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South West Publishing's Warren Caster just happened to show off his Mauser to Oswald's bosses William Shelley and Roy Truly?
Obviously Fritz and others present when the rifle was being looked at took Weitzman's called out "Mauser" ID seriously. They repeated it later.
Which can only mean they respected Weitzman's gun knowledge enough to do so.
Why? Because they knew he owned a sporting goods store years previous that sold rifles?
Weitzman describes his ID call out as kind of a guess. That he only got "a glance" at the rifle and from his distance away and just a brief look, it "looked" like a Mauser.
Why would any responsible police officer in the most important crime and frantic heightened energy search situation in their lives shout out an ID claim like that just from a distant glance and without taking a closer look at the rifle before doing so?
The found rifle was clearly looked at from just inches away by "someone" at that scene.
According to fellow Dallas County Sheriff Roger Craig, Weitzman got that close of look at the rifle.
Roger Craig claimed "That's when Weitzman said, 'It is a Mauser' and pointed to the 7.65 Mauser stamp on the barrel."
Weitzman let Fritz and other high authorities like Dallas DA Henry Wade repeat his shouted Mauser ID claim to the world press without perhaps expressing to them or others that he wasn't 100% sure of his claim, again because it was based on "just a glance?"
These high position authorities were publicly stating the rifle was a Mauser...all because one man "Weitzman" claimed it just "looked" like a Mauser?
Guess it boils down to who you believe told the truth.
Seymour Weitzman...or Roger Craig.
And same with Caster's answer to Ball regards Caster taking the Mauser home on 11,20,1963.
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On 6/16/2022 at 2:53 AM, Robert Burrows said:
I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism. I helped make Mexico and especially Tampico safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefit of Wall Street. I helped purify Nicaragua for the International Banking House of Brown Brothers in 1902-1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for the American sugar interests in 1916. I helped make Honduras right for the American fruit companies in 1903. In China in 1927 I helped see to it that Standard Oil went on its way unmolested. Looking back on it, I might have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three districts. I operated on three continents.
-Gen. Smedley Butler
Wow!
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9 minutes ago, James DiEugenio said:
Joe, Denis is doing his John McAdams bit for you.
The idea that somehow you can simply blow off the Mauser sighting as being inconsequential is I think not really defensible.
Boone executed a sworn affidavit in which he described a Mauser rifle. (CE 2003,p. 63) And as late as midnight on 11/22/63, Henry Wade was describing the weapon as a Mauser. (CE 2169)
Fritz also thought it was a Mauser. (Meagher, p. 96)
In the ARRB declassifications, the FBI found a Mauser shell in Dealey Plaza. That was in Noel Twyman's book.
And as you note, there was a Mauser in the TSBD 48 hours prior.
Exactly.
Several important position key witnesses were calling it a Mauser all through the rest of 11,22,1963.
That's a lot of others who didn't think Weitzman mis-identified the rifle.
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1 hour ago, Denis Morissette said:
I meant on 11/22 after the shooting.
Don't you find it even a little suspiciously coincidental that a "Mauser" rifle was actually in the TXSBD building just 48 hours before 11,22,1963?
How many times a year were "any" hunting or military rifles brought into the TXSBD?
A building full of textbook and other related companies? Where there are as many female employees as men? Maybe even more?
Maybe never before?
This wasn't Bernie's Hunting Lodge in the Squaw Mountain Ranch area of Texas.
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"Buell Wesley Frazier shed a little light on this confusing situation when he told the authors in May 2015 that he recalled seeing a Mauser in the School Book Depository on November 20, 1963, two days before the assassination. It belonged to Warren Caster, an employee with Southwestern Publishing Company. Southwestern Publishing Company was then located on the second floor of the Depository. Caster was proud of his rifles and brought in both a Mauser and a .22-caliber rifle to show to Frazier's supervisors, William Shelley and Roy Truly, as well as to some of his fellow workers two days before the assassination. Other workers verified seeing Caster displaying these two rifles on November 20, 1963."
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"A CLEAR AND PRESENT DANGER" !!!
Today's lead news story and for days and weeks to come.
Today's January 6th insurrection hearing today:
Highly esteemed conservative former federal judge J. Michael Luttig calls Trump and his allies...
"A CLEAR AND PRESENT DANGER TO AMERICAN DEMOCRACY." !!!
WOW!
Now THAT is one powerful statement. By a powerfully respected legal scholar.
A sound bite that will probably frame the entire hearing process and be repeated 10,000 times both now and in the future.
That statement by that judge will devastate the Trump defense forces.
I think Judge Luttig's "Clear And Present Danger" charge against Trump will have the same powerful effect in bringing him down as one stated to Joseph McCarthy by the council for the Army Joseph Welch... At long last Senator "Have you left no sense of decency...?"
Two identical demagogues who set our country back through compulsive and highly divisive fear and hate mongering.
Seriously, I do.
Donald J. Trump.
"A CLEAR AND PRESENT DANGER TO AMERICAN DEMOCRACY."
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41 minutes ago, Denis Morissette said:
There are police photos of the Carcano, I’m sure you know. But none of the Mauser. There are photos and films of the Carcano inside and outside the TSBD. But none of the Mauser. Do you admit there was a Carcano found?
Perhaps.
But I am open to the possibility of two guns found.
Roger Craig stated Weitzman got a closer look at the rifle than Weitzman claimed he did.
Weitzman was closer to the rifle than even Craig. And Craig stated you could see the "Mauser" stamp on the barrel.
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On 6/16/2022 at 10:53 AM, Greg Wagner said:
Hi Joe. Based on the statements of multiple eyewitnesses and the efforts of the FBI and Warren Commission to manage the testimony away from the 5th floor and toward the 6th floor, I would argue the gunman you refer to was likely on the 5th floor, one window below the "Oswald" window. But that's a topic for another day.
There was a lot going on in those upper floor windows in the minutes leading up to the assassination. And it was happening in full view of the spectators below, with seemingly no attempt to conceal the suspicious activity - men with guns. Punctuated by your point: A guy hanging a rifle out the window and cranking off multiple rounds in full view of the crowd below. None of this makes any sense if the goal of the operators observed in those windows was to shoot JFK, regardless of the shooter's identity or the specific window or windows. If, however, their goal was to draw attention to themselves and finger Fidel Castro, it makes perfect sense.
I agree with you, Joe. I believe the activity in the TSBD was largely - perhaps exclusively - theater. A theater of the absurd. Those south-facing windows of the 5th and 6th floors, like sliding panels in an illusion show. Designed to capture the attention of the audience and assign blame to Fidel Castro via Oswald, for an assassination or assignation attempt against Kennedy. There is no evidence that lethal action was applied to Kennedy from behind (the TSBD). The lethal action was applied from in front of Kennedy. Unless you’re part of the Arlen Specter, Warren Commission, jet effect, Dan Rather, etc, etc crowd. <eyeroll.gif>
This multiple shooter plot theory makes sense if one looks at the booming loud 3 shots from the 6th floor of the Depository building as a classic multiple shooter mis-direction tactic.
I've always thought from just a common sense perspective, that loud booming shooting out the easily seen 6th floor window ( bathed and even illuminated in the brightest mid-day sunshine ) by hundreds of eye and ear witnesses just feet below was an act of mentally deranged, even suicidal proportion on it's own.
It was just too easily seen visible.
Let's say it was Oswald doing the shooting out that window.
To certain degrees Oswald was known for doing things that were dumbly risky regards his personal safety. Handing out pro-Cuba pamphlets in broad daylight in a city filled with hot headed anti-Cuban expats? Resulting in his being jumped and slapped around and even arrested. Traveling to Mexico City and trying to get into the Russian Embassy knowing we had cameras all around it. Taking a pot shot at General Walker and doing so without even a means to escape the scene without a car? Taking a bus home!?
The TXSBD shooting plan however would top them all in life risking dumbness.
For several minutes before the JFK motorcade arrives, you stand ( rifle in hand ) next to a totally sunshine illuminated open window easily visible to hundreds right below you?
Soon enough you're taking 3 loud booming shots from this window ( with the barrel sticking out no less) over 6 seconds?
Then, Oswald's running for his life escape plan is simply to toss the rifle, run down 5 flights of stairs, stop to buy and drink a Dr. Pepper ( ahhh...boy I was thirsty ) mix with the lobby crowd for a few seconds ( long enough to direct news journalist Robert McNeil to a pay phone) casually walk out the front entrance, then just a few more blocks to get on a city bus, then when it gets stalled in traffic he gets off and catches a cab back home.
That's the most ridiculously simple and poorest minimum wage budget escape plan after just shooting and killing the President of the United States one can imagine.
And yet...it worked!
You get 3 booming loud presidential kill shot rounds off in front of hundreds of crowd members and scores of security, and you are able to walk away like that?
It's all just too preposterous.
As was Jack Ruby getting inches away access to Oswald's gut in his perp walk through the DPD basement parking garage the following Sunday morning.
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Spreading lies about the Kennedys through controlled media channels for the purpose of
dissipating their influence through tarnishing their image seemed like a continuous widespread agenda back then.
I noticed mention of a "high powered, silenced rifle" with long range capability in the initial thread.
That Cubela requested one of these?
I take it there were such weapons back then?
Which lends at least some weight to the theory that one of these silenced rifles could have been used in Dealey Plaza on 11,22,1963 at the same time another rifle was blasting away with cannon shot loud booms?
Getting back to the most elementary aspects of the TXSBD building shooting story, you have a rifle barrel sticking out of the 6th floor shooting. This rifle booming out 3 shots. At some point, people on the ground are drawn to looking at the location source of the booms.
That would be exactly what another silent shooter would want. The crowd following the boom source.
A simple distraction shooting plan.
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I don't recall two different rifle photos.
And not sure who saw two rifles.
There is a video interview of Weitzman on You Tube where he contritely confesses his identification error after there was a suspicion arousing stink in the press regards his clearly contradictive Mauser ID versus the later FBI Carcano ID.
In this video Weitzman looks like a kid who got caught doing a very bad thing and was punished with a serious backside walloping and angry lecture.
Notice Weitzman in this video looking extremely uncomfortable, stammering, halting, constantly looking down and away and even closing his eyes completely at one key confession point.
He still defends his supposed misidentification however, as an "honest" mistake.
I'm no interrogation expert but this guy looks and sounds like he doesn't really believe his confession and is totally nervous and uncomfortable giving it. With even a touch of fear.
Looks like one of those close encounter UFO reporting people who after a few talks with the authorities, takes it all back and sheepishly admits they were hallucinating.
Shortly after noon on November 22, 1963, President John F. Kennedy was assassinated as he rode in a motorcade through ... -
What an odd piece of recording.
I listened to it again just now 5 or 6 times.
This time I could not hear the "behave" or "explain yourself" comment at all!
And unlike the 1st time I listened to it, this time I kept hearing "we can't hear you back here" from the fellow bellowing out "nobody said what?" just a split second after that question.
Also, just as the person in the press crowd behind the video recorder shouted his first "nobody said what?" comment I clearly noticed the eyes of one the white hatted police security men behind Oswald shift his eyes to his left...as if he zeroed in on the man shouting this.
I swear I heard the shouting man say "behave" the first time I heard this tape ... and this time nothing?
Yet in today's latest listen "we can't hear you back here." ?
I have roaring tinnitus in my left ear. Maybe this is causing me to mishear things? Or maybe gobbling down too many Tums last night ( 10 ) has effected my hearing as well?
A true quirky fun mystery ... chuckles.
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FRIDAY IS THE 50TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE WATERGATE BREAK-IN.
THE SUBSEQUENT INVESTIGATION, CRIMINAL TRIALS AND JAILING OF NOT JUST THE PLUMBER'S BURGLARY GROUP BUT ALMOST ALL OF NIXON'S CLOSEST STAFF IS CONSIDERED ONE OF THE HIGHEST IMPORTANCE POLITICAL CORRUPTION EVENTS IN OUR HISTORY.
PROBABLY "THE" MOST IMPORTANT IN IT'S BREATH OF HIGHEST GOVERNMENT POSITION PARTICIPANTS ALL THE WAY TO THE TOP OF THE EXCUTIVE BRANCH INCLUDING THE PRESIDENT HIMSELF.
OUR OWN FORUM MEMBER DOUG CADDY WAS ACTUALLY ENGAGED ONE ON ONE WITH THE PLUMBERS AS AN ATTORNEY DURING THE ENTIRE WATERGATE INVESTIGATION AND PRELIMINARY HEARINGS AND IS A MAJOR FIGURE IN THIS IMPORTANT ASPECT OF THE HISTORICAL EVENT.
HIS SHARING OF THE MOST INNER CIRCLE TRUE FACTS OF THE ACTUAL LEGAL HEARINGS OF THE BREAK-IN AND ALL THE SIDE STORIES CONNECTED TO THE CASE ARE SO APPRECIATED BY ME.
FASCINATING HISTORICAL RECOLLECTIONS FROM A TRUE INSIDER.
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The Weitzman rifle and scope misidentification incident is just another amongst the 1,000 other suspicion demanding ones throughout the entire JFK case.
All of which we have been told by our officially sanctioned investigative body were misstated, misunderstood, flat out untrue and even if partially true...totally unimportant in the final assessment truth finding report.
Of all the officers present on the 6th floor when the rifle was found and examined, Weitzman was asked to do the IDing because he was the most knowledgeable regards guns and especially rifles.
As County Sheriff Roger Craig correctly stated Weitzman was a "gun buff" and had actually owned and operated a "sporting goods" store that sold guns.
Sheriff Craig was right there next to Weitzman as Weitzman was examining the rifle from just inches away.
We are told to believe that not only did "gun buff" Weitzman mistakenly identify the 6th floor found rifle and it's scope, he didn't even realize his mistake until much later.
When anyone curious enough to study even 1/10th the reported testimonies of hundreds of eye witnesses having anything to do with the JFK event and the main characters involved and that suggests truths opposite of the WC finding you quickly realize this reality:
It is mathematically impossible for all of them to be untrue and to be totally unimportant in their WC final report contrariness.
Nothing to see here folks. Get back in your cars and go home and make some popcorn and watch TV.
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Trump has worked up this nation into a continuously hateful, angry, fearful, shouting match bar brawl.
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To put Trump's surreally outrageous constitutional duty violating crime into it's true gravity context reality;
Imagine a just voted out Governor in America watching their state capital house ( in full attendance gubernatorial election certification session ) be violently attacked and overrun by a blind rage murder shouting and screaming mob of thousands ... beating, kicking, hitting, smashing, spraying, shoving to the ground and even spitting upon an overwhelmed state house security force and terrorizing all the house members in it ... "gleefully" ... FOR HOURS!
Without calling in state national guard troops and/or any other state police force agency to reinforce and help the beaten down state house security that is being torn to pieces and rescuing the terrorized house members ... simply because the viciously attacking mob of thousands are this election losing Governor's supporters?
All while scores of aides, staff, friends and family are begging this Governor to do something to stop the carnage...or at least call off the Governor's supporting attack dog mob?
Imagine this Governor being my own California Governor Gavin Newsom.
When one allows themselves to face the "true reality" of the resulting great mass physical human injury, symbolically sacred building structural damage and trapped victim emotional trauma of such a mob attack, there is no logical and responsible democracy respecting and protecting way to dismiss or downplay it's gravity and the sickening ultra self-serving motivation behind it.
Then, to add outrage to outrage after the allowed mob attack damage has been done, this Governor goes on national T.V. to tell these marauding injury causing thugs ...
"We love you." "We feel your pain." "You are special." !!! ???
But no such loving and sympathetic message to the beaten up security force and traumatized legislators inside?
And later calling those thugs jailed for their attack "political prisoners." ???
There is a hugely financed campaign in every area of our media to numb the minds of Americans to the true gravity of Trump's almost unbelievable constitutional violating negligence in purposely avoiding protecting and rescuing his own federal government officials, their staffs and security forces in their ultimate time of need.
So far this criminal action down playing brainwashing campaign is working out well in spades with half our nation's citizens expressing their agreement with and acceptance of this dismissive mentality false reality.
It's a truly sad and even tragic state of affairs when half our nation refuses to see and admit the reality of the injurious harm to so many and our entire democratic/constitution based government and society Trump's constitutional duty crime of purposeful non-action negligence created.
IMO anyway.
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7 minutes ago, Steven Kossor said:
Thanks, Joe. I guess the clip’s an audio Rorschach test after all so it qualifies for the “food for thought” moniker.
Steven, is this audio real?
Or is this an "audio shopped" thing?
Just for fun?
If it's real, what in the heck is the meaning of "nobody said what?"
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I played and replayed the 10 second recording 10 or more times.
The voice in the background clearly says "nobody says what?" - a question - twice.
And this same person then clearly says "behave yourself" condescendingly.
However, it sounds to me as if the person saying "nobody says what?" is addressing this question to "someone else" besides Oswald.
The reason being someone else responds to his "nobody says what?" question and "behave yourself" admonition comments by immediately responding back ..."okay."
Curious original post and question. Is this some type of audio interpretation Rorschach test?
Also, slight correction regards the quoting of Oswald's response at the midnight news conference when asked whether he had killed the President.
Oswald actually says ...nobody has "axed" me that question.
To me this reflected Oswald's many years of being around and hearing Southern black lingo pronunciation of the word..."asked."
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Interesting background SK.
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3 hours ago, Paul Brancato said:
I know there are a lot of fringe right news sites, and of course tons of right wing radio. There is very little equivalent on the left. Reminds me of the old Point Counterpoint CNN show which I thought was a right wing pundit and a barely left of center pundit debating. One rarely sees left wing intelligentsia in any media format. The Hate that spews from right wing talk radio has no equivalent on the left. So what conclusions to draw? It takes money to own radio bandwidth, and that money is almost always right wing Republican money. So who is doing the dividing?
Paul I've been posting about the huge one sided right wing political propaganda commitment to talk radio for years.
I'm sure there are books out there on the subject yet I haven't come across any. Pure laziness on my part for not looking harder.
Like you stated, it has been obviously clear during the last 30 to 40 years that our "nationally carried " radio waves have been inundated with extreme right political and social agenda pushing commentary talk radio.
At one time you had Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, Mark Levin, Michael ( real name Michael Weiner ) Savage, Sean Hannity, Bill O'Reilly, Bill Bennett, G. Gordon Liddy, Oliver North, Alex Jones, and even others incessantly inculcating 50 million listeners with their high energy, fear feeding, left demonizing rants 24/7. All carried nationally.
Without hardly any nationally broadcasts radio programming like this on the left.
Michael Reagan lasted only a year or two. Thom Hartman isn't even broadcast nationally and if so by only a miniscule number of stations.
Most American radio stations have been bought up by right wing interests.
You could hardly turn the radio dial without hearing any number of these extreme right wing propagandists constantly pounding and pounding away at the evil liberals as soft on crime, cop hating, commie sympathizing, black coddling, illegal immigration and queer lifestyle pushing and abortion loving boogie man agents of the devil.
Fox news has continued this incessant extreme fear and hatred liberal left demonizing propaganda campaign even more powerfully and successfully in the television media milieu the last 30 years.
Together these two massively financed and broadcast ( 24/7 ) propaganda machines have so successfully turned half our society into liberal left, democratic party hating and fearing followers and promoters of this mind set they actually believe the extremely violent and injurious mob attack on our Capital building, it's police and our congress members inside on January 6th, 2020 was... well...okay!
This is where all this massive, decades long, 24/7 left bashing propaganda machine spewings has led us.
A nation extremely divided by anger, hate, fear, rage, bias, resentment, you name it.
And with this same half of our society willing to let our democracy and constitution be violated so willfully and aggressively it is in danger of being lost!
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Watched the hearing last early evening.
Two hours is quite a short time.
I think this is wise in the beginning however. Any longer than that and huge chunks of the TV viewing audience would surely start to lose interest. Especially when it was shown so late in the day. Approaching bed time back East.
I remember when Hillary Clinton was put on the grueling hot seat during the Benghazi hearings for 8 hours at a time!
The film footage of the attack from beginning to breaching the inside of the Capital Bldg. was the most compelling part of the hearing.
Thousands attacking, screaming, cursing, threatening, hitting...truly terrifying!
The blond Capital policewoman really took a beating.
First knocked unconscious, then later sprayed directly in her eyes with pepper spray?
She kept battling though. Tough and courageous lady!
When asked to share her most affected feelings and thoughts about her experience she stated that the attack was so aggressive and massive it seemed unreal to her. Like something out of a movie.
In parts of the close up filming of the attack, amidst the terrifying roar of screams and threats and Trump slogan shouting, you can hear some of the Capital police desperately calling for back up support. Over and over.
But such support never came! For hours!
The attack was so widespread and vicious with so many police seriously injured I still can't believe the lack of reinforcement help, withheld from those left alone police officers battling for their lives and to save the lives of almost all of our congress people and their aids inside the building.
I thought about the reality that if any police force all across our country were caught in a fight for their lives in a similar massively outmanned situation, surrounding police forces would have raced to their side within minutes.
Hear in California, if a police department were under attack like our Capital police force was on January 6th, 2020 other city police forces, county Sheriffs, state police like the Highway Patrol, national guard, local FBI, Homeland security, military police you name it...would have had hundreds of personnel to that scene no later than 1/2 an hour!
How our Capital police forces were left alone to fight for their lives with no begged for reinforcement help for hours is what sickens me to the core.
Whoever kept reinforcement help from being sent to the Capital building for so long despite desperate pleas from those defending it and our congress persons which resulted in hundreds of injuries, death of a protestor, great destruction of property, serious post traumatic stress upon the police and our terrified congress persons should be held accountable.
What kind of a sick person would allow such widespread police and congress injury and trauma to occur when they could have completely prevented it or in the least immediately cut it short ... just to benefit their own diluted sense of personal gain entitlement?
And to watch this hours long terror event happening with giggling glee and ignoring pleas to take immediate serious help action is just...well...sadistic.
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On 6/8/2022 at 11:35 AM, Rob Clark said:
I have audio of an interview with Gen. Krulak denying his Landsdale in Dealey Plaza claims.
Did General Krulak "ever" say anything else about Prouty that in anyway impugned Prouty's character, honesty and health of mind or suggested anything close to ulterior motives on the part of Prouty and his books and statements regarding the JFK assassination?
I question Krulak pulling back what Prouty reported he stated about Lansdale in Dealey Plaza.
Even retired generals have character flaws and/or fears of repercussions when it comes to relating everything they may know about very sensitive secrets.
Maybe Krulak is the one being dishonest here. Prouty's record of military service is as exemplary and as high position placed as Krulak's.
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15 hours ago, Ron Bulman said:
Not to go off on a tangent here . . . But when I first read of Lansdale in Dealy Plaza afterwards I though no way would he be seen there. I still wonder. But. Here is Krulak's letter to Prouty. It's pretty straightforward on the ID. The picture is supposedly what made Prouty first question events. "That is indeed a picture of Ed Lansdale . . . ".
I believe there is head, posture and leg and arm body moving gate computer generated technology now that would make a positive identity of Lansdale almost 100% possible.
I have read several articles on this technology being so advanced and reliable many countries now use it for many areas of surveillance security. I think the Chinese have got this down to a scary degree.
In regards to someone deceased and from many decades ago I believe that this technology is still viable if they have enough body movement videos and still shots of the particular individual.
I can't source this info to one or even two irrefutable reference points.
However, I am sure others here have also read about incredible advances in this human identity technology.
If I win the lotto, I promise to spend whatever it would take to have this technology used in a study of the Dealey Plaza lanky suited man/ 3 tramp perp walk photo.
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11 minutes ago, Sandy Larsen said:
Why isn't suicide on that chart?
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1 hour ago, Ron Bulman said:
I've actually got this. My daughter bought it for me for my birthday or fathers day a few years back.
I have some JFK and RFK memorabilia myself.
I even have some form letters of appreciation that were meant to be sent to donors to RFK's presidential primary run campaign in 1968. RFK's signature on these are auto penned.
These and other RFK presidential primary campaign paper items were supposedly acquired by an RFK supporter who was actually present in the Ambassador Hotel the night RFK was murdered there.
He told my wife he gathered boxes of material from tables in the ballroom after most people had left that night.
This fellow opened a wonderfully designed and appointed curio and historical item gift store on the main downtown street in Monterey called Alvarado Street back in the 1990's.
My history buff wife bought quite a bit of items from the shop. She said the owner was a very interesting person with fascinating first person stories to share. After a couple years this fellow closed the shop.
We sold many of the RFK items to a historical papers dealer in Portland a few years back. He said he believed they actually did come from the Ambassador JFK campaign rally the night of June 5th, 1968.
The incredible allegation that Ruth Paine did surveillance on Castro sympathizers
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Very interesting.