Tony Krome

2 hours ago, James DiEugenio said:

There was a fight in the car after Ready jumped in, and this is how Connally got shot from the front?

We should wait for more detail from Gary, but there was a witness that described a man with a hand gun by the limo, maybe Lifton had more on that.

42 minutes ago, Gary Murr said:

For me the "end" of our relationship occurred when he tried to convince me that Connally was shot, more than once, "from the front"

Can you elaborate on that? Did he refer to Connally's position?

2 hours ago, Sandy Larsen said:

It has been indisputably proven that there was a gaping hole on the back of Kennedy's head. Which in turn proves that the back-of head photos and x-rays are fraudulent. And that the Zapruder film has been altered.

As I said, if you had of quoted my full reply, it was occipital. And if anyone is foolish enough to refer to the Z-Film, especially after the sign, as evidence, well, you are destined for another 60 years of muddiness. 

7 minutes ago, Sandy Larsen said:

 

Tony, how do you think the top of Kennedy's scalp got all shredded up between the time his body was in Parkland hospital and when the autopsy started?

 

I don't think you will find anything related to the autopsy by me on this forum, maybe just a passing comment. As far as I'm concerned, all the mysteries, including the multiple caskets etc, have been solved long ago in my research. I may release all that one day. One thing I will say, is that the photos you refer to support the top of head bullet strike and not the occipital strike. And for the record, the injury was just as the Parkland doctors described. Think about that.

JFK body alteration = garbage

The above research was inspired by a post by member James Richards, who posed a question here in 2007. Here is what he posted;

POST, OFFICE BOXES

Sources: WC 22, p. 652; WC 24, p. 259; CD 897, p. 141; CD 1306, p. 124

Mary's

Comments: Lee Harvey Oswald closed P.O. Box 2915 in May 1963 (WC Vol. 20, p. 176). Rented P.O. Box 6225 on Nov. 1, 1963. Jack Ruby rented P.O. Box 5475 on Nov. 7, 1963. Michael Bentley Murph's family, Murdock Lead Co. (later Southern Lead), had P.O. Box 5298 (next to Lee Oswald's box), M.B. Murph was a Clerk for Murdock Lead. Mary Hollies, Scott-Foresman employee on 4th Flr of TSBD had P.O. Box 5944 in Nov. 1963. Terminal Annex box numbers ran from 5001 through 6499. (CD 1306:124) - 113.67' from street level to main roof parapet.

Robert,

I have been going through some old notes and have compiled the following. How relevent it is, I'm not sure.

Murdock Lead Co. was run by a guy named W.F. Murdock. It was later purchaced by Southern Lead. The senior partner in Southern Lead was Donald Hugh Murph (killed in a single car accident in 1955) and his two sons, D. Bentley Murph and J. Virgil Murph.

In 1953, Murdock Lead purchased the metalics product company Eagle-Picher. Robb B. Murdock was named as vice president of this new venture. He had a son named James C. Murdock. I wonder if this is Grand Prairie police officer J.C. Murdock?

James

So thanks James, and the answer is YES!

More research released from my book. Info you have not seen before, enjoy!

https://jacks.forumotion.com/t28-finding-the-byp-forger

59 minutes ago, Greg Doudna said:

The lunch is a contradiction, true. Frazier spoke of a lunch truck that came during breaks, such as mid-morning, and said Oswald told him Nov 22 he was going to buy his lunch which Frazier understood to be that lunch truck. I assume that is where he got the cheese sandwich and fruit

We've all been out to the lunch truck. The horn beeps and the crowd rushes out. The truck is only there for minutes, it has more crowds up the road to feed. Who in the crowd has Oswald at the truck? 

This crowd;

Frazier: from that catering service man like a lot of the boys do. They don't bring their lunch but they go out and buy their lunch there. 

2 hours ago, Greg Doudna said:

You've got that right I believe Oswald had a 27 inch bag

According to Frazier, Oswald just waltzed into the rear loading dock door, just like any other day. There was no hiding the bag, no stealthy entrance, and it was a time when workers were all there on the floor ready to start work. Not only did he have to make an entrance with this huge bag, he had to cross the floor with it. Not only that, it was the ONLY day he walked in with such an object. It was unusual, people take note of unusual things.

Nobody saw Oswald with such a bag.

Oswald said he took his lunch, it was on his lap, no bag on the back seat, said Frazier was mistaken. 

Frazier said Oswald took no lunch, no lunch sack, only this big bag.

You are saying Oswald did not make a sandwich, did not pack that and fruit in a lunch sack. You are saying Oswald was being untruthful to Fritz and Co when he said he had lunch that day.

3 hours ago, Greg Doudna said:

A photo showing Mrs. Johnson standing on the bed, hammer in hand, nailing that visible bent curtain rod back up.

I see Mr. Johnson with a hammer

7 minutes ago, Gerry Down said:

Why is the ROKC forumgone into hibernation?

He's moving onto other things. Thankfully the forum is left as readable rather than gone completely. I started Jacks to upload all my research on and for a place for ROKC members to post.

More information about a known witness on Elm, but very little known about them

Full story over at Jacks;

https://jacks.forumotion.com/t14-breakthrough-elm-st-assassination-witness-links-to-ruby#98

35 minutes ago, Tony Krome said:

Mr. BALL - Do you have any idea how long it was from the time you heard those three sounds or three noises until you saw Truly and Baker going into the building?
Mr. SHELLEY - It would have to be 3 or 4 minutes

How does Shelley see Truly and Baker going into the building if Shelley and Lovelady are at the freight elevators seen by Adams? haha, love a mystery

9 minutes ago, Ron Bulman said:

Baker/Truly, 3-4 minutes

Mr. BALL - Do you have any idea how long it was from the time you heard those three sounds or three noises until you saw Truly and Baker going into the building?
Mr. SHELLEY - It would have to be 3 or 4 minutes

12 minutes ago, Marjan Rynkiewicz said:

She also told office workers that on the way down, she noticed the freight elevator cables were moving.

I am certain that we went to the public elevator
first, but may not have waited long there either.

 

If they went to the passenger elevator, it obviously did not respond to their call, so off they went.

So both the passenger elevator and one of the freight elevators were in use at the time.

42 minutes ago, Sandy Larsen said:

Every indication is that Lovelady and Shelley did NOT go down that little road to the railroad yard, and the back into the TSBD through the door on the west. The simplest proof of that is that Victoria Adams saw them when she arrived on the first floor from the fourth floor, just 60 seconds or so after the shooting.

That's what I'm looking at, how those guys get to the freight elevators so quickly if they walked to the railway yard.

Where's the part about railway yards in both their affidavits??

It was an entrance wound.

I guess I better lock the doors.

7 hours ago, Denis Morissette said:

James A. Putnam.

I've posted a side by side pic over at Jacks as well as an explanation from you Denis, that it could be Putnam. Those guys are so similar, amazing! The chin, in my opinion, tends more to Dean, but there's no way I'll commit. Thanks again.

52 minutes ago, Denis Morissette said:

Even Dean’s son and Putnam’s daughter couldn’t figure out at time which was which.

Thanks for naming the policeman.

If that is Putnam in the Alyea film, I can see now why both Alyea and Oliver mentioned Dean.

If Oliver saw Putnam, thinking it was Dean, she wasn't lying at all. As you said, even the daughter had trouble.

9 hours ago, David Josephs said:

FWIW, Dean was the Sgt who basically cleared the darkened parking area of police/reserves allowing Ruby to walk unbothered up to his spot near Croy
only a minute or so before they brought Oswald to him.

And then supported/promoted the "he came down the ramp" story.

I wouldn't doubt he was lying and that Alyea was correct.  Just to remember tho, many cops looked the same during this time, they hired a "type".

Especially with inferior footage to work with. I tried to match his features, as well as his uniform. See how likeness guy has that pen and badge/notepad on his left pocket? You can just make out the same on the Ruby pic. I'm trying to find a better quality clip to zoom and enhance his name tag. That would be the clincher.

Found this guy who is supposed to be a younger Mather (unconfirmed)

10 minutes ago, Denis Morissette said:

What does it have to do with the topic of this thread?

It's easy to claim someone is lying, but I prefer to see the basis in fact for those claims.

If you can name the police sergeant that has the likeness of Dean, that entered the TSBD, it would be helpful so I can compare. It follows, that if there is a sergeant that resembles Dean, Oliver could have seen this same guy. So it would not be a lie on behalf of Oliver, it would be a case mistaken identity, correct?

22 minutes ago, Denis Morissette said:

Beverly Oliver lied when she said he saw Dean on the grassy knoll. I told Dean’s son about her claim.

Dean told HSCA he knew Ruby for 12 to 14 years. Dean told WC he knew Ruby since circa 1960. Which version do you believe?

11 minutes ago, Denis Morissette said:

another policeman who is easily confused with Dean. I know the daughter of that policeman

Name of policeman please, and I'll check it out.