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  1. 16 hours ago, Jim Hargrove said:

    Steve,

    On the Minsk radio plant report, are we really to believe that a Harvey Lee and a Lee Harvey were both hired as regulators in the experimental shop?  Seems more likely it was just a transposition error, at least in this case.

    Jim,

    CE 985 page 111

    https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=1135#relPageId=444&search=%22Harvey_Lee%20Oswald%22

    image.png.ceb2623e1e71b7fb5eda3b9b05a0d3f9.png

    https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=1135#relPageId=447&tab=page

    On page 433 of that CE Exhibit (CE 985), it says that “Citizen” Harvey Lee Oswald was hired as a regulator at the Minsk Radio Plant on January 13, 1960.

    "Comrade" Lee Harvey Oswald is employed January 1, 1960 as an assembler.

    "Citizen" Harvey Lee Oswald is hired two weeks later on January 13, 1960 as a regulator.

    https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=7986&relPageId=111&search=Dobrynin_December%2011,%201963

    p. 111.

    In this letter, it says that Harvey Lee Oswald's request for USSR Citizenship was denied. It doesn't say when he applied for that citizenship, but the character reference memo from the Minsk Radio factory in CE 985, p. 433 https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=1135&relPageId=447&search=%22Harvey_Lee%20Oswald%22 is dated December 11, 1961 and refers to “Citizen” Harvey Lee Oswald.

    image.png.d33afb6588975385c49882edf99bf101.png

    On January 4, 1960, Lee Harvey Oswald applied for a non-citizen alien identity card. In the space for the names of relatives living abroad, he listed his mother, Margaret living at 3124 W. 5th. St. in Fort Worth. No brother is listed. Four photographs are provided. (Photos not included in the documents)

    This document spells out the details of a non-citizen identity card (Series P-311479)

    https://www.archives.gov/files/research/jfk/releases/104-10210-10003.pdf

    One week later, on January 11, 1960 he submitted an application for employment at the Minsk Radio and TV plant. On his application, he wrote that his parents were dead, and he had no brothers or sisters.

    https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=1135&search=%22Harvey_Lee+Oswald%22#relPageId=441&tab=page

    If he didn’t apply for the job until January 11th, how could there be a Certificate of Employment dated January 1st?

    On January 4, 1961 he applied for an extension of his non-citizen alien identity card. In the space for the names of relatives living abroad, this space is left blank. https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=1135&search=%22Harvey_Lee+Oswald%22#relPageId=430&tab=page

    This ID card was extended to January 4, 1962.

     

    If Lee Harvey Oswald never applied for Soviet Citizenship, whose application for Citizenship was denied?

    Steve Thomas

     

  2. UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
    CENTRAL DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA, SOUTHERN DIVISION

    https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cacd.841840/gov.uscourts.cacd.841840.345.0.pdf

    Page 10

    That prior holding makes the veracity of the Select Committee’s accusations
    all the more important, and a key issue underlying this dispute over privileged doc-
    uments. For if, as seemed clear to Dr. Eastman and his client at the time, there was
    illegality and fraud in the election of sufficient magnitude to have altered the out-
    come of the election, then far from “undermining” Democracy, Dr. Eastman’s ac-
    tions and advice must be seen for what they were—a legitimate attempt to prevent
    a stolen election. Perhaps Dr. Eastman was wrong about that. But even if he was,
    being wrong about factual claims is not and never has been criminal—indeed, it is
    constitutionally protected, see New York Times v. Sullivan, 376 U.S. 254 (1964)—
    unless the claims were known to be false when made. The Select Committee’s evi-
    dence on that score is simply that news accounts and some government officials
    (including a few high-ranking ones) had belittled the substantial fraud and illegal-
    ity evidence as false. But given the false claims, outright lies, and even docu-
    mented efforts by many of those same sources to spy on and otherwise thwart the
    former President from fulfilling his constitutional duties for the entire four years of
    his term as President, one should hardly be surprised that President Trump did not
    take such claims at face value and preferred instead to rely on trusted advisors out side of the normal channels.”

     

    This is straight out of the Wizard of Oz.

    If you close your eyes real tight and click the heels of your ruby red slippers three times, and wish real hard, it will all come true.

    Steve Thomas

     

     

  3. In search of Republican candidates willing to stand up for democracy

    By the Nevada Sun Editorial Board Sunday, May 15, 2022 |

    https://lasvegassun.com/news/2022/may/15/in-search-of-republican-candidates-willing-to-stan/

    Of the five leading Republican candidates for the governorship of Nevada, every one of them has gone on record as both supporting and contributing to the Big Lie. In doing so, they have all made a choice to subvert our democracy, undermine the integrity of our elections, and ignore the Constitution of the United States.

    If you are a Republican running for office who believes in truth, believes that the last election was fair, who rejects the deranged calls to destroy our democracy, we need to hear from you. Nevada needs to hear from you. We want to endorse sanity, honesty, integrity and moderation.

    As it stands right now, voters are faced with a slate of GOP candidates — nearly across the board — who aren’t fit for elective office because they buy into the Big Lie and its attempt to derail democracy. We hate finding people in the public sphere who want to destroy the very elections they now seek to win. We hate efforts to disenfranchise voters and rig future elections. We yearn for a dignified, honest and pro-democracy Republican leadership. We yearn for the Republicans of years past. Patriots, not insurrectionists.

    So please, if you are such a Republican and are running for office, stand proud and reach out to us. We want to present a list of heroes trying to rescue their party from the madness afflicting it.We want to share your perspective with our readers and let them know that Republican candidates for office still exist who believe in the Constitution, who believe in democracy, and who believe that the peaceful transition of power among our duly elected officials is a hallmark of what not only has made America great in the past, but what can help us continue to be a great country moving forward.”

    Steve Thomas

     

  4. 1 hour ago, Dan Rice said:

    I thought that the name Lee Henry Oswald was used in the mole hunt.

    Dan,

    The name Harvey Oswald appears all across the Intelligence Community spectrum;

    FBI, CIA, State Department, Secret Service...

    a)

    Final Report of the Assassinations Records Review Board September 30, 1998

    Chapter 6 Part 1: The Quest for Additional Information and Records in Federal Government Offices

    p. 83

    https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=3611&relPageId=106&search=%22Harvey_Lee%20Oswald%22

    “The Review Board also sought to determine whether the FBI maintained a file in Mexico City on a “Harvey Lee Oswald” under the file number 105-2137.... Some of the documents in the (Mexico Ciity Legal Attache) Legat's file contain notations for routing records to a file numbered 105-2137, and were captioned “Harvey Lee Oswald”, but it did not find such a file.”

     

    b)

    Peter Dale Scott before the ARRB: October 11, 1994.

    https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=145535&search=105-2137#relPageId=36&tab=page

    p. 36.

    “I want to suggest to you that the FBI may have been tracking all of this in a file which I am quite sure has never been seen by the Warren Commission, never been seen by the House Committee, and never certainly by me or by the Archives today. I have found a reference to it in a cover sheet which I am going to leave with you. It is Mexico City File 105-2137, which is then struck out and replaced with a different file number with a different name, Lee Harvey Oswald. I hope you will pursue that original file. I predict that it will lead to some third agency which has been protected in here...”


    c)

    Letter from Petr Dale Scott to John Newman

    http://jfkcountercoup2.blogspot.com/2017/10/additional-missing-jfk-assassination.html

    Dear John,

    “In fact, the cover sheet mentioning this file is available from the Mary Ferrell Foundation website. It is NARA RIF124-10029-10270, FBI serial MX 105-3702-254. It is from “Wesley” [SA Howard D. Wesley], has the title “Information re Allegations re Oswald case,” and (apart from still classified cross-file references) contains only this reference: “105-2137, [corrected manually in ink to “3702”] (Harvy Lee Oswald).” (It makes no reference to “Lee Harvey Oswald.”)3.

    3. At the time I did not know who Wesley was. But other FBI “Harvey Lee Oswald” records identify him as SA Howard D. Wesley, then at the FBI Mexican branch office in Monterrey.”

    OSWALD CASE-REFERENCE IS MADE TO THE ATTACHED C

     

    d)

    COPY OF AN INCOMING STATE DEPARTMENT TELEGRAM DATED 19 DECEMBER 1963, IN CONNECTION WITH THE HARVEY LEE OSWALD CASE

    https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=5921&search=%22Harvey_Lee+Oswald%22#relPageId=2&tab=page

     

    DRAFT OF MEMO TO WARREN COMMISSION TRANSMITTING INFO PREVIO

    https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=95799&relPageId=5&search=%22Harvey_Lee%20Oswald%22

    page 5

    “The CIA Mexico City Station had discovered that the following individuals departing Mexico by air during early November might be identical with Harvey Lee Oswald

    (early November?)

     

    e)

    Commission Document 498 - SS Rowley Memorandum of 13 Mar 1964 Forwarding Reports

    https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=10898&search=%22Harvey_Lee+Oswald%22#relPageId=37&tab=page

    pp. 37-38. The Report is titled, Harvey Lee Oswald.

     

    Steve Thomas

     

  5. 1 hour ago, Jim Hargrove said:

    Lieutenant Jack Revill was gathering information on Oswald and prepared a list of TSBD employees and their addresses. On Oswald's employment application at the TSBD, and his W-4 form, he listed his address as 2515 W. 5th Street, Irving, Texas 41But Lieutenant Revill listed his name as Harvey Lee Oswald and his address as 605 Elsbeth. Oswald had not lived on Elsbeth since March 1963 and there was nothing related to the Elsbeth address in TSBD records.42 1t remains unknown where Lieutenant Revill obtained this address, although the address may have come from Oswald's library card. (H&L p. 901)

    The handwritten note on the document below is John A’s and says, “The same transposed name and erroneous address found in military intel files!”

     

    Jim,

    CE 2003 located in (24H259) is the list submitted to Captain Gannaway through Jack Revill of TSBD employees.

    https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=1140#relPageId=277&tab=page

     

    It is dated November 22, 1963. Heading that list is Harvey Lee Oswald at 605 Elsbeth. The Report submitted to Gannaway says it is coming thru Jack Revill. Page 3 of CE 2003, found on page 260, is signed by R.W. Westphal, Detective, Criminal Intelligence Section and P.M. Parks, Detective, Administrative Section. R.W. Westphal and P.M. Parks were both Detectives in the Special Service Bureau. Carroll and Taylor were also Detectives in that Bureau. W.P. Gannaway was the Captain and Revill was one of the Lieutenants. Westphal had been assigned by Captain Gannaway to the Trade Mart on November 22nd. along with with Revill.

     

    The list of employees and their addresses were drawn up by Westphal and Parks, but Revill said he got the address from Bob Carroll. If, for the sake of argument, Revill got the Elsbeth address from Carroll, where did the name Harvey Lee Oswald come from? That's not the name on the library card. Unless Revill or Westphal got the name wrong as well as the address.

     

    I was looking at this list of employees and something hit me. The list was compiled by Roy Westphal, Detective, Criminal Intelligence Section and P.M. Parks, Detective, Administrative Section, and given to Jack Revill. Westphal and Parks were both Detectives in the Special Service Bureau.

    The second column has the abbreviations at the top that says, "REF. INT". at the top.

    Most of the names have NONE listed, but there are three names that have a number alongside their name. I always thought that the INT at the top of the column meant Interview, but then I remembered something. In the book, No More Silence by Larry Sneed, Westphal says that later in the evening on the 22nd, he and Parks had returned to their office at the Fairgrounds to write up their Report of their days activities. While they were there, Gannaway called them and asked them to cross-reference the list of TSBD employees against the CID's Intelligence Files. When they did, they recognized Joe Molina's name. Gannaway told them to bring the whole file downtown.

    https://books.google.com/books?id=7uT-47ysB5MC&pg=PA326&lpg=PA326&dq=Dallas+"+Roy+Westphal"&source=bl&ots=eii6yRhLo8&sig=nr0C2_dukxaBfdcQiFnDLg3ugKM&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjt-9Xpi8nRAhVpwFQKHZBBDX0Q6AEIHDAA#v=onepage&q=Dallas " Roy Westphal"&f=false

    I realized that the "INT" at the top of the second column stands for "Intelligence", not "Interview".


    Besides Molina, there are two other names with a number alongside their name: a Mrs. J.E. Dean, and a Mrs. Oliver Hopson. I can't make out the number next to Mrs. Hopson, but I'll bet you that those numbers are DPD Intelligence File numbers. Mrs. Joseph Eddie Dean gave a statement to the FBI on 11/24/63.

    http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/exhibits/ce1427.htm

    Mrs. Alvin Hopson also was interviewed by the FBI on 12/4/63.

    http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/exhibits/ce2085.htm

    I wonder why those two women would be in the Dallas Police Department Intelligence files. Their husbands maybe? Were they associated with the ACLU (one of the groups that the Special Service Bureau was monitoring – see Revill’s memo to Curry about the 14 groups)?

    With Harvey Lee Oswald, living at 605 Elsbeth is listed as having NONE alongside his name, this would indicate that Oswald was not in their Intelligence files, and that that information had come from somewhere else.

    Roy Westphal in No More Silence by Larry Sneed:

    https://books.google.com/books?id=7uT-47ysB5MC&pg=PA326&lpg=PA326&dq=Dallas+%22+Roy+Westphal%22&source=bl&ots=eii6yRhLo8&sig=nr0C2_dukxaBfdcQiFnDLg3ugKM&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjt-9Xpi8nRAhVpwFQKHZBBDX0Q6AEIHDAA#v=onepage&q=Dallas%20%22%20Roy%20Westphal%22&f=false

     

    Says that it is his understanding the Hosty was trying to recruit Oswald as an informant because he had been to Russia. Says it didn't pan out.

    He had gone home and realized that he hadn't written his Report on the man at the Trade Mart wanting to wave a “Free Cuba” sign and was denied that opportunity. He picked up Preston Parks and returned to the “office which was in a little building at Fair Park”. “As I was writing the Report, the Captain called and wanted to check the School Book Depository employee list with our files. We hand handwritten, partial lists; some of them you couldn't read the names. But we did find one, a member of the American GI Forum. The Captain then instructed me to bring the entire file down to his office.”

    He recognized Joe Molina and helped serve a search warrant on him, but does not say anything about Harvey Lee Oswald and the 605 Elsbeth St. address.

    V. J. Brian addresses this list of TSBD Employees in his WC testimony. He was also a member of the Special Service Bureau

    http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/brian.htm

     

    Mr. BRIAN. He (Revill) told him (Curry), short and very quick, that they, (the FBI) knew that Oswald was a Communist and that he was in the Book Depository, and he (Curry) said, "Write a report and get it back to me right now." And he went right back and wrote a report. I forgot about the whole incident, I didn't think it would be important and I didn't--well, in fact, I didn't have time to because when I got back there they had a list of names they were going to start checking out and they handed me six of them and says, "Start going and checking here and here and here and checking these people." So I never did dwell on it again.”

     

    Lieutenant Jack Revill testified before the Warren Commission on May 13, 1964. (Bob Carroll had already testified a month earlier – see below)

    http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/revill2.htm

     

    The questioning concerns a Report that Revill wrote out at approximately 3:30 to 3:35 on the afternoon of the 22nd concerning Lee Harvey Oswald at 605 Elsbeth St.

    This Report is CE 709 at (17H495)

    https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=1134#relPageId=521&tab=page

    Mr. REVILL. That is what they gave me.
    Mr. RANKIN. You found that out?
    Mr. DULLES. This is an address he once lived at.
    Mr. RANKIN. Do you know that?
    Mr. DULLES. This is correct. I want to find out what he knows about it.

     

    Notice the interplay between Rankin and Dulles. Dulles seems to know about the Elsbeth St. address and he wants to know how Revill knows about it.

     

    Mr. DULLES. Could I ask a question? Where did you get this address that you put on of 605 Elsbeth Street, do you recall?
    Mr. REVILL. Yes, sir; from Detective E. B. Carroll or Detective Taylor.
    Mr. DULLES. Are they subordinates?
    Mr. REVILL. No; they are detectives assigned to the special service bureau. One of them works the narcotics squad and one of them is assigned to the vice unit.
    Mr. DULLES. You never ascertained where they got it?
    Mr. REVILL. No, sir; this might be the address that they got from Oswald, I do not know. I never even thought about it until you brought up the point that this is not the address.
    Mr. DULLES. Can you find out where they got this address?
    Mr. REVILL. Yes, sir; I can.
    Mr. DULLES. I think that would be useful. I would like to know that. I would like to know where they got this address also.

     

    Mr. REVILL. It would have been the same day because this was made within an hour----

    The CHAIRMAN. I think that is all. Thank you, again, lieutenant.
    Mr. REVILL. I will attempt to find out on that address, and I shall let Mr. Sorrels know, with Secret Service.

     

    It's Dulles, not Rankin who keeps pushing Revill where he got this address. Is Dulles concerned that Revill knew about a connection of a Harvey Lee Oswald to Elsbeth St, and how Revill would know about that? Just about the time when Revill would have revealed when he obtained this address, he is cut off.


    Warren Commission Document# 948 is a memo from Sorrels to Inspector Kelley dated May 19, 1964.

    https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=11344#relPageId=2&tab=page

    In that memo, Sorrels says that Revill contacted Sorrels (it does not say how this contact was made), and said that Revill told him he got the 605 Elsbeth address orally from Bob Carroll. As the driver of the car that took Oswald from the Theater to the police station, Carroll allegedly looked back over his shoulder and read the address off a Dallas Public Library card that had been removed from Oswald's billfold by one of the officers in the back seat. Carroll allegedly said that he misread the number as 605 instead of 602.

     

    This is six days after Revilll's WC testimony, and one month after Bob Carroll told the WC that no mention of an address had been made in the car transporting Oswald to City Hall.

    Detective Bob Carroll's testimony before the Warren Commission April 3, 1964

    http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/carroll.htm

     

    Mr. BELIN. Did he give two names? Or did someone in the car read from the identification?
    Mr. CARROLL. Someone in the car may have read from the identification. I know two names, the best I recall, were mentioned.

    Mr. BELIN. Were any addresses mentioned?
    Mr. CARROLL. Not that I recall; no, sir.

     

    In their after-action reports filed with Chief Curry on December 3rd, neither Caroll (Portal to Texas History)

    https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth340230/m1/1/?q=Bob%20Carroll nor Detective E.E. Taylor, Special Services Bureau, Narcotics Section (Portal to Texas History) https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth340230/m1/1/?q=E.E.%20Taylor make any mention of giving Revill Oswald’s address.

     

    Why does Revill’s Report (CE 709) and the List of Employees (CE 2003) both stop at Elsbeth? There is no indication of Neely (where Oswald moved in March), or of New Orleans, or of Oswald’s return from Mexico and subsequent move to Marsalis?

    It seems clear that the pipeline of information showing Oswald living on Elsbeth is not coming through Revill and Brian. I think it’s coming through George Bouhe and the White Russian Community. Look who Lumpkin and Crichton turned to when trying to find an interpreter for Marina – Ilya Mamantov. Elsbeth was the last known address George Bouhe had for Oswald.

    The FBI knew about Neely, but Geroge Bouhe didn’t.

    Robert Jomes told the HSCA that the 112th INTC had information about Oswald in New Orleans because of his leafletting down there, but George Bouhe didn’t. He said he had “lost all communication with them”.

    From the WC testimony of George Bouhe:

    http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/bouhe.htm

    Mr. LIEBELER - As far as you know, the next place that Oswald lived after he moved out of the YMCA was in the Oak Cliff section of Dallas?
    Mr. BOUHE - Madison is around the corner from somewhere he ultimately lived.
    Mr. LIEBELER - He ultimately lived at 604 Elsbeth?
    Mr. BOUHE - And on my card I have a date of November the 2d, 1962, that he found this apartment and moved there, but that I heard from others because by that time I lost all communication with them; didn't talk to him; didn't ask him anything, and he didn't call me.

    Mr. LIEBELER - That would have been in November 1962, would it not, Mr. Bouhe, that he moved to the apartment you are speaking of?
    Mr. BOUHE - Yes; and I would say that is pretty good because I think the FBI agent told me they proved that, or something.

    On November 28, 1963 George Bouhe was interviewed by SA John Flanagan about any possible relationship between Jack Ruby and Lee Oswald.

    https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=10672&relPageId=400&search=Bouhe

    In the course of the interview, Bouhe "produced a card on which he kept addresses and this card bore the notation dated November 1, 1963, 602 Elsbeth..."

    Following his residence at the YMCA, he said Oswald secured a room in the Oak Cliff area of Dallas, but he could not recall this address, nor did he have a record of it in his papers. At this point Mr. Bouhe produced a card on which he kept addresses.”

    1963 is a typo. This should be 1962

    Steve Thomas

  6. 4 hours ago, John Butler said:

    The two Oswalds act or interact in such a manner that it is difficult to pin down which one does what. 

     

    John,

    Harvey Lee Oswald is a name, a file, a dossier. You see it surface in Mexico City, in Russia, and in the intelligence files of federal and local law enforcement agencies. It is different than the Harvey and Lee Oswald doppelgangers  of John Armstrong and Jim Hargrove.

    Both Will Fritz and Jesse Curry told the WC that they didn't know who Lee Harvey Oswald was, and had no idea he was living in Dallas, and yet the first name on the list of TSBD employees was Harvey Lee Oswald who was living on Elsbeth St. (which had left in April, 1963). That address did not come from the Texas School Depository personnel records.

    The list of TSBD employees reproduced in CE2003 can also be found in the Portal to Texas History

    https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth190982/?q=Texas%20School%20Book%20Depository%20employees

    This list was drawn up by the Special Service Bureau of the Dallas Criminal Intelligence Division.

    Sheriff Decker's file on the assassination, given to the Warren Commission list the assailant's name as "Harvey Lee Oswald"

    (12H51) (CE 5323) Deposition of Sheriff Decker dark brown heavy folder with a label on the outside: Harvey Lee Oswald.

    The name's origins are shrouded in mystery and its purposes are unknown.

    Steve Thomas

  7. On 5/14/2022 at 9:37 AM, John Butler said:

      You can tell from the portions of the transcript of the witnesses that Oswald was hiding his address and eventually gave it up.  He never denied living on North Beckley.

     

    John,

    I've never been able to satisfy In my own mind, exactly which Oswald they were looking for.

    Oswald was arrested at around 1:50 PM, and arrived back at Police Headquarters around 2:00 PM. Fritz began questioning him around 2:20 PM.

    At 2:40 PM, W.E. Potts, B.L. Senkel and Lt. E.L. Cunningham were dispatched to 1026 N. Beckley. Potts wrote in his after-action report

    https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth338564/m1/1/?q=Potts ]

    that after he finished taking some affidavits, Fritz dispatched them to the Beckely St address at 2:40 and they arrived at Beckley at 3:00PM.

    Detective B.L. Senkel also said in his after action report that they arrived at 1026 N. Beckley at 3:00PM.

    But, when they got there...

    WC testimony of Earlene Roberts April 8, 1964

    http://jfkassassination.net/russ/testimony/robertse.htm

    Mr. BALL. Do you remember the day the President was shot?
    Mrs. ROBERTS. Yes; I remember it---who would forget that?
    Mr. BALL. And the police officers came out there?
    Mrs. ROBERTS. Yes, sir.
    Mr. BALL. Do you remember what they said?
    Mrs. ROBERTS.
    Well, it was Will Fritz' men---it was plainclothesmen and I was at the back doing something and Mr. Johnson answered the door and they identified themselves and then he called me.
    Mr. BALL. What did they say?
    Mrs. ROBERTS. Well, they asked him if there was a
    Harvey Lee Oswald there.

     

    Mr. BALL. And you didn't have that name you didn't ever know his name was Lee Oswald?
    Mrs. ROBERTS. No---he registered as O. H. Lee and they were asking for
    Harvey Lee Oswald.

     

    According to Will Fritz, someone, whose name he could not remember gave him Oswald's Beckley address before he began interrogating Oswald:
    (4H207)

    Mr. FRITZ. When I started to talk to this prisoner or maybe just before I started to talk to him, some officer told me outside of my office that he had a room on Beckley, I don't know who that officer was, I think we can find out, I have since I have talked to you this morning I have talked to Lieutenant Baker and he says I know maybe who that officer was, but I am not sure yet.

     

    What in the world is going on here?

    Steve Thomas

  8. 1 hour ago, John Butler said:

    Steve,

    Neat photo.  I will add this to my collection on Souetre.

    John,

    Here's another one:

    souetr11.thumb.jpg.575ed0e85739a01b58e974b82b6f4d10.jpg

    On his left pocket flap: (translated)

    Commander Coulet is causing this badge. It is based on the Insignia Polish paratroopers beret which he holds.

    https://chemin-memoire-para.superforum.fr/t12436-historique-du-gcpa

    Badge silver openwork metal eagle based on its prey, surmounting a square bearing the motto "Sicut AQUILA" (As the Eagle).

    Sous l’impulsion du Général de MARICOURT c’est en 1956 que les commandos de l’air sont créés. Ils participeront jusqu’en 1962 à la guerre d’Algérie

    (Under the dierction of General Maricourt, it signified members of the Air Corps who served in Algeria between 1956 and 1962)

    On his right pocket is his parachutists badge.

    The badge on his beret signifies either the 20th or the 40th Regiment. I'm not sure which.

    He has three stripes on his epaulet, so I think that means he's a Captain. If so, the badge on his beret would indicate the 40th GCPA.

    image.png.b9e97000b817c710bc6df5cb7cbe8210.png

    Steve Thomas

  9. 28 minutes ago, Steve Thomas said:

    I suspect, but cannot prove, it is the same picture the French were using to alert the German and Italian authorities to be on the lookout, for some 500 OAS sympathizers and members in 1962.

    Steve Thomas

     

    This CIA cable was in reference to an upcoming visit by DeGaulle to Mexico City (I think it was, slated for March of 1964.

    A CIA document dated November 1, 1962 gives a list of the OAS members furnished to the Italian authorities. The list was given to Italian border police and replaced a longer list of some 562 people. It says the list was current as of August 27, 1962. An asterisk placed beside some names indicated that a photograph accompanied the name of the person. Souetre has an asterisk beside his name.


    NARA Record Number: 1993.08.05.10:50:12:500006

    http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=64991&relPageId=3

     

    http://www.50elysee.com/fileadmin/user_upload/AFP/ARCHIVE/4-DE_GAULLE-Allemagne-4-5.9.1962.pdf

    (This link is broken and the pdf can no longer be found)

    In September, 1962, Charles DeGaulle traveled to West Germany for a state visit.

    In advance of his visit the West German Security Services asked the French Surete for photographs of several chief men of the O.A.S. Among these were ex-colonels Goddard and Antoine Argoud; ex-captains Souetre, Sergent, Curutchet; and ex-senator Dumont.

    (see p. 5 of this document)

     

    https://www.dw.com/en/elysee-a-treaty-for-friendship/a-16513200

    Two months later, from September 4-9, de Gaulle visited West Germany and reaffirmed his readiness for reconciliation. In Ludwigsburg, the president addressed German youth.”

    Steve Thomas

  10. 17 minutes ago, Leslie Sharp said:

    Perhaps these photos will prompt a renewed discussion related to confusion surrounding the physical identities of Jean Rene Souetre and Michel Mertz. 

    Clockwise:

    1. Upper left corner, Jean Souetre.

    375703930_Souetre-Mertzidentityconfusion.pdf 271.9 kB · 5 downloads

    Leslie,

    Just so you know. The picture of Souetre in the upper left hand corner is the picture the CIA used to accompany the famous 632-796 memo the CIA put out in April. 1964.

    https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=105715#relPageId=6&search=Vrla

    see p. 6.

     

    https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=105715&search=Vrla#relPageId=7&tab=page

     

    I suspect, but cannot prove, it is the same picture the French were using to alert the German and Italian authorities to be on the lookout, for some 500 OAS sympathizers and members in 1962.

    Steve Thomas

  11. Republicans Criticize Biden For Not Starving Undocumented Immigrant Babies

    By  Elise Foley May. 12, 2022

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/marjorie-taylor-greene-baby-formula-immigration_n_627d4f7ce4b016d742f8c7e2

     

    “Republicans criticized the Biden administration on Thursday for providing food to infants detained in its custody — effectively suggesting the babies should be starved because of their immigration status.

    The Biden administration has been sending pallets of baby formula for illegal mothers and their babies while American mothers and babies cannot find baby formula,” Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.) said at a news conference. “This is completely unacceptable, and this needs to end now.”

    Baby formula should go to Americans before illegals,” Rep. Troy Nehls (R-Texas) wrote on Twitter. “This should not have to be said.”

    Texas Gov. Greg Abbott (R) accused the administration of giving “critical supplies to illegal immigrants before the very people he took an oath to serve.””

     

    At least Marie Antoinette offered to give them cake.

    Steve Thomas

  12. 18 hours ago, John Butler said:

    Thanks Steve,

    This was the kind of answer I was looking for.  However, the Oswald in Russia time period is from 1959 to 1962.  

    What happened to Souetre after he left his regiment in 1960?  Any ideas?

    John,

    Because of his outspoken opposition to Algeria becoming an independent country from France, Souetre was transferred back home. Rather than accept that transfer, Souetre deserted. He went underground, and formed the first "Maquis", or underground resistance group. He holed up on a farm in Oursanis, and was captured in January, 1961. He spent all of 1961 in prison and missed the Revolt of the Generals in April, 1961. 

    In December, 1961, he was put on trial, and was put more or less on probation. Because DeGaulle had invoked Article 16 of the French Constitution, a Military Tribunal stepped in; overrode the Civil Authorities, and sentenced him to a prison camp in the south of France called Saint-Maurice l'Ardoise. In the early morning hours of February 18, 1962, he broke out of prison with 17 other men by digging a 35 foot tunnel under the prison walls along the same lines as the movie, The Great Escape.  10 of the men were immediately re-captured, but the remaining 8 remained at large, Souetre among them. He made his way to Spain and Portugal and went underground.

    While he was confined in the prison campn, he somehow found time to marry his second wife, a woman named Josette from a prominent family in the Bodeaux region of France. It was quite the scandal of its time. The wedding was featured in an article in the Paris Match magazine. The General who served as the official witness to the wedding (the equivalent of our best man), was a hippy who once declared that he would rather put flowers in the barrels of soldiers guns than make war, and who organized a rock concert for the Rolling Stones.

    He was suspected by the police and the press of being involved in the attack on Charles DeGaulle at Petit Clamart in August, 1962, but I have seen no evidence of that. At one time, he and Jean Marie Curutchet were the two most wanted men in France.

    It's an absolutely fascinating story.

    Steve Thomas

     

  13. 1 hour ago, John Butler said:

    Some where I have read or seen something that suggests the person with Oswald in this photo taken in Russia is Jean Souetre.  I couldn't find that on a recent search of the forum and net.

    So, is this Souetre?  

    I put together this to help decide.

    Your opinion will be valued.

    John,

    Sorry. In 1959, Jean-Rene Souetre was the Captain of the GCPA 40/541 Commandos d'lair  (Air Commandos - a rapid reaction fighting force), serving in Algeria. He was the Captain of this regiment from November, 1957 to April, 1960.

    Steve Thomas

  14. Five years ago, Trump secretly celebrated firing FBI director and gave Russians classified intel inside the Oval Office

    by David Badash, The New Civil Rights Movement May 09, 2022

    https://www.rawstory.com/five-years-ago-trump-secretly-celebrated-firing-fbi-director-gave-russians-classified-intel-inside-the-oval-office/

     

    “Exactly five years ago tomorrow then-President Donald Trump gave top Russian officials code word classified top secret intelligence, putting Israeli spies at risk, and celebrated his firing of FBI Director Jim Comey, all during a meeting inside the Oval Office. No American journalists were allowed to be present, but a photographer from Russian state media was. “

    “Ten days after firing Coney the world would learn that inside that secret Oval Office meeting Trump told the Russians: “I just fired the head of the F.B.I. He was crazy, a real nut job,” as The New York Times reported.

    “I faced great pressure because of Russia. That’s taken off.”

     

    Steve Thomas

  15. 3 hours ago, Greg Doudna said:

     

    What is your alternative narrative on how Oswald gets to the rooming house at 1 pm and then to the Theatre from there, if not by the bus, taxi, then bus again? 

     

    Greg,

    By any chance have you researched the bus schedules for buses going down Beckley?

    Earlene Roberts says Oswald was in a hurry, and the last time she saw him, he was standing by the bus stop.

    She didn't say if he was standing by the stop that went south, or by the one going north.

    I wonder if that was why he was in a hurry. He didn't want to miss his bus. Catching a bus heading south towards the Theater makes a lot of sense, and would explain why no one ever saw him walking the streets towards the Theater, or to 10th and Patton, for that matter

    Steve Thomas

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