Craig Lamson Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 Pulling on fabric is the opposite of bunching fabric. Really? Please show us the proof of concept evidence that proves your claim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Varnell Posted July 28, 2010 Author Share Posted July 28, 2010 (edited) Pulling on fabric is the opposite of bunching fabric. Really? Please show us the proof of concept evidence that proves your claim. That you don't know the difference between "push" and "pull" is not a surprise. You haven't shown an understanding of "horizontal" and "vertical", or "bulge" and "indentation," for that matter. Edited July 28, 2010 by Cliff Varnell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Varnell Posted July 28, 2010 Author Share Posted July 28, 2010 When do yo plan on answering the question? So jim, What kind of fabric arrangement caused the dark artifact seen in Betzner? Jim, don't bother. Craig can't address the topic of the thread. The Towner photo is like garlic before a vampire to Craig. Craig can't refute the information in this photograph, in which John F. Kennedy demonstrates the kind of fabric arrangement which created shadow below his collar-line. Please note that JFK's posture in this photo is very similar to Betzner. Craig Lamson is a fraud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Lamson Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 Notice gentle reader, Varnell's inability to show you the difference or provide any proof of concepts for his wacky claims. Why? because he CAN'T. It's as simple as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Lamson Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 Oh yes Jim. PLEASE bother..in fact given your demands of Dolva you MUST. And while you are at it, please show us how the silly "indention just shown by Varnell ca work in the unbending confines of light, shadow and angle of incidence found in Betzner. Please note that Varnells magic growing fantasy fold _ indentation_ is on the very same axis of the sun in Betznewr....kmaking it IMPOSSIBLE for it to create the Betzner artifact. Gotta love it when someone like Varnell uses the word fraud....given his inability to show how his clain can work..... The photo that makes cliffy's head explode... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Lamson Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 Pulling on fabric is the opposite of bunching fabric. Really? Please show us the proof of concept evidence that proves your claim. That you don't know the difference between "push" and "pull" is not a surprise. You haven't shown an understanding of "horizontal" and "vertical", or "bulge" and "indentation," for that matter. Do you understand how light and shadow works and WHY your indentation fails? Of course not, your ignorance is monumental! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Lamson Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 (edited) Pulling on fabric is the opposite of bunching fabric. Really? Please show us the proof of concept evidence that proves your claim. That you don't know the difference between "push" and "pull" is not a surprise. You haven't shown an understanding of "horizontal" and "vertical", or "bulge" and "indentation," for that matter. Proof please or just go away since you claims have been proven wrong for years... Edited July 28, 2010 by Craig Lamson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dolva Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 I feel I need to know how long Kennedys ear was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dolva Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 I'm trying to answer the questions. Could someone please supply an answer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dolva Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 I've been asked questions. Any meaningful answer must be built on firm fundaments, mutually agreed. I'm trying to list basic fundaments that then can be used to derive further results. The brouhaha is of no interest to me, except in so far as existing.. Let's get this over with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dolva Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 Ok I'll make it simple. How far did Kennedys nose protrude. (reeely simple : hint inverse square law, planar dimensional equality.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Lamson Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 Ok I'll make it simple. How far did Kennedys nose protrude. (reeely simple : hint inverse square law, planar dimensional equality.) Got nothing for you John, neither does Varnell. We know this from the internals. The jacket collar at the rear center line is 1.25 The fold starts BELOW the bottom of the jacket collar. There is a return( the point were the farbic folds) at the start of the fold under the jacket collar and at the top of the fold. There are two sides to the fold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Varnell Posted July 28, 2010 Author Share Posted July 28, 2010 Ok I'll make it simple. How far did Kennedys nose protrude. (reeely simple : hint inverse square law, planar dimensional equality.) John, I frankly don't understand why you can't use the 1.25" jacket collar to measure the fold. It's right there. It's as good as holding a ruler to the fold. Is the fold 2.5 - 3 times the size of the jacket collar?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dolva Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 (edited) Yeah, so?(Craig). I don't care Cliff. You asked me for an answer. I'm trying to give it. Edited July 28, 2010 by John Dolva Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Varnell Posted July 28, 2010 Author Share Posted July 28, 2010 Yeah, so?(Craig). I don't care Cliff. You asked me for an answer. I'm trying to give it. Okay. I actually asked you several questions, but take your time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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