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2 minutes ago, Paul Brancato said:
As far as I understand Metta’s research it comes from court documents in long running Italian cases dealing with false flag terrorist incidents. We are all wondering the same thing, and the language barrier is frustrating.
Paz - I am trying to figure out what happened in 1961–63 with Phillipe De Vosjoli and French Intelligence SDECE. this intersects with defector Golitsyn and Angleton.
Well, Paul, as you say, the barrier is frustrating. I do hope to finally find a translator for Michele's book, since by the way he also gives an answer to your question about de Vosjoli etcetera
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10 hours ago, Evan Marshall said:
Because Dallas happened before Watergate AND because the WC thought they would never have to explain their ineptitude or willful negligence we have countless leads to chase.
That's an important and intelligent statement
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7 hours ago, Vince Palamara said:
Hello, Paz!
Hi, Vince. I please invite you to read what my work mate wrote about Byrd, owner of 411 Elm Street and Centro Mondiale Commerciale
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7 hours ago, Vince Palamara said:
Thank you for starting this excellent thread!
I do thank you
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10 hours ago, Paul Brancato said:
I’m searching.
Really appreciated. Thanks again
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1 hour ago, Paul Brancato said:
So far it reads well. Good work Paz.
i am interested in connections between Mossad and French Intelligence.
Thank you. Well, Souètre was there. Could you please help with the rest?
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10 hours ago, Ron Ecker said:
I’m posting it for any comments
Ron,
thank you very much for this. So, it seems you believe something was altered
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18 hours ago, Paul Brancato said:
As always, we await some enterprising bilingual member to translate this
Paul,
I started a translation. Could you please check if it is in an enough good English? Thanks in advance
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ARTICLE’S TRANSLATION - Work in progress
It’s already happened twice, during my search for the truth about JFK assassination, to have the pleasure of crossing my path with that of other researchers. It occurred with the American Jim DiEugenio, esteemed author, from whom I had the honor to be praised and encouraged. It occurred with the tenacious Canadian John Kowalski, who made it possible for me to compare my documents with a series of collimating data proceeding from the Archives of Canada. It happens again now, with another good US researcher: Linda Minor. Linda has in fact cleverly investigated a too often not adequately debated element of the plot against John Kennedy: that concerning the place from which Lee Oswald, the scapegoat of Dallas, was accused of shooting with a Carcano on November 22, 1963 despite evidence to the contrary. Comparing United Press dispatches and other material, Linda has emphasized something important about David Harold Byrd’s life. In fact, he was not only the owner of the building at 411 of Elm Street and by Byrd himself leased to the Texas Books Depository, the book company that hired Oswald. Besides this, Byrd was also an ultraconservative entrepreneur, and a friend of some of JFK’s worst enemies like General Curtis LeMay and oilman H. L. Hunt. Byrd, like Hunt, was rich because of his own possessions of oil but, unlike Hunt, also of uranium. However, the control of his empire, namely Byrd Oil which included Byrd Uranium, was then in 1956 passed – Linda has discovered - in the hands of A. M. Abernethy, who in fact became its president, while Byrd remained as Board chairman, as well as the name of Byrd Oil stayed untouched. Well, above Abernethy there was a very important Jew: Arie Ben-Tovim, former Consul of Israel in Montreal from 1949 to 1950, and then in New York from 1951 to 1952. Here, Linda’s study stops. An inevitable halt, since, unlike me, she does not have the exclusive CMC papers I instead own. Papers that reveal the following: Arie Ben-Tovim was also a CMC member. Yes.
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This means a link between Byrd and CMC, the company in Rome Clay Shaw worked for. It also means a link between CMC and the place from which the patsy LHO was accused to have killed JFK
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13 hours ago, David Lifton said:
Byrd was the owner of the building, but. . . he didn't "do" anything.
Cason was (more or less) directly "on site" and was involved (as Truly's boss) in the hiring of Oswald.
DSL
You simply refuse to understand what I said and what that linkage does mean. That's all
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1 hour ago, David Lifton said:
I know how to "fix it."
Wow, David. You quoted me in this very same thread ... how many times? Oh, yes, six times. Wow, what a honor. The point is: how is it that a CMC member is connected to the Byrd owner of the 411 Elm Street? Got it?
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Just now, Paul Brancato said:
As always, we await some enterprising bilingual member to translate this, or find a way to get google to do so.
Yes. Thank you
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On 6/3/2018 at 6:40 AM, Ron Bulman said:
Maybe all of us are missing the mark here, me included. Some may have been led to believe the route went straight down Main to jump the curb to Elm or on to Industrial, but it was changed, for them on the 21st or 22nd. I still can't say that some were not convinced of this at the time after reading this thread.
The mark we may miss is possibly why was the TSBD chosen as a site for the patsy, and in turn Dealy Plaza for the assassination itself. If the assassination was a intelligence and/or military operation it was pre planned. Possibly (likely?) months in advance at upper levels.
The TSBD was empty in early 1963. Owned by Harold Dry Hole Byrd, cousin of Richard E Byrd, South Pole explorer, descendent of British Royalty. Texas oil man, Dallas and Houston petroleum club member as well s suite 8F and founder of the civil air patrol whose members included Oswald and David Ferrie. Major owner of Ling Temco Vought aircraft company who profited greatly from the assassination through it.
In came text book companies. Some reputedly used as CIA fronts, in the course of influencing History learned by the public in schools, among other uses.
Byrd went to Africa on his first ever hunting trip there in late November 1963. I've read, though I don't remember by who or how reliable it is, that when asked why he went on the African hunting trip he said he didn't want to be in Dallas when Kennedy was killed. He reportedly had the window frame of the "snipers nest" removed from the TSBD after he got back and moved to his home as a trophy.
Was the TSBD chosen because it was made "available" because it was on the most likely route from Main to Stemmons Freeway if a parade down Main street to the Trade Mart if JFK could be convinced to do both the parade and speech?
Ron, here it is in fact the answer to your excellent post
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In a today's worldwide exclusive, the Italian journalist Michele Metta shows connections between Byrd, owner of 411 Elm Street, and an Israeli CMC member
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Study Backs Theory of 'Grassy Knoll'
New Report Says Second Gunman Fired at KennedyBy George Lardner Jr.
Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, March 26, 2001The House Assassinations Committee may have been right after all: There was a shot from the grassy knoll.
That was the key finding of the congressional investigation that concluded 22 years ago that President John F. Kennedy's murder in Dallas in 1963 was "probably . . . the result of a conspiracy." A shot from the grassy knoll meant that two gunmen must have fired at the president within a split-second sequence. Lee Harvey Oswald, accused of firing three shots at Kennedy from a perch at the Texas School Book Depository, could not have been in two places at once.
A special panel of the National Academy of Sciences subsequently disputed the evidence of a fourth shot, contained on a police dictabelt of the sounds in Dealey Plaza that day. The panel insisted it was simply random noise, perhaps static, recorded about a minute after the shooting while Kennedy's motorcade was en route to Parkland Hospital.
A new, peer-reviewed article in Science and Justice, a quarterly publication of Britain's Forensic Science Society, says the NAS panel's study was seriously flawed. It says the panel failed to take into account the words of a Dallas patrolman that show the gunshot-like noises occurred "at the exact instant that John F. Kennedy was assassinated."
In fact, the author of the article, D.B. Thomas, a government scientist and JFK assassination researcher, said it was more than 96 percent certain that there was a shot from the grassy knoll to the right of the president's limousine, in addition to the three shots from a book depository window above and behind the president's limousine.
G. Robert Blakey, former chief counsel to the House Assassinations Committee, said the NAS panel's study always bothered him because it dismissed all four putative shots as random noise -- even though the three soundbursts from the book depository matched up precisely with film of the assassination and other evidence such as the echo patterns in Dealey Plaza and the speed of Kennedy's motorcade.
"This is an honest, careful scientific examination of everything we did, with all the appropriate statistical checks," Blakey said of Thomas's work.
"It shows that we made mistakes, too, but minor mistakes. The main thing is when push comes to shove, he increased the degree of confidence that the shot from the grassy knoll was real, not static. We thought there was a 95 percent chance it was a shot. He puts it at 96.3 percent. Either way, that's 'beyond a reasonable doubt.' "
The sounds of assassination were recorded at Dallas police headquarters when a motorcycle patrolman inadvertently left his microphone switch in the "on" position, deluging his transmitting channel with what seemed to be motorcycle noise. Using sophisticated techniques, a team of scientists enlisted by the House committee filtered out the noise and came up with "audible events" within a 10-second time frame that it believed might be gunfire.
The Warren Commission had concluded in 1964 that only three shots, all from behind, all from Oswald's rifle, were fired in Dealey Plaza as the motorcade passed through. But the House experts, after extensive tests, found 10 echo patterns that matched sounds emanating from the grassy knoll, traveling carefully measured distances to nearby buildings and then bouncing off them to hit the open motorcycle transmitter.
They also placed the unknown gunman behind a picket fence at the top of the grassy knoll, in front of and to the right of the presidential limousine. The House committee concluded that this shot missed, and that Kennedy was killed by a final bullet from Oswald's rifle. Thomas, by contrast, believes it was the shot from the knoll, seven-tenths of a second earlier, that killed the president.
The NAS panel, assigned to conduct further studies after the committee closed down, said in 1982 that the noises on the tape previously identified as gunshots "were recorded about one minute after the president was shot."
The NAS experts, headed by physicist Norman F. Ramsey of Harvard, reached that conclusion after studying the sounds on the two radio channels Dallas police were using that day. Routine transmissions were made on Channel One and recorded on a dictabelt at police headquarters. An auxiliary frequency, Channel Two, was dedicated to the president's motorcade and used primarily by Dallas Police Chief Jesse Curry; its transmissions were recorded on a separate Gray Audograph disc machine.
The shooting took place within an 18-second interval that began with Curry in the lead car announcing on Channel Two that the motorcade was approaching a triple underpass and ended with the chief stating urgently: "Go to the hospital." What seemed to be the gunshots were picked up on Channel One during that interval.
The NAS panel pointed out that Dallas County Sheriff Bill Decker could be heard on both channels saying, ". . . Hold everything secure . . ." seemingly about a half-second after the last gunshot on Channel One. Curry had already told everyone on Channel Two a minute earlier to go to the hospital. As a result, the Ramsey panel concluded that the supposed gunshot noises came "too late to be attributed to assassination shots."
What actually happened was that Curry issued his "go to the hospital" order right after the first shots were fired, wounding Kennedy and Texas Gov. John Connally. The final bullet was fired in almost the same instant that Curry uttered his command. A minute later, Decker, riding in the same car with Curry, grabbed the mike and issued his orders to "hold everything secure."
The NAS experts made several errors, Thomas said, but their biggest mistake was in using Decker's words to line up the two channels. They ignored a much clearer instance of cross talk when Dallas police Sgt. S. Q. Bellah can be heard on both channels, asking: "You want me to hold this traffic on Stemmons until we find out something, or let it go?"
Those remarks come 179 seconds after the last gunshot on Channel One and 180 seconds after Curry's order to "go to the hospital" on Channel Two. When Bellah's words are used to line up the two channels, Thomas found, the gunshot sounds "occur at the exact instant that John F. Kennedy was assassinated."
How is it, then, that Decker's remarks on Channel One come a full minute after Curry's on Channel Two and yet a half-second after the last gunshot on Channel One?
"It's a misplaced bit of speech," Thomas said in an interview. "An overdub. The recording needle for Channel One probably jumped. You can hear Decker giving a whole set of instructions on Channel Two, but on Channel One, you get only a fragment, '. . . hold everything secure. . . .' "
According to Thomas, the NAS panel made other mistakes: in calculating the position of the grassy knoll shooter, in fixing the time of that shot and in stating the Channel Two recorder had stopped when it hadn't. In all, Thomas said, the chances of the NAS panel having been right were 1 in 100,000.
House committee experts James Barger, Mark Weiss and Eric Aschkenasy, have always held firm to their findings of a shot from the knoll. Similarly, Ramsey, as chairman of the NAS panel, said last weekend that he was "still fairly confident" of his group's work, but he said he wanted to study the Science and Justice article before making further comment. He said he did not recall the Bellah cross talk.
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This should absolutely be done. We have the right to check it
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1 hour ago, Vince Palamara said:
Paz
Here I am, Vince. Do you see me?? Cheers
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We should gather our strengths and ask for a fresh investigation on JFK assassination
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Vince,
really thank you for this
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5 hours ago, Vince Palamara said:
Please see my latest post SECRET SERVICE security and press coverage for JFK pre-11/22/63
Thank you
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On 5/31/2018 at 3:22 AM, Paul Brancato said:
I had no idea he played violin.
Music, something you well know
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1 hour ago, Ron Ecker said:
Even rich folks can say some pretty stupid things. And no, I'm not talking about Trump.
Kerry Kennedy, opposing a new investigation, says, "The reason that people are interested in the circumstances of my father's death is because of what he did with his life."
Yep. I know. I was astonished too, when reading that
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1 hour ago, Paul Brancato said:
Wow - thanks to our Italian sister for posting this.
Thanks for the laugh you gave me reading your kind message, USA brother
Michele Metta's astonishing worldwide exclusive
in JFK Assassination Debate
Posted
About Angleton, for sure you can see he had a key role in all the conspiracy and, besides, inside CMC itself. More in general, there is a very strong link between the assassination of JFK and the subsequent Italian Strategy of Tension. Finally, Metta has the support of exclusive news from, for example, people like the Italian historian Flamigni, who revealed to Metta that is was Angleton the one who haired Gelli inside the OSS. This is extremely important