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  1. Police and Sheriff testimony in the Warren Commission Part 5: Dallas County Sheriff Bill Decker Sheriff Bill Decker, age 66: 14 years experience as sheriff of Dallas County; with previous experience as a deputy and constable since 1924 Testifies primary job is jailer of those serving sentences or those awaiting trial unable to post bond Oddly admits to losing 5 prisoners a few days ago due to staff incompetence Oswald was such a "hot piece of merchandise" that the DPD wanted to transfer him themselves versus the usual custom that the Sheriff's Department handles the transfer "this thing," the assassination, takes places conveniently across the street from Decker's office, meaning most witnesses are just walked over to give a statement, according to Decker Decker says "my officers" located the gun and ammunition in the TSBD Suggests Fritz arrived after gun and ammunition found - is this consistent with Boone, Mooney, and Weitzman? Decker is quickly allowed to direct the narrative away from Dealey Plaza and discuss the transfer of Oswald Multiple discussions between Decker and DPD Capt Fritz take place; Fritz is making all the decisions about the transfer Relates an odd incident where international press were briefly locked in a room, which caused them to panic Asks Warren Commission if and when they want to interview Ruby Insists it's no problem getting a court order to move Ruby Admits FBI agent Newsom warned the sheriff's department that Oswald was going to get killed Testimony ends with discussion of previously signed affidavits and other records already submitted to the WC CONCERNS: The US president has been shot and the county sheriff is not asked about this crime. Apart from investigative duties; Decker is an assassination witness. Why is he not asked where the shots came from and other details he remembered in Dealey Plaza? Dallas County Sheriff Bill Decker is not questioned for further details around his activity at Parkland Hospital, nor the activities of his department on 22 November 1963 at the Texas Theater and Ruth Paine's house. What orders did Sheriff Bill Decker give his staff at the time of the assassination? At the time of Oswald's pursuit? What are the details surrounding sheriff department discovery of the weapon and shell casings? This witness was the least examined of any so far; he is allowed to simply tell his story and is asked only a few details about what arrangements were made for transferring Ruby. The death of Kennedy is completely ignored.
  2. Ok, Paul, I know you're wanting to move on from my Roy Truly discussion....anyway...I can't find much evidence in Buddy Walther's testimony that matches up in detail with these well known photos by Jim Murray and William Allen. Dallas County Sheriff's Deputy Buddy Walthers has the black hat and a cigarette in his mouth - standing in the grassy area between Elm and Main street. IIRC, Walthers admits to being there, but doesn't say much about the activity and people shown in these photos, although this activity is I presume what Liebeler is asking about when Walthers denies picking up a bullet. note time on Hertz sign
  3. The story of how Truly determines Oswald is missing, why he fixates on Oswald, and how the DPD acquire Ruth Paine's address leaves some room for doubt, IMO. You don't have to believe Truly was in on the assassination conspiracy to wonder if he nevertheless was less than sincere in explaining why Oswald was singled out and why he helped the DPD explain where they found Paine's address. Truly cannot explain why he decides Oswald is missing; he further suggests he cannot correctly describe Oswald (so how would he know he was missing???). Truly's helpful initiation of Oswald into an object of suspicion fits nicely with the overall story, as soon after Oswald's name is mentioned, the DPD narrative says Fritz hears of Tippit's shooting. The progressive story of how Oswald is captured proceeds in neat formulaic style, A + B + C = D. Truly provides point A, the transformation of Oswald from mere bystander into suspect. All this is a point of concern, it's not necessarily evidence of collusion or deception. ... 1. 22NOV63 DPD case report filed by Capt. Fritz notes defendant was identified by Fritz in the TSBD: 2. Conspiratorial or not, Truly is the critical node ensuring Oswald is a suspect right away. From WC staff memo 2 March 1964: 3. WC Direct testimony of Truly: <<<<===Truly cannot give an answer. ... 4. TSBD superintendant Truly is not a JFK fan: From the Dealey Plaza Echo, Volume 11, No. 2, July 2007. .....citing William Manchester's The Death of a President (1967), p. 162. 5. Oswald's application to the TSBD:
  4. Here's where we can see that the DPD realized they needed an explanation for how they managed to find Ruth Paine's address. The first version of this DPD memo states TSBD manager Truly proactively told DPD Captain Fritz that Oswald was a missing employee of the TSBD. The second version of the memo states that Truly also provided Fritz with Ruth Paine's address. DPD memo version 1 - Truly provides Fritz with Oswald's name only: DPD memo version 2 - Truly provides Fritz with Oswald's name and Ruth Paine's address: https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth337811/m1/3/?q=walthers https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth340592/m1/5/?q=walthers
  5. Who discovered the rifle in the sixth floor of the TSBD? Dallas County Deputy Sheriff Boone says he did. An undated, unsigned rough draft report found in DPD archives says it was Constable Seymour Weitzman. https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=39&search=eugene_boone#relPageId=301&tab=page https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth337811/m1/3/?q=walthers
  6. Here is Buddy Walthers' testimony to the Warren Commission where he says he found the blanket, complete with rifle indentation. The second document is a DPD memo titled "G.F. Rose - R.S. Stovall - J.P. Adamcik Report on Investigation of the President's Murder." Walthers says he found the blanket at Ruth Paine's house along with a barrel of pro-Castro leaflets and 6-7 file cabinets. The DPD report says Marina directed them to the garage and pointed out the blanket, but does not mention Walthers. v. https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=41&search=testimony_walthers#relPageId=558&tab=page https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth337959/m1/3/?q=walthers
  7. Police and Sheriff testimony in the Warren Commission Part 4: Dallas County Sheriff's Deputy Buddy Walthers EDDY RAYMOND WALTHERS aka “Buddy Walthers” DCSD Deputy Buddy Walthers: 35, Dallas County deputy sheriff for 9 years. On 22 November he was watching the motorcade with [Dallas County Sheriff’s wife] Mrs. Decker on Main Street at the sheriff’s office. Like officers Boone, Mooney, and Weitzman, Walthers immediately runs across Dealey Plaza and jumps the retaining wall after he hears 3 shots. He says there are “a lot of people just rummaging” around by the train tracks and parking lot. Walthers then says he went to the grassy area between Elm and Main looking in the grass for evidence of shots fired or whether “they might be blanks or something.” (!)(???) He finds a man and parked car on Main St headed east, partially under the triple overpass. “The man” confronts Walthers asking if he, Walthers, is looking for bullet damage, to which Walthers replies yes. “The man” says he was struck by something on his cheek. Walthers says he finds a place on the curb on Main street where a bullet struck. Warren Commision attorny Liebeler announces “the man” with the cheek wound is Jim Tague. Walthers says he is able to determine by the bullet scar on the curb that the shot was fired from the TSBD or the building just east of the TSBD. He says all other deputies are running in cricles at this point, and that he runs into deputy Allan Sweatt. Walthers explains that deputies immediately started surrounding the TSBD. Then, Walthers says he started gathering up witnesses and taking them to the sheriff’s office to give statements. Next, Walthers hears an officer is shot in Oak Cliff but cannot remember how he hears about this. He grabs a couple more deputies to proceed to Oak Cliff, concerned, he says, that all the manpower is concentrated in Dealey Plaza leaving Oak Cliff crime scene undermanned. Walthers hears a commercial radio station say first that JFK was shot and next that he was dead – confirming what Walthers says he did not know for sure prior to being in Oak Cliff.. “Immediately after that” Walthers heard on the police radio that a suspect in officer Tippit’s shooting was hiding in the library. Police then converge on the library. This is a mistake. Walthers gets back in his car and is immediately called to the Texas Theater. Walthers arrives at the Texas Theater with a sawed off shotgun and asks the manager to turn on the house lights. He goes into the balcony, but Walthers says no one is there. He sees confusion below on the main level and joins in the fracas, noticing “two hands wrapped around a pistol,” further admitting “it was pretty much of a mess to tell what was really happening.” Oswald is subdued and detained. Upon returning to his car, Walthers says there are a lot of people congregating around the theatre as sepctators. The crowd is angry and says, “let us have him,” according to Walthers, who has to use his shotgun as a “battering ram” to get back to his own car. Walthers loses the two officers who went with him to the Texas Theater, and drives back to the sheriff’s office. Back at the station, Sheriff Decker hands deputy Buddy Walthers a piece of paper containing Ruth Paine’s address in Irving, “where," Walthers says, "this Oswald had been staying with Mrs. Paine.” 2515 West 5th St. Walthers drives to the Paine house with sheriff’s deputy Harry Weatherford, where they meet DPD officers Adamcik and Rose (see above in the thread for Adamcik’s testimony). Walthers says that Ruth Paine invites them in with “Come on in, we’ve been expecting you.” Walthers goes to the garage and finds a big barrel with leaflets that say “Freedom for Cuba.” He also finds a grey blanket which he says shows the imprint of a gun. Attorney Liebeler is suspicious of this imprint claim and Walthers insists he can tell the blanket roll wrapped a rifle. Walthers quickly moves from the gun impression on the blanket to the discovery of 6 or 7 file cabinets. These and pictures were put in the trunk of the car. >>>Marina provides Walthers with a phone number to reach Oswald in Oak Cliff, Walthers says. Walthers calls sheriff Decker, who uses a reverse directory to determine the precise address of Oswald’s boarding house.<<< Michael Paine now shows up at Ruth’s house in Irving, who according to Walthers, says Oswald is a committed communist. Walthers then brings Marina, and the kids, and “everyone” to DPD headquartes, specifically to Captain Fritz’s office for questioning, along with confiscated evidence. Warren Commission attorney Liebeler and Walthers discuss the contents of the fiile cabinets, but Walthers denies knowing the details of their contents. The testimony moves back to Dealey Plaza, and Walthers denies finding a spent bullet that day in Dealey Plaza. Walthers says “it just can’t be” that someone was shooting from the train tracks area. Liebeler seems intent on pinning down Walthers on the point of whether he ever said a shot came from the railroad tracks area. (why?) Liebeler also asks about Walthers ability to identify a fresh bullet mark on the curb and they discuss a picture of the curb scar. Walthers says the “last shot” must have been an “awfully high” miss from the TSBD, flyng over the tops of cars. Liebeler tries to pin down Walthers on how he knows it was the last shot …[but the explanation doesn’t make sense]. The explanation is that it must have been the last shot because otherwise the car would have already been too far up under the triple overpass – [but how does Walthers know the timing of the shots…maybe it was an earlier shot?] Walthers says he hears Oswald at the Texas Theatre say “It’s all over now,” or “Now it’s over now.” He denies knowing whether Oswald tried to fire a gun in the theatre. Walthers concludes his Warren Commission testimony by apologizing for being “a little evasive.” (!) … CONCERNS Dallas county deputy sheriff Buddy Walthers places himself in three important places on 22 November: <1> Dealey Plaza – where his handy geometric calculations applied to the bullet scar on the curb lead everyone to the TSBD, and, <2> the Texas Theater, where his presence seems less important, although this is how he loses his colleagues, and <3> Ruth Paine’s house in Irving. Who else, if anyone, plays a role in both Dealey Plaza, the Texas Theater, and the Paine house? Is the library venue important? Was Oswald originally supposed to be in the library, with perhaps the Texas Theatre as backup? Dealey Plaza is a convenient place for the sheriff’s deputies – they have NO duties for the presidential trip yet are able to walk/run to the 6th floor right away. How does Sheriff Decker get the address of Ruth Paine’s house to hand to deputy Buddy Walthers? The convenient way Oswald's rooming house address is discovered, according to Walthers, is exceptionally helpful in explaining how the police were able to build their case so quickly. Without Marina helpfully volunteering a phone number for the rooming house, sheriff Decker would not be able to do a reverse-lookup and find the location of still more interesting evidence. Does anyone else besides Walther authenticate this story about Marina providing a phone number? When Walthers returns from the Texas Theater, we are to believe that nothing else happens at the sheriff’s office besides Walthers getting Paine’s address from Decker? What order does Walthers receive? Boone, Mooney, Weitzman, and Walthers give precisely the same explanation for their actions during and immediately after they see the motorcade pass by and hear shots. They all 4 say they ran over to the railroad tracks and hopped a retaining wall to get there. Why does Walthers break off his search of the railroad tracks area and instead look for bullet evidence in the grass between Elm and Main? Why does he suggest “they might be blanks or something?” Walthers ballistics expertise in tracing the curb damage to the TSBD is … convenient. This bit of ballistics work on the part of Walthers helps explain -weakly- how the TSBD became the center of police efforts. Walthers testimony places the curb scar and Jim Teague injury as the last shot without offering evidence as to the timing or sequence of all the shots. How does he know? Walthers stops just short of saying he himself orders the TSBD surrounded. He strongly implies, however, that his discovery of the bullet scar on the curb is the evidence justifying quick police attention to the TSBD. Walthers says he finds the blanket in the Paine garage with an imprint of a gun. No one else so far mentions a gun imprint. [sidenote: attorney Liebeler IMO is alone among Warren Commission lawyers in determining and making public that General Edwin Walker has something to hide. He does this by eliciting perjured direct testimony from Walker regarding the explanation for how a German newspaper pinpoints Oswald as Walker's attempted assassin before the police or FBI do. Here in Walthers' testimony, Liebeler shows a more healthy suspicion of police claims than most any other staff member taking depositions. I personally have a hunch Liebeler or his papers or his family potentially hold undiscovered clues in the assassination: http://www.edwardjayepstein.com/liebeler.htm ] Walthers testimony quickly puts on the record 1. Pro-Castro leaflets, 2. Evidence of a rifle wrapped in a blanket, 3. 6 or 7 file cabinets, 4. An explanation of how they found the address to Oswald’s boarding house in Oak Cliff. 5. Michael Paine’s allegation that Oswald is a true communist. Walthers is a casemaker against Oswald. Buddy Walthers is kind of the superman that day in terms of Dallas law enforcement officers. He leaps miraculously from Dealey Plaza, to the Texas Theater, and then on to Ruth Paine's house. He alone pinpoints the TSBD for the benefit of other police officers, using his forensic evidence skills in determining the bullet that hit Tague came from the TSBD. He alone enables police to find Oswald's rooming house in Oak Cliff, by receiving the rooming house phone number from Marina at the Paine house. Walthers sees a gun impression in a blanket found in Ruth's garage, an impression mentioned nowhere else. Walthers provides evidence that Oswald is a known communist and known Castro supporter. Finally, Walthers assures the Warren Commission that there is no way shots could have come from the railroad tracks area. Officers Boone, Mooney, and Weitzman helped out in whatever happened at the TSBD after Kennedy was shot, according to their testimony. But Buddy Walthers was everywhere important that day in Dallas and facilitated key points in proving the logical development of the case against Oswald. Walthers is everywhere, he's the go-to guy when explanations are needed for police behavior.
  8. Boone's testimony is perfunctory at the hands of WC attorney Ball, although Senator Cooper does make a few brief moments of lucid fact-finding interjections. By itself, Boone's words might be of little interest. However, Boone's testimony becomes a set of plot points and alleged facts which we might establish as a baseline for use in comparing other testimonies. I might make a table of essential plot points to compare across the testimonies.
  9. Police and Sheriff testimony in the Warren Commission Part 3: Constable Seymour Weitzman Seymour Weitzman: Dallas County deputy constable for 3 years; engineering college graduate, 15 years previous experience supervising retail dress stores. On 22 November he is standing at the corner of Main and Houston with deputy constable Bill Hutton. Like Boone and Mooney, Weitzman runs to and jumps the retaining wall towards the railroad track area because “somebody said” that’s where the shots came from. Claims he burned his hands climbing the wall because he grabbed steampipes (!)(???). Notices “numerous kinds of footprints that did not make sense.” Claims other officers and Secret Service were in the train tracks area. “Somebody” hands him a piece of the president's skull found in the street. The narrative suddenly jumps to the TSBD with no explanation as to why he went there or who told him to go there. Weitzman says he searches floor to floor starting from the first floor. When he arrives at the 6th floor, a sheriff’s deputy was “in charge” and “wanted the floor torn apart.” “He wanted the gun and it was there somewhere.” Weitzman says he and deputy Boone discovered “the” gun and that it well hidden, so well hidden that it was probably undiscovered by the first “eight or nine” officers who looked in the same area. A “man-tight” barricade was made to protect the gun until the crime lab was to come for it, Weitzman says. He does not see Captain Fritz handle the gun. Suddenly, the narrative says Weitzman returned to his office.. Weitzman is shown pictures by WC attorney Ball and indicates where he found the gun. There are two off the record discussions. THEN, Weitzman admits he called the rifle a 7.65 Mauser, because “that’s what it looked like.” But Boone says Fritz made this pronouncement. He says he is familiar with Mausers as he used to sell guns. Ball leads the witness by saying “the time the rifle was found at 1:22pm, is that correct.” Although previously in this deposition Weitzman says he did not see Fritz handle or remove anything from the rifle, he now says he saw Fritz take charge of the rifle and eject one life round from the chamber. Weitzman says he thought the scope was a 2.5 Weaver. The official explanation was that it turned out to be a Japanese scope, both Weitzman and Ball agree. WC Attorney Ball now suddenly leads the witness back to the rail yard scene and prompts him to admit he asked a yardman a question. Weitzman says the yardman says he saw someone throw something in the bush. Weitzman now claims he went over to the bush and found the piece of JFK’s skull. (earlier he said the skull was brought to him, after being found in the street.) The yardman says the “noise”came from the retaining wall. === - === - === - === - === - === - Impressions from Seymour Weitzman's testimony: Weitzman is not asked nor does he explain why he goes to the TSBD or who ordered him there. Neither do Sheriff's deputies Boone or Mooney. This is the most leading and directed testimony so far - WC attorney Ball is practically putting details into Weitzman's mouth, with which Weitzman agrees. (i.e., "the time was 1:22, correct?") The 1:22 time was given earlier in testimony by Deputy Boone. Weitzman and Ball go off the record and Weitzman contradicts his own testimony at least twice. Initially he says "someone" brought him a piece of Kennedy's skull found in the street; later he says he himself found the skull piece in the bushes at the direction of a railroad employee. Initially he says he didn't see Captain Fritz around nor remove anything from the found rifle; but later he says Captain Fritz handled the rifle and ejected a live bullet (!!!). In contradiction to Boone, Weitzman claims he, Weitzman, identified the rifle as a Mauser first, not Captain Fritz as Boone maintains. He also takes credit for misidentifying the scope, although he insists he has experience selling guns and implies he is able to recognize the different makes and models. There are now 2 versions of who and why the rifle was identified as a Mauser. The business of the skull fragment and finding the rifle are so confused and contradictory; obviously WC attorney Ball wants this witness done as soon as possible. The testimony is prematurely ended when the two contradictions are blatantly obvious. This is a loose cannon witness. What did Weitzman do with the skull fragment after either someone handed it to him or he found it in the bushes? He says he gave it to a secret service agent - is this authenticated by other testimony? Who knows???? Claims the 6th floor was saturated with sheriff's deputies - but this contradicts Mooney who says he was alone. This also contradicts Deputy Boone who says the DPD was in charge. There are now 3 versions of the leadership on the 6th floor and how many people were there. Weitzman claims a "man-tight" cordon of protection was made around the found gun, but the other deputies simply say Fritz came and picked it up. Beyond that, there is no testimony so far from anyone about what then happens to the gun and its chain of custody. Weitzman offers only a few confused and contradictory details - and other details he offers are practically put into his mouth by WC attorney Ball. Glaring unasked questions include: What of the press photographers seen by other deputies in the TSBD? Where is Sheriff Decker, his boss? Who told him to start on the ground floor and start searching? Who exactly was in charge of the 6th floor, the DPD or DCSD? Why was there such attention to the 6th floor before the gun was even found? Did he use elevators or stairs? What did he do the rest of the day and for the rest of the investigation? What did he do with the skull fragment? How did he know those were Secret Service officers he saw around the train track?
  10. Police and Sheriff Testimony in the Warren Commission Part 2: Dallas County Sheriff's Deputy Luke Mooney (continued from previous post) ...Mooney says deputies Vickery, Webster, and McCurley are with him on the 6th floor as he is guarding the crime scene. Mooney is shown Commission Exhibit 508 & 509 (see below) by WC attorney Ball. Mooney confirms that these pictures show how the boxes were arranged. There is some discussion about the crease in the boxes. Exhibit 510 is shown to Mooney (see below) and identifies shell casings he says he found. Mooney volunteers that he assumes this is from the first shot. Mooney says Captain Fritz then scooped up the shell casings, which were too far away for Mooney to identify by size. There is further discussion around the shell casings and arrangement of the boxes as Mooney says there seems to be slight differences between his memory and what is indicated in the pictures. Exhibit 513 (see below) is shown to Deputy Mooney and the discussion suddenly changes to the location of a found chicken bone. Mooney says he saw a chicken bone and a paper bag, on top of a box. Mooney saw no Dr Pepper or any other soft drink container. Exhibit 484 is shown to Deputy Mooney. He says the 6th floor was "covered with officers," searching for "the" weapon, and that we was on the 6th floor for not longer than 20 minutes. Mooney says he was 15 steps at most away from Deputy Boone when Boone announced he had found the gun. Mooney denies handling the shell casings or the chicken bones. Senator Cooper asks Mooney if there was any odor in the area; Mooney at first replies "no," but then adds that there "could have been" a powder smell on 6th floor. Exhibit 514 is shown to Mooney, followed by 515. Mooney confirms the pictures show how the gun was found. Deputy Mooney says there were a number of unidentified photographers on the 6th floor, who he assumed were the press. Mooney says the gun was found "clear across" the building from the shells. The shells were in the southeast corner, the gun in the northwest corner. ======================================================================================== My concerns from the testimony of Deputy Luke Mooney: How does Mooney know to go to the 6th floor? Where is the Dr Pepper? Who are the photographers on the 6th floor and where are their pictures? Did Mooney in effect leave a TSBD exit unguarded by putting an unknown civilian in charge of the iron gates? Are the paper sack and chicken bones assigned by Mooney to the SE corner, aka the "assassin's lair," ? Is Mooney's story consistent with Boone's? CE 484 CE515 CE514 CE513 CE510 CE 509 CE 508
  11. Police and Sheriff Testimony in the Warren Commission Part 2: Dallas County Sheriff's Deputy Luke Mooney LUKE MOONEY: 40, five years as a Dallas County Sheriff's deputy; 10 years experience working for a car dealer as a shop dispatcher, 4 years in the army during WW2. Primary duties are serving and enforcing civil writs from civil court cases. Had no assigned duty on 22 November, 1963. Watched the motorcade in front of the courthouse at 505 Main St. Mooney says deputy Boone [see above], deputy Hiram Ingram and deputy Ralph Waters were all standing near him. Upon hearing shots, Mooney says he immediately ran at full speed over the concrete retaining wall into the area of the railroad tracks. He thought the shots came from the direction of the railroad tracks [deputy Boone goes there as well for the same reason]. Mooney testifies he found "nothing" there, except one car, occupied by an African American porter. He says there were lots of officers and spectators around. Deputy Mooney says he was in the area of the railroad tracks a "few seconds" when another officer by word of mouth relayed orders from Dallas County Sheriff Bill Decker. The orders were to "cover" the TSBD. At this point Deputy Ralph Waters disappears and is not seen until later by Mooney. Deputies Vickery and Webster join the narrative and these three deputies try to block the iron gates on the ground floor of the TSBD. He put an unknown civilian in charge of guarding these gates assuming a uniformed officer would take over later. Mooney then enters the TSBD via the back door. He decides to use the freight elevator (for unknown reasons? and where's he going?) as deputies Vickery and Webster take the stairs. Two unknown females join Mooney on the elevator and everyone gets off on the 2nd floor. Mooney then proceeds via stairs to the 6th floor. He passes many deputies coming down the stairs saying "and how come I got off on the sixth floor, I don't know yet." WC lawyer Ball asks why Mooney went to the 6th floor. Mooney denies knowing why he went to the 6th floor. Deputy Mooney begins "crisscrossing" the floor but says he sees no one else. He decides to go to the 7th floor and meets up with deputies Webster and Vickery. Mooney says deputies Boone and Walters had now "gone after the lights," because it was dark on the 7th floor. An unknown press photographer is roaming around with a camera on these floors. For again unknown reasons, Mooney now goes to the 6th floor, and encounters no one, he says. By wondering around with no apparent direction, Deputy Mooney says he found expended shell casings adjacent to boxes stacked up in a way to facilitate shooting a rifle. Mooney offers that there is a crease in one of the boxes which would have been where the "rifle could have lain" at the same "angle that the shots were fired from." Mooney says he then leaned out the window, "the same window from which the shots were fired," and saw DPD Captain Fritz chatting with Dallas Sherriff Bill Decker on the ground below. He tells them he's discovered the crime scene and requests "crime lab officers." It is now 1:00, according to Mooney, and he is standing guard in the southeast corner of the TSBD's 6th floor, standing guard over the shell casings and creased box he discovered..... Continued below Again, a sheriff deputy shows up on the 6th floor but doesn't know why.
  12. Ok, Paul, I've posted my impressions of Sheriff's Deputy Eugene Boone's testimony to the WC above. What do you think? A procedural concern I have is the fact that he has a very short testimony and was allowed to give his narrative without anything like a challenge or cross examination. One of the great benefits to the conspirators of eliminating Oswald was that the adversarial system of criminal proceedings in our country was rendered moot. There was no attorney and no other interested party around to challenge witnesses; to make them pin down details; to point out ambiguities, and so forth. Normally, depositions are conducted with OPPOSING counsels present to prevent witnesses from just advertising an unchallenged comfortable version of events. What we have isn't much more than asking Boone to type up a story. When my chain of command asks me for a report, I don't emphasize my own mistakes, shortcomings, or flat out incompetence, do you? So, Boone told his story as we all would - in a way that makes us look good. He was not made to answer for anything that in retrospect seems questionable because this was an effort in just letting a witness speak unchallenged. As for the SUBSTANCE of his testimony: the overriding question I have is who was directing his actions and why he did what he did. He says he initially followed the crowd's assumption that there was firing from the grassy knoll, which caused him to surmount the retaining wall and do who-knows-what in the train track area. Next he is in the TSBD and 6th Floor but who knows why he went there and who told him to go there? The story around finding the gun, identifying the gun, and Captain Fritz is just very neat and undetailed. There's all kinds of holes here, but, way too late now to challenge him. I'll look at some more sheriff department testimony today and post impressions. Thoughts on Boone's testimony? Jason
  13. Hi Paul, Thanks for your reply . Sure, we can look at the officers and deputies present Dealey Plaza first. Like prosecutors and defendants in the trial , those who have adopted a CT want to present the strongest evidence first, while those who are against the CT want a totally different order to the evidence presented. The order and packaging of the evidence makes a big impact, so my natural approach is to choose some arbitrary or neutral order in looking at evidence. However, since your idea about looking at peace officers present in Dealey Plaza does not seem to favor or disfavor any particular CT, that's fine . Jason
  14. Paul, the work below is really for my own notes but I'll just post it here. This is my review of DPD officer Adamcik, DPD jailer Ables, and Dallas Sheriff's deputy Boone. I'm only concentrating on their WC testimony for now; later I/we can track done anything else they've said or other connections they have. Jailer Don Ables provides nothing useful as he was only a mannequin used in the lineup with Oswald. For the conspiracy-minded, there are several minor points to look at involving Boone and Adamcik, but I'll stick to just three points for now. Deputy Boone says he had no assignment whatsoever on 22 November. Is this plausible? With the president in town? He says he was just milling around Dealey Plaza. He says everyone thought shots came from the triple overpass, so he ran up there immediately --- and the area behind the picket fence, by the train tracks, adjacent to the triple overpass, was flooded with DPD officers. He claims not to know who sent him or why he was sent to the TSBD, and furthermore doesn't know who sent him or why he was sent specifically to the 6th floor. He says he discovered "the" rifle. Boone is a little fishy to me. He was obviously sent to the 6th floor, but can't explain who sent him or why. DPD detective John Adamcik has a longer testimony because he is tasked with gathering evidence from the Paine's on 22 November. This is a 2-3 day process. Unclear is how they got Ruth Paine's address and why an empty blanket rolled up in the garage attracts so much attention. Why focus on a blanket roll? Adamcik's story of how the famous backyard photo was found is murky murky murky! Ruth was away when it was found, and no one from the Paine house saw the photo until it was shown back at police headquarters - according to Adamcik. Adamcik may or may not be fishy because he seems to be the junior officer of ~4 tasked to the Irving part of the investigation. All the officers are YOUNG and not exactly well educated. DPD isn't recruiting from Ivy League schools. Possibly also questionable is the officers who give key testimony but claim they had no assignment for the president's visit and seem to be generally unoccupied with much of anything. Police and Sheriff testimony in the Warren Commission Don R. Ables: Mid-20s; civilian employee of the DPD as a jail clerk with 7 months experience. HS dropout; 7 years in the Navy. Only obvious relevance is his role as a participant in the 22 November identity lineups with Oswald, presumably in front of witnesses. Ables testifies that using jail employees is normal and that he was dressed in unremarkable dark slacks, grey sweater, white shirt. John P Adamcik: 26, claims he got as far as high school; then went to the DPD after a hardship discharge from the Marine Corps. He is now a detective at a young age. Off duty at time of assassination, with a scheduled shift starting at 3. Comes in early to work when he hears of the shooting, arriving at about 2. Was in the DPD office less than hour before Oswald brought on. Tasked by Captain Fritz with driving out to the Paine residence in Irving. Denies any knowledge of how they obtained the Paine’s address of 2515 West Fifth Street, Irving. After this question officer Adamcik asks to use his official report while giving testimony. Drives with DPD Detectives Rose and Stovall, meets sheriff’s deputies in front of house. Ruth Paine is friendly and invites them in; giving permission to look around. Meets Marina. Claims Ruth Paine directed detectives Rose and Stovall to the garage. DPD HQ instructs officers to bring in Ruth and Marina for questioning, but there is concern over what should happen with the children. Michael Paine shows up while the police are at Ruth’s house. [Ruth’s?] children are given to the neighbors, but Marina brings her children with her to the police station. Michael Paine is asked why he shows up and according to DPD officer Adamcik, Paine says he heard about the shooting at the TSBD and assumed Oswald would be a prime suspect. A rolled up blanked is found in the garage by Rose and Stovall. Linnie Mae Randle drives up and informs Adamcik that Oswald rode in to work today with her brother, Buell Frazier. Randle also tells Adamcik that she saw Oswald walking across the lawn that morning with a long parcel wrapped in “something.” Randle says it is unusual for Oswald to stay Thursday nights in Irving. Marina and Ruth are brought to DPD headquarters for questioning. They try to find an interpreter for Marina. Marina allegedly says the rifle she is shown looks like Oswald’s rifle. Adamcik says Captain Fritz and Detective Senkel are in charge of the questioning. Marguerite Oswald is also there for questioning. Robert Oswald was there as well, for questioning. Officer Adamcik says he was briefly tasked with talking to Oswald while Captain Fritz was away, but has no record of the conversation. Adamcik remembers that Oswald said he did not drive and spent “about 2 years” in Russia. Adamcik was sent home about 2am (now early on 23 November), and came back in later that day about 10am. Captain Fritz tasked him, and detectives Rose, Moore, and Stovall to go back to the Paine house with a search warrant. Ruth Paine is again fully cooperative. Adamcik says camera equipment or film projector were seized the previous day. Detective McCabe, of the Irving PD, joins them on the 23rd for the 2nd search of the Paine house. Adamcik says he was in the garage when “someone else” found a photo of Oswald with a rifle. It was allegedly said that this photo shows a gun that looks like the rifle used in the assassination. The photo was found without anyone but police officers at the home as everyone else had gone grocery shopping. The photo was NOT shown to Marina or the Paines at the house, but rather at DPD headquarters. On a subsequent day they went back to get an affidavit from Michael Paine, who had not signed one previously. Adamcik says Paine remembers handling a rolled blanket several times, thinking it was tenting poles. Paine also says he doubts Oswald was the assassin, although he (Paine) assumed Oswald would be a top suspect. Eugene Boone: 26, Dallas sheriff’s deputy with 1.5 years experience; HS Education, no special assignment 22 November, just hanging out watching the parade with sheriff department staff. Boone says most witnesses thought bullets from triple underpass. Deputy Boone and lots of Dallas city cops went over the fence and behind a concrete mixing area to search around the railroad tracks. He then went to the TSBD's 6th floor. Boone could not explain who told him to go to TSBD and then who told him to go to 6th floor. Deputy Boone says he started searching from the east end of the 6th floor with the help of a flashlight. Boone then says near the west wall, 3 feet from the stairwell, he finds “the” rifle “stuffed down between two rows of boxes with another box or so pulled over the top of it.” Captain Fritz was already on the floor, so Fritz was called over when Boone discovered a rifle. Boone confirms WC Exhibits (photos) 514, 515, 516, & 517 show how the gun and boxes were found. Marks arrows on 515 & 516 (see below) indicating where he found “the” rifle. Boone says the rifle is found at 1:22 and there is a filming news crew present. The DPD officers are said to be in charge of the scene, specifically Captain Fritz. Boone confirms again the location of the rifle in the Northwest corner using a floor plan, CE 483, to illustrate his point. WC member Senator Cooper re-directs testimony to the moment Deputy Boone jumped over the retaining wall. Boone says there were people to the south on the Triple underpass, who he says were watching the motorcade and that a DPD officer went that direction. WC attorney Ball asks Boone why he initially called the rifle a 7.65 Mauser, but Boone says it was actually DPD Captain Fritz who called it a Mauser. Captain Fritz is the central controller of all the cops, it seems to me, giving very specific instructions. * * * Warren Commission Exhibit 483 - a floorplan of the TSBD 6th floor, rifle found at 36 Warren Commission Exhibits 517, 516, 515, 514
  15. Hi Roger, I will try to get Treachery in Dallas from the library, thanks. There is a free online copy but even that has to be checked out... I think really we've all forgotten the way things work on a local level. If there's a crime, someone in jail, 3 murders, etc., it's the local police who are doing the operational and back office work for all of it. This has to be a DPD sponsored event, with them as the critical link in making sure the local evidence, witnesses, crime scene, bodies, etc. are all shut down asap. Paul, I like pedantic thoroughness, so I will be compiling a profile of all 91 names on the list. I've read through DPD jailer Don Ables and DPD detective John Adamcik ...and will post shortly about them. In keeping with your idea, I will also look at Sheriff's Deputy Eugene Boone today and discuss his testimony. Jason
  16. Hi Paul, Some years ago the technology consulting firm I worked for won a contract to do statistical analysis on major crime investigations. I was not on the project, but I know the highlights. In almost every major investigation involving dozens of witnesses, suspects, and investigators, the true criminal was a suspect from day one. In most cases, in the first weeks of the investigation, the investigators closest to the case had an initial list of suspects which included the true criminal. However, in most cases it was years before the true criminal was finally determined and arrested. In big cases, you get bogged down in endless leads, theories, and contrary evidence that distracts you from the true criminal who was a top suspect from day one. 1. Gary Ridgway, (The "Green River Killer") was arrested in 1982 as a suspect in the serial killing of 90+ young women. He was at the time quickly released. It wasn't until a massive review of the original evidence that he was finally arrested 20 years later, after dozens more had been killed. They had him right away back in 1982 and it was obvious - he was a guy who liked to pick up women and beat them up, some lived, some didn't. But the investigation got distracted by the media, an overload of tips, and dozens of false theories. 2. Also tragically, Jacob Wetterling was abducted in October, 1989 when he was 11. The true killer, Danny Heinrich, was arrested and DNA tested in December, 1989, but set free. For 25+ years endless speculation, investigations, leads, and media interest protected the true killer as the theories became more and more exotic and conspiratorial. Finally, in 2015, Heinrich was arrested for the same reason he was arrested in 89 - he liked kiddie porn. This time they managed to connect him back to Wetterling, and Heinrich led police to the buried body. They had him almost from day one in 1989, but went way off course as the case drew national attention. 25 years off course. So, for me, the JFK case is likely the same way. The conspirators are probably among those who gave evidence in the WC. We have been off course for 55 years. It really just hit me yesterday as I was watching the assassination YouTube videos. The Dallas Police are the circulatory system of all assassination operations. It's all them. The shooting, the crime scene, Tippit, Oswald's capture, the evidence, the patsy, Ruby, and Oswald's death. It's DPD that makes it all possible. So, sure, let's look at the cops in the WC. Jason ... ... Here's my draft of the police witnesses in the Warren Report. I'm sure others have made a list like this already but I like to do my own research. Hopefully it's a start. source: https://www.archives.gov/research/jfk/warren-commission-report/appendix5.html DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT AND DALLAS SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT WARREN COMMISSION WITNESSES Ables, Don R. D Jail Clerk, Dallas Police Department Vol. VII, p. 239 Adamcik, John P. D Member, Dallas Police Department Vol. VII, p. 202 Archer, Don Ray D Member, Dallas Police Department Vol. XII, p. 395 Arnett, Charles Oliver D Member, Dallas Police Department Vol. XII, p. 128 Baker, Marrion L.A D Member, Dallas Police Department Vol. III, p. 242., Vol. VII, p. 592 Baker, T. L. C Member, Dallas Police Department Vol. IV, p. 248 Barnes, W. E. D Member, Dallas Police Department Vol. VII, p. 270 Batchelor, Charles D Assistant Chief, Dallas Police Department Vol. XII, p. 1; Vol. XV, p. 114 Beaty, Buford Lee D Member, Dallas Police Department Vol. XII, p. 158 Biggio, William S.D Member, Dallas Police Department Vol. XIV, p. 48 Boone, Eugene C Deputy Sheriff, Dallas County Vol. III, p. 291 Boyd, Elmer L. D Member, Dallas Police Department Vol. VII, p. 119 Brewer, E. D. D Member, Dallas Police Department Vol. VI, p. 302 Brian, V. J.C Member, Dallas Police Department Vol. V, p. 47 Brock, Alvin R. D Member, Dallas Police Department Vol. XII, p. 171 Page 485 Brown, C. W. D Member, Dallas Police Department Vol. VII, p. 246 Carroll, Bob K. D Member, Dallas Police Department Vol. VII, p. 17 Clardy, Barnard S. D Member, Dallas Police Department Vol. XII, p. 403 Clark, Richard L. D Member, Dallas Police Department Vol. VII, p. 235 Combest, B. H. D Member, Dallas Police Department Vol. XII, p. 176 Cox, Roland A. D Reserve force, Dallas Police Department Vol. XV, p. 153 Croy, Kenneth Hudson D Reserve force, Dallas Police Department Vol. XII, p. 186 Curry, Jesse Edward ACD Chief, Dallas Police Department Vol. IV, p. 150; Vol. XII, p. 25; Vol. XV, p. 124, 641 Cutchshaw, Wilbur Jay D Member, Dallas Police Department Vol. XII, p. 206 Dean, Patricia Trevore CD Member, Dallas Police Department Vol V, p. 254; Vol. XII, p. 415 Decker, J. E. (Bill) D Sheriff, Dallas County Vol. XII, p. 42 Dhority, C. N. AD Member, Dallas Police Department Vol. VII, pp. 149, 380 Eberhardt, A. M. D Member, Dallas Police Department Vol. XIII, p. 181 Foster, J. W. D Member, Dallas Police Department Vol. VI, p. 248 Frazier, W. B. D Captain, Dallas Police Department Vol. XII, p. 52 Goodson, Clyde Franklin D Member, Dallas Police Department Vol. XV, p. 596 Graves, L. C. D Member, Dallas Police Department Vol. VII, p. 251; Vol. XIII, p. 1 Hanson, Timothy M., Jr. D Member, Dallas Police Department Vol. XV, p. 438 Hargis, Bobby W. D Member, Dallas Police Department Vol. VI, p. 293 Hawkins, Ray D Member, Dallas Police Department Vol. VII, p. 91 Henslee, Gerald D. D Member, Dallas Police Department Vol. VI, p. 325 Hicks, J. B. D Member, Dallas Police Department Vol. VII, p. 286 Hill, Gerald Lynn D Member, Dallas Police Department Vol. VII, p. 43 Holly, Harold B., Jr.D Reserve force, Dallas Police Department Vol. XII, p. 261 Hulse, C. E. D Member, Dallas Police Department Vol. XIII, p. 99 Hutson, Thomas Alexander D Member, Dallas Police Department Vol. VII, p. 26 Johnson, Marvin D Member, Dallas Police Department Vol. VII, p. 100 Jones, O. A. D Captain, Dallas Police Department Vol. XII, p. 58 King, Glen D. D Captain, Dallas Police Department Vol. XV, p. 51 Kriss, Harry M.D Reserve force, Dallas Police Department Vol. XII, p. 266 Lawrence, Perdue W.D Captain, Dallas Police Department Vol. VII, p. 577 Leavelle, James R. D Member, Dallas Police Department Vol. VII, p. 260; Vol. VIII, p. 14 Lowcry, Roy Lee D Member, Dallas Police Department Vol. XII, p. 271 McDonald, M. N. C Member, Dallas Police Department Vol. III, p. 295 McMillon, Thomas Donald D Member, Dallas Police Department Vol. XIII, p. 37 Martin, B. J. D Member, Dallas Police Department Vol. VI, p. 289 Martin, Frank M. D Captain, Dallas Police Department Vol. XII, p. 277 Maxey, Billy Joe D Member, Dallas Police Department Vol. XII, p. 285 Mayo, Logan W. D Reserve force, Dallas Police Department Vol. XII, p. 291 Miller, Louis D. D Member, Dallas Police Department Vol. XII, p. 297 Montgomery, L. D. D Member, Dallas Police Department Vol. VII, p. 96; Vol. XIII, p. 21 Page 493 Mooney, Luke C Deputy Sheriff, Dallas County Vol. III, p. 281 Moore, Henry M. D Member, Dallas Police Department Vol. VII, p. 212 Murphy, Joe E. D Member, Dallas Police Department Vol. VI, p. 256 Newman, William J. D Reserve force, Dallas Police Department Vol. XII, p. 314 Olsen, Harry N. D Former member, Dallas Police Vol. XIV, p. 640 Owens, Calvin Bud D Member, Dallas Police Department Vol. II, p. 78 Patterson, Bobby G. D Member, Dallas Police Department Vol. XII, p. 334 Perry, W. E. D Member, Dallas Police Department Vol. VII, p. 232 Pierce, Rio S. D Lieutenant, Dallas Police Department Vol. VII, p. 76; Vol. XII, p.337 Poe, J. M. D Member, Dallas Police Department Vol. VII, p. 66 Potts, Walter E. D Member, Dallas Police Department Vol. VII, p. 195 Putnam, James A. D Member, Dallas Police Department Vol. VII, p. 74; Vol. XII, p. 341 Revill, Jack CD Lieutenant, Dallas Police Department Vol. V, p. 33; Vol. XII, p. 73 Robertson, Mary Jane D Employee, Dallas Police Department Vol. VII, p. 404 Rose, Guy F. D Member, Dallas Police Department Vol. VII, p. 227 Sims, Richard M. D Member, Dallas Police Department Vol. VII, p. 158 Slack, Willie B. D Member, Dallas Police Department Vol. XII, p. 347 Smart, Vernon S. D Lieutenant, Dallas Police Department Vol. XIII, p. 266 Smith, Edgar Leon, Jr. D Member, Dallas Police Department Vol. VII, p. 565 Smith, Joe Marshall D Member, Dallas Police Department Vol. VII, p. 531 Solomon, James Maurice D Captain, Dallas Police Department Vol. XII, p. 87 Standifer, Roy E. D Member, Dallas Police Department Vol. XV p. 614 Steele, Don Francis D Member, Dallas Police Department Vol. XII, p. 353 Stevenson, M. W. D Deputy Chief, Dallas Police Department Vol. XII, p. 91. Vol. XV, p. 133 Stovall, Richard S.D Member, Dallas Police Department Vol. VII, p. 186 Studebaker, Robert Lee D Member, Dallas Police Department Vol. VII, p. 137 Talbert, Cecil E. D Captain, Dallas Police Department Vol. XII, p. 108. Vol. XV, p. 182 Turner, F. M. D Member, Dallas Police Department Vol. VII, p. 217 Vaughn, Roy Eugene D Member, Dallas Police Department Vol. XII, p. 357 Walker, C. T. D Member, Dallas Police Department Vol. VII, p. 34 Walthers, Eddy Raymond D Deputy sheriff, Dallas County Vol. VII, p. 544 Watson, James C. D Member, Dallas Police Department Vol. XII, p. 372 Westbrook, W. R. D Captain, Dallas Police Department Vol. VII, p. 109 Wiggins, Woodrow D Lieutenant, Dallas Police Department Vol. XII, p. 388 Worley, Gano E. D Reserve Force, Dallas Police Department Vol. XII, p. 378
  17. Paul, The DFW area is ESSENTIAL to this, is it not? I watched a random assortment of JFK assassination videos on YouTube last night. I think we have lost the outrageous audacity of the assassination in all of our books and theories and so forth. For most of us this assassination has always existed. But in actuality this is an incredibly brazen and risky event. It's simply impossible to imagine multiple shooters in a public place today remaining anonymous and able to get away free of punishment. It's now apparent to me that the Dallas Police Department is the critical factor here. Critical I mean in ensuring no one is punished for the murders and critical in hiding the truth. Besides the implausible spectacle of multiple riflemen in outdoor public daylight, some in buildings, not in vehicles...somehow NOT getting caught, there is also: the DPD's bizarre and inexplicable story around Tippit and the captivity of Oswald the ridiculous version of how the crime scene was processed and evidence collected the quick way Oswald was silenced Besides those who actually pulled the trigger, to me these three points made the assassination successful. All three of these points are the work of the Dallas Police Department . I think we should stop obsessing about Oswald and theories for every detail in his convoluted story. We all need to be looking at the Dallas Police Department first and foremost - very intensely. Jason
  18. v. Jim says Oswald enters Russia to sabotage the Paris Summit and Paul says it was something of a research sabbatical in preparation for penning a bestselling book back in the US. Ok. I think? another commonly held view is that Oswald is on a mission from ONI or the CIA to.......work in a Minsk radio factory and collect a Russian wife. I guess. Whatever. So whatever the purpose of Oswald's time in the USSR, he comes back to the US in 1962 and his Soviet period is his main claim to fame until the assassination. I think there's some clues for both of your points of view in the records of a very odd event - Lee Harvey Oswald makes a 1963 speech before Jesuit seminarians in Mobile, Alabama. James Douglass makes the brilliant observation that Oswald's speech is critical of the Soviet system and/or communism, which is at odds with his public persona. Furthermore, says Douglass, Oswald warns against government takeover engineered by military leaders. 1. FBI eyewitness testimony of Oswald's speech: 2. James Douglass writing about Oswald's speech in JFK and the Unspeakable, (Simon and Schuster, 2008), pp. 330-331.
  19. Hi Paul, General Walker's initial explanation of Oswald is that he is a commie, part of the dangerous cell of Dallas commies. This is early 1964 and he makes this claim in one of his radio broadcasts. By the summer of 1964, Walker's story has changed. Now Walker says Oswald is in a CIA plot along with Ruby. Walker basically adopts something of the CIA-did-it conspiracy theory Garrison began which lives on today. Why the change in Walker's public rendition of Oswald from commie to CIA? Jason February 1964 FBI report FBI report of John Henshaw writing in the National Enquirer; May 1964:
  20. Does it seem like General Walker in the 1960s shares the same geographical appeal as Donald Trump today?
  21. Yes, Ruby is stalking Oswald, from what you posted, and he's nervous about admitting it. Is there something else here? Ruby pinpoints Edwin Walker in his jailhouse testimony to liberal Democrat Chief Justice Earl Warren. If there's any plausible reason Ruby would mention General Walker in this way, other than to implicate him in the recent murders, I'd like to hear such reasons. ....{the Warren Commission direct testimony of Jack Ruby and General Edwin Walker}
  22. Hi Joe, I think Assassination enthusiasts are birds of a feather and they are remarkably the same in most measurable ways. In particular, they are mostly men. It seems most men love to fantasize about the CIA, microdots, and conspiracies. Diapers and medical bills don't cross their radar. As you say, Marina, the kids, and their home life is critical in understanding LHO. Just like it's critical to understanding me or you or anyone else. Money in particular was as important for LHO as it is for the rest of us. The reason submariners, night shift workers, doctors, hired killers, and movie stars earn a pay premium is because they do hazardous duty, or duty few of us want to do, or work that is highly prized, or work that entertains millions. I think everyone recognizes this. Yet, we are to believe that the CIA has Oswald in a starring role for its biggest show, but decides to keep him in poverty? The CIA can't even cough up the $100 or so it costs to have a kid in those days? Jason [below is from FBI's HQ file on Oswald. The first document is a summary of Marina's application for medical help from the charity hospital in New Orleans. This was denied because she had not yet established Louisiana residency for the mandated minimum time period. The second document is information from, ironically, Parkland Hospital, which the Oswalds relied upon for charity medical care.] [From George DeMohrenschildt's unpublished manuscript in the HSCA report]
  23. Hi Jim, thanks for talking with me, I really value serious discussions like this that lack any insults shot between forum members. I agree that Walker is a "soldier that would follow orders without question." I think we can call this a consensus statement of Walker's chain-of-command loyalty. There are of course many workable ways to understand and structure one's life, and the chain-of-command approach is both popular and effective in many contexts. However, what happens to guys like Walker when the chain of command disappears? Walker to me is someone who might protest a peace treaty with Iran under the Obama administration, resign his military commission, and immediately be hired as a celebrated Fox News commentator or Trump administration adviser...or maybe a congressional candidate sponsored by the Koch brothers. So Walker's little tantrum about resigning and then getting involved into "state's rights" and segregationist causes still has a parallel for us today. It still happens. But, if I understand you correctly, you think Walker never really left his chain of command, correct? You think the resignation and life after the army for Walker was still in service of his chain of command, right? Paul Trejo and you agree that Oswald as a teenager was legitimately a socialist, or a Marxist, or a wandering idealistic leftist, or something along these lines. I think? Apologies, it's unclear to me what you mean by "the plan was to sabotage the Paris Summit." whose plan? Is Oswald part of this plan? Who, if anyone, is directing Oswald at Helsinki? So you are saying that there is a plan to deny the White House to Nixon or those who shared Eisenhower/Nixon's aims of thawing the Cold War at Paris ...... and that this plan produced the capture of Francis Gary Powers, which, in turn, is the result of Oswald's move to the USSR? You also imply that JFK recognizes his victory relied in part on the Oswald-Powers chain of events so he appoints John J McCloy as Chief Nuclear Negotiator. Right? Thanks again, Jason The below excerpt is by Marcus G Raskin, Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists, February 1983, p. 34.
  24. Hi Paul, It's big of you to leave Helsinki as an open question. Seriously. One of the biggest hurdles to ending the controversy around the JFK assassination is, in my view, the all-or-nothing mindset. Every detail must bet explained by a CT, or the CT is shot to hell by critics and written off. Likewise, the most popular CTs are those that claim to explain every detail. The CIA is given far too much credit and is imagined as some kind of all-knowing all-powerful force around here. If a detail - like Oswald's speedy Helsinki visa- can't be explained, too many of us will say, "The CIA did it. That explains everything." Tagging the CIA conveniently also means that evidence is no longer needed - in the CTs of too many researchers. Just say the CIA did it and the rules of evidence magically no longer apply. "The CIA" should not be a universal answer when evidence is inconclusive. So, in my view, we all should have enough confidence to simply say, "I don't know," or leave it as an open question. I've long thought that Oswald in the USSR distracts too much from the assassination in Dallas. A CT does not have to explain Oswald's Soviet chapter in order to explain Dallas. So - Helsinki is an open question. Fine. We can move on. Jason
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