Chris Davidson Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 Watch the movement along the white triangle edge, through Jackie's forehead. By separating the blob, does this distinguish one of the trajectories? In frame 314, the matter past Jackie's left shoulder appears to be from the same trajectory. chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Knight Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 Might this be the Harper Fragment in flight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Miller Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 Watch the movement along the white triangle edge, through Jackie's forehead.By separating the blob, does this distinguish one of the trajectories? In frame 314, the matter past Jackie's left shoulder appears to be from the same trajectory. chris What are you saying ... Connally shot JFK. (grin~) If one takes away the blood spatter science involved,then I guess it could show a shot from the rear. Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Davidson Posted November 14, 2007 Author Share Posted November 14, 2007 Is the red streak that skims the top of JFK's head and appears to continue through past Jackie, the same streak? Objects in motion along the same path? The residue near Jackie's shoulder appears down near the armrest level. Don't believe that would end up outside the car. chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Miller Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 (edited) Is the red streak that skims the top of JFK's head and appears to continue through past Jackie, the same streak?Objects in motion along the same path? The residue near Jackie's shoulder appears down near the armrest level. Don't believe that would end up outside the car. chris Yeah ... it appears to have been a piece of bone that was thrown loose from the bone plate when it flipped over. If it is what I have seen - it landed on the back of Connally's seat and then fell into the floor. Bill Edited November 15, 2007 by Bill Miller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Davidson Posted November 15, 2007 Author Share Posted November 15, 2007 Is that a slow richochet off the armrest/sidedoor? chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Miller Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 (edited) Is that a slow richochet off the armrest/sidedoor?chris Its the bone that I circled in the first clip in response #5 being seen at a fast interval. Bill Edited November 15, 2007 by Bill Miller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Graves Posted November 16, 2007 Share Posted November 16, 2007 (edited) Is that a slow richochet off the armrest/sidedoor?chris Its the bone that I circled in the first clip in response #5 being seen at a fast interval. Bill ______________________________________ Bill, I think Chris is agreeing with you but is asking what that piece of skull had done just before it was captured next to the roses in Z-323 as shown in your post #5 this thread -- had it richoched off the armrest/sidedoor (to make it fly back up into the field of view of Zapruder's camera)? P.S. Nice "catch" --Thomas ______________________________________ Edited November 16, 2007 by Thomas Graves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed O'Hagan Posted November 16, 2007 Share Posted November 16, 2007 (edited) Removed by author Edited November 16, 2007 by Ed O'Hagan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Graves Posted November 16, 2007 Share Posted November 16, 2007 (edited) Is that a slow richochet off the armrest/sidedoor?chris Its the bone that I circled in the first clip in response #5 being seen at a fast interval. Bill ______________________________________ Bill, I think Chris is agreeing with you but is asking what that piece of skull had done just before it was captured in Z-323 as shown in your post #5 this thread -- had it richoched off the armrest/sidedoor, making it fly back up into view? P.S. Nice "catch" --Thomas ______________________________________ Bumped by the author. ______________________________________ Edited November 16, 2007 by Thomas Graves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Davidson Posted November 16, 2007 Author Share Posted November 16, 2007 Thomas, I believe my original animation shows a shot from the rear. Brain matter traveling quickly, same path/direction as the bullet, easier to accept than a ricochet. As for the ricochet piece, to much time (9 frames), to travel from armrest to the bounce off the top of Connally's seat, considering it hits that armrest in 1 frame. 2 shots, almost simultaneous, triangulation. chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Knight Posted November 16, 2007 Share Posted November 16, 2007 If you watch the 321-324 frames, you can tell, by the movement of the Connallys and the now-lifeless form of JFK that the limo is beginning an almost violent acceleration...way too late, of course, but it seems all too apparent that Greer is already on the gas in this sequence. So if there's ANY evidence of a stop or near-stop of the limo, it certainly isn't in this sequence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Miller Posted November 16, 2007 Share Posted November 16, 2007 Thomas,I believe my original animation shows a shot from the rear. Brain matter traveling quickly, same path/direction as the bullet, easier to accept than a ricochet. As for the ricochet piece, to much time (9 frames), to travel from armrest to the bounce off the top of Connally's seat, considering it hits that armrest in 1 frame. 2 shots, almost simultaneous, triangulation. chris The Nix film captured the head shot closer to the moment of impact and it also supports one hit to the head coming from the front according to the blood spatter expert I spoke with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Miller Posted November 16, 2007 Share Posted November 16, 2007 Is that a slow richochet off the armrest/sidedoor?chris The bone plate flipped off the head to the right side and in doing so it had flung that piece of bone towards Connally's seat ... at least that is how I see it. Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Gratz Posted November 16, 2007 Share Posted November 16, 2007 Bill Miller asked facetiously: What are you saying ... Connally shot JFK? Unfortunately, that would not be the most preposterous nor paradoxical proposition posted by a pompouse pontificating pundit on these pages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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