Nick Bartetzko

I had read an article and saw a video about Trump playing golf the day after. Seems the video was actually from a couple of years ago. Some folks have nothing better to do than post false or misleading info.

Thanks for posting. I watched both videos.

Photos of the casings would be nice at some point. Also, was the ammunition bought from a store or did Crooks do the handloading/reloading himself? If it is a combination of purchased and handloaded ammunition, and if the amount of powder in the casings is significantly different, could that account for the distinct differences in the sound of the first three rounds versus the next five? PS I hope that the casings evidence here is much more clear than with the Oswald handgun and rifle....

Thank you. I had not heard that or seen an article. I just found this article from CBS News. So let me make sure I understand this.... the shooter on the roof fired 8 shots, 3 of which sound quite different to me, a layman and non ballistics guy, than the following 5. I guess that might be possible if that AR 15 is capable of being loaded with 2 different types of ammunition or could it be that the powder for 5 of the cartridges was a different amount than the other 3 and that caused the differences in the sound? https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-rally-gunman-fired-eight-shots-under-six-seconds-before-being-killed-by-secret-service-analysis-shows/

I have seen a clip of the guy previously discussing the audio. I don't know who his experts are, but to a layman like me, there appear to be 3 different types of sounds and different spacings as well. The first 3 are a bit more spaced, the next 5 are quicker, and the last one appears to be a different sound than the other two. The first time I heard it, and that tape was from a further distance and didn't have the crowd noise, I had assumed the rapid fire sequence of 5 shots was return fire from the Secret Service. Another puzzling aspect is the injuries to the 3 individuals in the crowd. They aren't that close to the stage. What kind of ammunition does an AR 15 use and what is the maximum number of rounds that can be fired at one time? Are there any reports of the type of ammunition that killed the one spectator and wounded the two others? Has an FBI spokesperson held a briefing or have they released anything?

Just like the JFKA, all the pieces of the puzzle don't need to fit together perfectly to arrive at certain conclusions. I've not studied this to the extent that you likely have. I have seen the simulations, and they are completely unconvincing. I have never seen any skyscrapers collapse as "perfectly" as the towers did. For buildings to sustain such major damage to only a portion of the buildings, and then come straight down, makes no sense. I've searched for videos of buildings that have sustained major damage to one side and then collapsed straight down, and I've not found any. If you have, please post them. When I lived in Los Angeles, there was a skyscraper that suffered a major fire to the middle 2-3 floors. When I drove by some days later, I could see completely through the building to the other side and the steel girders were all straight and undamaged. To my recollection, none of the steel needed to be replaced and the interior of the building was rebuilt and perfectly functional again. This is similar to the lone nut folks claiming that JFK was struck in the back of the head and the "jet effect " or "Thorburn reaction" were responsible for the violent backward movement of the head and body. They didn't mention that JFK's right arm and elbow followed the same violent rearward motion and that bloody debris struck the two motorcyclists to the left rear of the limousine and that debris also struck the Secret Service follow up car on the driver's side.

Thank you. You ever so clearly responded to my question.

Dr WN, Thanks again for your comments and perspective. I was also hoping for a response as to the problem with inner city violence, but maybe that would be more appropriate for a sociologist to respond to. Nick

Dr WN, Thanks for your comments and perspective. I am troubled by the occasional angry white male shootings and I'm not able to counter your comments as I wouldn't know where to look right now to source the data. The first time I can recall a deranged incident like that was the University of Texas shooter... a white male I believe... who fired from the top of a tower on campus and killed students and faculty. That was a long time ago....in 1966. Another incident was in the Los Angles area where a heavily armed individual terrorized the area and used very high caliber weapons in a battle against police. He was finally killed by police and his mother filed a wrongful death claim as I recall that was dismissed. That may have been 10 to 15 years ago. Then we had the 2017 incredibly horrific shooting from a hotel in Las Vegas at an outdoor venue. I am not aware of any specific reasons why these individuals "snapped". As to hateful rhetoric causing many of these angry white male shootings, would it really be the angry rhetoric or would it more likely be a lifetime of anger having been built by a horrible family or school situation, possibly bullying, or other societal factors. As a layman, my guess would be that someone who loses control mentally would be more heavily influenced by long-term factors, but maybe with angry rhetoric being the final trigger. Your thoughts would be appreciated. We still have the issue of gangs killing each other and innocent victims losing their lives in the inner cities and the prevalence appears to be with non-white gangs. I realize this is not your area of interest, but would appreciate your thoughts as a psychiatrist as to what specific means would be necessary to reverse this trend. I think the issue of hateful rhetoric on both sides is a valid one. I still remember the Kathy Griffin gory photo of Trump's head that some people thought was hilarious. The fact that some would think it to be funny worries me to a great extent as well.

Dr WN, He may have been clever enough to hide the ladder, but it appears the attendees and local police were clever enough to determine there was a guy on the roof with a rifle and there was apparently no adequate methodology to relay that information quickly enough to the Secret Service for appropriate action. Forgetting for a moment the issue of how many agents the Secret Service wanted to assign to this event, it is amazing to me that drones apparently were not used or considered. This is simple and cheap technology and I have not seen it mentioned whether or not the Secret Service uses it. I made no inference as to any deep state plot against Trump. None of us know enough to even make the wildest conjectures on that. It just isn't appropriate and I am hoping that we get the most thorough of investigations as to what occurred and recommendations as to what the Secret Service can learn from it and improve upon. I know you hate anything MAGA and I am not a gun loving enthusiast, nor do I even own any sort of weapon. The second amendment does allow for guns and that's what the reality is. I am troubled to read so many comments about the angry white loners and their propensity for violence, but what is your solution for that? Are you not troubled by the angry young Hispanic and black males who kill each other and innocent victims in the inner cities? Don't those cities have adequate or even very restrictive gun control laws? And if they do, then why has the inner city violence situation not improved? The hateful rhetoric on both sides is easily available via search if anyone wants to take the trouble to look for it. I have seen some of the most despicable comments and videos about the attempt on Trump's life. Some are treating it like a joke and that is beyond disgusting and does nothing at all to create a better society.

The snafu in Butler?? You describe it as a snafu?? Was Dallas a "snafu" as well?? Regardless of how much one dislikes/hates Trump, Biden or RFK Jr., it is so very inappropriate to describe an assassination attempt on a presidential candidate as a "snafu".

I can't find the one pic right now, but I enlarged it the other day and it sure showed trauma to Trump's ear

Thank you for the clarification.

I agree with you. Overall, I have significant doubts about many/most of his claims. But that doesn't mean I automatically dismiss everything he has said.

This goes back quite a while, but does this not tie in with Tosh Plumlee's claim that he recognized this man...whom he knew as "Gator", because of an injury that caused his limp...