't talk. She got off first and said in her Monroe-ish voice, tinged with sarcasm, "Bye."
Kathy C
Time 1976
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,918135-6,00.html
1981
http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20079225,00.html
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Good thing this isnt "the" Joseph Kennedy. 1927 NYTimes.
Thanks for that Terry, you deserve the Adres Escobar Award for posting that. "Joseph Kennedy Ltd" was named as a major player in bootlegging in a 1927 Canadian inquiry and this made the front page of the NY Times at a time when the future president's father was already a major player in Wall St, Hollywood and real estate and you think no one noticed?
EDIT: Typo fixed
"Joseph Kennedy Ltd" was named as a major player in bootlegging in a 1927 Canadian inquiry and this made the front page of the NY Times at a time when the future president's father was already a major player in Wall St, Hollywood and real estate and you think no one noticed?
How many American's or media made a big deal about the NYSE meeting with the drug lords of Columbia in 1999?
Richard Grasso meets with Paul Reyes the head of the Columbian drug army FARC. Grasso wanted to take their enterprise "public" as in IPO. He toured Europe with the FARC introdcing them as the "real" Government of Columbia.
On June 26, 1999, Reuters reported that Grasso met with Colombian rebels, the FARC, in an article entitled "NYSE Chief Meets Top Colombia Rebel Leader". The FARC is considered a terrorist organization by the U.S. State Department (on its list of Foreign Terrorist Organizations) and is allegedly responsible for kidnappings and narcotics trafficking in order to bankroll their revolutionary activities (see: narcoterrorism).
The article quoted Grasso as saying, "I invite members of the FARC to visit the New York Stock Exchange so that they can get to know the market personally." Some found the meeting inexplicable, considering the FARC supports anti-capitalist ideals and has no officially recognized financial clout. Grasso told reporters that he was bringing "a message of cooperation from U.S. financial services."[3]
http://yeslove.happysoft.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/grasso_farc.jpg
Back in Kennedy's bootlegging days the market was totally unregulated.
The definitive story of the Pecora Commission and the origin and passage of Glass Steagall.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=130384189
SIEGEL: This was the jungle. This was the unregulated jungle of Wall Street.
Prof. PERINO: Pure laissez-faire. At this point, in the late 1920s and up to the hearings, Washington had never regulated the securities markets. There was some federal regulation of banking, but at this point, Wall Street was pure laissez-faire.
SIEGEL: How much credit does Pecora deserve for the reforms that President Roosevelt - who at this moment is just entering office, presidents were inaugurated in those days in March, and the critical hearings were unfolding just before that - the reforms that FDR ultimately championed?
Mr. PERINO: I think he deserves a huge amount of credit. And here's the reason why. One of the most famous laws to pass during that first 100 days of Roosevelt's administration was the so-called Glass-Steagall Act. And Glass-Steagall, as many people know, did primarily two things. First of all, it separated commercial and investment banking. And second, what it did was to create federal deposit insurance.
Glass-Steagall had actually been kicking around Congress for a couple of years. And in the month before Pecora became counsel to the hearings, it actually went down to a fiery defeat at the hands of Huey Long from Louisiana in a very famous filibuster.
But when Pecora came along - and Pecora, I have to say, was the beneficiary of incredible timing, he put Charlie Mitchell(ph) on the stand at precisely the time the banking crisis of 1933 hit. With every bank across the country shuttered and Pecora revealing all of the wrongdoing that was happening on Wall Street, Glass-Steagall sailed through relatively easily and actually was much more extensive than it otherwise would have been.
Deposit insurance wasn't even dreamed about in January of 1932. In the spring of 1933, it passed easily.
SIEGEL: Yeah, you write that FDR, Franklin Delano Roosevelt, was very skeptical about federal deposit insurance. Some states had tried it. He said it didn't work. But the public mood was changing and banks were also closing all over the place. And so what had been a very radical measure a year earlier becomes law.
Mr. PERINO: That's right. And his vice president, Garner, basically told Roosevelt, you know, if you want people to put money back in the banks, you're going to have to give them federal deposit insurance.
And as we look back on it now, we can see that that federal deposit insurance proved to be one of the most important structural reforms to the banking committee to emerge from the New Deal.
SIEGEL: Michael Perino, thank you very much for talking with us.
Mr. PERINO: Thanks for having me.
Michael Perino's book about Ferdinand Pecora's investigation of the great crash is called "The Hellhound of Wall Street."
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On a separate note, have you dropped your silly theories that
1)scientists/biologists/micro-biologists are being killed off
If you consider the brutal murders of these scientists, along with many others, as being "silly theories", then you really do need a reality check.
Yes Duane scientists - including, biologist even micro ones, get murdered, commit suicide and die in accidents. So do English teachers, antiques dealers, musicians and military officers as well as shoe-shine boys, school teachers, secretaries and seamstresses. In fact about 0.05% of all Americans die violent deaths every year. Men are more likely to die of unnatural causes than women. To demonstrate there is something amiss you have to show that scientists or specifically biologists/micro-biologists are murdered at greater than expected rates.
See post 209 of this thread
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=15977&view=findpost&p=208708
) Trias was murdered to silence him?The Williams' verdict of guilty was overturned.. He is now presumed innocent, unless proven guilty in a new court of law.
You really need to keep up, Williams was reconvicted at his 2nd trial, appealed again but his 2nd conviction was upheld. So he had his guilt proven in two courts before two judges and two juries. As per the latest hit for his name in Google News he is still serving his double life sentence
See post 208 of this thread
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=15977&view=findpost&p=208706
"Do you keep missing this reply or do you just keep ignoring it?
The evidence suggests that it was no random robbery that took out Jose Trias and his wife .. It appears that the two bit petty thief Scotland E. Williams played the role of Lee Harvey Oswald in this little charade."
LHO was never even indicted let alone faced trial, Williams was convicted twice. LHO had no known contact with Kennedy or Connelly and the ID's of him as the person who shot Tippet disputed, Williams admitted to robbing the victims and is the last person know to have seen them alive, there was considerable forensic evidence linking him to the crime scene which claimed never to have been to.
"With an endowment of more than $11 billion, the Howard Hughes Medical Institute is the largest philanthropy in the US and possibly the most influential sponsor of biomedical research in the world. Choppin was its president from 1987 until the end of 1999. Its first grants were made in 1988..."
I have no idea why you think this is relevant
From "Microbiologist Death Toll Mounts As Connections to Dyncorp, Hadron, Promis Software & Disease Research Emerge. A Career in Microbiology Can Be Harmful to Your Health (Revised/Updated)." By Michael Davidson, FTW Staff Writer, and Michael C. Ruppert: "The Howard Hughes Medical Institute -- Another Link?""There is another intriguing connection between three of the five American scientists that have died. Wiley, Schwartz, and Benito Que worked for medical research facilities that received grants from Howard Hughes Medical Institute (HHMI). HHMI funds a tremendous number of research programs at schools, hospitals and research facilities, and has long been alleged to be conducting 'black ops' biomedical research for intelligence organizations, including the CIA."
I don't consider Ruppert a credible source and even he only says CIA black-op funding "has long been alleged". Your previous source said HHMI "currently supplies about 22 percent of all nonprofit research support in biomedicine" thus a large percentage of biologists/doctors etc will have "worked for medical research facilities that received grants from" them.
"Long-time biowarfare invstigator Patricia Dole, Ph.D. reports that there is a history of people connected to HHMI being murdered. In 1994, Jose Trias met with a friend in Houston, Texas and was planning to go public with his personal knowledge of HHMI 'front door' grants being diverted to 'back door' black ops bioresearch. The next day, Trias and his wife were found dead in their Chevy Chase, Md. home. Chevy Chase is where HHMI is headquartered. Police describe the killings as a professional hit. Tsunao Saitoh, who formerly worked at an HHMI-funded lab at Columbia University, was shot to death on May 7, 1996 while sitting in his car outside his home in La Jolla, Calif. Police also describe this as a professional hit."Perfect example of the crack(pot) researchers you depend on
"Long-time biowarfare invstigator Patricia Dole, Ph.D."
Her last name is Doyle
"reports that there is a history of people connected to HHMI being murdered"
There's "a history" but the author could only cite 2!
"The next day, Trias and his wife were found dead in their Chevy Chase, Md. home."
No they were found dead in their vacation home 40 miles away, in Winchester-on-the-Severn, MD
"Police describe the killings as a professional hit."
BS, they described it as a robbery and arrested killer within days
"Tsunao Saitoh, who formerly worked at an HHMI-funded lab at Columbia University, was shot to death on May 7, 1996"
He worked there 1982 - 5*, i.e. for only 3 years, 11 years before the crime. If he knew something why did it take them over a decade to kill him?
"HHMI is headquartered in Chevy Chase, Maryland, and employs more than 2,900 individuals across the U.S"* If we count all the people who ever worked their the number will be much higher. Some of these people will be murdered.
* http://community.sciencecareers.org/ctscinet/partners/hhmi/
The Baltimore Sun reported that the person finding the two victims had used his key to get in the house and this tripped the alarm, sending the police to the residence.
The killer "locked" the house and reset the "alarm" before leaving? Interesting.
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Dope, Inc.
Edgar Bronfman along with Kennedy in law California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger push for the legalization of Marijuana in California on behalf of Dope, Inc.
Edgar Bronfman penned this pro drug legalization article in the San Jose Mercury News on October 20th, 2010. Ironically Gary Webb a reporter with the San Jose Mercury news broke the story in 1996 about drugs, and Iran/Contra.
Former Bronfman family attorney Louis Mortimer Bloomfield was the director of Permindex, the apparatus deployed to assassinate President John F. Kennedy in Dallas on November 22, 1963.
The Kennedy family continue to collaborate with the killers of President John F. Kennedy.
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California voters often approach elections with a sharp recognition of the importance of their decisions, not just in their own lives, but in the future of the state and the nation. Seldom has this been truer than the votes they will cast next month on their ballot measure known as Proposition 19.
If it becomes law, marijuana will become legal to grow, sell and use as a step toward comparable regulations and taxation as have been in effect in the United States regarding alcohol since the repeal of Prohibition 77 years ago.
First, our economy will receive an enormous boost. Tax revenues are likely to jump first, followed by a significant reduction in the tens of billions of government spending on the costs of interdiction and enforcement, including our spending on police, courts and prisons.
Third, we can become a more rational country in our approach to treatment for those who suffer from the abuses and addictions associated with the many drug dangers in our society. Ironically, Americans enhanced our understanding of the simple fact of equivalence -- there is the same amount of the same ingredient -- potable ethanol -- in most beer, wine and spirits. Now we need to take the opposite step with regard to drugs by focusing on how different are the dangers and treatments.
Fourth, I am reminded that two of our greatest intellectual leaders with staunchly opposite views on many topics take virtually the same view on legalizing marijuana. Milton Friedman, the godfather of conservative economics, led a group of more than 500 American economists who endorsed a Harvard study on the costs of marijuana prohibition and the revenue to be gained from legalizing it. At the other end of the philosophical spectrum, Ira Glasser, the former longtime leader of the American Civil Liberties Union is currently speaking out in the marijuana legalization movement.
Finally, and despite continued opposition to the proposition itself, California just passed, and the governor just signed, legislation that essentially decriminalizes the state's laws regarding marijuana. This in a very positive step because it has strong similarities to the 8-year-old laws of Portugal, which experts like those of the Cato Institute have long believed is the most effective decriminalization framework regarding all drugs to date. That experience found that "none of the nightmare scenarios ... from rampant increases in drug usage among the young to the transformation of Lisbon into a haven for 'drug tourists' has occurred." Moreover, they found that "drug-related pathologies -- such as sexually transmitted diseases and deaths due to drug usage -- have decreased dramatically."
With America's experience with alcohol prohibition and the prolonged success of Portugal's halfway measure of decriminalization, it's time for the voters to lead their tentative politicians by passing Proposition 19 and legalizing marijuana.
EDGAR M. BRONFMAN is a former chairman and CEO of Seagram Company Ltd. He wrote this article for this newspaper.
http://www.mercurynews.com/opinion/ci_16390287