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In fact!

When one compares the impact damage to the copper jacket at the base of the bullet, and then compares the same area of the bullet after the copper jacket at the bullet base was removed, one can even see where this impact damage extended into the lead core of the bullet and created a slight indentation into the lead core itself.

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With that impact damage to the copper jacket at the base of CE399, along with the gouging of the exposed portion of the lead core of the bullet directly adjacent to this impact damage, it does not reguire an Eienstein IQ to thereafter determine the approximate attitude at which the base of CE399 struck the right transverse process of the C7 vertebrae, fractured and fragmented this area of the bone leaving either minute traces of metallic fragment (lead) in the vicinity of the bone fragmentation (or bone fragments themselves), and thereafter also sheared the small cone-shaped, flat based lead protrusion from the base of the bullet.

Thus allowing the 4.5mm diameter lead protrusion to continue along what was most probably a slightly upward deflected pathway, to exit the anterior neck of JFK.

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And, although Dr. Humes and Dr. Finck would not discuss aspects of the autopsy with me, Dr. Boswell, on many occassions, was willing to explain many aspects of the autopsy which ultimately helps to place the pieces of this puzzle into thier proper location.

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I know little about ballistics. Could you or "Jethro" just answer a couple of questions for me....1) what is the likelihood of a tumbling bullet leaving what appears to be a clean 4x7mm wound? 2) wouldn't any tumbling bullet leave a much larger wound, more in keeping with the length of the bullet itself?

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Jethro further states, as demonstrated in this HSCA Investigation drawing, that a normal bullet entrance, when fired on a downward angle, creates an "abrasion collar" located at/around the top boundary entrance of the wound of entry.

However, the HSCA also determined that, contradictory to all known ballistics and evidence, the entry wound in the upper back of JFK, had it's "abrasion collar" located around the bottom boundary of the wound of entry.

And indicator which would mean that, by all understood aspects, would mean that the entering bullet struck on an "upward" angle of attack.

So, was someone hiding in the trunk of the Presidential Limo and fired this shot??????????

Not likely.

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And, since Jethro could find no evidence of anyone hiding in the trunk of the Presidential Limo, he had to assume that there must be another, yet unresolved, answer to exactly how a bullet which was fired on a downward angle, could strike the human skin in an upward angle of attack.

Thus creating an "abrasion collar" at the bottom boundary of the wound of entry while also "punching" out a nice neat 4mm X 7mm wound of entry.

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Of course, this still left poor ole "Jethro" in a quandry.

Which centered around exactly how it was that a bullet which was fired on a downward angle of approximately 18-degrees down, could enter the body on a base first upward angle of attack, yet thereafter continue to penetrate into the body on a downward angle of from 45 degrees to 60 degrees downward.

Commander HUMES - Mathematics is not my forte. Approximately 45 degrees from the horizontal

6] "Dr. Humes said that no major blood vessels

[7] were struck by the bullet passing through the

[8] President's neck. Regarding his assertion in

[9] the Warren Commission testimony that the

[10] bullets entered at a 45 to 60 degree angle, Dr.

[11] Humes said it was a guesstimate."

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So!

Jethro was thus left in anothery quandary!

Here he was, Valedictorian, Sallutatorian, and the only graduate in his Sixth Grade Class, yet the principle of "rotational inertia" escaped him as it was only taught in the 7th grade.

Thus, had Jethro moved on to a "higher education", then he too could have easily understood how the end-over-end rotational inertia of the rotating bullet, could, and would make the bullet drive itself down into the back/shoulder of JFK on a downward angle which by far exceeded the actual downward angle of fire.

And this, coupled with Jethro's experience gained in "skinning hogs" and understanding the true flexibility of the hog (& human) skin, would have aided him tremendousy in understanding exactly how CE399 struck the back of JFK on an upward angle of attack, yet, due to rotational inertia, drove itself down into the back on an angle which by far exceeded the true downward angle of fire.

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Once the realm of "rotational inertia" was entered, Jethro was obviously left behind.

Nevertheless, he had his "Uncle Jed" who was a born woodsman and hunter, and as well all know, fired an old muzzle loader.

Having fired a muzzle loader, Jed would have been throroughly familiar with the "wad" which is cut and in which the ammo ball is wrapped in prior to pushing the ball down into the barrel against the powder.

And, no doubt, Jed would have most probably been familiar with a "slug" which was often fired in shotguns for deerhunting, and was basically just a long oval cylinder with flat ends.

In that regards, Jed would have no doubt informed Jethro that if he would look, that a "Wadcutter Tool" for cutting/punching out the wad for a rifle, was oval with relatively sharp edges, and this was why it cut such nice neat oval patches.

http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/...&t=11082005

http://www.midwayuk.com/apps/eproductpage....leItemID=194952

Furthermore, a "wadcutter" bullet, not unlike the tool itself, had relatively sharp 90-degree edges around it's circumference, which is why it too punches out such a nice neat round hole in paper targets.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wadcutter

And yes, a "wadcutter" bullet with it's relatively sharp flat edges would create a "punch-type" wound of entry with clean cut edges around the wound, as compared with a normal bullet entry.

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But!

Jed would most probably say.

You need to tell that city feller that we may have come in here on a truck, but it wern't no turnip truck.

And, everyone knows that the base of them there Carcano Bullets, don't got no flat, sharp edges around the circumference, and with only a limited velocity, it would be most unlikely that the base of them bullets could make the "punch-type" hole as found in the back of JFK, even though the hole dimension exactly matches the dimension of the deformed base of the bullet.

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Of course, Jed also believed in truth, justice, the American Way, apple pie, and the honesty and integrity of those slime balls such as the WC generated.

And therefore, he would have never dreamed that anyone would "alter" evidence, such as removal of a portion of the copper jacket to the bullet, which normally covers a portion of the base of the bullet.

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