Joe Bauer

Doug, thanks for getting back.

Can you again tell us again how you heard of this search? 

Your feelings regards the veracity of the source?

17 hours ago, Douglas Caddy said:

Status report on President Nixon’s Message to the American People hidden in the White House

 

Here is a recent strange Snopes report the subject. Much of it deals with an article from The National Enquirer about Jackie Gleason and Nixon, something never even mentioned by Robert Merritt in the Dark Journalist interview of February 15, 2018.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/nixon-alien-life-time-capsule/

 

A highly placed confidential source made contact on Friday to report that on Thursday, April 5, a team of intelligence agents entered the White House and proceeded directly to the library where the Message was hidden. They spent three hours searching for it using a thermal imaging machine that can see through walls. This search would only have been done if the Intelligence Community had concluded that there was veracity to the interview of Robert Merritt. It is not known of President Trump was even aware of that the search took place.

A second copy of the Message is hidden in the Library of Congress. That building is so huge and complex as to make any type of a search for the document there impractical and fruitless.

Doug, any word or sense that the agents found the document?

The fact they actually conducted this search is extremely intriguing.

Also in this first linked video we see Ruby charge out toward Oswald and Blackie Harrison is right next to him and following Ruby and his thrust by inches.

I was also always confounded as to why not one police officer ( all armed ) trying to subdue Ruby and having a real struggle getting Ruby's tight grip hand off the gun ( with Ruby even getting off an extra misfire?) didn't fire one shot at Ruby to stop this risky struggle?

And I also felt and share Jim Di's instinctive suspicion regards Fritz's unnatural body movement actions seconds before and even during the Ruby charge and shooting. Fritz weirdly wanders away from Oswald's position ( alone ) and starts raising and waving his arms ( all seemingly in slow motion ) next to the trunk of the backing in car as if he is somehow directing it and no one is even feet from him? 

Head of the homicide bureau Fritz takes on this weird, low level, seemingly unnecessary function?

Fritz looked like a mentally feeble rest home patient wandering away like he did and waving his arms.

Combined with the weird honking ( did the driver really need to blast this ear splitting horn ) in that confined space ) and all of this happening in the same 3 to 4 seconds shooting window?  The whole scene seemed weird, even staged. 

17 hours ago, Trygve V. Jensen said:

Semi-on topic; -- broken down snippets from the old days, (for ease) : (mostly from Evidence of Revision, but it seems some clip(s) were from "Murder of JFK - A Revisionist's History" and "JFK - Breaking the News".

The Killing Of Lee Harvey Oswald: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjphDSY5QJ4
Chaos at the Dallas Police Department: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7KItsGP0ps
Oswald is eliminated - The Aftermath: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrwZCpdvvHA
Did Oswald get picked up or not? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqHu1Aw2Z4s
The critical minutes - Dealey Plaza: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCdW8GntC-0
Excerpt from the Alyea film : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHyuApXqja0
The Depository revisited - Alyea#2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WQr4y1j4Gw
The Mauser 7.65 rifle: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AqqNKsWCGY
Search for an assassin: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqXOWMU4_3E
Various news footage - post assassination : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgtRwNq7vbE
The impeachment of LBJ - Nov22nd: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meCnZOZqNk0

Jack Ruby - part 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQ6bQmxE-qM

Jack Ruby - part 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDDxYOqyqlc

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Seems I derailed it a bit here, - sorry about that.

Edit : thought maybe something would be of interest, if people have trouble finding it, - even though Youtube is full of hits on this search now. Not sure what is blocked exactly , from other than my own country. Part 3 is blocked in the US, - when uploading the complete episode, as said.

In that first video link provided in Tyrgve's post you will hear one of the press people ( Fred Rheinstein ) who was present in the DPD hallways the evening of 11,22,1963 ( where Oswald is being moved back and forth in front of him and the crush of the press crowd ) say... that he hated to say it but the DPD actually "paraded" Oswald in front of them.

That is the extreme opposite of logical and adequate "security" for a criminal suspect of Oswald's alleged high crime magnitude.  So much so it shouts suspicion.

3 hours ago, James DiEugenio said:

This series is exceptional for the basic reason that it contains film footage that i have never seen before anyplace.

The stuff from the Dallas Police headquarters prior to Oswald being shot is like a jolt to the stomach.  You can actually see Ruby hiding behind Blackie Harrison.

Blackie Harrison was so obviously down playing his past interaction relationship with Jack Ruby in his WC testimony. And his explanation for claiming he never saw Ruby until he jumped right past him to blast Oswald in the gut ( glare of the press lights - focusing on what was in front of him ) was just preposterous.

It's so easy to believe that Harrison ( big and bulky and close in ) was Ruby's designated shooter position point man.

The failure to protect Oswald by the DPD is so beyond incompetence considering Oswald was perhaps the most threatened and important criminal suspect in America's history.

Parading Oswald in front of and through a chaotic shouting crowd ( any crowd - press included ) was madness considering that any nut could infiltrate that crowd as easily as Jack Ruby did Friday night. And Ruby again on Sunday morning.

The DPD allowed Oswald to be lynched.

And this specific lynching has proved to be one of the most important truth destroying events in our history.

Every higher up DPD official involved in Oswald's personal security should have been fired over this murder ... right in their own building!

Oswald should have been kept 100 feet away from any assemblage of non-police personnel and completely encircled by a thick cordon of bodyguards at all times of his moving for any venue.

And you don't broadcast such movement ahead of time to a crazy mob mentality public like a holiday celebration event. Surprised the crowd in the street in front of the DPD garage ramp that morning didn't include clowns on unicycles, pop corn and T-shirt vendors. 

DSL.

Edwin Luttwak's "Coup d' etat" is available on line.

I have been perusing it's first pages which get right to subject.

Fascinating.   You instantly become aware of the prevalence of this type of government takeover and it's enormous effect on entire societies all over the world.

You also can't help but contemplate and consider the possible tie in of this type of government change to the JFK assassination.

Walt Brown on Barr McClellan and McClellan's book "Blood, Money and Power."

(2) John Kelin, JFK Breakthrough (1998)

A Texas-based assassination research group has publicly named a man believed to have left a previously unidentified fingerprint on a box making up the so-called "sniper's nest" on the sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository.

At a May 29 press conference in Dallas, researcher and author Walt Brown said that the fingerprints belong to Malcolm E. "Mac" Wallace, a convicted killer with ties to Lyndon Baines Johnson. The fingerprints have been officially unidentified since President Kennedy was assassinated in 1963.

Brown presented data showing a 14-point match between Wallace's fingerprint card, obtained from the Texas Department of Public Safety, and the previously unidentified print, a copy of which was kept in the National Archives. The match was made by A. Nathan Darby, an expert with certification by the International Association of Identifiers.

The Texas researchers forwarded their findings to the Dallas Police Department, who passed it on to the Federal Bureau of Investigation. Copies have also gone to Assassination Records Review Board, the federal panel created to oversee the identification and release of records relating to the JFK assassination.

Malcolm Wallace, convicted in a 1951 murder and suspected in others, has been linked to the 1961 death of U.S. Department of Agriculture investigator Henry Marshall. Marshall was reportedly close to connecting Lyndon Johnson to fraudulent activities involving businessman and convicted swindler Billy Sol Estes.

Estes alleged in 1984 that LBJ ordered the killings of Marshall, President Kennedy, and half a dozen others, and that Wallace carried them out. A grand jury decided that same year that Henry Marshall was murdered as a result of a conspiracy involving then-Vice President Johnson, his aide Clifton Carter, and Wallace. No charges were possible since all three men were by then deceased.

Wallace was killed in a single car automobile accident in January 1971.

Barr McClellan, a Houston attorney and part of the Texas research team, told Fair Play that he began to focus on Wallace during his work as attorney-partner with Ed Clark, whom he described as an Austin power broker and one of those behind the assassination. "John Cofer, Wallace's attorney from the start, was our partner specializing in criminal cases," McClellan said. "From that position of insight, I knew Wallace played a key role in the assassination."

In the petition filed with the ARRB, McClellan wrote: "My direct involvement with Clark as his law partner and sole attorney occurred when he sought an additional payoff for the assassination." Negotiations for the payoff, McClellan told Fair Play, were "in May 1974 in a secret meeting with two members of the Railroad Commission."

The Wallace fingerprint match by Darby has been disputed by Glen Sample, who represents California-based researchers whose investigation parallels the Texas research. While Sample says the California group still believes Wallace "was one of the shooters" of President Kennedy, they do not believe his fingerprints are those from the TSBD box.

(3) Walt Brown, Barr McClellan’s Blood, Money, and Power (November 1, 2003)

On September 30, I mailed out the October, 2003 issue of the JFK/Deep Politics Quarterly, which contained positive, “endorsement” references to Barr McClellan’s “upcoming” work, Blood, Money, and Power: How L.B.J. Killed JFK. (That work also contains a jacket “blurb,” by me, which is valid in the sense that it reflected my opinions on the“to be corrected” “galley proofs” of the book that I read in July.) Several days later, I received the publisher’s edition of the book, and I have been deeply troubled by inconsistencies between what I read (and editorially corrected) in the page proofs and that which appears in the publisher’s edition, available for sale.

To readers of the journal, as well as to readers of my own works, I must issue an apology in that I would not have so eagerly endorsed this work had I known what the publisher’s edition would look like. I have known Barr McClellan for almost six years, and although we’ve never actually met, we have spent many hours together in the search for truth in the events of November 22, 1963. I have no reason to think that his work is in any way an attempt at deceit, but at the same time, I have no answers to the “why?” of how it went from a solid, stand-on-its-own-legs work in July to an almost fictionalized account in October. If anyone reading this found as much disappointment in the book as I did, I apologize if you made this reading selection based on my endorsement. For those who have read the JFK/Deep Politics Quarterly at any time in the past nine years, you know that when I review a published work, I tend to be critical, not laudatory. Had I not known Barr (from the proverbial “Adam”), and this book crossed my desk, I would have had no choice BUT TO BE CRITICAL of it, as it contains egregious errors of a factual nature and it takes literary license beyond bounds in its attempts to “factionalize” events not actually known, but highly suspected, by the author. I should also add that if the premise of this book was “Oswald only,” and it had such errors and “faction,” any reviewer who has had material published in the journal would have had a field day.

Chronology: Barr McClellan initially sent me his manuscript in 1998. It was an interesting read with respect to what he called “Bubba Justice,” a parochial nickname for the ol’ boy legal network in Texas. The vast majority of that manuscript dealt with that topic and devoted very little space to McClellan’s close working ties with Ed Clark, portrayed as LBJ’s “cover-up” lawyer in matters dealing with the JFK assassination.

There the matter rested until I became aware that the book was to be published, with the original publication date set for late 2002, and then moved to early 2003. Since I had not been privy to that process, I assumed the author was moving ahead, on his own, and I wished him well.

He sent me the “new” manuscript early in 2003, and I edited it thoroughly, both for mechanics (grammar, usage, spelling), and, more importantly to me, for factual accuracy. I rewrote parts of it for greater clarity in matters pertaining to events in Dealey Plaza. The edited manuscript was then Fed-Ex’d back to Mississippi in the depths of winter.

In June, I was asked to “take a peek at the galleys,” and another researcher, who had also worked extensively with Barr, was asked to do likewise. When the galleys arrived, in page-proof form, it was immediately obvious that the manuscript I had returned in February had been massively altered, and, in particular, there were glaring errors of fact in the galleys that had been added following the February edit. One case in point was a notation regarding Will Fritz, cited as the Dallas Police Chief. I was wholly at a loss to explain how that, and other, similarly obvious errors had made their way into the manuscript, but I had to remind myself that I had only been the editor, not the author.

I faxed the first 154 galley pages back to Barr in early July, but then literally hit a wall as I found error after error in the part(s) covering events from Love Field to Bethesda. These concerns were ALL directly addressed in a lengthy conference call held on July 11, 2003, involving Barr, the Texas-based researcher who also had great input into the work, and me. At the end of that phone call, both “editors” were assured that the provable corrections of fact that had to be made would ALL be made.

With that in mind, and with the long-held belief that John Kennedy’s murder could not have been accomplished without LBJ, and mindful that it had been LBJ who had created the Warren Commission, I wrote the blurb (along with the “rectangle” below it) for attribution on the back dust flap of a book that, as of July 11, I believed to be factually accurate, although it was always understood that I was taking Barr’s knowledge of the inner workings of the legal system as truth.

I still believe that Barr’s knowledge of the Clark-LBJ tie is accurate. Beyond that, however, both editors BEGGED Barr not to use “faction,” the name he gave to the blending of fact and fiction as a way of connecting the dots. I wrote “source?” so many times in the margin I grew weary of the task. If Barr could not be dissuaded from leaving out his educated guesses, both editors again implored him to italicize them, so the reader would know where documented material parted company with “faction.”

Oh..Gosh Darn...James got me.

10 hours ago, James DiEugenio said:

https://www.si.com/mlb/2014/10/15/curious-case-sidd-finch

 

This story needs no comment.

James, you got me here with this Sidd Finch story.

Was it all a fake story? If not, what ever happened to the fellow and the Mets?

10. It is utterly impossible for a murder suspect to take live bullets into a major city police station in 1963 and not have them discovered until hours later.

The idea that Oswald would still have live bullets anywhere on his person hours after his initial arrest is laughably ridiculous.

One can assume that police in 1963, when immediately confronting "armed and dangerous" suspects ( and in Oswald's very aggressive case of pulling a gun and actually pulling the trigger in his rough and tumble resistance fight with them in the theater makes him one ) would perform a subsequent search of every part of Oswald's person ( did he have another weapon on him? ) after they subdued him.

Didn't the patrol car officers go into Oswald's back pocket to pull the wallet out at that early stage of his arrest?  Yet they didn't even search his other pockets let alone at least pat them? 

And wasn't another complete body and clothing search normal procedure upon first processing a resisting, gun pulling murder suspect into custody back then in any police department more structured than Mayberry RFD?

To think that live bullets in Oswald's pocket escaped discovery until just before a line up hours after he was processed into custody is preposterous, unless perhaps they were planted there?

17 hours ago, Steve Thomas said:

Freudian slip Joe?

 

Don't hit me. I'm just teasing you.

 

 

Steve Thomas

Ha!   I just noticed the Freudian slip up Steve.

My mental lapses are increasing with every year for sure.

I even forget where I'm driving to sometimes!

I'll pull into Wendys and only then realize I originally intended to go to Taco Bell! 

And figuring out my  "4 For 4"  choices in the drive through there is getting more challenging as well.

Getting back to Lee "Bowers" ... I always considered this part of his WC testimony very intriguing.

Bowers described the younger man near the picket fence by his clothing.  Which matched so closely the clothing description Julia Ann Mercer gave in her same day interrogation ( 11,22,1963 ) regarding the younger man she saw taking a gun carrying case from the back of the stalled green pickup and taking this up the grassy knoll towards the area Lee Bowers later saw two men just before JFK passed on Elm.

Plaid or checkered shirt?

And whatever Mercer's young man took out of the back of the stalled pick up truck was quite elongated and in a carrying case or bag. And what possible reason would this truck passenger have for any tool or truck item on the higher ground of the Knoll?

14 minutes ago, Larry Hancock said:

I can add the anecdotal point that very reliable individuals interviewed his brother who stated that Bowers had been threatened and in the months following became extremely worried about some action against him for details he had observed but not officially elaborated on...

Exactly.

Lee Bower's single car collision death.

Suspicion justification point #1 :

Regards the black car the eye witness farmer reported as right behind Bower's car seconds before the collision ...

'"Most" normal human character drivers in a car immediately behind another that is involved in a major impact collision like Lee Bowers ( especially in broad daylight ) would not simply drive around and away from such an injurious scene. 

They would at least slow down or probably even pull over.

Suspicion justification point #2:

Cremation occurring extremely sooner than 90+% of normal time frames ( common sense/life experience guess.)

Suspicion justification points #3 thru #6:

Lee Bower's odd after injury mental state ( even considering shock ) yet with enough lucidity to reportedly state to someone involved in his emergency care he felt he was drugged at a coffee shop break not long before his accident. 

Bower's wife stating Bowers was told ( warned? ) not to talk.

Bowers going missing and incommunicado before the collision and re-emerging missing a finger...and no family or friends are told how the finger was lost or removed?

These and even more ominous points of substantially suspicious nature involving Lee Bowers, post his JFK event testimony and interview sharings, force one to consider his death as far from happenstance, from a common sense evaluation alone in the least.

Girl Number 1.

9 minutes ago, Cliff Varnell said:

 

Because Ruby shot Oswald I don't think the polling will ever get below 50%.

Totally agree.

Jack Ruby whacking Oswald will always be perhaps the main foundation catalyst for sensing a conspiracy more than the LN explanation.  Forever.

 

Paul, I agree about Ruby and his relationship with the DPD. And I could easily accept that they ( certain members of the DPD ) got word to him and set up Ruby's access to be able to shoot Oswald.

I do think there may also be other forces at work with this action though.

Who did many of the DPD have allegiances to in the JFK hating far right and racial anger arena?  We all know who.

Also, Ruby's phone calls to Chicago took a huge leap in number the month before the assassination. And this was just about Ruby's girls and band members demanding more in their contracts with him? Please.

And I wonder if Ruby gave any thought as to whether Joe Campisi and Carlos Marcello and Sam Giancana would approve of his whacking of Oswald? If these three Mafia guys didn't want Oswald to be hit and Ruby knew about their decision, you can guarantee he wouldn't have performed it.

There is a video of an interview of Dallas Police Detective Jim Leavelle ( Oswald's personal body guard ) where he talks about his actions and thoughts the weekend of 11,22,1963 thru 11,24,1963.

In this interview Leavelle says ( paraphrasing ) he was not even that concerned about JFK's murder compared to how he felt about fellow DPD Officer J.D. Tippit's murder.

Tippit's murder was his assignment and he took it personally.  Not so with JFK's.

It's common sense that many of the DPD force ( like Leavelle) also wanted Oswald's A$$ bad because they were equally enraged that Oswald killed one of their own. 

Talk about wolves guarding the hen house!

Oswald's security in the hands of a group of men who felt as Jim Leavelle did about Oswald was a death sentence for him in my mind.

One can rationally assume many involved in Oswald's personal security in the DPD building didn't want Oswald to have a chance at a trial where he might somehow get a reprieve from the kind of justice they felt this bastard "cop killer" deserved.

Leavelle also recounts how he told Oswald the morning of the transfer how he ( Leavelle) hoped that if someone were to take a pot shot at Oswald while he was attached to Oswald that he hoped they would be as accurate as Oswald and not hit him instead.

Think about this statement by Leavelle to Oswald for one minute.

It isn't such a far out thought in Leavelle's mind that this highly improbable and drastically violent action of someone trying to shoot Oswald while Leavelle is guarding him could happen? 

To me, it's a suspiciously bizarre sharing with Oswald. 

You'd think that Leavelle wouldn't be so insecure about such a risky attack ( like an open street one) during a very brief exposing of Oswald to a supposedly checked out "press only" assemblage inside a secure building with 70 armed police security and a quite short distance to escort Oswald until he got into whatever vehicle they were going to use to transport him to the County Jail.

Leavelle's precognitive thoughts of such an event were remarkably prescient in it's playing out just as he described to Oswald minutes later. Incredible coincidence? 

And Leavelle's guilty bias toward Oswald was so clear when he bluntly told Oswald he thought Oswald was accurate in his murder shootings.

Great choice to guard Oswald.

If I was writing this script for average citizens who knew little about the case and probably were never going to research it themselves, I would start off with recalling Oswald saying to the world's press  No..."I am just a patsy."  When asked by them if he killed JFK.

That statement by Oswald is a fact.

And it reflects "the opposite" of most lone nut advocate's claims regards Oswald's motivation to 
to shoot JFK - because he wanted himself to be known as a somebody in history. 

Oswald was trying very hard to distance himself from this glory grabbing event. Denying shooting anyone is not proclaiming one's grand place in notorious history.

And then I would present the impossible scenario of Jack Ruby casually by passing what was the most heightened security measures ever initiated in Dallas Police Department history to get within feet of Oswald and a clear shot into his gut...closer to Oswald than 68 of the 70 or more armed officers whose primary duty that day was to ensure Oswald's safety during his transfer to the County jail.

That failure and breakdown in that effort is beyond any explanation except collusion.

Ruby killing Oswald under those circumstances is to me the biggest single event that screams conspiracy.

With maybe a few seconds left I would ask listeners to trust their gut and common sense in deciding if they have been told the truth about the JFK assassination.

Referring listeners to all the great JFK research and books would be nice...but most of them would never put in this effort.

Thank You Michael.

Will respond via your e-mail.

Michael, so sorry I am not getting this.

I have gone to the web site listed and can't figure it out.

Can I list one of my personal e-mail addresses here on this thread and after you link up...share this story with you via this?

I could then delete my address as soon as I send the story so it isn't on this forum except for a brief time period?

Just went to this site. It's a Jeep forum.

No problem at all with this.  Just not sure my story would fit in with this main theme.

Paul, Michael, I could just e-mail you my story.

Bumping this.

I have a true and scary ( actually more strange than scary ) personal experience story I would like to share. Where do I go to post this.

1 hour ago, Paul Brancato said:

To everyone - I didn’t expect the response here, the many shows of support, and the ensuing discussion. Nevertheless I’m very gratified. I have decided not to leave, but please don’t thank me for this, or think I was fishing for support. 

Good.

Referring back to the initial thread context of Lee physically hitting Marina, the following statements by Marina herself ( under oath to the Warren Commission ) are very supportive of the claims that he did so and probably more than once or twice.

And what a horrible time and reason to slap someone. Just after they tried to hurt themselves?

I don't know why, but even Marina often downplayed Lee's treatment of her and how deep her unhappiness was with him. To a very depressed degree.

Mr. LIEBELER. The Commission has been advised that some time in the spring of 1963, you, yourself, either threatened to or actually tried to commit suicide. Can you tell us about that? 
Mrs. OSWALD. Do I have the right now not to discuss that? 
Mr. LIEBELER. If you don't want to discuss that, certainly, but I really would like to have Lee's reaction to the whole thing. But if you don't want to tell us about it--all right. 
Mrs. OSWALD. At my attempt at suicide, Lee struck me in the face and told me to go to bed and that I should never attempt to do that--only foolish people would do it. 
Mr. LIEBELER. Did you tell him that you were going to do it, or did you actually try? 
Mrs. OSWALD. No; I didn't tell him, but I tried. 
Mr. LIEBELER. But you don't want to discuss it any further? 
*Mrs. OSWALD. No.