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    Veciana, Oswald in Dallas

    in JFK Assassination Debate

    Posted

    It’s tough when you have to realize that you may have become a fanboy of certain people and myths surrounding this investigation. With regard to Geaton Fonzi it is particularly difficult. With regard to John Newman it is also difficult. 

    I have reservations about Newman’s speculation that Angleton was dimming the lights around Oswald in 1963. And, I think he puts too much credence in Tom Bailey’s proposition that Nosenko was a false defector. Right now I think that he has cast quite a bit of doubt on Fonzi’s claims regarding Veciana, Bishop and Oswald. 

    Are there any researchers who can put Newman’s findings regarding Veciana’s back-walking his first meetings with Bishop-Phillips into some context that preserves Fonzi’s findings?

    With regard to Bagely’s Spy Wars, I think the following document is important. I asked John Newman to comment on it  through a FB PM, and he was dismissive of the Edward Osborne doc and seemed to support Bagely.

    I tend to differ; and I feel that Angleton was a victim of dirty tricks regarding Oswald and he was trying to figure-out who was messing with him in the fall of 63. I also think that Osborne’s condemnation of Bagely’s motives and tactics are a relevant and damning criticism of the latter.

    https://www.archives.gov/files/research/jfk/releases/docid-32359254.pdf

     

    Where is the exit?

    in JFK Assassination Debate

    Posted

    1 minute ago, David Von Pein said:

    And heaven forbid somebody should actually have the gall to agree with something the Warren Commission said, right? (Oh, the horror of it!)

    But I don't really need the Warren Commission to figure out the SBT at all. 

     

    That's rich!  

    New document releases 2017 and beyond

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    https://www.archives.gov/files/research/jfk/releases/docid-32357061.pdf

    September 7, 1963

    Puerto Alegre, Brazil

    QUFLAGS  Not In MFF

    AMWHIP

    AMLASH

    AMWHIP

    MHAPRON

    AMWHIP arrived 5 September delayed by weather. Contacted and held first meeting with AMLASH same evening to arrange schedule for future meets.. This meet short as Jose Revellon Alonso expecting two for dinner. On 5 September AMLASH reported Revellon planning go São Paulo six September thus permitting more time for meets. On five September AMWHIP reported Revellon decided not to go due Cuban athlete's defection 4 September and fear more defections. This increases contact problems, Revellon now talking as if not interested returning via Prague as originally planned which may cancel AMLASH trip to France unless he feels it secure go alone.  As of now AMLASH plans return to Cuba Via Europe.

    AMLASH completed nine months training course with rebel army at end of which Fidel invited AMLASH to spend his vacation at beach house next to his. When Raul Castro gave AMLASH his military assignment as info officer for Cahaquay province AMLASH refused except and stated he rather go back to work in a hospital. AMLASH Left on present trip with matter or unresolved but feels this has not endangered his position with regime.

    AMLASH  reports GOC security and control greatly increased past year. Repressive measures so strong that all individuals opposed to government afraid to do anything. Emma is still feels there only two ways accomplish change either inside job or invasion. He realistic enough realize latter out of question. According AMWHIP, AMLASH Still waiting for US reveal plan of action. Disappointed with what demonstrated last year France as too cumbersome for his use. States he received only one letter (presumably first one which QUFLAGS mailed internally)  and claims he sent second letter sending address. When received our letter, he realized his second letter not received. This caused some concern. In sounding out minister of communications (who neighbor and friend) AMLASH could only determine that many letters were checked and stopped because GOC aware that mails used much to get info out of Cuba.he also felt there was nothing important to report during year (such as his having been told personally by Fidel of his planned a trip to Soviet union 15 days before ladder left).

    AMLASH  cocky totally spoiled brat who will always be control problem but feel his feelings against regime sincere and he basically honest. If commo is to be regularly maintained it obvious a second person necessary this capacity. Convinced AMLASH not type who will take time or have patience prepare or receive constant stream SW messages, let alone OWVL. AMLASH Also need strong confident inside who will push him and serve as chaplain. Plan discuss Marcelo ARTIME as possible choice fill this role. According AMWHIP Atime trusted by AMLASH. Artime boyhood friend of AMWHIP (see Falucci contact reports on AMWHIP leads).

    IfM last travels your recommend we prepared to train him AS/48 and more sophisticated SAB techniques. If he does not go Europe will instruct him SW and OWVL here.

    CIA Cryptonym research

    in JFK Research

    Posted · Edited by Michael Clark

    https://www.archives.gov/files/research/jfk/releases/docid-32357061.pdf

    September 7, 1963

    Puerto Alegre, Brazil

    QUFLAGS  Not In MFF

    AMWHIP

    AMLASH

    AMWHIP

    MHAPRON

    AMWHIP arrived 5 September delayed by weather. Contacted and held first meeting with AMLASH same evening to arrange schedule for future meets.. This meet short as Jose Revellon Alonso expecting two for dinner. On 5 September AMLASH reported Revellon planning go São Paulo six September thus permitting more time for meets. On five September AMWHIP reported Revellon decided not to go due Cuban athlete's defection 4 September and fear more defections. This increases contact problems, Revellon now talking as if not interested returning via Prague as originally planned which may cancel AMLASH trip to France unless he feels it secure go alone.  As of now AMLASH plans return to Cuba Via Europe.

    AMLASH completed nine months training course with rebel army at end of which Fidel invited AMLASH to spend his vacation at beach house next to his. When Raul Castro gave AMLASH his military assignment as info officer for Cahaquay province AMLASH refused except and stated he rather go back to work in a hospital. AMLASH Left on present trip with matter or unresolved but feels this has not endangered his position with regime.

    AMLASH  reports GOC security and control greatly increased past year. Repressive measures so strong that all individuals opposed to government afraid to do anything. Emma is still feels there only two ways accomplish change either inside job or invasion. He realistic enough realize latter out of question. According AMWHIP, AMLASH Still waiting for US reveal plan of action. Disappointed with what demonstrated last year France as too cumbersome for his use. States he received only one letter (presumably first one which QUFLAGS mailed internally)  and claims he sent second letter sending address. When received our letter, he realized his second letter not received. This caused some concern. In sounding out minister of communications (who neighbor and friend) AMLASH could only determine that many letters were checked and stopped because GOC aware that mails used much to get info out of Cuba.he also felt there was nothing important to report during year (such as his having been told personally by Fidel of his planned a trip to Soviet union 15 days before ladder left).

    AMLASH  cocky totally spoiled brat who will always be control problem but feel his feelings against regime sincere and he basically honest. If commo is to be regularly maintained it obvious a second person necessary this capacity. Convinced AMLASH not type who will take time or have patience prepare or receive constant stream SW messages, let alone OWVL. AMLASH Also need strong confident inside who will push him and serve as chaplain. Plan discuss Marcelo ARTIME as possible choice fill this role. According AMWHIP Atime trusted by AMLASH. Artime boyhood friend of AMWHIP (see Falucci contact reports on AMWHIP leads).

    IfM last travels your recommend we prepared to train him AS/48 and more sophisticated SAB techniques. If he does not go Europe will instruct him SW and OWVL here.

     

    Louis Steven Witt : Umbrella Man

    in JFK Assassination Debate

    Posted

    I hate to dive into this stuff, but heregoes.

    Years befor my interest in the JFK case I imagined a need for simultaneous fire on a single target or multiple targets. I always thought that some agency must have developed such a capability and that it must just be still a well kept secret. I imagine that this need arose, in part, out of the need to neutralize a hostage situation.

    Imagine if you will, several guns being trained on a target and triggers activated, but not fired, when the shooter is ready. Imagine that these guns are communicating with each other, and the gun only fires when all triggers are activated.

    I have mused, over the years, that TUM perhaps was working such a system.

    while not a hostage situation, a system in use in Dealy plaza would have been able to reduce the perceived number of, and confuse the direction from which multiple shots were fired. This system would also give the controller the final say as to when and if the shots were to be delivered.

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