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I expect an election losing Trump to exact vengeance beyond our imaginations with sadistic glee between November 4th and January 20,2021.
He has always gotten a turn-on by threatening to get back or actually getting back at people who he perceives to do him wrong.
Like he has said a million times over the last 40 years...when someone criticizes him or does him wrong in any way..." I hit back harder." " I attack harder."
Prepare for the wrath.
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24 minutes ago, Kirk Gallaway said:
Ha...right on Borat!
Some may consider visiting a Las Vegas strip joint and watching a simulated "Golden Showers" performance ( and seemingly liking it according to Michael Cohen ) as creepy.
Trump's publicly stated sympathy for recently arrested and jailed Jeffrey Epstein child sex victim procurer Ghislaine Maxwell is creepy as well.
Bragging about "grabbing women by the pu$$y" ... and how they let you do it because you are a celebrity...now what is more creepy than that?
And facing charges of rape in a NYC department store dressing room by a long time and respected New York City columnist ...with a defense that "she isn't my type" ??? That is Bill Cosby creepy territory.
Looking at a friend's attractive teenage daughter and joking about her being a future date?
Telling your niece ( Mary Trump) "you are stacked" after not seeing her for a long period of time ... creepy, creepy.
Taking overly affectionate father/daughter pics and commenting how if she wasn't his daughter he wouldn't mind ...whatever...how much do American citizens have to hear about Trump's own creepiness to consider the old saying "the pot calling the kettle black?"
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4 hours ago, Kishan Dandiker said:
After a little look online apparently it was RFK. He was talking to an old family friend. It was quoted in Talbot’s ‘Brothers’ on pg 268.
That's what first came to my mind, having read "Brothers" years ago.
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6 hours ago, Ron Bulman said:
I don't think RFK. Lisa Pease would be the definitive source on this. Lot's of possibilities. Helms, Bissell, LBJ, Bundy, more.
Nixon?
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Maybe Hoover? Maybe Robert Kennedy?
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Who was it that said something like "If the public knew the truth, there would be blood in the streets."
???
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Disagree that a proven identification of the Dealey Plaza/Tramp Walk/ Lanky Man will never be known.
Does anyone know how technically advanced we are now in regards to individual identification?
A person's posture and gait is now used in this process.
There must be some photo's of Lansdale from the side and back and probably video of him walking?
Other body points of advanced ID technology include head size, shape, head stoop, hair type, color and cut, ear type and location, neck length, shoulder width and slope, arm swing and length, hand shape and carry, etc. etc.
Also whose surmises should carry more weight than Prouty's?
A highest level military/intelligence insider for 10 years ... or those of a researcher or debunker who had none of this kind of insider access?
The person sitting next to Prouty on that debate table kept trying to debunk Prouty by stating what Prouty was saying was "irresponsible, unethical, not based on real evidence" etc.
He also trashed Stone's film using the same argument.
Who was this guy? Did he have some deep intelligence insider's knowledge of any aspect of the JFK event enough to know that Stone's JFK was complete bunk?
Or was he also "surmising?"
That guy seemed like a planted disinformation agent in my opinion.
If Garrison was owned by Mafia Godfather Carlos Marcello, he sure didn't try to prevent Robert Kennedy from throwing Marcello's hide on a plane and dumping him into the jungles of Guatamala.
I do think that Garrison was aware of the power of Marcello and of the Mafia in general thoughout the entire U.S.A. in the 1950's and 1960's. Immense power and influence. I have written that the power and influence of organized crime in the country back than was 50X times greater than the average American citizen knew.
Perhaps Garrison did hold back investigating Marcello more than a fearless Elliot Ness would and honestly, to keep himself alive? Even if this was true to a certain extent, Garrison's efforts in his JFK conpiracy case were still courageous to a heroic degree imo.
And don't forget, even the FBI wasn't backing up crusaders against the Mafia and Hoover wouldn't even acknowledge their existence for decades. Look what the FBI did with David Ferrie when Garrison sent Ferrie to them as a possible suspect in the Oswald connection affair?
Garrison knew they were working against him...not for him.
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25 minutes ago, Paul Jolliffe said:
Well stated, Jeff.
Totally agree.
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On 10/27/2020 at 11:07 AM, David Andrews said:
Orangeface got his packed Court, but stimulus aid on indefinite hold. If I were Wheeler, I'd say the Democrats were colluding in delaying the aid bill.
The Democrats have been fighting to get DOUBLE the financial help to hurting Americans. The cheap "skinny" help package Repubs won't allow this to happen. It's that simple.
And how much help will another measly $1,200 be to most of our job loss Americans?
How much will this actually stimulate the economy?
Tens of MILLIONS of Americans have been without full incomes for 7 or 8 months now ( less than half get 1/2 reduced unemployment insurance income ) with many of them falling months behind in their home payments, rents, car payments and on and on.
$1,200 won't touch the 6 months worth of fallen behind amounts they now owe.
The day after I received my $1,200 stimulus check last April, my 2007 used car quit running.
We had it towed to our regular repair service and by the end of the day our repairs added up to just under $1,400. Yes, the stimulus check covered most of that bill and was appreciated.
Since July however, our main family income job was lost due to the Covid. We are now living on unemployment. Less than half of the lost job income.
50 to 60 million Americans ( when you include the families of the jobless ) for sure now desperately need way WAY more financial help than that and with millions more probably needing at least some financial help as well.
The great majority of these help needing Americans are hard working and who held jobs before the pandemic.
Trump's Republican enablers holding back "any" help to this massive amount of hurting Americans for 6 MONTHS ( by trying to keep it half as much as the Democrats have been offering ) is a Hoover Depression neglecting crime imo.
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1 hour ago, Kirk Gallaway said:
Joe, it looks like your billionaire buddy, Bloomberg has granted your wish. He's doing last minute funding of Biden in Texas and Ohio??????
Bloomberg's no dummy and I see this as evidence Bloomberg thinks Biden can just run the table, and maybe get 400 electoral votes and get a broad mandate.
"15 million?"
Peanuts compared to his billion dollar run against Warren. Worse than peanuts.
Did you not read the comments by Democratic strategists in Georgia, North Carolina etc.,who are saying Bloomberg isn't committing near the Democratic party financial resource help he claimed he would months ago?
Party switching Bloomberg spent 1 BILLION dollars on his brief 3+ month 2019 Democratic party primary campaign and made it clear to Goldman Sachs that his goal in entering that race was to counter the threat of Warren and Sanders. An unheard of amount, even mind boggling. Especially for such a brief period of campaigning.
Bloomberg pulled out once Biden was assured of the candidacy ( and only then with a divided plurality ) and Warren and Sanders were marginalized.
So, now Bloomberg may have committed over 100 million dollars to defeat Trump?
With some of this coming in at such a late date just days to go before the election?
If you can't see the disingenuous Warren versus Trump commitment hypocrisy in those massive financial campaign amounts ( 1 billion versus 100 million + ) then what can one say?
My main point is I believe it is obvious that Bloomberg has had a huge influence in controlling who the Democrats chose for their final candidacy in this election. He is a king maker who was willing to spend whatever it took ( unprecedented ) to make sure the Democrats didn't choose a candidate that was a threat to his and others banking power interests.
What we got this election was a Bloomberg approved candidate. Perfect example what money can still buy in our political power process.
And I also believe Bloomberg was making deals with black political leaders even before and leading up to the Super Tuesday election to promote Biden over Warren and Sanders with their voters with promises of financial infusion later on.
The political figures quoted in the articles above said as much and are from large black voter states and I assume leaders of these voter blocks.
Bloomberg's influence in effecting the 2019 Democratic primary election is obvious and ominous imo. You really see how super wealthy person's with specfic personal interests in mind can and do have much more power in this regards than even millions of average Americans.
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Regards Salandria's and Fonzi's discussion of the barely damaged bullet found on Connally's stretcher:
I know that some ballistic experts ( anybody besides the FBI? ) studied and weighed in on the subject of bullet damage.
And whether the "Magic Bullet" found on Connally's stretcher could have gone through JFK ( admittedly only through soft tissue ) then hitting Connally and breaking rib bone, then exiting Connally's upper body and re-entering his wrist area and breaking bone there and then exiting his wrist and entering Connolly's thigh and lodging itself just under his skin there to then just fall out onto the stretcher used to carry Connelly through the ER to the surgery area with the minimum damage shown?
And the person or person's who first discovered the bullet never described seeing any blood or tissue on it.
Do bullets going through two bodies and smashing bones and ripping through bloody tissue and muscle while doing so...self-clean themselves immediately upon falling out of their blood and tissue filled targets?
What was the general consensus among the experts regarding whether a bullet could do the multiple bone breaking damage to Connolly and be as undamaged as the Connally stretcher found one?
Did most experts decide that a bullet like the Connally stretcher one could indeed do the damage it supposedly did and be as non-deformed as the Magic one?
I know the incongruous Magic Bullet story is old news, but it is still worth mentioning imo.
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Elizabeth Warren fearing Bloomberg spent 8 to 10X more to defeat her than Donald Trump.
With Bernie Sanders capturing early state victories and Elizabeth Warren ranking second in a new nationwide poll, Bloomberg will be likely looking to stop the progressive candidates’ momentum in tomorrow’s debate.
dated Oct. 26, 2020, 3:23 PM PDT
The latest political news and analysis from the campaign trail.
Ben Kamisar and Liz Brown-Kaiser
190d ago / 3:09 PM PDTMike Bloomberg spent over $1 billion on presidential campaign, new FEC reports show
WASHINGTON — New FEC reports released Monday reveal that former 2020 candidate Mike Bloomberg spent over $1 billion on his brief presidential bid.
The reports show that he spent a total of $1,051,783,859.43 through March of this year. Bloomberg, one of the richest men in the world, didn't accept individual contributions during his bid and instead self-funded his campaign. According to Advertising Analytics, Bloomberg spent $453 million on television ads and at least $82 million on digital ads. He also invested heavily in polling and building up a large campaign of over 500 staffers across the country.
Mike Bloomberg speaks during a campaign rally at the Palm Beach County Convention Center in West Palm Beach, Fla., on March 3, 2020.Matias J. Ocner / AP file
Late last month, Bloomberg announced he’d pour $18 million into the Democratic National Committee, transferring the funds from his campaign to boost the party apparatus instead of creating his own super PAC.
The former New York City mayor's campaign now faces a potential class action lawsuit for allegedly promising jobs through November to over one thousand campaign staffers and then laying them off after the campaign was suspended. The staffers stopped receiving paychecks in the first week of April, and will stop receiving health care benefits at the end of the month.
Bloomberg announced his candidacy in November and dropped out of the race on March 4 after a poor performance on Super Tuesday. The billionaire entrepreneur’s only electoral victory was in American Samoa.
Bloomberg Vowed To Spend Whatever It Takes To Beat Trump. Democrats Are Still Waiting!
July 29, 20205:00 AM ETHeard on All Things ConsideredMike Bloomberg, seen here speaking to supporters and staff in March in New York City, spent $1 billion of his own fortune to run for president but exited the race early on.
Updated at 10:58 a.m. ET
When a billionaire with a history of investing generously and strategically in campaigns promised to spend whatever it takes to defeat President Trump, it made Democrats sit up and take notice.
And how did they interpret that pledge from former New York Mayor Mike Bloomberg?
"It meant spending about a billion dollars," said Jim Messina, who ran President Barack Obama's 2012 reelection campaign. "It meant making sure that Donald Trump did not have the typical incumbent advantage on finance, and it meant helping us catch up in a couple places where Trump was well ahead of us, which was digital and data."
It is the most ambitious campaign promise ever made by someone who isn't still running, and Bloomberg fully intends to fulfill it, according to former Philadelphia Mayor Michael Nutter, the national political chair of Bloomberg's short-lived primary campaign, in which the candidate spent $1 billion of his own fortune. But Nutter also says that "whatever it takes" can't be defined simply by a specific dollar amount; instead it's about how and where Bloomberg spends his money this year.
North Carolina is one of those, and it has pretty much every political prize on the line in November with competitive contests for president, U.S. Senate, U.S. House seats, governor and control of the state Legislature, with redistricting looming next year.
"What the Bloomberg campaign did right was they put money into field organizing," said state Rep. Graig Meyer, who is in charge of fundraising and recruiting for Democratic Statehouse candidates. "And so that getting campaign operations up and running, building a volunteer base, setting up the structure for direct voter contact — all of that is happening because they made that investment through the DNC."
But to give Democrats in North Carolina a real advantage, Bloomberg could do a lot more, according to Meyer.
"In no way has the Bloomberg operation put direct money into down-ticket races besides through the overall coordinated effort [with the DNC]," he said, adding, "$30 or $50 million is probably the right amount that would be a completely transformative game changer. I imagine Bloomberg could afford to do $30 to $50 million in North Carolina if he wanted to."
The Democratic leader in the North Carolina House of Representatives was even tougher on Bloomberg.
"I am the person he looked in the eye and said what he was going to do," said state Rep. Darren Jackson. "I am the person that endorsed him. And I have been the person that reached out to his campaign leadership."
Jackson said he doesn't know what Bloomberg's intentions are in North Carolina, but he adds, "I certainly hoped for help with the House caucus. We have such a once-in-a-decade opportunity. We need his help to take advantage of that. In whatever form he chooses."
In Georgia, Howard Franklin has similar expectations. He was a senior adviser in the state to Bloomberg's presidential campaign, and he is optimistic that Bloomberg will fulfill his pledge.
"I think he did set the bar high," Franklin said.
To make Georgia truly competitive, Franklin says, Bloomberg should make an eight-figure investment.
Georgia is another state with a lot at stake, as a longtime GOP stronghold that appears close at the presidential level, along with two U.S. Senate races due to a special election and competitive U.S. House races in the Atlanta suburbs. It's also felt the brunt of the two major crises of the year, the pandemic and unrest over racial justice.
There's a lot to invest in for Democrats to make the most of their opportunities in the state, according to Franklin: "I think eight figures gets you on the television in the media markets you care about. I think it puts boots on the ground. I think it gets you telephones and social media. And you know, again, with everything the country is going through and the attention that the city of Atlanta, in particular, has gotten, I just think that there isn't a better place to make the case for a more socially just and equitable approach to policing."
Bloomberg is getting pitches like that all day, every day.
Although there's no evidence yet that he is spending all that he promised, that doesn't mean Bloomberg can't or won't in the remaining days of the campaign, now fewer than 100... ( now down to 7.)
The remaining investments are "still being determined and decided and figured out" according to Nutter: "I mean, this is politics. You don't just kind of throw the money out the window and hope it lands in the right places. Mike makes strategic investments to change outcomes using data and evidence."
In the next month or so, Bloomberg's team says it will be clear how much and where he has decided to invest, and then Democrats can decide for themselves whether they think he's spending whatever it takes.
Goldman Sachs Says Buy Health-Care Options on Elizabeth Warren's Surge
By andSeptember 24, 2019, 10:13 AM PDTFeb 24, 2020 — Audio Bloomberg defends banks calls Elizabeth Warren scary ... from what is thought to be a private Goldman Sachs event, Bloomberg first can ... President Barack Obama but, according to CNN, Bloomberg told the audience ..."With Bernie Sanders capturing early state victories and Elizabeth Warren ranking second in a new nationwide poll, Bloomberg will be likely looking to stop the progressive candidates’ momentum in tomorrow’s debate." -
Despite cries of censorship, conservatives dominate social media
GOP-friendly voices far outweigh liberals in driving conversations on hot topics leading up to the election, a POLITICO analysis shows.
BY MARK SCOTT
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4 hours ago, Joe Bauer said:
Don't know if the few of you who saw my post here with it's picture knew this lady is not Amy Coney Barrett.
Or you did and this remarkable look-a-like person photo isn't worth commenting on.
However, I think the resemblance is so close, it is worth posting.
This lady above is Amanda Knox. Infamous suspect in a love triangle murder in Italy years ago.
Her resemblance to Barrett is so close, it has been recognized by many already.
Knox herself offered to appear on Saturday Night Live in any skit they may have in mind regarding Barrett and her controversial appointment to the SCOTUS.
Same eyes, same eye color ( blue ), same exact brow shape, space and length, same nose, lips and face shape, same exact forehead shape, width and height, same skin tone, same hair type, color and style and parted the exact same way ...
A true doppleganger.
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We just got a reverse RBG for the next 30 years.
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51 minutes ago, James DiEugenio said:
Its really something is it not?
Gore gets more votes than W in 2000. But then his brother steals the election in broad daylight, thanks to the originalist Justice Scalia.
W steals the election again in Ohio in 2004.
HRC outpolls Trump by nearly 3 M votes but loses.
This is why I say that if Biden is a real Democrat he will do these five things:
1. Make District of Columbia a state
2. Make Puerto Rico a state
3. Expand the court to 13
4. Do away with the Electoral College
5. Make Sheldon Whitehouse AG
Agreed.
But doubted.
Biden won the nomination via a plurality.
Not my choice.
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Jim D.
Any thoughts on the John Judge story of his Pentagon employee mother working on a 10 year long Viet Nam troop commitment, death and injury count study before the war was even begun? One that turned out to be uncannily accurate?
If Judge's story is true wouldn't this have proven a highest level planned Viet Nam build up and war behind JFK's back?
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1 hour ago, W. Niederhut said:
Trump is like a used car salesman selling a lemon.
I used to use that same analogy myself is trying to gauge Trump.
As laughable as that job title is in depicting outrageous pitches and come ons it really is a true one in describing him.
And I have actually come across used car sales persons like that.
Car has some scratches and dents? Oh, nothing a little rubbing compound and wax won't improve.
Car has a hard time starting? Oh, it's just been sitting too long without running.
What about the black fumes coming out the tail pipe? Oh, same thing.
Is that 190,000 on the odometer? Uh, probably. But even if it's 290,000 the previous owner only drove the car to work and back.
The car reeks of stale cigarette smoke smell? Hey, a mirror hanging fragrance stick will cover that smell up fine until the car smells of your own body odor.
Tires look a little bald? Let me tell you, they've still got a good 10,000 to 15,000 miles left on them.
Let me tell ya "buddy" this car isn't a lemon ... it's a lady killing piece of precision machinery just waiting for some sharp looking gentleman like yourself to take the wheel. Just look at that beautiful two tone orange and black color and those spoked wheel covers!
The bullxxxx from a used car salesman ( especially a desperate one ) is the boldest and most brazenly exaggerated and even lying you will ever hear. To the point of perverse laughter on the customer's part.
Trump has made about a dozen claims of miraculous Covid ending dates, cures right around the corner, it isn't that bad...whatever, since February of this year.
And each claim has turned out to be a false one with major psychological and physical let down consequences to all of our entire society lives as a result.
How many let downs can a society accept from a used car salesman exaggerating leader before they finally decide to fire the guy?
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Just viewed the 2nd half of the JFK film panel discussion.
Prouty doesn't come across to me a disinformation agent, nor less credible than anyone else on that panel.
He does seem to exhibit a slight cognitive decline in hearing and even slighter in his response time to questions presented to him.
Dan Moldea pressed Prouty about what Moldea claimed was Jim Garrison's connection to Carlos Marcello. A paid and controlled one.
All three times Moldea directed this Garrison/Marcello connection claim to Prouty and asked Prouty if this connection gave him any concern.
Prouty totally avoided answering Moldea's Garrison, Marcello
questions.
I do wonder why Prouty avoided answering Moldea's questions regards this supposed organized crime connection to Jim Garrison.
Perhaps Prouty felt the premise on Moldea's part was not worth discussing?
The audience members were rapt in their engagement with the debate forum.
Their questions well informed and sharp.
One younger man pressed Prouty about Prouty's attendance at high intelligence meetings where the murder of foreign country leaders was planned, okayed, whatever.
Prouty assumed a tough military officer tone and said he wasn't going to discuss whether he was or was not in attendance in such meetings. Pressed further Prouty then mentioned one name only ...Trujillo.
Great discussion video.
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I'm halfway through viewing the video posted above regarding the panel discussion of Stone's film JFK.
How in the world have I never come across this fascinating, thought provoking, informative and important debate?
Just one quick point that struck me in this debate.
Congressman Henry Gonzalez stated that in the deep content of the WC volumes, it was revealed that Jack Ruby was a "hit man" for organized crime during his time working for the Waste Paper Handler's Union ( run by Paul Dorfman) in Chicago.
Really?
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2 hours ago, Kirk Gallaway said:I saw 2 Sasha Baron Cohen flicks in the last couple of days, and I liked them both., I got a trial on amazon prime and I saw the Borat movie, It is like all his movies, cringing, sometimes embarrassing but revealing and funny.My wife and I viewed the new Borat movie last night as well.We both used the word Kirk used..."cringing" in our post viewing sharing.I loved the first Borat film, and laughed hearitly during this one, however this new film was just too gross in certain scenes.The Debutant Ball dance scene in particular could have been edited out with no loss to Borat's message.This film was definitely an anti-Trump piece. In between the crazy antics are some profound statements about Trump exposing his dangerous character and agenda.Always disturbing to see real non-actor Americans blindly worked up by Trump, and the far right agenda in general ( 50 years of hate promoting right wing radio propaganda commentary brainwashing ) which has emboldened these crazy violent whacko groups and given them their hate talking points and lines.I also wonder about the Giuliani scenes. There is a little too affectionate demeanor with Giuliani and his almost lusty big eyed, foot wide toothie Grinch grin and "there there my Dear" hand to hand touching imo.And his reaching out hand pat on the girl's backside as he was sitting on the bed and she was pulling out his mic wires from inside his shirt, just added to the "Hmmm" factor.Hand holding, back side hand pats, telling this young girl journalist she is pretty ... I don't know.Maureen Doud tweeted the worst possible opinion of Giuliani's encounter here.I could give Giuliani the benefit of doubt in his deep hand thrust into his private part area action.His shirt had been clearly pulled up from its tucked in position there.And I think I would not be able to tuck in my own front lower shirt if I was in a waist bent sitting position as he was. Hence the sitting back to do this.The depth and amount of time of hand thrust into his under pants groin area could be debated I guess, but I just don't think RG was doing anything more than shirt tucking.Still, going into the bedroom with drinks in hand should have been a no brainer "no no" imo for someone in that interview situation.RG was definitely smitten with this very young looking, short dress, leg crossed naive and praise gushing foreign accented journalist. He accepted a drink from her within a few minutes into the interview. I don't think this drink was apple juice. Again, Guiliani reaching out and grasping her hands to calm her was fatherly quaint I guess, but also just off enough to wonder imo.Did you catch what Pence was saying to the pac fund people? In what, early February? Of how Trump had the pandemic situation totally under control? We are ready for it. With only 15 ( 17?) cases at that time?The perversely false and down playing and damage causing comments of Pence and film clips of Trump throughout the film were as cringing ( or more so ) as any sexual antics of Borat and his daughter in the rest of the script imo.
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3 hours ago, Gene Kelly said:
I don't think this 1996 interview destroys Fletcher Prouty's integrity or importance, nor should we ignore what he has written and talked about. But it does weaken his credibility.
Gene
Curious GK;
Would you be willing to qualify your assessment above with more specificity?
To what extent does the interview weaken Prouty's credibility?
Significantly, noticably, somewhat? And in what areas of his body of work and claims?
How about in regards to Prouty's suspicion of Lansdale's presence in Dealey Plaza? And Prouty's noting physical characteristics specific to Lansdale in the Tramp photo?
How about Prouty's claim that Victor Krulak agreed with Prouty that the lanky tramp photo man did look like Lansdale to him also?
Did Prouty backtrack on his early suspicion claims regards Lansdale being the lanky business suit man in the Tramp photo?
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The inevitable end result of our last 56 years
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Posted · Edited by Joe Bauer
Can you imagine an Oliver Stone type "Trump" movie down the road after Trump is defeated?
The reality around this guy is so crazy, it would be hard to keep it from coming across as a perverse farce, even without "any" dramatic license!