Jim Hargrove

Will someone from the H&L hit squad kindly reply?

To be honest, Larry, no, not beyond the alleged attempts to kill Castro, but the evidence is overwhelming that the FBI destroyed all the real evidence! It is also PERFECTLY OBVIOUS that the immediate goal of President Kennedy's assassination was to provoke an invasion of Cuba! The evidence for that is absolutely EVERYWHERE for weeks before the assassination and immediately after. Do you disagree?

CLAIRE BOOTH LUCE AND AMERICAN-BORN LEE OSWALD In the early 1960s, soon after Fidel Castro's 1959 takeover of Cuba, Clare Boothe Luce (and her husband, Life Magazine magnate Henry Luce) began to sponsor anti-Castro groups. This support, according to Wikipedia, included funding exiles in commando speedboat raids against Cuba in the early 1960s. A number of reports seem to indicate that American-born Lee Oswald was involved in some of these activities, at the same time Russian-speaking Harvey Oswald was in Russia and then back home in New Orleans and Texas. Excerpts of several documents below are from the John Armstrong collection at Baylor University. The OCR scans of these somewhat grainy pages are a little rough, but interested readers can always look at reproductions of the actual docs by clicking on this link: http://digitalcollections.baylor.edu/cdm/compoundobject/collection/po-arm/id/4801/rec/1 From an FBI report dated 6/2/75 (Emphasis added by me): =================== QUOTE ON ================= On 5/16/75 at 6:30 pm Deputy Attorney General Tyler advised Inspector John B. Hotis and SA Paul V. Daly that he had received Information from Roderic Hills, Assistant Counsel to the President, that the Commission on CIA Activities was making an inquiry into a facet of the investigation of Lee Harvey Oswald, assassin of President Kennedy, and he requested that the FBI review its files to determine if any factual basis existed for these allegations. Mr. Tyler stated that one of these allegations recelved was that former Congresswoman Clare Boothe Luce had been financing a fishing boat to transport Cuban citizens from Cuba to Miami, Florida. This was in the period of 1960-61 and Mr. Tyler later stated the time frame was 1961 to 1962. The Captain of the ship allegedly advised Mrs. Luce that Lee Harvey Oswald and others were involved in the infiltration of a communist cell group in that area and had discussed assassination plans with no assassination target identified. Mrs. Luce instructed the Captain to notify the FBI and he later told her that he had done so and was leaving the country. =================== QUOTE OFF =============== Another report is labeled Notes from 1977 Inspector General's Report Taken by Betsy Palmer, 12/6/77 =================== QUOTE ON =============== 1. Memo for Director of Central Intelligence From: John H. Waller, Inspector General Subject: President Kennedy Assassination - Mrs. Luce story At behest of Director Colby, Mrs. Luce passed the story on to Senator Richard Schweiker. On 10 December 1975, staff member of Senate Select Committee inquired as to what the Agency thought of the story and was told it had nothing to add to the newspaper story of Betty Beale and suggested FBI would be the proper agency to contact. Mrs. Luce's actual transcript could be considered news- worthy and presented in a manner determental to CIA. FBI was sent transcript in January 1977. 2. Transcript of telephone conversation, October 25, 1975, Clare Booth Luce (CBL) call to William Colby (WC). CBL got involved during and after the Bay of Pigs with DRE. Up until the Cuban Missile Crisis when "Allen" called her and told the secret Act had gone into effect and that henceforth there would be no voluntary American efforts. "I knew a number of these leaders well; they were going in and out of Cuba, and I paid for one of the motor boats. Bill Pawley did too." ... "The night of the assassination, right after Oswald was caught, one of my boys telephoned me from New Orleans." — he was captian of "her" boat ... the Cubans were told to leave Miami. ..."he had opened a cell in New Orleans. He telephoned me to tell me that Oswald was ...a hired gun; Oswald had tried to penetrate their little cell; that they turned around and did a counter penetration 30b on Oswald; all of this was done several months before the assassination. He said, "we had tape recordings of what he was telling his groups." It was a counter penetration they went on. He said, "We have photographs of Oswald passing out handbills on the street, "Be Fair to Cuba." He said, "We are absolutely certain that Oswald was one of three assassination teams, that they were working out of Mexico City 9or funded in Mexico City) by Castro. "He said there were three assassinations teams." CBL told him to give the information to the FBI. After Garrison investigation came up, Luce began thinking about the incident again. She called Justin McCarthy to ge name of Cuban -- he was now in Miami. Got him on the phone and he told CBL that FBI took all tapes, photos and "told us to keep our mouths shut, and shortly after that they informed us that if any of us talked to the press dire things would happen." Said one of the fellows on boat was deported to Guatemala or Chile, and one was murdered. Said he was now a lawyer, had two children, making way in Miami and never wants to hear a damn word about the assassination of Kennedy because you Americans really do not want to know the truth." ============== QUOTE OFF ================ Again, scans of these documents can be downloaded from the John Armstrong Collection at Baylor University at this url: http://digitalcollections.baylor.edu/cdm/compoundobject/collection/po-arm/id/4801/rec/1

From the 12/5/63 Village Voice: Villagers Report Oswald Was Here The Voice has learned that a number of proprietors of Greenwich Village establishments have been given photographs by the FBI of a youthful right-winger who has spent considerable time in the Village. The subject of the photographs has been identified as Stephen L'eandes, a native of Wiggins, Mississippi. The FBI is checking out information that Lee Harvey Oswald, alleged assassin of President Kennedy, had spent time in Greenwich Village reputedly in the company of L' eandes. L' eandes has not yet been located. The FBI is apparently eager to fill out the details of Oswald's life. Meanwhile, reports have been snowballing that Oswald actually lived in the Village for a time since his return from Russia. A number of people insist they knew Oswald, but informants present their story via the telephone and have generally avoided direct contact with the FBI and the newspapers. One rumor links Oswald with a Village psychotherapist whose card Oswald was allegedly carrying at the time he was picked up by the Dallas police. Village Voice reporters may not have known that Russian-speaking Harvey Oswald and his new family arrived in NYC aboard the Maasdam on June 13, 1962 and were already at Love Field in Dallas the very next day. Funny how those "snowballing" reports all disappeared.

not sure how the word I posted "xxxx" became xxxx Ok will try this again will change the word to "untruthful" Pretty much as predicted, Dawn. This machine censoring is pretty strange!

Jim, Why didn't you post the whole book? LOL Kittrell was a bit of a nut case, described as a "frustrated old maid" and somewhat "squirrelly" by her boss. https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=60400&search=kittrell#relPageId=196&tab=page She thought some voting machines in Dallas had been purposefully broken and persistently insisted that the FBI correct the problem. One-and-one-half years after the assassination, she sent a rambling, handwritten (and literally slanted) fourteen-page letter to Attorney General Robert Kennedy about her experiences regarding "The Two Oswalds" at the Fort Worth TEC. https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=60400&search=kittrell#relPageId=203&tab=page She doesn't come across as a credible witness to me. BTW, The guy in the black motorcycle jacket does sound like Larry Crafard, although Kittrell doesn't say anything about his missing front teeth. Maybe she found that so gosh darn unpleasant to look at that she blotted it out from her old maid memory. Or maybe Crafard didn't smile much or open his mouth very much when he spoke. The long-sleeved motorcycle jacket would have covered his tattoos, wouldn't it. You quoted Armstrong: "In early October (probably October 8th) Laura was interviewing a colored woman who wanted to quit domestic employment and find work as a trainee in an electronics factory. During the interview the woman told Laura that she used to work as a maid for [...] Murray Chotiner in California." Why would the black lady "drop" Chotiner's name unless Chotiner was well known outside of California, too, and the lady thought the fact she had worked for him would impress Kittrell? Chotiner was already well known when he was Nixon's vice presidential campaign manager during the 1952 elections, and would have received national "press" in that regard. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murray_Chotiner Also, an infamous double murder occurred in attorney / former Nixon campaign manager Chotiner's office in July of 1957, and it received a lot of publicity immediately afterwards and during the trial, at which Chotiner was a major witness. Chotinier was even considered a suspect for a while. http://law.justia.com/cases/california/court-of-appeal/2d/174/281.html Lastly, why did Kitterell express in her June, 1965, letter to RFK that she had been very reluctant to mention the Fort Worth TEC "Chotiner incident" in it if not for the fact that Kitterell was already aware of Chotinier's notoriety and knew that many other people were aware of it, too? Therefore, it's not surprising that the guy in the black motorcycle jacket had heard of Chotiner, especially if that guy was Larry Crafard, employee of Jack Ruby, whom some say was introduced to Nixon by Chotinier in 1947. http://jfkfacts.org/assassination/fact-check/fact-check-did-richard-nixon-know-jack-ruby/ You know, Jim, I'm starting to think that Larry Crafard and The Two Oswalds were chosen many, many years earlier to participate in the Harvey and Lee and Larry tripleganger project because they all looked so much alike. LOL --Tommy edited and bumped You say Ms. Kittrell "was a bit of a nut case," but that is your description, not that of her boss. Being a "frustrated old maid" and "squirrelly" is hardly a description of a "nut case." I'm shocked, SHOCKED that anyone would think voting machines in Big City elections could POSSIBLY be rigged! She did indeed send a fourteen page later to Robert Kennedy about her interview of the two men claiming to be Lee Harvey Oswald. You offer this information in an attempt to impeach her? You say "maybe Crafard didn't smile much or open his mouth," but Kittrell said the second Oswald laughed so loudly everyone in her office could hear him. You ask, "Why would the black lady 'drop' Chotiner's name unless Chotiner was well known outside of California?" BECAUSE HE WAS HER EMPLOYER! It was a job reference! Can you name the campaign manager of any vice presedential candidate ever, other than Chotiner? Doesn't sound very famous to me. Chotiner also worked for a California Republican Senator named Knowland and was an ALTERNATE delegate to the Republican National Convention in Chicago. Wow! There's national fame! Kittrell probably referred to the "Chotiner incident" because the mention of that name by the black woman is what started the incident with the first Oswald (Harvey).

From Harvey and Lee, selected pages from 707-738: The Texas Employment Commission In 1963 the Texas Employment Commission (TEC) was divided into districts according to population density. The Dallas district encompassed Dallas County, the Fort Worth district encompassed Tarrant County, and in the thinly populated areas of West Texas TEC districts encompassed several counties. In Dallas the industrial office of the TEC was located at 1206 Ross Avenue where employees Donald Brooks, Laura Kittrell, and Mrs. Harlan Brown helped applicants find factory-type jobs. The clerical. sales. and professional office of the TEC was located at 1025 Elm Street where Helen Cunningham, Robert L. Adams, A.K. Sayre, and Louise Latham helped people find clerical and office jobs. The TEC claims office was located at 2210 Main Street where Harry Sanderson and Pauline Elrod helped people file in-state unemployment claims while Henry McCluskey helped people file out-of-state claims. NOTE: Mrs. Harlan Brown was the wife of Dallas FBI Agent Harlan Brown and also worked for the TEC, but was never interviewed by the FBI or Warren Commission. When an applicant registered with the TEC a Linedex card was completed which listed the applicant's name, address, phone number, social security number, oc- cupation codes, report date, office number, and the date and time of their scheduled visits. Cards containing the names of all applicants currently registered with a particu- lar office were kept by the receptionist. But Linedex cards created for Lee Harvey Oswald were not published in the Warren Volumes from either the Fort Worth or Dallas office. After registering job applicants were first given a series of tests to determine their interests and aptitude and then interviewed by a counselor. Individual applications (form E-13) were filled out for each type of job the individual was seeking, such as in- dustrial, clerical, warehouse, photographic, etc., and each job was identified by a unique code. Fort Worth counselor Annie Laurie Smith interviewed (Harvey) Oswald on two occasions in 1962, but was never questioned by the Warren Commission. Counselors Donald Brooks, Laura Kittrell, and other counselors in Dallas interviewed Oswald and created numerous job application forms, but were never interviewed by the Commission. Following the assassination all of these forms were turned over to the FBI but only one, an appli- cation for a clerical position, was published in the Warren Volumes (Cunningham Ex. No. 1 & 1-A). The remainder of the TEC forms disappeared while in FBI custody. NOTE: Numerous TEC application forms were filled out for Oswald and a few were listed on Cunningham Ex. No. 4 and identified with codes "O-X3, O.X6, O-X7.1, 1-X1.1, l-X2, 1-X4, but disappeared." After interviewing job applicants, counselors recorded notes of their interviews on counseling cards, which were turned over to the FBI after the assassination. Helen Cunningham was interviewed by the Warren Commission and said that all of her coun- seling records were missing from Oswald's file (a card from 1962), except one. 2 Irving Statman, the assistant district director of the TEC office in Dallas, was also interviewed by the Commission and said that all of Oswald's counseling records were missing from the Dallas office. 3 The counseling cards disappeared after being turned over to the FBI, and there is no indication the Warren Commission made any attempt to locate them. After counseling an applicant was interviewed by a job placement interviewer who recorded notes of the each interview on application forms E-13. Robert L. Adams, Louise Latham, and others interviewed Oswald, but never testified before the Warren Com- mission. When a worker lost his or her job they visited the TEC claims office and filled out an application for unemployment benefits. While unemployed they were required to fill out a form each week which listed the locations where they had applied for work, and then meet with a claims counselor. Oswald met with claims counselors Harry Sanderson, Henry McCluskey, and others who were never interviewed by the Commission. Oswald's weekly visits to the claims office and the dates of his unemployment claims were recorded on TEC claim form B-3A. This in-state form was published in the Warren Volumes as Cunningham Ex. No. 3, but the out-of-state unemployment claims forms were not published. A small portion of one of Oswald's out of state claims forms was cut from the original and published at the bottom of page 403 in Vol 19 (shown be- low Cunningham Ex. No 3 ). After the assassination most of the TEC's records for Oswald, including Linedex cards, GATB tests (General Aptitude Test Batteries), several counseling cards, numerous application cards, and interstate claims cards, were turned over to the FBI. Dozens of documents disappeared and only 4 were published in the Warren Volumes. The War- ren Commission did not interview a single TEC employee who had both interviewed and remembered Lee Harvey Oswald in 1963. [….] Laura Kittrell's first meeting with Harvey Oswald Laura Kittrell was the daughter of Bill Kittrell, a prominent local politician and former secretary of the Texas Democratic Party, who was personally acquainted with Franklin Roosevelt, Harry Truman, Sam Rayburn, Lyndon Johnson, John F. Kennedy, and numerous other national political figures. Laura had worked at the Texas Employ- ment Commission (TEC) since 1950 and, by October 1963, was a counselor in the in- dustrial office at 1206 Ross Avenue. In early October (probably October 8th) Laura was interviewing a colored woman who wanted to quit domestic employment and find work as a trainee in an elec- tronics factory. During the interview the woman told Laura that she used to work as a maid for a man named Murray Chotiner in California. [OCT, 63-04] The two women's conversation was overheard by a young man sitting at the desk of counselor Donald Brooks, who's desk was in front of Laura's. After completing the interview with Mr. Brooks the young man, wearing a black leather jacket, stood with three other people against a wall in the waiting area and watched as Laura continued to interview the woman. Laura recalled that one of the people was a short woman who was very pregnant, had blond hair, and wore no makeup. The second person was a man similar in appearance to the young man who spoke with Mr. Brooks. Laura was unaable to remember a description of the third person. NOTE: Brooks told the Warren Commission that Oswald was reluctant to accept em- ployment in the industrial field which consisted primarily of factory jobs. 41 After Laura completed her interview the young man walked over to her desk and said, "Excuse me, I don't mean to be butting in, or anything like that, but didn't I hear that colored woman tell you that she had worked in California for Murray Chotiner?" Laura said, "Look, I know this is going to sound pretty silly to you, since you have been listening, and no doubt have heard practically everything said, but this is a government office, and there is a rule here that anything a person says at an interview is supposed to be confidential. So I can't answer your question." The young man said, "Well, I'll be damned," and pounded his hand on Laura's desk with such force that her flower vase tipped over spilling water down the side of her desk. The young man then left without saying a word and joined his friends near the elevator.[OCT, 63-05] NOTE: Attorney Murray Chotiner was virtually unknown outside of California in 1963. On October 7, 1955 Lee Harvey Oswald delivered a note to Warren Easton High School that was found in Oswald's school file after the assassination. The note read, "Becaus (sic) we are moving to San Diego in the middle of this month Lee must quit school now. Also, please send by him any papers such as his birth certificate that you may have. Thank you. Sincirely (sic) ..... Mrs. M. Oswald. "42 If Harvey Oswald moved to Califor- nia in 1955, it could explain how he knew about Chotiner. Harvey Oswald returned to Mary Bledsoe's home around 2:30pm and remained in her home for the rest of the afternoon and evening. 43 [ …. ] Laura's first interview with Harvey Oswald A few days after Laura Kittrell spoke with Harvey Oswald about "Murray Chotiner," she received a call from Mrs. Pauline Elrod at the unemployment compen- sation office. Mrs. Elrod said, "I am sending you a Mr. Oswald, 0-s-w-a-l-d, to be reinterviewed." Mrs. Elrod told Laura that Oswald had made a mistake on his claim form and as a result his unemployment check was being held up. She said that he re- cently lived in New Orleans and worked in a warehouse loading merchandise with a forklift. Mrs. Elrod was concerned about Oswald because his wife was about to have a baby (Marina delivered Rachel on October 20, 1963) and he was broke. Mrs. Elrod asked Laura to talk with Oswald and see if she could "put him down for some other kinds of work" and possibly send him for an interview in the afternoon.49 [OCT,63-06] Laura recalled that she interviewed Oswald during the time the Texas State Fair was running. NOTE: The 1963 Texas State Fair ran from October 5 to 20th. 50 A short while later a young man wearing a black motorcycle jacket appeared and took a seat in the waiting area. Laura recognized the young man as the person who had previously asked her about Murray Chotiner, and remembered that he was clean- shaven, his hair was neatly cut, and his fingernails were clean. After introducing herself Laura asked the young man how he knew the name "Murray Chotiner." When Oswald failed to respond she asked, "Did you work for Murray Chotiner in California?" Once again Oswald failed to answer but remarked, "He's a crook." Laura wondered how Oswald could have known the name of a little-known political figure in another state unless he, like the colored woman, worked for Chotiner in California. NOTE: In the 1940's Chotiner defended Meyer Lansky, Bugsy Siegel and other mob- connected people. In 1946 Chotiner became a consultant on Richard Nixon's campaign staff and in 1950 arranged a fund raising dinner for Nixon's Senatorial Campaign from members of Lansky's syndicate. 51 From 1949-1952 Chotiner defended clients in 221 organized crime cases, and, by 1963, had become a highly successful Beverly Hills attor- ney. When Laura Kittrell interviewed Lee Harvey Oswald in October 1963, it was many years before Murray Chotiner came to national attention when Richard Nixon was in the White House. In the 1970's Chotiner was named as special counsel for the Committee to Re-Elect the President (CREEP) and also worked in the "dirty tricks" department with Marvin Liebman and William R Buckley. When George McGovern and Nixon were running/or President in 1972, Chotiner was the man who hired Lucianne Goldberg as a ''journal- ist" to travel with McGovern s campaign. Goldberg said, "They were looking for really dirty stuff-who was sleeping with whom, what the Secret Service men were doing with the stewardess, who was smoking pot on the plane, that sort of thing."52 It was Goldberg who learned that McGovern's running mate, Senator Thomas Eagleton, had received elec- troshock treatments 20 years earlier. This revelation was used as a campaign issue to show that McGovern had poor judgment in choosing a vice-president and was indecisive. At the height of the Watergate scandal Chotiner was killed in a hit-and-run automobile ac- cident, and no one was brought to justice. Laura's first impression of Oswald caused her to write a notation on his appli- cation that he used to work for Chotiner in California. After Laura turned in his appli- cation she realized that she had made a mistake but was unable to find the application to make the necessary correction. While interviewing Oswald a Cuban man, who spoke no English, handed Laura a card with directions to a job interview. Laura tried to help the man and spoke with him in her "Tex-Mex" brand of Spanish. After the man left she had a brief discussion with Oswald about the Cuban situation and soon realized that he knew a lot about the Cu- ban situation. Oswald told Laura, "You know, your Spanish isn't half bad." Laura replied, "Oh, you speak Spanish?" Oswald replied, "Oh, I speak three languages ..... Russian .... .I've been to Russia. Matter of fact, married a Russian girl." When Laura said, "Tell me, what did you like best about Russia?" Oswald replied, "The opera!" Oswald's answer convinced Laura that he had been to Russia. She said, "I have read about this art museum in Leningrad where they have the great French Impression- ists stacked in the basement." Oswald replied, "I've never been to Leningrad .... .I was in Moscow for sometime and to ..... (Oswald named a town which Laura could not re- member). You see, I had this job in a factory there .... .I worked for months in this elec- tronics factory in ..... (name not remembered by Laura). I was taking these little bitty metal parts and doing something with them." Laura suggested to Oswald that he accept any type of job because he had been unemployed for months. When Oswald expressed his desire to find a white-collar job in downtown Dallas, Laura said that he would be wasting his time. Oswald replied, "I used to sell shoes (Dolly Shoe in New Orleans?) and that is white-collar experience, isn't it?" He then told Laura about working in an office in California when he was 16 years old. NOTE: Once again the note of October 7, 1955 found in Oswald's file at Warren Easton comes to mind: "Becaus (sic) we are moving to San Diego in the middle of this month .... . " 53 A few days after this note was written Harvey Oswald dropped out of Warren Easton and probably moved to California. Oswald explained, "It was before I went into the Marines, even. It was when I was just sixteen. I had this messenger-boy job in California. It was a motor-scooter messenger-boy job, but I worked in the office too, filing and taking care of mail. It was for an investment company and I worked there six months. The name of it was the 'ETI Realty Company' and it was in . . ... (Oswald told her the name of the town in California, which she thought was 'ETI Realty')." [OCT, 63-07] Laura thought it was the same town the colored maid had mentioned as the place where she had worked for Murray Chotiner (Beverly Hills). She said to Oswald, "The ETI Realty Company . . .. .I thought you said it was an investment company." He replied, "It was, but it was also an investment company." As Oswald sat quietly at her desk Laura completed an application for office work and included the full name and address of the company that she remembered as "ETI Realty." She then forwarded the application to the TEC clerical office a t 1025 Elm Street, but the application disappeared. Laura then filled out another application for Oswald, for temporary warehouse work, and mistakenly wrote on the bottom of the application, "Worked 6 months for the Murray Chotiner Investment Company .... .in 1956 (Laura forgot that Oswald told her that he had not worked for Chotiner)." She coded the application " 9-88.40" (order-filler/ warehouseman) and forwarded it to the West Dallas Labor Office, but this application also disappeared. NOTE: Following the assassination the TEC provided the FBI with their entire file on Lee Harvey Oswald, but the Warren Commission received only a few documents which they published in the 26 Volumes (including Cunningham Exhibits 1, 1-A, 2, 2 -A, 3, 3- A, 4,). The applications filled out by Laura Kittrell (temporary warehouse work-code 9-88.40), are some of the numerous TEC documents that disappeared while in FBI cus- tody. Laura also recalled that Oswald had a "sketchy background in offset printing" (Jaggars-Chiles-Stovall) and suggested that he pursue that line of work. After filling out an application for print-shop work and scheduling General Aptitude Test Batteries (GATB), Laura took him to TEC placement counselor Mrs. Saenz. After speaking with Mrs. Saenz, Oswald returned to see Laura and told her he had been given a job refer- ral for the following morning (October 11?). NOTE: The Warren Commission never questioned Mrs. Saenz. After concluding one of the longest interviews she ever had, which lasted one hour and forty-two minutes, Laura telephoned Mrs. Elrod and told her about Oswald's job referral the following morning and gave her the code revisions. NOTE: Laura Kittrell knew how much time she spent interviewing Oswald because her boss kept track of the time. The Warren Commission never questioned Laura Kittrell, her boss, or Pauline Elrod. A few days later Helen Cunningham, who had been one of Oswald's counselors in October 1962, informed Laura that Oswald's application for office work was already on file and that he had previously taken the GATB tests in Fort Worth. On October 10 the JOBCO Employment Agency set up an interview for Oswald with the DeVilbiss Company on Irving Blvd. Oswald was supposed to have been inter- viewed by DeVilbiss employee Jim Friel at 1:30pm, but there was no indication that he kept the appointment.54 He may have missed the 1:30pm appointment because of his lengthy interview with Laura Kittrell. Oswald returned to Mary Bledsoe's around 2 :00pm, and once again interrupted her afternoon nap. W hen Mary explained to Oswald that he was disturbing her privacy, he promised not to disturb her again. Mary remembered that after Oswald returned to her home he "fussed with somebody on the phone, I don't know whether it was his wife or who it was." According to Mary, Oswald remained in her home the rest of the day and evening. [ ….] Laura Kittrell's second interview with Harvey Oswald A few days after Laura's first interview with Harvey Oswald he showed up at her office a little after 1:00pm. (Laura thought a Friday and a week-end intervened between the two interviews). NOTE: Oswald moved into his new address at 1026 N. Beckley at 4:00pm on Octo- ber 14 and began work at the Book Depository at 8:00am on October 16. The only day that Oswald could have arrived at Miss Kittrell's office looking for work and given her his new address and phone number in Oak Cliff was on October 15. On October 16, Oswald was working at the TSBD. Laura recalled that Lee Harvey Oswald was wearing a starched, cotton sport shirt and apologized for being a few minutes late for the GATB tests. Laura escorted him to the test room and then returned to her desk. Two and a half hours later (approxi- mately 3:30 pm) Oswald met with Laura to discuss the test results. Laura recalled that he made a "126" on the verbal part of his test, a "116" on the IQ score, and a score that was "below the middle" on the physical quality score (eye-hand coordination). Noting that Oswald recorded a high score on the verbal portion of the test Laura said, "You must read a lot," to which Oswald replied, "Oh, yeah, I read." When she asked him the name of the last book he had read Oswald replied, "Oh, a James Bond book, I guess." NOTE: A year after the assassination Laura looked through the 26 Volumes and found Oswald's test scores from the TEC office in Fort Worth in 1962. But the results from his 2 and 1/2 hours of testing in October 1963, which Laura remembered and interpreted, were not published in the Volumes and disappeared from the TEC offices. Following the GATB tests Laura and Oswald had a long discussion about the type of work he wanted. Laura agreed to help him find a "white-collar" job and then called the Clerical Office and advised that he had completed the aptitude tests. Before Oswald left he gave Laura a new telephone number and a new address in Oak Cliff. T he telephone number was WH 3-8993 and the address was 1026 N. Beckley. A few days later Laura tried to contact Oswald (Oct 17 or 18 ?) and recalled that a woman with a gruff voice answered the phone and identified herself as the house- keeper (Earlene Roberts). When Laura asked for Mr. Oswald the woman said, "Who? Who? ..... Oh, You mean Mr. Lee? (Oswald registered as "O.H. Lee")? The woman told Laura that "Mr. Lee" was not in and said that his wife lived at another location. [ …. ] October 17 (Thursday)- the Teamster On or about October 17, while Harvey was working at the TSBD, a man closely resembling Oswald showed up at Laura Kittrell's office. Laura said, "I just looked up from my desk and there he was, standing beside it, and grinning." She recalled the man was wearing a red and white checkered sport shirt, which reminded her of a tablecloth, and he appeared to be a "shaggy" type of person. [OCT, 63-09] The man told Laura, "The (Unemployment) Claims Office sent me back to you. You got to change my Primary Code. You got to change it back to what was in the beginning. I have just joined the Teamsters' Union. Joined last night (or possibly the night before last). You don't have to have a driver's license to operate a loading vehicle within a plant. I was eligible for membership in the Teamster's Union when I left New Orleans. I decided to go ahead and join them here. I was still eligible ..... They don't have a job for me right now. T hat's why I' m back filing my claim again ..... A union member doesn't have to take anything but a Union job, and be signed up for that. And I can go on filing my claim now." [OCT, 63-10/11] Laura could not understand why this man was allowed to join the Teamster's Union when he could not drive. When she asked him for his Teamster's card he replied, "They haven't got it to me yet." Having interviewed dozens of people each day, Laura did not immediately remember the man's name, but recognized him as Lee Harvey Oswald. Laura retrieved Oswald's application and remembered that she wrote, "Gaso- line-truck operator, belonging to the 6-88 category of occupational codes." She told Oswald that she was going to note that his wife was going to have a baby (October 20) and he said, "No, I said we have a baby, and are going to have another." Somewhat confused, Laura later recalled the conversation with Oswald and thought, "What kind of a fellow is it that can't remember that his wife has just had a baby?" She concluded this individual was, "A fellow who was pretending to be the man whose wife has just had a baby, and who had been coached upon how to answer certain questions which might arise. and who forgets, a little later, how he has answered them, or if he has." As the conversation continued Laura began to notice differences between this man, who she called the "Teamster," and Lee Harvey Oswald, whom she had previously interviewed. She recalled, "T he laughter which rocked the Teamster would be difficult for me to imagine as belonging to (Harvey) Oswald." She knew the man sitting in front of her was filing for unemploy ment compensation, but also knew that it was not unheard of to send someone in their place to sign for a claims check and to make it appear as though they were job-hunting. During the course of the interview Laura concluded the man was not the Same person she previously interviewed. [OCT, 6 -12] Laura said, "Although the man I remember as (Harvey) Oswald and the man I remember as the Teamster (Lee Oswald) were much alike in size, shape, and outline, generally, there was a marked difference between them in bearing and manner. The man I remember as (Harvey) Oswald was a trim, energetic, compact, well-knit person who sat on the edge of a chair, but the man I remember as the teamster was a trifling, shiftless, good-for-nothing lout who sprawled oafishly over his chair and whose move- ments seemed curiously uncoordinated, like those of a person who had been drinking, and yet I don't think he had been drinking."81 [OCT,63-13] Laura also recalled, "He (the "Teamster") was slouchy and he was kind of un- kempt, not dirty, but messy and very unmilitary looking. That was one thing about Mr. (Harvey) Oswald, he always looked very military, neat as a pin, and this fellow wasn't. And he had this peculiar way of laughing and talking so that people all over the room could hear him, and Mr. (Harvey) Oswald wasn't like that at all." Kittrell said that al- though she suspected the fellow (the "Teamster") might not have been (Harvey) Oswald at the time, she wasn't sure and she didn't want to call him a xxxx and create a scene without being sure.82 Laura said, "I simply did not see how the Teamster-fellow could have been neither (Harvey) Oswald nor someone pretending to be (Harvey) Oswald." She consid- ered the possibility that (Harvey) Oswald may have sent someone in his place to sign for a claim check, but was not sure. NOTE: After the assassination Laura learned that (Harvey) Oswald began work at the TSBD on October 16. She could not understand how (Harvey) Oswald, while working at the Book Depository, had time to visit the TEC Claims office at 2210 Main Street ( 1 mile from the TSBD) and her office at 1206 Ross Avenue ( 6 blocks from the TSBD ). She also wondered why (Harvey) Oswald would continue to file unemployment claims if he was working. After the Warren Commission issued its final Report, Laura studied the 26 vol- umes of testimony and evidence. She located two photographs in the Volumes that reminded her of the "Teamster" and took the time to look up the man's name. She learned the man in the photographs was Larry Crafard, a former employ ee of Jack Ruby, and wondered if he was the "Teamster." After seeing Crafard's photograph, she searched the TEC records for his name. She wrote, "I found it (Crafard's application with the TEC) in the inactive file after my return to work that day." In her 90-page manuscript, in which she memorialized her interviews with two Oswald's, Laura wrote, "I wish I could settle this question in my mind (if Crafard was the Teamster), but I can't." But why would Larry Crafard identify himself as Oswald? For what purpose? A review of Warren Commission records appears to settle the question of whether Crafard could have been the "Teamster" who visited the TEC offices pretend- ing to be Oswald. * Jack Ruby met Larry Crafard when he (Crafard) was working at the Texas State Fair (October 5-20). Crafard did not begin working for Ruby and living at the Carousel club until November 1, two weeks after Laura Kittrell interviewed the "Teamster. " * Photographs of Crafard published in the 26 Volumes are very misleading as they show him with a closed mouth and wearing a long sleeved jacket. W hen these photographs were taken Larry Crafard's front teeth were missing en- tirely and he had tattoos on both arms. If Laura Kittrell had known that Crafard was missing his front teeth she would have realized that the "Teamster," who laughed loud enough to be heard throughout the room, was not Crafard. NOTE: Laura Kittrell never realized she was one of the few people who met both Harvey and Lee Oswald face to face. She was also the only witness who recognized the subtle dif- ferences between these two young intelligence operatives. Had Laura been given the op- portunity to interview two of Cuba s top intelligence agents, identical twin brothers An- tonio and Patricio DeLaGuardia, it is doubtful that she would have recognized any dif- ference. [OCT, 63-14] - - - - - - - - - - - 1 WC testimony of James Hosty, 4 H 446. 2 WC testimony of Helen Cunningham, 10 H 119. 3 WC testimony of Irving Statman, 10 H 156. 4 Memo from Winston Scott to Legal Attache Clark D. Anderson,l1/27/63; Document #104-10015-10428. 5 Record number l 04-100 15-l 048, 11/27/63. 6 FBI Airte1 from SAC, Dallas to FBI Director, 12/3/63. 7 WC Hulen Exhibit 7. 8 AP, 11/28/63; New York Times, 11/30/63. 9 National Archives FBI 124-10229-10425, HO 62-2115-170. 10 National Archives, FBI 124-10241-10364, HO 62-2115-248. 11 Alice Echo News, 11/27/63; Corpus Christi Caller-Times, 11/28/63; FBI report, 11/25/63-#105-82555-165; AP, 11/28/63;HSCA #180-10031-10278; FBI report, 11/26/63-124-10178-10419, AF #89-67-131; FBI report, 11/27/63-#124-10018-10241, AF#62-1 09060-1543. 12 FBI interview of Dr. Ben Parker by SA John Russell Graham, 11/26/63; FBI report #124-10019-10236, AF #62-109060-800; WC Document 7, p. 137. 13 WC Exhibit 2821. 14 Ft. Worth Star Telegram, 7/18/76, p. 6b. 15 Ibid. 16 Letter from H.M. Hart, Detective, Criminal Intelligence Section, to Captain W.P. Gannaway, Special Service Bureau, Dallas Police Department. 17 WC testimony of Leonard Hutchison, 10 H 328-329. 18 WC testimony of Leonard Hutchison, 10 H 332, 338. 19 National Archives, HSCA 180-10120-10043, Numbered Files 003984; HSCA interview of Leonard Hutchison by Jack Moriarty, 10/13/77. 20 WC Document 205, p. 497; FBI interview of Ray Randuk by SA Bardwell Odum, 12/12/63. 21 WC Gangl Exhibit 1; Affidavit of Theodore Frank Gangl, 6/16/64. 22 WC Exhibit 1782. 23 WC Exhibit 2124. 24 WC Report, p. 737; WC Exhibit 2124. 25 CIA cable from R.L. Easby to Director John McCone, 11/23/63; Doc # 104-10015-10289. 26 WC Document 5, p. 197; FBI interview of Ruth Paine by SA Joe Abernathy, 11/23/63. 27 Report of Postal Inspectors Niewoehner and McCoy, 12/4/63. 28 WC Report, p. 737; WC Exhibit 2124. 29 WC Exhibit 2944. 30 WC Exhibit 2448. 31 WC Exhibit 2214. 32 WC testimony of Mary Bledsoe, 6 H 426. 33 WC Exhibit 1782; we Exhibit 2124. 34 FBI memo by SA Robert Gemberling, 12/23/63; 105-2909-429. 35 FBI Exhibit D-88; WC Cunningham Exhibit 1-A. 36 Copied from original letter by J. Gary Shaw, Cleburne, TX. 37 WC testimony of Mary Bledsoe, 6 H 403-404. 38 Ibid. at 404. 39 FBI interview of Mary Bledsoe by SA James S. Weir, 11/23/63. 40 FBI Exhibit D-88; Cunningham Ex. No. 1-A. 41 WC testimony of Donald E. Brooks, 10 H 144. 42 WC Exhibit 1413, Volume 22, p. 814. 43 WC testimony of Mary Bledsoe, 6 H 403-404. 44 FBI Exhibit D-88; Cunningham Ex. No. 1-A. 45 WC testimony of Mary Bledsoe, 6 H 404. 46 WC Document 183, p. 43, Interview of Jerome Cushman by SA John B. Lee, 12112/63. 47 WC testimony of Mary Bledsoe, 6 H 404. 48 Cunningham Ex. No 3, line 14. 49 Kitrell p. 14. 50 Conversation with Candace W heat, State Fair of Texas, 1/2001. 51 Mickey Cohen, "In My Own Words," (New York) 1975. 52 Anthony Lucas, "Nighthouse: the Underside of the Nixon Year. " 53 WC Exhibit 1413, Volume 22, p. 814. 54 WC CD 7, p. 496; FBI interview of Robert Hayes by SA Bardwell Odum, 12/12/63. 55 Wanted Notice Card, Jacket No. 327 925 D. 56 Affidavit of James D. Crowley, 11 H 482. 57 WC testimony of Mary Bledsoe, 6 H 405. 58 Task Force Report, CIA, 1977, p. 10. 59 Report of the Inspector General p. 87-88. 60 Foreign Relations of the United States, 1961-63, U.S. State Department, Volume IV: Vietnam August-December, 1963. 61 Arthur Schlesinger, "A Thousand Days," p. 339. 62 WC testimony of Clifton Shasteen, 10 H 314-315. 63 Ibid. at 31 7. 64.Ibid. at 316. 65. WC testimony of Mary Bledsoe, 6 H 427. 66. Ibid. at 405-406. 67. WC testimony of Ruth Paine, 3 H 32. 68. WC Exhibit 1809. 69. WC testimony of Mary Bledsoe, 6 H 406-407. 70. FBI Exhibit D-89. 71.WC testimony of Ruth Paine, 3 H 34. 72. WC testimony of Wesley Frazier, 2 H 212. 73. WC testimony of Linnie Mae Randle, 2H 246-247. 74. WC testimony of Earlene Roberts, 6 H 436-437 75. WC Exhibit 1167, Volume 22, p. 248. 76. FBI memo by SA Robert Gemberling, 12/23/63, 105-2909-429. 77. National Archives, SSCIA 157-10008-10055, Memo. WC Memo from Coleman-Slawson to Jenner-Liebeler, 3/12/64. 78. WC testimony of Roy Truly, 3 H 214. 79. DOC #104-10015-10107, 104-10015-10289 80. WC testimony of Roy Truly, 3 H 213-218 81. Kittrell Manuscript, pp. 80, 81. 82. National Archives, HSCA 180-10075-10162, Numbered Files 010133; Memo from Gaeton Fonzi to Blakey, 7/18/78, p. 9.

While everyone else is arguing, Please visit Greg Parker's FRANKENSTEIN OSWALD home page right here: http://harveyandlee.net/Marines/Defection_Photo_Evolution.html AND kindly take a look at the BRAND NEW TWO STEVE LANDESBERGS page here http://harveyandlee.net/Landesberg/Landesbergs.html We're still awaiting W. Tracy's Two Landesbergs rebuttal page. We're hearing great things from W. Tracy about it! Sorry to see that W. Tracy's Landesberg page is currently down! Good luck W. Tracy!!!

Believe whatever you want! The Thought Police, whatever else we've been through, still are not in charge. I think the evidence shows that "Lee Harvey Oswald" worked for U.S. Intelligence.... .... and that there were at least two guys sharing the same name and job description. EVERYONE, including you, is free to disagree. I don't care! But the HIT SQUADS clearly at work here on EF against Harvey & Lee remind me that John A. seems, quite obviously, to be on to something dangerous!

BORIS AND NATASHA HUNT MOOSE AND SQUIRREL NOTE: In a 1997 interview Robert Webster told JFK researcher and author Dick Russell that he met Marina Prusakova in Moscow in the summer of 1959 and spoke with her in English. Webster said that Marina spoke English well, but with a heavy accent. A year after Webster was sent to Leningrad by the Soviet Government, 400 miles from Moscow, he met Marina again shortly after he applied for an exit visa so that he could return to the US. [interview of Robert Webster by Dick Russell at Cape Cod, MA. 1997] Marina's friend in Dallas, Katya Ford, said that when she asked Marina why Oswald went to Russia, Marina told her that he worked for the Rand Corporation and helped set up the American exhibit at the World Trade Exposition in Moscow.[WC Document 5, p. 259; FBI interview of Katherine Ford by SA James P. Hosty, 11/24/63] Marina had momentarily confused Harvey Oswald with Robert Webster, the 1st US "defector," whom she met in Moscow (1959) and again in Leningrad (1960). It is not a coincidence that both Webster and Oswald "defected" a few months apart in 1959, both tried to "defect" on a Saturday, both possessed "sensitive" information of possible value to the Russians, both were befriended by Marina Prusakova, and both returned to the United States in the Spring of 1962. These US "defectors," acting in perfect harmony, were both working for the CIA. --From Harvey and Lee, p. 799

Following is posted here, with permission of the writer, from a post made by Albert Doyle on a different forum: ===================== QUOTE ON =========================== Armstrong is a very good researcher despite what some trolls allege. This is from the post-assassination period where intel was now in its killing witnesses phase. So this shows the intel depth of the actor Landesberg because he is now very likely attempting to frame Fowler or even kill him. So you can pretty much plumb the depth of SR Landesberg and therefore interpolate his relationship to Oswald from this. If SR Landesberg is doing dirty post assassination ops like this he's deep-in and operational. He exists at the level of Armstrong's theory. The student SH Landesberg knew too much too soon and had information he couldn't have had unless he was associated with the spook work he exposed. Doubters would have to explain how exactly a crazy student would know all this business otherwise? (The trolls will say "It isn't up to me to prove anything") SH Landesberg had no reason to know all this 8 hours after the assassination. The only way he could have known is if somebody told him or he experienced it himself. It is silly to deny this because the combination of SH Landesberg knowing this stuff only 8 hours after the assassination, plus SR Landesberg admitting it was a mistake to ever get involved with Oswald, and the fact the admission that Perry was from El Paso, Texas came from an FBI interview with SH Landesberg, all creates an inescapable evidentiary conclusion. An undeniable convergence of evidence. Deniers are playing games because obviously Marine records will show SH Landesberg, SR Landesberg, Oswald, and Perry all in the Marines together. SH Landesberg had Florida hotel information only a person who knew SR Landesberg could have known. And there's only one Perry from El Paso who was stationed at Barstow who would match with all this, so the wishy-washy evasions being used to get around this defy the obvious. There's only one Earl Eugene Perry who could have been in the Marines in 1956 and ended up at the Barstow supply station in 1963. Also, it would appear the Village Voice reporters had much more knowledge of Lee Harvey Oswald and red beard Landesberg than they let on to. Plus, the WMCA radio host Barry Gray specifically told FBI that L'eandes and Rizzuto were definitely different people. FBI ignored this and made them the same person. You can't deny, wish, wash, or weasel around that solid fact if you are genuinely seeking the truth. There's clear evidence of a cover-up here even though some are trying to keep your attention focused on minutia. ========================== QUOTE OFF ===========================

RE: the Texas Employment Commission: Isn't it remarkable how the H&L Hit Squad around here effortlessly dismisses original source documents from the Texas Employment Commission, declaring them "wrong." The evidence shows that American-born Lee Oswald appeared at the TEC in April 1962 and Russian-speaking Harvey Oswald showed up two months later, after his return to the US. Of course, the Hit Squad ignores the long-suppressed FBI statement of TEC employee Laura Kittrell, who met both Oswalds in her office at the TEC and DECSCRIBED THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THEM. http://harveyandlee.net/Kittrell/Kittrell.htm

Great! We can't wait to see your article!!! The composite newspaper image with Wide World Photos clearer "retransmitted" image is still up on the H&L Website, on the parent page of the defection photo page. See here, about 3/4 of the way to the end: http://harveyandlee.net/Marines/Marines.html

I have been asking for 2 days for a citation independent of Landesberg's (not Rizzuto-there was no Rizzuto) statements that confirmed Earl Eugene Perry was from El Paso, TX. The document you cite says nothing of the kind, it only rehashes Landesberg's allegations. So I have my answer-Armstrong made it up like who knows how many other things. So his allegation that the FBI should have dropped all other inquires when Nichols found out Perry was from Texas and this shows a "cover-up" is false. All this shows is that you are unable or unwilling to do your own research on files that we have made available to the public at Baylor University. Nearly all the documents that you referenced in your 8600-word essay were from the John Armstrong Collection at Baylor University. John did all your research for you. Every document you need is on file at Baylor. Archivists are available for a fee to help you locate any document you desire, or you can locate it yourself. If you want to learn where Earl Eugene Perry was from, do your own homework instead of asking others to do it for you. We look forward to your rebuttal essay, which will show how dependent you are on John's research instead of your own.

Hey EDUCATION FORUMers... Don't forget to visit the Greg Parker Memorial Frankenstein Oswald page... right here: http://harveyandlee.net/Marines/Defection_Photo_Evolution.html

Now do some research!

Would you mind pointing me to a source of information that states Earl Eugene Perry was from El Paso TX or a statement from Landesberg that says Earl Eugene Perry was from Texas. I am not saying it doesn't exist, just that with Armstrong's track record I would prefer to see the document myself. BTW, it looks to me like Earl Sheldon Perry was from Texas so it doesn't seem strange to me at all that the FBI looked at him. Oh for crying out loud! John has gathered together all these documents and put them online so they are available for anyone with an internet connection and a computer to search and download without charge. We've already provided you a link above to the direct file at Baylor containing the reference you seek. Can't you do some ACTUAL RESEARCH, even when 99% of it has already been done for you? Here's a hint: From an FBI report from SAC NYC: "RIZZUTO stated that he saw LEANDEZ on 11/19/LAST at which time LEANDEZ stated that LEE OSWALD and EARL PERRY "were together again in Texas." RIZZUTO stated PERRY is from El Paso Texas...." From John's write-up: On Nov 25 SA J. Richard Nichols contacted Major Robert C. Whitebread of the USMC in an attempt to locate Earl Perry, who knew L'eandes (the actor) and Oswald. Nichols learned that the only Earl Perry on active duty was assigned to the Marine Supply Center in Barstow, CA., and was from El Paso, TX. But on Nov 26, instead of requesting the military file for Earl Eugene Perry (El Paso, TX), SA Leonard Lewis obtained the file for Earl Sheldon Perry from the Military Personnel Records Center in St. Louis. Earl Sheldon Perry was from Casper, Wyoming, joined the US Army in 1954, and was discharged in 1956. The FBI avoided contacting Earl Eugene Perry from El Paso, who was mentioned as an acquaintance of Oswald and L'eandes (the actor) by James Rizzuto, and instead collected information on Earl Sheldon Perry, a former chaplain's assistant in the US Army. The FBI's coverup relating to L'eandes (the actor) and Oswald continued.

There was only one Earl Eugene Perry. He was from El Paso, Texas, and stationed in Barstow, CA, just like Steve Landes told the FBI. The FBI decided it would be safer to interview a different Perry, and so they found an Earl Sheldon Perry, who was a chaplain's assistant in the United States Army, but there is no indication that they even bothered to interview him.

Well, Jim, thanks for sharing that link regarding the confusion of the Landesbergs and the Oswalds. IMHO, there is nothing convincing in the tale that Lee Oswald was in New York City -- what I see here is a simple case of mistaken identity -- not based so much on appearance as on name-similarity. We should probably try to tally how many people in the USA had the name, "Lee Oswald" in 1963. But the Big Lie of the "Lone Nut" theory should not spur us to take every account of mistaken identity seriously -- or as a CIA plot. Regards, --Paul Trejo Paul, The FBI clearly didn't share your sanguine attitude about the ubiquity of "Lee Harvey Oswalds" or "Lee H. Oswalds" floating around. As soon as the initial radio broadcast was made, the Bureau started a manhunt for the fellow who eventually turned out to be Steven Harris Landesberg, the student. And when Bureau agents heard what he had to say, they went into full Keystone Kops cover-up mode. Instead of locating and interviewing an important witness to Lee Oswald's activities in NYC while Harvey Oswald was in Russia, the FBI questioned Earl Sheldon Perry instead of Earl Eugene Perry. In their effort to locate the paymaster for Landesberg's and Oswald's agent provocateur activities in NYC, the FBI went to the Roosevelt Hotel in New Orleans, instead of the Roosevelt Hotel in NYC, where the paymaster stayed. Even more importantly, the FBI substituted and made a patsy of a student named Stephen Harris Landesberg, instead of interviewing the real provocateur who had worked with Oswald, Stephen Richard Landesberg, who later became an actor on the Barney Miller television show. Also, of course, part of this all is the amazing disappearance of all U.S. District Court files and backup files related to the commitment of Landesberg the Patsy to Bellevue Psychiatric Hospital for the crime of “lying” to the FBI. The earliest FBI reports of the Landesberg incident refer to "Lee Harvey Oswald" and "Lee H. Oswald," not merely "Lee Oswald." You can grab a copy of the reports at Baylor University's John Armstrong collection. A direct link to the early Landesberg filings is here: http://digitalcollections.baylor.edu/cdm/ref/collection/po-arm/id/42754 Easiest way to read these docs is to click the download button near the upper right of the Baylor screen and then read the PDF file locally. The FBI clearly wanted to shut down this episode rather than examine the reality that Lee Oswald was in Greenwich Village in late 1961 and early 1962. And so their agents showed pictures around the Village looking for Steve Landes rather than Lee Oswald. They were more interested in silencing Landes/Landesberg than in learning about Lee Harvey Oswald.

We're talking about this updated essay by John Armstrong on the two Steve Landesbergs: http://harveyandlee.net/Landesberg/Landesbergs.html

The FBI went out of its way to cover-up the entire Landesberg affair, which would have exposed the two Oswalds within days of the assassination. The story linked below provides all the gory details, but a couple of examples: Instead of locating and interviewing an important witness to Lee Oswald's activities in NYC while Harvey Oswald was in Russia, the FBI questioned Earl Sheldon Perry instead of Earl Eugene Perry. In its effort to locate the paymaster for Landesberg's and Oswald's agent provocateur activities in NYC, the FBI went to the Roosevelt Hotel in New Orleans, instead of the Roosevelt Hotel in NYC, where the paymaster stayed. Even more importantly, the FBI substituted and made a patsy of a student named Stephen Harris Landesberg, instead of interviewing the real provocateur who had worked with Oswald, Stephen Richard Landesberg, who later became an actor on the Barney Miller television show. There is much more to this coverup, including the disappearance of all U.S. District Court files and backup files related to the commitment of Landesberg the Patsy to Bellevue Psychiatric Hospital for the crime of “lying” to the FBI. Read the details here: http://harveyandlee.net/Landesberg/Landesbergs.html

The Story of Two Steve Landesbergs In the 1960s there were two young men living in and around Greenwich Village (in New York City) named “Steve Landesberg.” Although they were similar in age and appearance, there were distinct differences between them. One boy, Stephen Harris Landesberg (the student), was from Queens. He was quiet, introverted, kept to himself, a bookworm, and an honor student. He had black hair, a life-long speech impediment, stuttered profusely when excited, never wore glasses, and had no southern accent. The other boy, Stephen Richard Landesberg (a future actor), from the Bronx, was outgoing, likable and gregarious. He had reddish brown hair, occasionally wore rimless eyeglasses, enjoyed being around people, had no speech impediment, and acquired a Southern accent that he could use or not use at will. In late 1961 and early 1962 Stephen Richard Landesberg became entangled in activities involving the harassment of liberal and minority-oriented political groups that were active in and around the Village. During this time he befriended and became involved with American-born Lee Oswald, while at the same time Harvey Oswald and Marina were living in Russia. In the 1970s Stephen Richard Landesberg gained notoriety as an actor on the TV show, Barney Miller. The actor's relationship with Oswald motivated a number of JFK researchers, including author Carleton W. Sterling, Professor Stan Weeber (UNT, Denton, TX), attorney Carol Hewitt, author/researcher Joachim Joesten, and myself to investigate the two "Steve Landesbergs." To read the remainder of John Armstrong's updated write-up, click here: http://harveyandlee.net/Landesberg/Landesbergs.html

So... we are... PUBLIC ENEMY # 1 ??? Do y'a'll HATE US THIS MUCH???

Your work inspired me to vastly expand the 1959 "Defection" photo section... all the orginal stuff is still there, and much more. See it here: http://harveyandlee...._Evolution.html and here: http://harveyandlee....es/Marines.html And, for the hundreds and hundreds of posts you've made here and elsewhere discussing Oswald's Magic Tonsils, I've decided to put the tonsillectomy evidence back up on the website ASAP. Should be ready in a day or two. Just wanted to make it clear how helpful you have been. Thanks!