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On Thursday, as the remaining votes continued to paint a grim picture for the president’s re-election chances, Trump adviser Harlan Hill demanded that Republican groups start “bussing Trump supporters” to major cities in swing states where ballots are being counted.
https://twitter.com/Harlan/status/1324314123308572672
HARLAN Z. HILL @Harlan
"Republican groups should start bussing Trump supporters to Philly, Phoenix, and Detroit. Make them feel our level of pissed off."
Yeah, they had such good luck with shuttles in Omaha and all.
You go ahead and abandon a bunch of people off in the middle of Detroit or Philadelphia. See how that goes. Although why he would want to drop off a bunch of kissing people in an inner city kind of escapes me.
Steve Thomas
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22 minutes ago, W. Niederhut said:
As for 48% of voters voting for the sociopath, Tom Nichols expressed my own sentiments on the subject in yesterday's Atlantic.
A Large Portion of the Electorate Chose the Sociopath
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/11/large-portion-electorate-chose-sociopath/616994/
W.,
Quoting from the article you cited, "Sadly, the voters who said in 2016 that they chose Trump because they thought he was “just like them” turned out to be right. Now, by picking him again, those voters are showing that they are just like him: angry, spoiled, racially resentful, aggrieved, and willing to die rather than ever admit that they were wrong."
As I watched the election results rolling in Tuesday night, I was struck by the fact that in state after state after state, the cities were voting for Joe Biden and the countryside was voting for Trump.
I have lived in small towns most of my life, and the one thing people in small towns hate more than anything is change. People in small towns are insular. They're a small group of people surrounded by large areas of either agricultural land or forests. Their lives are consumed by their immediate family and friends. They don't read the papers or watch the news or read books. I actually lived in a town that a history book of that town described it as being "the town that history passed by."
In his campaign slogan, Donald Trump embodied that world view. It was "Make America Great Again."
It wasn't "Make America Great.". it was "Make American Great Again." It expressed a longing to return to a time before all this change came in.
I've been wondering what this foretells for the future. On the one hand, small towns are drying up because jobs are not to be found. On the other hand, more people are moving out of the cites to escape the crime and congestion. These people will be more educated and more adaptable to change.
It will be interesting to see how this plays out. It will probably take several generations.
Steve Thomas
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11 hours ago, James DiEugenio said:
If its a tie it goes to the House.
I think good ole Nancy might have something to say about it.
Jim,
If the Electoral College is tied and the election goes to the House, each state in the House gets one vote.
There are more Republican States in the House of Representatives than Democratic ones, and Trump wins.
The Senate votes for the Vice President, and Pence wins.
Steve Thomas
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12 hours ago, David Andrews said:
The Electoral College was installed as a check against the use of demagoguery and a bullying "mobocracy" to sway the popular vote. We have lived beyond the time when the EC is an effective barrier against these. The EC is also saddled with the prospect that a state elector can vote against the party he/she is pledged to support - little heard of these days, but still as much a potential hazard as a saving grace.
David.
Theoretically, I think the Electoral College is a good thing. If you look down through history, you can see what mobs are capable of.
My complaint with the Electoral College is that for the most part, they are chosen by political parties. Why should private "companies", or political parties be allowed to choose people who are voting for the public, or all of us?
What would happen if we made it a law that members of the Electoral College could not be a member of, or belong to, any political party; and that bribery, or attempted bribery of a member of the Electoral College was a felony?
Steve Thomas
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26 minutes ago, Andrew Prutsok said:
Is it possible that even Donald Trump underestimated how stupid and authoritarian Americans are?
Andrew,
Four years ago, Donald Trump said, "I could shoot somebody on Fifth Ave,, and I wouldn't lose any votes."
He has now killed 225,000 of us, and he still hasn't lost any votes.
How high will will we let the body count go?
Steve Thomas
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Roger Stone Calls For Trump To ‘Declare Martial Law’ To Seize Power If He Loses
By Mary Papenfuss 09/12/2020
“Long-time Donald Trump confidant, and convicted felon, Roger Stone said that the president should declare “martial law” to seize power if he loses what Stone characterized as an already corrupt election.
The results will only be legitimate if the “real winner” — Trump — takes office, regardless of what the votes say, Stone declared. A loss would apparently be justification for Trump to use force to take over the nation.
Stone, who worked as an adviser in the last Trump campaign, made the astonishing statements Thursday on the InfoWars program of far-right conspiracy theorist Alex Jones. Both men talked of an ongoing “coup” against Trump…”
“Stone appeared resigned to a Trump loss — but blamed it on the baseless claim that early voting has already been “corrupted.”
To safeguard Trump’s position, Stone called for federal authorities to seize ballots in Nevada, for FBI agents to physically block certain voters from casting their ballots, and for Trump to use his powers for widespread arrests to solidify his power, Media Matters first reported.”
“While such off-the-rail suggestions could easily be shrugged off from most, Stone is a high-profile friend of the president and has his ear, critics fear. Harvard law professor and Constitutional expert Laurence Tribe warned that Stone’s “advocacy of totalitarian takeover by Trump has to be taken seriously.”
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Donald Trump has declared that he won the election and demanded that the vote counting be stopped.
Since legally he can't do that, the only reason for doing so is that he has opened the door for civil unrest.
Donald Trump is trying to induce insurrection, so that he can invoke the Insurrection Act and declare martial law.
Steve Thomas
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1 hour ago, Joe Bauer said:
God Help This Country.
America is as insane as Trump.
Joe,
America disappointed me tonight.
I've been disappointed since the 1960's.
Steve Thomas
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9 hours ago, Andrew Prutsok said:
I'm in Southeastern Montana, Steve, not the pretty part. Miles City, hardcore cowboy country. Good move, I suppose. Had to come west to make a living. I've been to Bozeman a couple times. Our home office is in Livingston, so I get over there occasionally. Really nice out that way. I like it here.
As far as drivers, not sure about the bribes. I can't get used to driving 80 miles an hour. Every car on the Interstate flies by me. Speed limits are 80, but they seem to look the other way pretty much to 90.
Andrew,
Been to Miles City a couple of times. Lonely country out there, but that's where Big Sky really means something. Your whole being gets swallowed up there.
The $5 wasn't a bribe. It was the speeding fine back then, and you could pay the policeman directly.
Those were the days.
Steve Thomas
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30 minutes ago, Andrew Prutsok said:
Would this be considered white privilege? I registered and voted today in Montana in about 15 minutes, with no Montana driver's license.
Andrew,
What part of Montana? I lived in Bozeman for a while. I'd move back there in a heartbeat.
That's not white privilege. That's Montana privilege.
🙂
Do drivers in MT still drive around with $5 bills stuck in their visors to pay the State Police when they stop you for speeding on the Interstate?
Steve Thomas
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2 hours ago, Steve Thomas said:
BIDEN WINS!!!!
Clean Sweep as Biden racks the table
Unanimous vote as Biden overwhelms opposition
The vote was 5 – 0 in Dixville Notch, Township in northern New Hampshire. Voting began at midnight and was completed at 12:01. The Township has 12 residents.
Steve Thomas
Lifelong #Republican Les Otten to Cast First Vote at Midnight in Dixville Notch for #Democrat @JoeBiden
His video explaining why.
https://twitter.com/DixvilleVote/status/1323406240383381506?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
And that's why Biden will win this election.
Steve Thomas
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A very tired-sounding Trump discussing Barron on Fox & Friends 11/03/20:
"He had it for about two seconds. Ya know it just went through him, and it's gone. The immune system on children, you gotta get the children back to work."
Yup. That just about says it all.
Big, beautiful coal. Let's get those little brats back in the mines where they belong.
Steve Thomas
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BIDEN WINS!!!!
Clean Sweep as Biden racks the table
Unanimous vote as Biden overwhelms opposition
The vote was 5 – 0 in Dixville Notch, Township in northern New Hampshire. Voting began at midnight and was completed at 12:01. The Township has 12 residents.
Steve Thomas
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5 hours ago, Steve Thomas said:
Years from now, historians will look back on the last two weeks of Donald Trump's Presidential campaign and shake their heads at the sheer incompetentancy.
From his campaign manager stealing $40 million, and hackers in Wisconsin stealing $2 million, to stranding rally goers in the cold and dark in Nebraska and Pennsylvania and dropping like flies in the heat of Tampa, FL; at his rally in North Carolina, they were playing the theme song from the movie, Titanic.
People are going to look back and ask, "Who hired these guys?"
Steve Thomas
Yet Again, Trump Rally Attendees Stranded On-Site For Hours After Trump Leaves
“Hundreds of Trump supporters in Rome, Georgia, huddled in the cold for hours waiting on buses to take them back to their cars after the president spoke Sunday.”
By Ja’han Jones 11/02/20
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-rally-attendees-stranded-again_n_5fa04535c5b60e7e37d0cf5e
“On Sunday night ― and for the second time in one week ― hundreds of Trump supporters leaving a rally were forced to wait hours in the cold for buses meant to drive them back to their cars.”
https://twitter.com/JulieNBCNews/status/1323144589448916993?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
Steve Thomas
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If you're going to protest, go to Barcelona.
https://boingboing.net/2020/11/02/street-pianist-plays-on-as-barcelona-ignites-with-protests.html
Steve Thomas
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Years from now, historians will look back on the last two weeks of Donald Trump's Presidential campaign and shake their heads at the sheer incompetentancy.
From his campaign manager stealing $40 million, and hackers in Wisconsin stealing $2 million, to stranding rally goers in the cold and dark in Nebraska and Pennsylvania and dropping like flies in the heat of Tampa, FL; at his rally in North Carolina, they were playing the theme song from the movie, Titanic.
People are going to look back and ask, "Who hired these guys?"
Steve Thomas
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"At Trump’s rallies, the United States flag has almost officially replaced by the fascist, racist, authoritarian “Blue Lives Matter” flag. This is another encouragement of state-sponsored violence by Donald Trump against his movement’s perceived enemies — meaning nonwhite people, Black Lives Matter activists, liberals and progressives, and anyone else deemed to be “justifiable” targets.
Writing at the Milwaukee Independent, Mаurіcе Chаmmаh and Cаry Аspіnwаll explore this:
What originally began as a banner supporting law enforcement in recent years been increasingly hijacked by White Supremacist groups who use it as a Neo-Confederate flag and symbol of the anti-Black Lives Matter movement. Since the death of George Floyd it has been flown alongside the American flag at Trump rallies.
At his “superspreader” event in Waukesha [Wisconsin] on October 24, Trump’s campaign took the unprecedented step of replacing the patriotic red, white, and blue of the “Stars and Stripes.” Instead, the cold black, white, and blue was displayed as the dominant background for Trump at the event, in what critics call a visual dog whistle.
Those who fly the flag have said it stands for solidarity and professional pride within a dangerous, difficult profession and a solemn tribute to fallen police officers. But it has also been flown by white supremacists, appearing next to Confederate flags at the 2017 ‘Unite the Right’ rally in Charlottesville.
Philosopher Jason Stanley described this on Twitter as the “replacement of the American flag by a fascist one. Whether Trump manages to stay in office or not, the second Confederacy now has a banner.”"
Flags matter. They are the tangible symbol of a people united for a cause. That Trump replaced the American flag with the Thin Blue Line flag as the centerpiece of his rally is a rejection of the nation itself in favor of his role as the leader of the alt-right. And it was not inadvertent: White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany called attention to the prominence of the flag, tweeting: ‘The Thin Blue Line flag is flying HIGH at President [Trump’s] rally in Wisconsin!’ – Heather Cox Richardson
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8 hours ago, Bill Simpich said:
I have reported on the Gannaway relationship with convicted wiretapper Robert Denson in 1963, reprinted below.
This late 1964 FBI memo by Robert Barrett indicates that the Gannaway-Denson relationship was being monitored by none other than Criminal Intelligence detective Don Stringfellow (identified as DL T-23)
Bill,
I was looking through the memo you cited and a couple of things jumped out at me:
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=122178&search=stringfellow#relPageId=15&tab=page
Page 15
Captain, J. M. Solomon was the Head of the Reservists for the Dallas Police Department. I wonder if they were related.
Jack Ruby’s Accountant, Abraham Kleinman, saw Jack Ruby in Sol’s Turf Bar on November 23rd.
Page 16
The apple didn’t fall far from the tree did it?
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Shane A Swank
‘I have seen this disappear from a few posts so I downloaded Jr inciting MAGAs to violence in TX against the Biden bus.”
https://twitter.com/swank_shane/status/1322786131713413120?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
"It would be nice if you could all get together and head on down to McAllen, TX and give Kamala Harris a nice Trump Train welcome."
Steve Thomas
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‘Get the Hell Out Of Here and Get Something To Shoot With’
“The political machine in McMinn County, Tennessee, had spent Election Day intimidating voters, encouraging fraud and holding poll watchers at gunpoint. That’s when the GIs decided to rebel.”
By CHRIS DEROSE 11/01/2020
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/11/01/world-war-ii-veterans-rigged-election-433773
August 1, 1946 — Election Day
"Ed had spent 34 months as a combat engineer in the Pacific and returned with two purple hearts. He was not about to let some machine flunkie like Carl Neil disrespect his mother. Shy Scott, a former bomber pilot and GI poll worker, physically held him back, as both of their lives depended on it. There were six armed deputies and only two of them. Barely an hour earlier one of those deputies, Windy Wise, had shot a man for trying to vote."
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Assholes: A Theory
How America Became a Country Full of Assholes
By Nick Schager
Updated Oct. 31, 2020
https://www.thedailybeast.com/how-america-became-a-country-full-of-assholes
“To grasp that argument, one need only listen to Assholes: A Theory’s basic description of an asshole. As James states, “The asshole, as I define it, is the guy who allows himself special advantages in cooperative life out of an entrenched sense of entitlement that immunizes him against the complaints of other people.” In other words, he’s the individual—generally male, although as John Cleese candidly admits, his mother probably was one too—who thinks the general rules don’t apply to them because they’re somehow smarter, better, or more special than their fellow citizens. James’ example is a surfer who violates the right-of-way customs in the ocean. Yet the type is universal, whether in line at the grocery store, on the road in traffic, or at work. They’re the arrogant creeps convinced they’re fundamentally superior, and thus free to conduct themselves in whatever way they see fit.”
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13 hours ago, Larry Hancock said:
However its pretty clear that anything that doesn't fit Prouty's personal narrative, his views on Lansdale or the conspiracy is not going to be well received in this thread so I'll just butt out once again....
Larry,
Not everyone is a Prouty fan. I put him and Antonio Veciana in the same skeptics box.
Steve Thomas
The inevitable end result of our last 56 years
in Political Discussions
Posted
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/11/trump-campaign-manager-sparks-confusion-with-claim-that-president-is-alive-and-well/
“Campaign manager Bill Stepien insisted President Donald Trump was “alive and well…”
“Stepien made the pronouncement during a call with reporters as several key states continue counting votes in the presidential election...”
Um...
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