Keyvan Shahrdar

Here is a Mary Moorman photograph straight from NBC. She tried to sell her photo, but no buyers. In the pergola you can see a man in the breezeway behind Abraham Zapruder. Mr. Zapruder in his first TV interview thought that he was in the direct line of fire. In the nix film, you see two shots from that area. There you have it, Arce was saying the truth. Here is the transcript of Mr. Zapruder's first interview: https://www.jfk.org/the-collections/abraham-zapruder-film/zapruder-interview-transcript/ Here is Mr. Zapruder's testimony - Mr. LIEBELER - Yes. Mr. ZAPRUDER - Yes--after the shots--yes, some of them were motorcycle cops--I guess they left their motorcycles running and they were running right behind me, of course, in the line of the shooting. I guess they thought it came from right behind me. Mr. LIEBELER - Did you have any impression as to the direction from which these shots came? Mr. ZAPRUDER - No, I also thought it came from back of me. Of course, you can't tell when something is in line it could come from anywhere, but being I was here and he was hit on this line and he was hit right in the head--I saw it right around here, so it looked like it came from here and it could come from there. Mr. LIEBELER - All right, as you stood here on the abutment and looked down into Elm Street, you saw the President hit on the right side of the head and you thought perhaps the shots had come from behind you? Mr. ZAPRUDER - Well, yes. Mr. LIEBELER - From the direction behind you? Mr. ZAPRUDER - Yes, actually--I couldn't say what I thought at the moment, where they came from--after the impact of the tragedy was really what I saw and I started and I said--yelling, "They've killed him"--I assumed that they came from there, because as the police started running back of me, it looked like it came from the back of me. Mr. LIEBELER - But you didn't form any opinion at that time as to what direction the shots did come from actually? Mr. ZAPRUDER - No. http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/zapruder.htm Here is Bill and Gayle Newman TV interview minutes after the assassination: Here is Bill and Gayle Newman TV interview years later: Here is Mr. Bill Newman's testimony: Q: How many shots did you hear? A: I heard at least three. I often thought of four, but I can't clearly say there were four shots; I can clearly say there were three. Q: Do you have any impression as to the direction from which the shots came? A: Yes, sir. From the sound of the shots, the report of the rifle or whatever it was, it sounded like they were coming directly behind from where I was standing. Q: Now would you push the microphone aside and step down to the aerial photograph and identify that general area, just the general area from which the sounds came. A: In my opinion, the sounds of the shots sounded as if they had come from directly behind me (indicating). I was standing near this light standard here, and I thought the shots were coming from back here, and apparently everybody else did because they all ran in that direction. http://www.jfk-online.com/wnewmanshaw.html Here is the Nix Film - https://youtu.be/r1MsfIYd1iI Look at the shelter around the 5-second mark. A shot is fired from the third window and there is another shot fired from the walkway behind Mr. Zapruder and Ms. Sitzman. You can make the video show in slow motion, you will see it better. Click the gear, then speed. Select .25 as the speed. It is hard for some of you to grasp, but there is film evidence, photographic evidence of shots fired from the pergola. Mr. Zapruder's interview and testimony and Bill and Gayle Newman's interview and testimony, both stating that the shots came from the pergola. At least two shots came from the pergola where one gunman is seen in the Mary Moorman photo and in the Nix Film.

They spoke about this spook already. If we need know the information we needed when he was alive, he would have no where to hide. He clearly went to a government sanction surveillance of Oswald and he lied about it.

Yes, I would agree with you. O'Donnell was an ally of the Kennedy's. His behavior in the motorcade is odd.

That keeps ducking up and down on the follow-up car before the assassination? Who is this agent? @Vince Palamara

IMO the diagram marked on the night of the autopsy fits better with a "slightly below the EOP". Have you noticed how there is no gaping hole in the skull

No, those are from third sources. Listen to the audio in the video. I personally have a hard time believing anything documentation from the era. Even though those doctors signed reports, it does not mean that is what they said. Again, listen to the audio, look at the photographic evidence, make your own interpretations. The assassination of JFK was a coup d'etat by elements of the U.S. government and you are reading the very documents that the conspirators created specifically for you to read.

Micah, I prefer to listen and read information from the horse's mouth, not from third parties and opinions.

This document is interesting, Orest Pena states that FBI agent Warren de Brueys knew Oswald very well. Mr. Pena was a bar owner at the time in N.O. and an FBI informant. Mr. Pena also states that Mr. de Brueys followed Oswald to Dallas. Mr. de Brueys denies that he ever laid eyes on Oswald and that he never followed Oswald or went to Dallas before the assassination of JFK. He states that he was assigned to Dallas after the assassination to help. He does state that he had heard of him because of his arrest in N.O. But Oops! After the document release, there is a document that states FBI agent Warren de Brueys was sent to Dallas on a special assignment on October 25, 1963. FYI - Oswald moved to Dallas on October 3, 1963. https://www.archives.gov/files/research/jfk/releases/docid-32176315.pdf If Mr. de Brueys was alive today, he would be the talk of the town in Mandeville, LA and he would have some explaining to do.

Was Dr. Humes lying when he said exactly that the bullet entered below and to the right of the EOP? Have you heard the video I posted here? Dr. Finck was there and he never contradicted Dr. Humes. Listen in starting at the 17 minute mark of the video.

Hi Rick, I would not think so. I am of the opinion that JFK was hit from the back below and to the right of the occipital protuberance. If you feel the back of your head, you will feel a bump. Now go about a centimeter lower and to the right. Imagine any type of bullet striking you there from the sixth floor of a building on a downward angle. That bullet hit JFK before the head shot that caused all that damage. The X-ray shows that the rear entry was that low. Dr. Humes testified that the shot entered that low. No way that bullet exited the top of his skull. The bullet that caused the damage to JFK's skull came from the Pergola, right behind where Mr. Zapruder and Ms. Sitzman were. I would agree with you that bullet was a frangible round.

Then that is not what Dr. Humes described without hesitation. He described a the point of entry was located below the occipital protuberance and to the right and furthermore, since there is a parietal foramen to the left and to the right of the sagittal suture and above the lambdoidal suture, there is no indication of the sagittal or lambdoidal suture shown in the photograph. The occipital protuberance would be directly below the sagittal suture and the protuberance would be centered with the suture. Also, let's bring up two more undeniable facts: 1. The dynamics of a full metal jacket bullet in a downward angle entering the skull below and to the right of the occipital protuberance would not magically change direction and exit on the top of the skull. 2. The JFK's X-rays show no damage to the parietal or occipital area of the skull. There does however seem to be a coronal suture, that would align in parallel to the scalp folder over the face of the president. Are you suggesting the the JFK x-ray of his skull is fake, yet the autopsy photographs are real?

Micah, So if the scalp is dissected to the left as you content, and using the (not so) parietal foramen as a point of orientation, this means that his hair would have been shaved off because the lower left portion of the photo shows no hair. Furthermore, the hair shown in the top of the photo would be significantly longer because that would be the top of the scalp. Dr. Humes stated without hesitation that the point of entry was located below the occipital protuberance and to the right. The entry hole is a oblong hole in the skin and in the skull. I don't know about you, but the occipital protuberance would be clearly seen in this photograph if this was in fact the parietal foramen. Dr. Riley's assumption is not correct.

Micah, If you look at the two images above, in the picture that depicts the top of JFK's head with hair. You can see the temporal bone pushed inward causing an outward bulge to the right temporal area of his skull. In the open skull photograph, you can see the temporal bone sideways in the right temporal area of the skull. The scalp is classically dissected with the front covering JFK's face, not dissected sideways as you contend. Also, all of the autopsy photographs that day are taken in a landscape orientation. You want the reader to view this photograph in a portrait orientation and to have an exception to all the other photographs taken that day. Furthermore, have you heard the audio of Dr. Humes and the other doctors? They have a hard time understanding these images and recollecting the actual autopsy, understandably because they got interviewed fifteen years after the fact.

Hi Robin, Would you consider updating your skull image taking into account these attached images?

You can listen to what the doctors are saying about the point of entry of the bullet starting at the 17-minute mark.

At the 11 minute mark of this video, Dr. Humes is heard saying that he does not know or remember if the brain was taken out while he was watching this autopsy photograph. What is interesting, the doctors can't make out these pictures.

I can see the Harper fragment fit right into the parietal area of the wound on the top of JFK's skull. There is no beveled exit near the coronal suture, did you see the outline of the photo that I created? I think the Harper fragment fits perfectly there. There does seem to be a bone depression near the sagittal suture next to the ruler. Do you see the right temporal bone with the bottom area pushed inside the skull almost 90 degrees? That is where the bullet entered the skull from the shooter at the pergola.

I think we can see where the Harper fragment fits with this image. https://drive.google.com/open?id=1YZZcaZ_2DDSZzrVB2BrgKTUCoRqZcet1

Sorry, my mistake. I meant to break into a thousand pieces.

This photo shows the anterior of JFK with the flap of the scalp over his face. The right temporal bone is separated from the skull and is almost perpendicular to the frontal bone. You can even see the thickness of the temporal bone. The bullet from the gunman in the pergola hit that bone and broke into a thousand pieces. What photograph are they referencing here? The left side of JFK's brain is shown in this photograph. Pierre Fink is quoting Dr. Humes. Just because he said it, it isn't so. Did anyone ask Dr. Humes how he removed the brain and when this photograph was taken? The HSCA was 15 years after the assassination. Do you really expect these doctors to be spot on? The photographic evidence shows otherwise. I see that this has been discussed in another thread.

I guess you don't see it and I suppose you will never ever see it. The scalp has was cut by the physician from the left ear to the right ear and over the forehead. What you see in this picture is the front side of JFK's skull with the flap covering his face. You can make the right eye in this photo. The physician's finger is shown on the right top edge of the ruler and is touching the top of the skull and the brain.

I see it just as in the picture that I cropped. The left side of JFK's brain is stopping the ruler. The physician's finger is touching the brain and top of the skull. We really need a better photograph.

Micah, What I see is the left side of the JFK's brain in tack in the left hemisphere of the skull. I see a small hole in the right rear area of the skull. That is an entry hole. You can see the thickness of the top side of the skull. I can make out the corpus callosum tissue that connects both hemispheres of the brain. If you look due left of the right eye area, you can see a piece of his ear. We need a better image to examine the rear area of the skull. Does anyone have a high def image? Is this image at the National Archive?

This is my interpretation of this autopsy photo of JFK. I think I can make out his eye where the 'RIGHT EYE AREA' is located. https://drive.google.com/open?id=1YZZcaZ_2DDSZzrVB2BrgKTUCoRqZcet1

I can't find this video. Hope this helps.