I've seen this face before.

Cindy McCain

Oh, yeah. Now I remember

Mr. Bill

Steve Thomas

"Do you want your kids growing up in a country where anyone can vote?

Even Detroit?"

https://youtu.be/NhgQpdTgoME

Steve Thomas

Jessica Watkins didn't "really" meet with the Secret Service prior to the January 6th insurrection attempt.

She "encountered" them.

She was stopped at the check-in point and told to leave her s*** behind.

I'm so glad we got that minor little point straightened out.

https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.226726/gov.uscourts.dcd.226726.29.0.pdf

(UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
FOR THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA )
(v. ) 21-CR-128 (APM)
(JESSICA WATKINS )

CLARIFICATION TO DEFENDANT’S MOTION FOR RELEASE AND ADDITIONAL LETTER OF SUPPORT
Jessica Watkins, through counsel, respectfully submits this clarification to her motion for release pending the outcome of her case. Counsel apologizes for being less than clear on a couple of points raised in the original motion – something that unfortunately became obvious by media inquiries. Counsel in no way meant to imply that Ms. Watkins met with the Secret Service. A better verb would have been “encountered.” Ms. Watkins spoke with Secret Service members early in the day when she was coming through the check in point for the VIP area. The point counsel was attempting to make was that she encountered law enforcement, including Secret Service officer on her way to providing security for the rally. She was given directives about things she could and could not do, including directions to leave all tactical gear outside of the VIP area, and she abided by all of those directives. Ms. Watkins does not suggest that she has any direct knowledge that her role as security was sanctioned by anyone other than people involved in organizing the rally. She certainly did not mean to suggest that she was hired by the U.S. Secret Service to perform security. Counsel again apologizes for any confusion created by the inartful language used in the motion.
Second, Ms. Watkins wants the Court to know that she has not been mistreated by the staff at the D.C. Central Treatment Facility. To date, while in the custody of the D.C.
Case 1:21-cr-00028-APM Document 29 Filed 02/22/21 Page 1 of 2
2
Department of Corrections, she has been treated with respect and dignity. That was not her experience prior to her arrival in the District of Columbia. Counsel has been contacted by the Butler County Sherriff’s Department, which disputes the description of Ms. Watkins’ treatment at their facility, but acknowledges she was placed on suicide protocols. Ms. Watkins denies ever being suicidal or expressing suicidal thoughts, and stands by her assertions that she was placed on suicide watch for retaliatory reasons despite repeated assertions that she was not suicidal.
Finally, Counsel is attaching an additional letter of support that arrived after the prior submission.
Respectfully submitted,
A. J. KRAMER
FEDERAL PUBLIC DEFENDER
/s/ _____________________________ Michelle Peterson
Chief Assistant Federal Public Defender 625 Indiana Avenue, NW Washington, DC 20004
(202) 208-7500 Shelli_Peterson@fd.org
Case 1:21-cr-00028-APM Document 29 Filed 02/22/21 Page 2 of 2

Steve Thomas

At least Bin Laden had more books.

Steve Thomas

I Stand With Champ!

Newsmax attacked Joe Biden's 12 year old German Shepherd, Champ for being a junkyard dog.

SOB's.

I Stand With Champ!

Steve Thomas

The Government's 21 page indictment against the Oath Keepers for a conspiracy to "stop, delay and hinder Congress's certification of the Electoral College vote".

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/oath-keepers-trump-capitol-attack_n_60302260c5b6cc8bbf3b9304

One Oath Keeper claimed to the others. "You are executing citizen's arrest. Arrest this assembly, we have probable cause for acts of treason, election fraud."

Steve Thomas

3 hours ago, Ron Bulman said:

 After about 3 minutes a man came "busting out the back door".  Had to be the door in Pat's picture.  Initially almost straight toward him, then right past him toward Pacific. Yet he never saw his face.  Just him running away towards Pacific.  His dark sports coat flapping against his light colored pants as he ran.

I think he almost had to have seen the man's face but was scared to admit it or was told he didn't.

 

Ron,

Just a small point of correction...

The guy that Worrell saw coming out of the TSBD turned away from him and ran in a southerly direction back towards Main St. It was Worrell himself who went down Pacific. Worrell mostly saw only the guy's back.

See CE 2003 Report of K.L. Anderton at 24H pp 294-5

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=1140&search=%22James_Worrell%22#relPageId=312&tab=page

Took Worrell’s Affidavit.

Steve Thomas

In the spirit of whatever,

All Your Base Are Belong To Us is 20 years old this week.

https://youtu.be/8fvTxv46ano

Steve Thomas

I fell out of my chair laughing.

Steve Thomas

Here is a 01/26/1970 interview by Al Chapman with Sam Pate.

This was uploaded to the Education Forum by Bart Kamp in March of 2019 in a thread entitled, "Sam Pate"

https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/25668-sam-pate/

Pate speaks of monitoring the Dallas Police Department's Channel 2 radio frequency, and seeing a puff of smoke arising from " a guttered area almost at the entrance to the Triple Underpass".

https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/25668-sam-pate/

Steve Thomas

17 minutes ago, Steve Thomas said:

At the 57 second mark of this video, you see what the KBOX mobile unit looked like:

https://www.facebook.com/holstead/videos/10201912471446075/

Steve Thomas

And, at the 6 second mark, and the 12 second mark of this video, you can see the KBOX mobile unit in the railroad yards behind the TSBD:

https://www.facebook.com/SamPate/videos/10151084842461584/

Steve Thomas

1 hour ago, Steve Thomas said:

Larry,

Another small lead, and something else to think about...

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/romack.htm

 

Mr. BELIN. Did you watch those stairs?
Mr. ROMACK. Yes, sir.
Mr. BELIN. How long did you watch them after you saw the policeman leave?
Mr. ROMACK. Well, I watched them all the time until someone arrived, and the only time I did take my back off, turn my back to the building was Sam Pate with his KBOX news, he arrived before any of the police or anyone.
Mr. BELIN. Is that KBOX
Mr. ROMACK. Yes.
Mr. BELIN. Is that a radio or television station?
Mr. ROMACK. It is a radio station.

 

 

At the 57 second mark of this video, you see what the KBOX mobile unit looked like:

https://www.facebook.com/holstead/videos/10201912471446075/

Steve Thomas

On 2/16/2021 at 11:09 AM, Larry Hancock said:

There has been so much controversy over this rear exit issue that I'd like to see the most current ideas as to which, if any, of the reports should really be considered substantive - which of course would also mean that the source could be confirmed as having been in that area and having described something consistent.

-- thanks, Larry

 

Larry,

Another small lead, and something else to think about...

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/romack.htm

Mr. BELIN. Did you watch those stairs?
Mr. ROMACK. Yes, sir.
Mr. BELIN. How long did you watch them after you saw the policeman leave?
Mr. ROMACK. Well, I watched them all the time until someone arrived, and the only time I did take my back off, turn my back to the building was Sam Pate with his KBOX news, he arrived before any of the police or anyone.
Mr. BELIN. Is that KBOX
Mr. ROMACK. Yes.
Mr. BELIN. Is that a radio or television station?
Mr. ROMACK. It is a radio station.

Mr. BELIN. Did you see any employees walk up the back way?
Mr. ROMACK. There was two other gentlemen which I never said anything.about, that taken over. They were FBI or something standing right here at the very entrance, and just stood there.
Mr. BELIN. You are pointing again to the back stairway that leads up from the street to the dock on the north side of the building?
Mr. ROMACK. Right.

Testimony of D.V. Harkness. Warren Commission Hearings and Exhibits, volume VI, p. 312, as cited in the History Matters Archive, http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk..._Vol6_0161b.htm

A Sergeant in the Dallas Police Department for a little over 17 years, D.V. Harkness was responsible for supervising the traffic officers from Main and Field along the parade route to Elm and Houston. Harkness was on a three-wheeled motorcycle and at the time of the shots, he drove to Main and Industrial to see if he could see anyone fleeing the area. Seeing none, he drove to the front of the TSBD and along the fence that runs alongside the Elm St. Extension. There he encountered Amos Euins. After hearing what Euins had to say about seeing a rifle in a window, Harkness put him on the back of his motorcycle and delivered him to Inspector Sawyer’s car. He then went around to the back of the TSBD. Warren Commission Belin asked him if there was anyone else in the back of the building. Harkness answered, “There were some Secret Service agents there. I didn't get them identified. They told me they were Secret Service..” Harkness remained at the back of the building until a squad relieved him.

Who were these plain-clothed gentlemen who were not police and have never been identified?

Steve Thomas

Tim Boyd, former Mayor of Colorado City, TX.

(he has since resigned).

Steve Thomas

1 hour ago, James DiEugenio said:

In my opinion, this would be a successful route to finding out the truth.

There are two elements I think that need to be explored: the meeting the night before, and Ali Alexander and his cooperations with certain congressmen.  The FBI should be using all kinds of methods to find this guy, including rewards. 

Jim,

For me, the most damning piece of evidence is the Permit.

Item# 62 on page 16 of the lawsuit says that the Permit expressly did not authorize any kind of of march. For me, at that point, when Trump told the crowd that "we are going to walk down Pennsylvania Ave.", he was breaking the law. He can't shroud himself in any kind of 1st Amendment legal protection or anything else.

Steve Thomas

1 hour ago, Larry Hancock said:

Someone recently contacted me about the conflicting stories of people seen exiting the rear of the TSBD at the time of the assassination and I'm interesting in seeing thoughts as to what the group feels are the most well documented or corroborated sources which do claim unknown individuals were at the rear of the building in the minutes following the shooting.  One of the details that has bothered me in the past is that as best I can tell the rear doors opened on a loading dock and any individual exiting would have needed to go to the end of the elevated dock, down a short set of stairs and then "away" - or loitering in the area as one police officer reported. 

There has been so much controversy over this rear exit issue that I'd like to see the most current ideas as to which, if any, of the reports should really be considered substantive - which of course would also mean that the source could be confirmed as having been in that area and having described something consistent.

-- thanks, Larry

 

Larry,

Any account of the rear exit would have to include James Worrell.

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/m_j_russ/worrell.htm

Mr. SPECTER - Will you mark that "Y" where you stopped and rested and tell us how long you stopped there?
(Witness marking.)
Mr. WORRELL - How long?
Mr. SPECTER - Yes, sir.
Mr. WORRELL - I was there approximately 3 minutes before I saw this man come out the back door here.

Mr. SPECTER - What did he --
Mr. WORRELL - He wasn't holding nothing when he was running. He was just running.
Mr. SPECTER - What did you observe him do if, anything?
Mr. WORRELL - Well, when he ran out here, he ran along the side of the Depository Building and then when he got --

CE 362 is a photograph of the loading dock.

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=1133#relPageId=982&tab=page

A long time ago, I read the account of a citizen who was stationed at a sawhorse, or a barricade of some sort and was assigned by a policeman to watch the back door to make sure no one came out, but for the life of me, I can't remember his name.

Steve Thomas

"Former President Donald Trump and attorney Rudy Giuliani are being accused of conspiring with the far-right groups Proud Boys and Oath Keepers to incite the January 6 insurrection in a civil lawsuit filed Tuesday in federal court by the Democratic chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee and backed by the NAACP."

Read the lawsuit here:

https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/16/politics/dem-lawsuit-against-trump-naacp/index.html

Steve Thomas

January 6, 2021

Dear Mr. Troglodyte,

Involuntary manslaughter is defined as the unintentional death of an individual as a result of another person's negligent actions.

In the United States, all states define negligent homicide by statute, often defining the offense as involuntary manslaughter.[1]

https://reischlawfirm.com/criminally-negligent-homicide-vs-manslaughter-whats-difference/

“The law states that you can be charged with criminally negligent homicide if your criminally negligent behavior caused the death of another person. On the other hand, the law states that you can be charged with manslaughter if your reckless behavior caused the death of another person. Therefore, the difference between these two crimes is the type of behavior that caused the victim’s death.

Criminal Negligence vs. Reckless Behavior

Criminal negligence is legally defined as the failure to realize that your behavior is so dangerous that it could kill someone. In order to prove you were criminally negligent, the prosecution must be able to show that a reasonable person in your situation would have realized that their behavior was potentially dangerous.

In the eyes of the law, you are reckless when you act in a manner that puts others at risk even though you are aware that your behavior could seriously harm or kill another person.

To put it simply, the difference between these two legal definitions comes down to risk awareness. A person who is criminally negligent did not realize his behavior was dangerous, even though he should have, whereas a reckless person knew his behavior was dangerous, but ignored the risks.”

Steve Thomas

9 hours ago, Steve Thomas said:

“Trump stood in the middle of Washington, D.C., pointed his supporters at Congress and fired. Seven people ― three police officers, including two by suicide, and four Trump supporters ― died as a result of the president’s actions. And his party let him off the hook.”

 

I wonder if the Trumpyites (troglodytes) are proud of themselves. That's a hell of a casualty list.

7 dead. 140 wounded.

What's next? Shiloh? Antietam?

Steve Thomas

The GOP Just Spit in the Face of American Democracy

bt Michael Tomasky Feb. 13, 2021

https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-gop-just-spit-in-the-face-of-american-democracy-by-acquitting-trump-at-his-second-impeachment-trial?ref=home

“Well, now we know. We know how the Republican Party wants to go down in history. They’ve made it as clear as could be.

First, two-thirds of the members of the Republican caucus of the House of Representatives voted on Jan. 6 to refuse to affirm the results of the presidential election. They continued doing so, we know, after the riot, after Capitol Hill Police Officer Brian Sicknick lay dead, after a mob had defaced the Capitol building. Denying Joe Biden the presidency was, of course, the mission of the mob. So two-thirds of House Republicans voted to condone the mob. And now, we’ve seen that 86 percent of Republican senators have voted to deny what’s in front of their noses and insist that Donald Trump bears no blame they can provide for the riot he incited.

In sum, congressional Republicans have put themselves on record saying that they are, in effect, untroubled by the worst assault on our democracy since the Civil War. The rioters were justified, said the two-thirds of House Republicans who agreed that Biden wasn’t really elected. And Senate Republicans said that the president who urged them to march on the Capitol and fight like hell or you won’t have a country anymore and then sat back and watched and did nothing to stop it (and to this day has never denounced it) bore no responsibility for the assault, or at least none that they could mete out. Those 43 Republicans just spit in the face of American democracy.”

SteveThomas

A Broken Party Acquitted Donald Trump In His Second Impeachment

“The ex-president’s boast he could get away with murder proved true.”

By Paul Blumenthal 02/13/2021

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-impeachment-acquit_n_6027e114c5b6f88289fbfc0f

“Back in January 2016, before Donald Trump won his first presidential primary, before he secured his position atop the Republican Party and before he won the White House, he mused about the unbreakable bond between himself and his supporters with a joke about murder.

“I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn’t lose voters,” Trump said, to a laughing audience, while pointing his finger at them like a gun. “OK? It’s, like, incredible.”

What was once true of his supporters is now true of nearly the entire Republican Party.”

“Trump stood in the middle of Washington, D.C., pointed his supporters at Congress and fired. Seven people ― three police officers, including two by suicide, and four Trump supporters ― died as a result of the president’s actions. And his party let him off the hook.”

Steve Thomas

15 hours ago, Joe Bauer said:

No Senator could even imagine or would ever condone their rally crowds going smashing, injury and even murder minded crazy like this after they happened to say to them "fight" in a campaign rally speech.

 

 

I will never view a high school football game in the same light again, and I think every cheerleader in the country should be investigated.

Steve Thomas

Tuberville comments help fuel House case against Trump

By KYLE CHENEY and ANDREW DESIDERIO 02/11/2021

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/02/11/trump-impeachment-trial-day-3-468588

“Sen. Tommy Tuberville revealed late Wednesday that he spoke to then-President Donald Trump on Jan. 6, just as a violent mob closed in on the Senate, and informed Trump that then-Vice President Mike Pence had just been evacuated from the chamber.

“I said ‘Mr. President, they just took the vice president out, I’ve got to go,'” the Alabama Republican told POLITICO on Capitol Hill, saying he cut the phone call short amid the chaos.

House managers say the Trump-Tuberville call took place shortly after 2 p.m. Pence was evacuated from the chamber at about 2:15 p.m., and Trump sent his tweet attacking Pence at 2:24 p.m. The entire Senate was cleared by about 2:30 p.m.

...the call occurred at virtually the same moment Trump fired off a tweet attacking Pence for lacking “courage” to unilaterally attempt to overturn the presidential election results — a tweet that came after Pence and his family were rushed from the Senate chamber. “

"Mike Pence didn't have the courage to do what should have been done to protect our Country and our Constitution," Trump said.

Trump knew that Pence was in danger, and wasn’t even in the Chamber to affect any change..

The rioters responded by shouting, “Hang Mike Pence”! “Hang Mike Pence”!

Don’t tell me Trump wasn’t calling the shots. He deliberately tried to have Mike Pence killed.

Steve Thomas

7 hours ago, David Lifton said:

Quoting Steve Thomas:

QUOTE ON:

Yes, various people assert the fancy bronze casket was never out of view, even for a moment, after JFK's body was put in.

And yet there seems to be multiple credible witnesses that JFK's body arrived at Bethesda in a steel-colored, government-issue ordinary casket. 

Lifton posits the body was switched while in flight. I have always wondered if AF1 carried a government-issued casket as part of regular supplies. After all, AF1 could be expected to cross the Pacific from time to time with a bunch of older men on board, and a death might occur. Having a casket on board might not be so strange. 

Still, JFK aides say they sat with the bronze casket through the flight. Something fishy happened. QUOTE OFF

 

David,

I think you may be quoting someone else here. I don't remember ever writing that. Could you tell me where and when I wrote that? I'm puzzled because I don't use the word "posits" as part of my normal vernacular.

Steve Thomas

Posted by David Andrews in the Education Fourom 23 August 2012 - 12:48 AM entitled:

How JFK's body was wrapped.

David Andrews in the Education Forum 8/22/12

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=19412

“Kellerman's and other SS agents' behavior on leaving Parkland in a hurry, with guns drawn, knocking people out of the way, could have been to prevent Texas authorities' possession and opening of an empty coffin. (Otherwise, it was necessary to keep the pre-autopsy alterations in DC on schedule.)

I tend to think that David Lifton was on track in Best Evidence, and JFK's body actually returned to Washington on Air Force Two (the V-P plane). Which would mean switching the body at Parkland.”

Edited by David Andrews, 23 August 2012 - 12:52 AM.

David Sanders, who helped clean Trauma Room# 1 Price Ehibit 25 http://www.aarclibrary.org/publib/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh21/pdf/WH21_Price_Ex_2-35.pdf page 75

said that after Jackie came in and placed her ring on JFK's finger and kissing his hand, she left the room. Afterwards they placed the body in the casket.

Diana Bowron Price Exhibit 12

http://www.aarclibrary.org/publib/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh21/pdf/WH21_Price_Ex_2-35.pdf page 55

“When Mrs. Kennedy had left we placed the President's body on a plastic sheet in the casket. We all left the room and Mrs Kennedy entered alone and stayed with the body until it was removed a short time later.”

ACTIVITIES OF MARGARET HINCHLIFFE. Price Exhibit 30

http://www.aarclibrary.org/publib/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh21/pdf/WH21_Price_Ex_2-35.pdf page 91

“After Mrs.Kennedy and the priests left the room, Miss Bowron and myself, with the assistance of David Sanders, the orderly, prepared the body... We remained with the body until he was placed in the casket. Then, Mrs. Kennedy entered the room and everyone left the room and waited outside until the President's body was taken from the hospital.”

I tend to agree with David. I think the fight in the hallway was over an empty coffin.

I don't know how they managed it, but I think the coffin was empty. That makes a whole lot more sense than needing to fly JFK's body all the way back to Washington so they could an autopsy and to get Jackie out of Dallas.

Steve Thomas