David G. Healy
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Got it David, that's great stuff. I recognize most of it; I worked Air Force Communications Service handling AUTOVON voice switching equipment fed off Tropo. so I'm not that familiar with the radio gear. Separate personnel handled the radio and then we had tech controllers in between the radio and land line circuits. We just worried about switching.
Anyway, that's exactly what I expected would be the long distance SSB gear. Per discussion with Bill I'm still assuming that AF1 would have had to have at least four SSB sets to hold up four long distance circuits. Also, if all four were at Andrews that would be four units there with a tape recorder on each for that channel. Which really means multiple tapes, one for each voice channel.
Let me know if that sounds stupid...grin, Larry
that Ft. Benning to the Dominican Repub shot was a mobile unit (jeep mounted) working off of a 16' whip antenna in a pine tree... very effective.
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David, sorry to be slow but then the two units are necessary for a full duplex - both ends talking at one time - operation? One unit would require the old "over" protocol with
one end only talking then handing it off to the other.
Do you recall whether these were UHF or HF....what their range was?
-- thanks, Larry
Collins rigs I worked with at BaQueo Vietnam (primary in-country receive site) incoming traffic from Okinowa, Manila, Bangkok... crystal controlled 20-40 meters and tropo-scatter (Feb'63-Feb '64). ALL Collins Receivers!
UHF, single side-band, for the units I worked with in '64-'65... no Larry, one Collins Trans-ceiver unit will work just fine for standard transmit-recieve operation. Think military level command level for duplex op, those that you NEED to hear ALL the time, you wil atmospheric conditions cooperating of coursel...
Had full voice comm at 4x4 average and 5x5 (evenings) from land based Fort Benning (Kelley Hill), Georgia to San Ysidro Airport--Dominican Republic April 1965. Different Collins equipment with 7 operation
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Bill,
I was trying to identify the logo pictured in the middle of this equipment:
There seems to be an articulated "S" or some other letter in the middle. It does not look like a "Collins" logo at first glance.
Here's a Collins Radio Company Archive (logo in middle of newsletter at top):
http://www.lib.uiowa.edu/spec-coll/msc/tomsc850/msc814/collinsradiocompanyrecords.html
those are Collins radios, the radios look the same vintage equipment (possibly the ones I operated were a bit older and larger) I operated in Vietnam (out-of-country comm) in 1963-64. Can't remember nomenclature...
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Chris, I think you're on the right track.
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Back to this video: the "big" unit that appears in the photo seems to be the transmitter unit on the right in the video (on the operators left in the photo) and the receiver is on the right. It seems that if this is the case then the photo might be "staged" - why wouldn't the operator of a transmitter have a microphone?
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what I gather the above Youtube video shows is a dual transceiver config (2 units same make and model). One unit to transmit, one to receive... both on 20 meter band, separate freq's. Why two units? Communicants can *both* speak and hear at the same time, conversation is truly two-way, although the verb "over" is used to end a transmission, and proper protocol, its not necessary to the conversation.
If, in your research you run across tapes where there is no "over" used to end one side of traffic, then you're probably hearing only one side of the conversation... eh?
btw, I haven't seen "7's" since 1964-65...
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I am not that hard on Ventura. I think he is earnest. He had many shows in his series where he investigated conspiracy theories and debunked them. In one of his episodes he tells the story of what it was like on day 1 of his governorship. As he describes it, he sat down in a room with a very large table at which were seated many people he did not recognize and who were unidentified, but were clearly intelligence types, shadow govt etc., and realized at that moment that he knew almost nothing about the power establishment. I believe it was the beginning of his education in how little power an elected official really has, even a governor or a president. He has a lot of courage, apparent in his on air confrontations. I don't want to overdo my admiration, but it is considerable.
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In terms of the JFK assassination, he managed to get himself hooked up with Jim Fetzer, who used to be at UMD. To my thinking, this has not been beneficial to JV because, as we know, Fetzer tends to push the wildest theories available. It is surprising he hasn't managed to take JV with him.
Dr. James Fetzer *retired* from the University of Minnesota-Duluth. Some how in his "misguided ways" managed to obtain the Distinguished McKnight University Professor award. Imagine that! And, from his UoM website ( http://www.d.umn.edu/~jfetzer/ ):
"He has published more than 100 articles and reviews and 20 books in the philosophy of science and on the theoretical foundations of computer science, artificial intelligence, and cognitive science. On this web page, his publications have been divided by area, including special vitae for computer science, artificial intelligence, cognitive science, evolution and cognition, and his applied philosophical research on the death of JFK. His biographical sketch has appeared in many reference works, including the DIRECTORY OF AMERICAN SCHOLARS, WHO'S WHO IN THE MIDWEST, WHO'S WHO IN AMERICA, and WHO'S WHO IN THE WORLD. It may be found, for example, in the DIRECTORY OF AMERICAN SCHOLARS, 10th edition, WHO'S WHO IN AMERICA, 55th edition (2001), and WHO'S WHO IN THE WORLD, 18th edition (2001)."
It's certainly understandable why select individuals wish only for his failure... So how 'bout that limo? Which of course we all realize would never be allowed in evidence...
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The one about Oswald not being able to work the bolt on his Carcano fast enough to perform the Dallas shooting is always good for a large-sized laugh, especially when we see Ventura HIMSELF--a military man--pretending that it's the hardest chore imaginable.
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now who would you trust regarding rifle matters Jesse Ventura or the below fob: John Mcadams (aka Paul Nolan)? ? ?
http://www.prouty.org/mcadams/nolan2.jpg during the "stationary sandbag shootout" a lone nut extravaganza... starring .John and Todd Vaughn...
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<snip the nonsense>
what a crock of lone nut, LBJ inspired crap! Only Warren would see the pic's and the x-ray's. What arrogance! And you defend this WCR junk?
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The great public service DiEugenio provides us today...
"Great public service"???
What a load of garbage.DiEugenio hasn't gotten a thing right yet. And I doubt he started a winning streak with his whining about Tom Hanks.
you're sounding suspiciously like your lone nut glee club at alt.conspiracy.jfk... is it infectious? Btw, Hanks makes a ton of money, but he's still a lone nut-shill moron! He could of saved himself all sorts of professional grief, he should of enlisted in the Army.
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Robert, I thought that to be the general consenus, in the research community, as well, but this was a surprising bit of information, at least to me, that Bill posted; 2) Joe Molina - worked in the credit dept. of TSBD, member of organization considered subversive so the DPD Special Services Unit - Jack Revil, Capt. Gannaway, et al. raided his home at 2 am on the morning of Sat. Nov. 23, to question Molina and get any subversive materials or evidence they could find in his home. So, the DPD, at least, were still looking.
looking for what?
The Dallas Police were still looking for suspects other than Oswald after midnight on Saturday Nov. 23rd when they raided Molina's home.
they already had their guy (Oswald). The Zapruder film was already in Washington, 3 shots 3 hits. What did they need Molina for?
Was conspiracy on DPD minds? Now THAT would be interesting.
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add this Gil Jesus link: http://www.giljesus....ice_lineups.htm
thanks to Josh Cron post #2 this thread
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Robert, I thought that to be the general consenus, in the research community, as well, but this was a surprising bit of information, at least to me, that Bill posted; 2) Joe Molina - worked in the credit dept. of TSBD, member of organization considered subversive so the DPD Special Services Unit - Jack Revil, Capt. Gannaway, et al. raided his home at 2 am on the morning of Sat. Nov. 23, to question Molina and get any subversive materials or evidence they could find in his home. So, the DPD, at least, were still looking.
looking for what?
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ya know.... challenging DVP is an exercise in futility... you might want to use your spare time reading Earl Warren's high school manifesto (if there is one). Useless and time wasting comes to mind.... just what the lone nuts want. The Warren Commission can't change, Bugliosi can't change and WON'T change and lone nut adherents like the DVP's of the lone nut variety, can't and WON'T change. Waste of time...
I like the direction Bill Kelly is going: additional suspects, for one... the Von Pein's of the world simply disappear in threads like that, they know only the WCR mantra... "LHO by his lonesome," did those herculean feats Nov 22nd 1963.
Keep up the good work Bill!
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The exhibit purportedly demonstrating that the lift came from the rifle is a big smudge, and demonstrates absolutely nothing.
That's your opinion. Others have a different opinion, as demonstrated by the Bugliosi book excerpt quoted earlier.
your lone nut, SBT, LHO did it all by his lonesome ship has sunk... carry on, son!
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And what version of Brennan's testimony are you pinning your hopes: first, second or third?
not asking for the secret recipe for KFC Crispy... speak up counselor.
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But the evidence Oswald left behind on the sixth floor is telling a different story, isn't it? (Not to mention Howard Brennan's testimony.)...
and what version of Brennan's testimony are you pinning your hopes: first, second or third?
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Mr. BALL - You think that the cartridges are in the same position as when you saw them in this picture 510?Mr. MOONEY - As far as my knowledge, they are; pretty close to right.
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who schooled Mooney re testifying, Bugliosi? "...pretty close to right."?
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According to Mooney, the Sheriff's deputy who discovered them, they were arranged all together in a line in a small area that you could put a bucket over, as if they were placed there and not in seemingly random positions they would be in if ejected from the rifle.
Now if Alyea's story is true, and I believe it to be so, even though the film he said he took is no longer in evidence, that Capt. Fritz would intentionally do something like that is not an accident, but intentional, and if intentional, he's telling us that such evidence doesn't matter, and that's how they - the Dallas PD seem to treat all the evidence.
Au contraire, i seems to me that Fritz may have done this intentionally because he thought that evidence does matter. He picked the shells up and threw them down again because he didn't want them photographed arranged all together in a line by whichever idiot had placed them that way.
didn't Fritz tuck away one of the 6.5mm cartridges in a desk draw for weeks? If so, what's the relevance as to all 6.5 cartridge casings re court evidence?
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>>> "JUST DON'T LUMP ME IN WITH EVERYONE ELSE YOU DON'T LIKE AND KEEP CALLING ME A CONSPIRACY THEORISTS BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE A THEORY TO PROMOTE." <<<You're promoting the unreasonable theory that Oswald didn't even fire a single shot at President Kennedy. And therefore that makes you one of the "Anybody But Oswald" conspiracy theorists I often refer to in my Internet posts. Based on your posts, you are indeed a member of that strange club. Why not face it? That's where the "guys like you" comes from.
you nutter-WCR-SBT-LHO did it all by his lonesome wannabes are certainly running scared! Why? Or, are you auditioning for a simple writing gig, AGAIN! What's with the nutter-machismo?
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I don't think so. Truman didn't wear that type of hat - he was more of a Panama hat type of guy, and unless you can show me a picture of Capote in a hat like that - then its only mere speculation on your part and not grounded on any bases of fact. This calls for clear and sober analysis, so I think we should get Gary Mack's opinion on this.
of course... Fife-man...
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It is a truly fascinating and humble confession and for laypeople and un-fanatical followers of the JFK case (like me) it is very convincing.
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I look forward to your valued comments. Thanks
Kind regards – Steve
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in a few words, what is convincing?
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That is more or less what I meant. Why are they so silent, as of late, though? Surely, Mr. Simkin has not intimidated the likes of Craig Lamson?
all their eggs are in the 50th anniversary basket... there's nothing left to do but wait!
Of course a few nutters may be mowing grass in Dealey Plaza. No sense wasting ALL their talent...
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Is it just me, or does this forum seem to be rather "xxxxx free" lately?
you're kidding, right? They are still here and always will. Most are not posting.
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more worthless stuff from Myers....
Air Force One Radio Transmissions
in JFK Assassination Debate
Posted · Edited by David G. Healy
you know continuous wave was not unheard of in 1963, in fact most of our radio comm guys were quite proficient in c-w. Some folks touting high-speed morse code intercept MOS's even. It's not much of a stretch, for me at least, to believe AF1 had that capability, nor that every com guy on the plane was c-w qualified... Comm log's available anywhere?